Fear: Trump in the White House

[cwolff]

Woodward's 448-page book, "Fear: Trump in the White House," provides an unprecedented inside-the-room look through the eyes of the President's inner circle. From the Oval Office to the Situation Room to the White House residence, Woodward uses confidential background interviews to illustrate how some of the President's top advisers view him as a danger to national security and have sought to circumvent the commander in chief.


Many of the feuds and daily clashes have been well documented, but the picture painted by Trump's confidants, senior staff and Cabinet officials reveal that many of them see an even more alarming situation — worse than previously known or understood. Woodward offers a devastating portrait of a dysfunctional Trump White House, detailing how senior aides — both current and former Trump administration officials — grew exasperated with the President and increasingly worried about his erratic behavior, ignorance and penchant for lying.



Chief of staff John Kelly describes Trump as an "idiot" and "unhinged," Woodward reports. Defense Secretary James Mattis describes Trump as having the understanding of "a fifth or sixth grader." And Trump's former personal lawyer John Dowd describes the President as "a fucking liar," telling Trump he would end up in an "orange jump suit" if he testified to special counsel Robert Mueller. Woodward's 448-page book, "Fear: Trump in the White House," provides an unprecedented inside-the-room look through the eyes of the President's inner circle. From the Oval Office to the Situation Room to the White House residence, Woodward uses confidential background interviews to illustrate how some of the President's top advisers view him as a danger to national security and have sought to circumvent the commander in chief.


You can buy the book here (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/fear-bob-woodward/1129202161?ean=9781501175510&st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_New+Core+Shopping+Books_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP211428&gclid=CjwKCAjw2rjcBRBuEiwAheKeL0BF0KGo1u06iM9nfW92 kmsqh6JG-WReOJtFfvnRI3m0PAKuVpnDHxoCSIwQAvD_BwE#/). Enjoy!

[cwolff]

Another Trump lawyer, Jay Sekulow, tried to argue to Robert Mueller that Trump could not be asked to give an interview because he is a compulsive liar. They literally explained to Mueller how they conducted a mock interview with Trump, and he was so unable to tell the truth that they considered him mentally disqualified from testifying:

Jay Sekulow went to Mueller’s office and re-enacted the mock interview. Their goal: to argue that Trump couldn’t possibly testify because he was incapable of telling the truth.

“He just made something up. That’s his nature,” Dowd said to Mueller (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/09/woodward-book-fear-trump-staff-idiot-moron-liar.html).

Well we knew this already didn't we?

[Wrathbringer]

You can buy the book here (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/fear-bob-woodward/1129202161?ean=9781501175510&st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_New+Core+Shopping+Books_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP211428&gclid=CjwKCAjw2rjcBRBuEiwAheKeL0BF0KGo1u06iM9nfW92 kmsqh6JG-WReOJtFfvnRI3m0PAKuVpnDHxoCSIwQAvD_BwE#/). Enjoy!

You're retarded. Stop making gay threads.

[cwolff]

Dowd then explained to Mueller and Quarles why he was trying to keep the president from testifying: "I'm not going to sit there and let him look like an idiot. And you publish that transcript, because everything leaks in Washington, and the guys overseas are going to say, 'I told you he was an idiot. I told you he was a goddamn dumbbell. What are we dealing with this idiot for?' " "
"John, I understand," Mueller replied, according to Woodward.
Later that month, Dowd told Trump: "Don't testify. It's either that or an orange jumpsuit."
But Trump, concerned about the optics of a president refusing to testify and convinced that he could handle Mueller's questions, had by then decided otherwise.
"I'll be a real good witness," Trump told Dowd, according to Woodward.
"You are not a good witness," Dowd replied. "Mr. President, I'm afraid I just can't help you."
The next morning, Dowd resigned.


So now we know why Dowd quit. He also thinks trumps a dipshit.

[Wrathbringer]

[/B]


So now we know why Dowd quit. He also thinks trumps a dipshit.

He probably thinks you're a dipshit too. I know I do.

[Fortybox]

He probably thinks you're a dipshit too. I know I do.

I find him enjoyable as a constant reminder why Trump won. I am increasingly optimistic that this so called blue wave is non-existent.

People look at this behavior and it totally and completely turns them off. This is why I say keep at it.

[cwolff]

Trump faced widespread criticism after he initially said that “both sides” were to blame for the violence that broke out at the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., last August.
He later condemned white supremacists and neo-Nazis at the urging of his advisers, according to Woodward.

“That was the biggest f---ing mistake I’ve made,” Trump reportedly told aides almost immediately after the condemnation.
Trump also called it the “worst speech I’ve ever given,” according to Woodward's account.


I wonder why he thinks it was a big mistake? Loss of votes? Looking weak? Giving in to Cohn who threatened to quit?

[Wrathbringer]

I wonder why he thinks it was a big mistake? Loss of votes? Looking weak? Giving in to Cohn who threatened to quit?

Have you not noticed that no one is discussing anything with you? Why do you keep posting? Other than retardation?

[time4fun]

So I had the longest day at work ever, and I'm just starting to rejoin the world. And I look at my little news aggregation tool, and I MISSED SO MUCH. And that basically sums up 2018.

I think one of the most telling things about Trump is that the people who are closest to him are the ones who have the worst things to say about him. At some point- this all begs the question: why do these people keep going to these authors and telling them everything that's going on?

It seems incredibly risky. And none of them are trying to make Trump look good.

The only logical answer at this point is that the people who are closest to Trump are trying desperately to warn everyone of just how dangerous he is. They're waving red flags frantically to get people to pay attention.

So pay attention.

[IorakeWarhammer]

Liberals are flailing so hard right now. Jesus.

[time4fun]

Liberals are flailing so hard right now. Jesus.

LOL. I don't know what movie you're watching right now, but it's definitely the wrong one.

[~Rocktar~]

So I had the longest day at work ever, and I'm just starting to rejoin the world. And I look at my little news aggregation tool, and I MISSED SO MUCH. And that basically sums up 2018.

I think one of the most telling things about Trump is that the people who are closest to him are the ones who have the worst things to say about him. At some point- this all begs the question: why do these people keep going to these authors and telling them everything that's going on?

It seems incredibly risky. And none of them are trying to make Trump look good.

The only logical answer at this point is that the people who are closest to Trump are trying desperately to warn everyone of just how dangerous he is. They're waving red flags frantically to get people to pay attention.

So pay attention.

Or the author could be making shit up off of he said she said whispers from 3rd or 4th party accounts. I am much more concerned with policies and actions out of the Executive Branch than I am with a President that says mean things and has a Twitter control problem.

Super low unemployment, lowest African American unemployment since it has been measured, super low Hispanic American unemployment, blue collar jobs returning, less oppressive and pointless government regulations, no pay increase for entitled Federal employees, better trade deals, no new wars, no one has been nuked despite the media's best efforts and people are finally beginning to really question the media when they spew bullshit. All in all, I am getting what I voted for.

Best of all, all you crybully politically correct little emotional children have your feelers all in an uproar over mean words.

Keep up the performances in the confirmation hearings along with continuing down the Socialist rabbit hole with that fruit loop Cortez and you can nearly guarantee a red House and Senate for Trumps second term.

Cry on.

[Fortybox]

Now we know where T4F was...


https://youtu.be/Jid6XBaTGr8

[time4fun]

Yes, the author who has won just about every journalist award under the sun, who has written a dozen #1 best-selling biographies with a stellar record decided to throw his entire career away just to make Trump look bad.

And the fact that all of the tell-all books about Trump have been remarkably consistent in how they describe his character (and which are remarkably consistent with previous biographies written about Trump) isn't a sign that they're accurately reflecting Trump as a person...it means there's yet another giant conspiracy out there with a whole lot of people throwing away their careers just to "get Trump"!

And you don't sound insane at all.

[IorakeWarhammer]

LOL. I don't know what movie you're watching right now, but it's definitely the wrong one.

All I can say is I can't wait to vote for him again in 2020.

[Tgo01]

Now we know where T4F was...


https://youtu.be/Jid6XBaTGr8

Jesus Christ. I honestly don't know who was acting more like immature brats, the Democrat senators or the people who started shouting and screaming.

[Fortybox]

Jesus Christ. I honestly don't know who was acting more like immature brats, the Democrat senators or the people who started shouting and screaming.

Trump giving opinions via tweet = ZOMG DICTATORSHIP AMERICA TURNING NAZI GERMANY!!!111oneinfinity+1

Crybaby liberals throwing profanity insults and disruptive to the process = A-ok - no problem here!

[~Rocktar~]

Yes, the author who has won just about every journalist award under the sun, who has written a dozen #1 best-selling biographies with a stellar record decided to throw his entire career away just to make Trump look bad.

A journalist that got awards from other journalists in the past and who has ridden an early career hit on name recognition. Popular doesn't equal good or accurate. The National Enquirer is not good, it is very popular. These are not arguments and without sources that corroborate the commentary publicly, of which there are few, most of the major players have already publicly denied the attributed comments, you can't take the opinion of an author seriously. Arguing to the popular is not an argument.


And the fact that all of the tell-all books about Trump have been remarkably consistent in how they describe his character (and which are remarkably consistent with previous biographies written about Trump) isn't a sign that they're accurately reflecting Trump as a person...it means there's yet another giant conspiracy out there with a whole lot of people throwing away their careers just to "get Trump"!

Viewing a bunch of books written by people with a substantial political bias and who all run in the same circles with a financial interest in supporting and protecting each other does not mean they are accurate or credible. Again, arguing to the majority is not an argument.


And you don't sound insane at all.

You are neither qualified nor competent to judge sanity in anyone. Unless of course you have yet another degree and license from somewhere lofty that sounds good on a fake resume.

[Fortybox]

Loved this from Judge Napolitano about the tactics of the left:


If you can't interfere with a nomination, let's interfere with the process.

First time in my life that I'd acknowledge the real possibility of a civil war is in fact actually possible. These people are crazy.

[Tgo01]

First time in my life that I'd acknowledge the real possibility of a civil war is in fact actually possible. These people are crazy.

Things have gone to shit fast since the Democrats lost in 2016. I used to think everyone would just go to work the next day and carry on as usual, I thought the same when Obama won in 2008, when Obamacare was passed, and when Obama won in 2012, and everyone did just go to work the next day and carry on as usual. I thought everything would be fine after Trump won in 2016 and for the most part it is, but these lunatics only feel more emboldened because Democrat leaders themselves are either too afraid to stand up to them or they in fact agree with their shit.

I still don't think an actual civil war is in the near future, in the sense that states will start to secede from the union, but I can't totally rule out the possibility of armed civilians starting shit.

[Astray]

I'm sure it makes for a compelling read.

[~Rocktar~]

Some great points here. The Left is deathly afraid of an actual limit on the power of government.


https://youtu.be/8XeTN1Cmcts

[time4fun]

A journalist that got awards from other journalists in the past and who has ridden an early career hit on name recognition. Popular doesn't equal good or accurate. The National Enquirer is not good, it is very popular. These are not arguments and without sources that corroborate the commentary publicly, of which there are few, most of the major players have already publicly denied the attributed comments, you can't take the opinion of an author seriously. Arguing to the popular is not an argument.



Viewing a bunch of books written by people with a substantial political bias and who all run in the same circles with a financial interest in supporting and protecting each other does not mean they are accurate or credible. Again, arguing to the majority is not an argument.



You are neither qualified nor competent to judge sanity in anyone. Unless of course you have yet another degree and license from somewhere lofty that sounds good on a fake resume.

ROFLMAO

Yeah I prefer those professional excellence awards that are given out by people who aren't in the profession. I mean, when the Fire Department gives you that "Most innovative nuclear physicist ever!" award- you know that means something. What a genuinely ridiculous argument.

You ability to imagine "substantial political bias" is hilarious. If there's something that Woodward has *never* been accused of- it's this. Contrary to your perverted beliefs- criticizing Trump doesn't make you politically biased. But deciding that anyone who DOES criticize him is biased IS an example of political bias.

And no one's taking any form of sanity advice from someone who routinely goes off on the attack of Marxists and the rapists, slavers, and murderers of the left!

I hate to break it to you, but the reason why these books resonate is that they're actually remarkably consistent with what we've seen from Trump ourselves. And though you love to talk about "fake news" (while quoting articles from actual fake news sites, no less) and these horrible journalists who just make things up...they've actually been right about Trump. It's Trump who objectively has a record of making things up.

The journalists from NYT, WaPo, CNN, Bloomberg, Reuters, etc. have been right this whole time. The vast majority of the major stories that broke about Trump have ended up being confirmed. (ESPECIALLY in cases where Trump has come out claiming they were fake news stories, if you haven't noticed).

Your inability to deal with reality may bring you comfort when it allows you to believe you're making successful rhetorical points, but it doesn't change the fact that all of those horrible "biased" journalists have been relaying accurate information to you about your government. You can resent them all you want, but that just makes you a fool who has fallen in love with an authoritarian and corrupt Executive.

[time4fun]

Some great points here. The Left is deathly afraid of an actual limit on the power of government.


https://youtu.be/8XeTN1Cmcts

He says- 24 hours after Trump went on record saying the Justice Department should be giving breaks to Republican Congresspeople before an election for the benefit of the party. The same guy who has repeatedly instructed the DoJ to go after his political rivals. The same one who has twice tried to fire a special prosecutor tasked with investigating Russian interference in this election AND the firing of the FBI Director for refusing to halt said investigation on Trump's request.

Do NOT lecture anyone here about "fearing limit of the power of government". That is the single most disingenuous thing you've ever said. And THAT"S saying something.

[Tgo01]

ROFLMAO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEWgs6YQR9A

[~Rocktar~]

He says- 24 hours after Trump went on record saying the Justice Department should be giving breaks to Republican Congresspeople before an election for the benefit of the party. The same guy who has repeatedly instructed the DoJ to go after his political rivals. The same one who has twice tried to fire a special prosecutor tasked with investigating Russian interference in this election AND the firing of the FBI Director for refusing to halt said investigation on Trump's request.

Do NOT lecture anyone here about "fearing limit of the power of government". That is the single most disingenuous thing you've ever said. And THAT"S saying something.

HAHAHAHAHAHA no. Any more things you want to make up in your fevered little brain?

[Some Rogue]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/comments/9cyy7v/only_the_obama_wh_can_get_away_with_attacking_bob/?ref=share&ref_source=link

9146 (https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/comments/9cyy7v/only_the_obama_wh_can_get_away_with_attacking_bob/?ref=share&ref_source=link)

[Candor]

In a couple years there will be a mini-series on one of the major networks about the Trump white house (I would guess CBS).

[cwolff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/comments/9cyy7v/only_the_obama_wh_can_get_away_with_attacking_bob/?ref=share&ref_source=link

9146 (https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/comments/9cyy7v/only_the_obama_wh_can_get_away_with_attacking_bob/?ref=share&ref_source=link)

In this age of "fake news", "exaggerated hyperbole", "alternative facts" and "the truth isn't truth" one idea holds firm as a bulwark against increasingly fluid standards of reality. That one idea is the law that says for every trump tweet there is an equal and opposite trump counter tweet.


In a couple years there will be a mini-series on one of the major networks about the Trump white house (I would guess CBS).

If things go really bad he'll have a weekly show on state TV like Putin.


https://youtu.be/9LgbNYi8Dn4

[Methais]

Remember how we were just talking about how these idiots make a new thread for everything Trump while they were saying other people are spamming bullshit all over the forums or whatever dumb shit it was that I’m too lazy to go back and find because soywolff eats his own anus? :lol:

[Methais]

Now we know where T4F was...


https://youtu.be/Jid6XBaTGr8

Why is the guy on the left wearing a chairsuit though?

https://i.imgur.com/kGCaya2.jpg

[RichardCranium]

Remember how we were just talking about how these idiots make a new thread for everything Trump while they were saying other people are spamming bullshit all over the forums or whatever dumb shit it was that I’m too lazy to go back and find because soywolff eats his own anus? :lol:

Reported for stalking.

[Astray]

If this weren't obsession, what is?

[kutter]

ROFLMAO

Yeah I prefer those professional excellence awards that are given out by people who aren't in the profession. I mean, when the Fire Department gives you that "Most innovative nuclear physicist ever!" award- you know that means something. What a genuinely ridiculous argument.

You ability to imagine "substantial political bias" is hilarious. If there's something that Woodward has *never* been accused of- it's this. Contrary to your perverted beliefs- criticizing Trump doesn't make you politically biased. But deciding that anyone who DOES criticize him is biased IS an example of political bias.

And no one's taking any form of sanity advice from someone who routinely goes off on the attack of Marxists and the rapists, slavers, and murderers of the left!

I hate to break it to you, but the reason why these books resonate is that they're actually remarkably consistent with what we've seen from Trump ourselves. And though you love to talk about "fake news" (while quoting articles from actual fake news sites, no less) and these horrible journalists who just make things up...they've actually been right about Trump. It's Trump who objectively has a record of making things up.

The journalists from NYT, WaPo, CNN, Bloomberg, Reuters, etc. have been right this whole time. The vast majority of the major stories that broke about Trump have ended up being confirmed. (ESPECIALLY in cases where Trump has come out claiming they were fake news stories, if you haven't noticed).

Your inability to deal with reality may bring you comfort when it allows you to believe you're making successful rhetorical points, but it doesn't change the fact that all of those horrible "biased" journalists have been relaying accurate information to you about your government. You can resent them all you want, but that just makes you a fool who has fallen in love with an authoritarian and corrupt Executive.

Ok, just wait, really, wait, why is it that someone that thinks you like that won awards is more credible than someone that won the same awards but does not think like you? So let me get this straight, Woodward is a bastion of all that is moral and just and only tells the truth and Goldberg is just a shill for the right? Does that about sum it up? It appears your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

[time4fun]

Ok, just wait, really, wait, why is it that someone that thinks you like that won awards is more credible than someone that won the same awards but does not think like you? So let me get this straight, Woodward is a bastion of all that is moral and just and only tells the truth and Goldberg is just a shill for the right? Does that about sum it up? It appears your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I'm not really sure what post you're replying to, but I know it can't be mine. I never mentioned Goldberg, I don't actually know what Woodward's political leanings are (and I really don't know why it matters as this wasn't a book with partisan goals), I also don't know what his personal opinions of Trump are (and neither do you), and my point about the award was me criticizing someone for suggesting that non-journalists would somehow be better at giving journalism excellence awards than actual journalists.

You made up an entire argument, complete with a set of made up "facts", in your head; associated me with it; and then proceeded to argue with imaginary me.

Though it's unclear why you thought that was a winning strategy.

[ClydeR]

Of all the leaks from the book, this is my favorite..


Reince Priebus, his former chief of staff, calls the presidential bedroom, where Trump goes to tweet, “the devil’s workshop,” and early mornings and Sunday nights, when Trump is at loose ends, “the witching hour.”

More... (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/books/review-fear-trump-in-white-house-bob-woodward.html)

[Parkbandit]

Things have gone to shit fast since the Democrats lost in 2016. I used to think everyone would just go to work the next day and carry on as usual, I thought the same when Obama won in 2008, when Obamacare was passed, and when Obama won in 2012, and everyone did just go to work the next day and carry on as usual. I thought everything would be fine after Trump won in 2016 and for the most part it is, but these lunatics only feel more emboldened because Democrat leaders themselves are either too afraid to stand up to them or they in fact agree with their shit.

I still don't think an actual civil war is in the near future, in the sense that states will start to secede from the union, but I can't totally rule out the possibility of armed civilians starting shit.

They lost their collective minds over Reagan, Bush, Bush and Trump.

This isn't something new... the degree of crazy has just gone up.

[SHAFT]

So much for the Woodward book being a story...

[Methais]

You made up an entire argument, complete with a set of made up "facts", in your head; associated me with it; and then proceeded to argue with imaginary me.

Though it's unclear why you thought that was a winning strategy. I mean look at me. I've been doing it for years and it still hasn't worked out.

Yes yes, this is why you're so entertaining.

[cwolff]

Veteran journalist Bob Woodward said Sunday morning that people needed to "wake up" to what's going on in the White House.
"People better wake up to what's going on," Woodward, whose new book describes a White House in turmoil, told "CBS Sunday Morning."
"You look at the operation of this White House and you have to say, 'Let's hope to God we don't have a crisis.'"


Now that the WH has admitted the NYT didn't fabricate the op-ed author and they can't really attack woodward because he has his sources on tape, it's time for the right to look inward and start addressing all the problems that have been raised.

[Tgo01]

Now that the WH has admitted the NYT didn't fabricate the op-ed

The White House admitted this? Source?

[ClydeR]

Trump is writing the real book..






https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmurjG-VAAAW9ZU.jpg

[Methais]

Trump is writing the real book..






https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmurjG-VAAAW9ZU.jpg

https://pics.me.me/1-national-best-seller-trump-the-art-of-the-deal-6572975.png

[ClydeR]

Are you buying Woodward's book? It's $19.50 on Amazon for hardcover or $14.99 for Kindle.

[Methais]

Are you buying Woodward's book? It's $19.50 on Amazon for hardcover or $14.99 for Kindle.

https://images.amcnetworks.com/ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Beavis-and-Butthead-Do-America-e1459546044870-800x400.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/qeps3.jpg

[cwolff]

Are you buying Woodward's book? It's $19.50 on Amazon for hardcover or $14.99 for Kindle.

Yup, already bought it for kindle on pre-order

[Methais]

Yup, already bought it for kindle on pre-order

https://i.imgur.com/UDkxmfY.gif

[Gelston]

The White House admitted this? Source?

I like how this wasn't answered.

[Astray]

I like how this wasn't answered.

I think Trump referenced an investigation and that's where he's basing that out of.

[Methais]

I like how this wasn't answered.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/ba01bb5e00b5afe436657f889ea53469/tenor.gif?itemid=3477451

[Wrathbringer]

Yup, already bought it for kindle on pre-order

:lol: you're retarded.

[Methais]

:lol: you're retarded.

He’s still staring out the window waiting for the UPS guy despite preordering a digital copy.

[~Rocktar~]

He’s still staring out the window waiting for the UPS guy despite preordering a digital copy.


https://youtu.be/Lqz_tbBr2ts

[~Rocktar~]

Followed by:


https://youtu.be/spoazPZxoH4

Except his delivery person will look like:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/-jz5pGaoROCQ/Tx7DkMn1m0I/AAAAAAAAA8o/WwERBQwo3qA/Fat%20Ugly%20People%20Ugly%20People%20Fat%20Scary% 20Man%20MTV26.jpg

[ClydeR]

It's already on back order in hard copy. Amazon says they sold out and it will take a few weeks to get more. If you order it from Amazon while it is on backorder, you can get it for $18. Kindle seems to be the way to go.

I did not want to read the book until I heard it was nearly sold out. Now something in my subconscious says I need to go buy a copy before somebody else gets it.

[Astray]

It's already on back order in hard copy. Amazon says they sold out and it will take a few weeks to get more. If you order it from Amazon while it is on backorder, you can get it for $18.

Fake.

It's already used on Amazon for 16 bucks.

[ClydeR]

Fake.

It's already used on Amazon for 16 bucks.


You can get bedbugs from used books.

[Methais]

You can get books from used bedbugs.

Fixed.

[Astray]

You can get bedbugs from used books.

Where are you going to buy your used books?

[ClydeR]

Where are you going to buy your used books?


I don't buy used books or borrow library books because I don't want bedbugs.

[Astray]

I don't buy used books or borrow library books because I don't want bedbugs.

Okay. Never had a problem before but sure, I guess it's a legit concern.

[Methais]

I don't buy used books or borrow library books because I don't want bedbugs.

Those are bookbugs.

[cwolff]

Here's a quote from the book about Bannon's ideas to simplify/streamline trump's message during the campaign. How does limiting legal immigration get our sovereignty back?

[Methais]

Here's a quote from the book about Bannon's ideas to simplify/streamline trump's message during the campaign. How does limiting legal immigration get our sovereignty back?

Pretty sure they got rid of the immigration lottery. That's a good place to start.

PS: You're stupid.

[cwolff]

"Don't you think people look through the fact that you can write a sensational, nonsense book, CNN will definitely have you on there because they love to trash the president," Trump said, responding to Fox and Friends host Steve Doocy, who asked if the book detailed "chaos" in the White House.
"It will mean you sell three extra books, you make three extra shekels," Trump continued. "Is that really where we are? I think people see through this."


The 'isms drip off these fucks like oil from a British car. They can't help themselves but put a prejudicial tinge on everything they say and that's being charitable. It could be a deliberate way to communicate with their base to let them know that even though they can't come right out and say it just yet, they totally support white power.

[Astray]

The 'isms drip off these fucks like oil from a British car. They can't help themselves but put a prejudicial tinge on everything they say and that's being charitable. It could be a deliberate way to communicate with their base to let them know that even though they can't come right out and say it just yet, they totally support white power.

Shekel is problematic?


Also sheqel. a paper money, cupronickel or silver coin, and monetary unit of Israel equal to 100 agorot: replaced the pound in 1980.

Is that not the definition of Shekel?

[Wrathbringer]

The 'isms drip off these fucks like oil from a British car. They can't help themselves but put a prejudicial tinge on everything they say and that's being charitable. It could be a deliberate way to communicate with their base to let them know that even though they can't come right out and say it just yet, they totally support white power.

You're really stupid.

[Methais]

The 'isms drip off these fucks like oil from a British car. They can't help themselves but put a prejudicial tinge on everything they say and that's being charitable. It could be a deliberate way to communicate with their base to let them know that even though they can't come right out and say it just yet, they totally support white power.

https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif

[time4fun]

Here's a quote from the book about Bannon's ideas to simplify/streamline trump's message during the campaign. How does limiting legal immigration get our sovereignty back?

White ethnonationalism at its finest.

Ironically, it's the people who voted for Trump because of his ethnonationalist narratives and race-baiting who are the first to defend him as "not racist".

[Astray]

White ethnonationalism at its finest.

Ironically, it's the people who voted for Trump because of his ethnonationalist narratives and race-baiting who are the first to defend him as "not racist".

Could you explain the impropriety in shekels if in context to definition it's appropriate?

[Wrathbringer]

White ethnonationalism at its finest.

Ironically, it's the people who voted for Trump because of his ethnonationalist narratives and race-baiting who are the first to defend him as "not racist".

You're retarded.

[Wrathbringer]

https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif

:lol:

[cwolff]

Could you explain the impropriety in shekels if in context to definition it's appropriate?

Here's what Admiral Akbar has to say about it. Note: I dont think its "that" admiral

AdmiralAkbar1 • Dec 1, 2015, 12:50 PM
Shekels are the Israeli currency. It's generally used sarcastically (usually with the /r/conspiracy crowd) to refer to money, often with the connotation that Jews are greedy and try to control the market.

[cwolff]

White ethnonationalism at its finest.

Ironically, it's the people who voted for Trump because of his ethnonationalist narratives and race-baiting who are the first to defend him as "not racist".

Indeed. They like to play stupid until they're powerful enough to be more open with it. Plausible deniability at its finest.

[Methais]

White ethnonationalism at its finest.

Ironically, it's the people who voted for Trump because of his ethnonationalist narratives and race-baiting who are the first to defend him as "not racist".

https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif


Indeed. They like to play stupid until they're powerful enough to be more open with it. Plausible deniability at its finest.

https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif

[Wrathbringer]

Indeed. They like to play stupid until they're powerful enough to be more open with it. Plausible deniability at its finest.

lol u r dumb

[Astray]

Here's what Admiral Akbar has to say about it. Note: I dont think its "that" admiral

AdmiralAkbar1 • Dec 1, 2015, 12:50 PM
Shekels are the Israeli currency. It's generally used sarcastically (usually with the /r/conspiracy crowd) to refer to money, often with the connotation that Jews are greedy and try to control the market.

That's a really dumb explanation. Why do a group of people we don't listen to in the first place get to dictate the associations on words? I highly doubt that the use of Shekels had any connotation to Jews in this instance. Is this a racist thing that I need to put on special glasses for?

[Tgo01]

Why do a group of people we don't listen to in the first place get to dictate the associations on words?

It's what the left does best these days. They don't have an actual political message that appeals to a lot of people so they have to resort to slandering the opposition however they can.

Just look what cwolff said about Trump asking his secretary of state to look into the South African's government plan of forcibly taking away land from white land owners: OMG! Trump is worried about the same thing that white nationalists are worried about! This proves he's a racist!

He legit said this (I'm paraphrasing him here.)

You know how conservatives like to call progressives sensitive snowflakes? Well some people have started the claim that this proves they are Nazis because Nazis supposedly referred to the ashes of humans as snowflakes.

Look at Pepe the Frog for crying out loud. A stupid cartoon frog that was co-opted as the official mascot of a made up country called Kekistan where all of the shitposters live and now the left associates the frog as a white supremacist symbol.

How about the okay hand gesture? Now it's a white supremacist symbol after some in Trump's administration/campaign were "caught" using it.

[Astray]

Look at Pepe the Frog for crying out loud. A stupid cartoon frog that was co-opted as the official mascot of a made up country called Kekistan where all of the shitposters live and now the left associates the frog as a white supremacist symbol.

How about the okay hand gesture? Now it's a white supremacist symbol after some in Trump's administration/campaign were "caught" using it.

Don't remind me what they did to Pepe. It's the height of absurd to believe that a frog with red lips is somehow a parody of black people. They had to fucking DIG for that one.

[Methais]

Don't remind me what they did to Pepe. It's the height of absurd to believe that a frog with red lips is somehow a parody of black people. They had to fucking DIG for that one.

I bet cwolff buys into it completely and is convinced that that's the truth about Pepe.

Start responding to his posts with Pepe pics and it won't take long at all for him to say you just proved you're a Nazi. He has me on ignore because he's a butthurt little twatcunt, so he won't even see this. :lol:

https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/1200.jpg

[Astray]

If I had any photoshop abilities I'd change my avatar to include Pepe. While still maintaining the cigarette.

[Methais]

Best I can do with lazy cropping.

https://i.imgur.com/uAe3QRU.png

[cwolff]

That's a really dumb explanation. Why do a group of people we don't listen to in the first place get to dictate the associations on words? I highly doubt that the use of Shekels had any connotation to Jews in this instance. Is this a racist thing that I need to put on special glasses for?

I dont expect you to believe this, see it or even be open to the dog whistle politics of the right. I wish you guys could at least be open minded to it. To take an objective look. Some of it can surely be discarded as a gaffe but not all

[Methais]

I dont expect you to believe this, see it or even be open to the dog whistle politics of the right. I wish you guys could at least be open minded to it. To take an objective look. Some of it can surely be discarded as a gaffe but not all

You're bad and you should feel bad.

[Ashlander]

I wish you guys could at least be open minded to it. To take an objective look.

Irony at it's best.

[cwolff]

Irony at it's best.

Why? Because you believe I'm close minded? In a leftist cult? Give examples and some explanation.

[Astray]

Some of it can surely be discarded as a gaffe but not all

Okay, so I'll be discarding this as a gaffe. My reasoning being that the use of the word 'shekel' is appropriate in its given definition.

[Tgo01]

Why? Because you believe I'm close minded?

Yes.


In a leftist cult?

Yes.


Give examples and some explanation.

How about when you couldn't bring yourself to denounce the South African government for its racist proposals of taking away land from citizens based on the color of their skin?

[cwolff]

Okay, so I'll be discarding this as a gaffe. My reasoning being that the use of the word 'shekel' is appropriate in its given definition.

Appropriate is the word dollars.

[Astray]

Appropriate is the word dollars.

Money. Shekels are money in the definitive form. Listen, we're gonna go 'round and round here if this keeps up.

[cwolff]

Money. Shekels are money in the definitive form. Listen, we're gonna go 'round and round here if this keeps up.

Nothing to go round and round about. You're willing to defend a trump of anything and unwilling to recognize the insulting way money has been used when describing jews by anti Semites.

All in all its fair to say that Eric showed a real lack of awareness and bad judgement to use the word shekels while criticizing woodward for writing tabloid journalism in a greedy money grab. Not only is he smearing and lying about Woodward but he managed to insult Jews at the same time.

Bad judgement? A simple slip of the tongue? A momentary lapse of reason? Overt call out to a white supremacy leaning base? Theres no good explanation here

[Tgo01]

Nothing to go round and round about. You're willing to defend a trump of anything and unwilling to recognize the insulting way money has been used when describing jews by anti Semites.

See? It's what cwolff and his ilk do best.

"I once saw a racist, white supremacist Nazi use THIS EXACT SAME WORD BEFORE! Therefore if anyone uses this word (as long as I don't like them) then they too are a racist, white supremacist Nazi!"

[Astray]

Nothing to go round and round about. You're willing to defend a trump of anything and unwilling to recognize the insulting way money has been used when describing jews by anti Semites.

You want it to be that because you're so wrapped up in your personal opinion you can't be bothered with an open mind. I asked, you said why you believed it to be one way, I accept that, tell you why I see it another way and you want to lump me into a racist grouping.

I don't know what else to do because it's obvious the only answer you want is your own.

[Wrathbringer]

Nothing to go round and round about. You're willing to defend a trump of anything and unwilling to recognize the insulting way money has been used when describing jews by anti Semites.

All in all its fair to say that Eric showed a real lack of awareness and bad judgement to use the word shekels while criticizing woodward for writing tabloid journalism in a greedy money grab. Not only is he smearing and lying about Woodward but he managed to insult Jews at the same time.

Bad judgement? A simple slip of the tongue? A momentary lapse of reason? Overt call out to a white supremacy leaning base? Theres no good explanation here

u r dumb

[cwolff]

You want it to be that because you're so wrapped up in your personal opinion you can't be bothered with an open mind. I asked, you said why you believed it to be one way, I accept that, tell you why I see it another way and you want to lump me into a racist grouping.

I don't know what else to do because it's obvious the only answer you want is your own.

I havent asked you for any answers. I did point out that if anything dollars and not shekels should have been used. I don't think you'll agree though

[Astray]

I havent asked you for any answers. I did point out that if anything dollars and not shekels should have been used. I don't think you'll agree though

I'm aware of the difference but it's still an entirely appropriate way to say it. I largely doubt the intent was to somehow attack the Jewish community or incite antisemitism.

But sure, money is a completely acceptable answer too. Even if Shekel is literally just another way of saying money.

[Methais]

Nothing to go round and round about. You're willing to defend a trump of anything and unwilling to recognize the insulting way money has been used when describing jews by anti Semites.

All in all its fair to say that Eric showed a real lack of awareness and bad judgement to use the word shekels while criticizing woodward for writing tabloid journalism in a greedy money grab. Not only is he smearing and lying about Woodward but he managed to insult Jews at the same time.

Bad judgement? A simple slip of the tongue? A momentary lapse of reason? Overt call out to a white supremacy leaning base? Theres no good explanation here


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BCfN7B0ugU

[cwolff]

I'm aware of the difference but it's still an entirely appropriate way to say it. I largely doubt the intent was to somehow attack the Jewish community or incite antisemitism.

But sure, money is a completely acceptable answer too. Even if Shekel is literally just another way of saying money.

Shekel is another way of saying money in Israel. Here in America we say dollars, greenback, bucks etc...

Here's another explanation from Bill Kristol. I'm not making this shit up.


Conservative commentator Bill Kristol on Wednesday slammed Eric Trump over his comments alleging veteran journalist Bob Woodward published his most recent book in order to make "three extra shekels."

Kristol posted a Twitter poll asking if Trump was "too stupid to know he's being anti-Semitic," with the options "yes," "no," and "not mutually exclusive."

[Parkbandit]

I dont expect you to believe this, see it or even be open to the dog whistle politics of the right. I wish you guys could at least be open minded to it. To take an objective look. Some of it can surely be discarded as a gaffe but not all

https://media.giphy.com/media/3Wun4UTM2Xqzm/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

Why? Because you believe I'm close minded? In a leftist cult? Give examples and some explanation.

Examples: Every single political post you've ever made.

[Tgo01]

Shekel is another way of saying money in Israel. Here in America we say dollars, greenback, bucks etc...

I better stop saying dinero or else the cwolff political correctness police will accuse me of hating Mexicans :(

[Astray]

I better stop saying dinero or else the cwolff political correctness police will accuse me of hating Mexicans :(

If you hate Mexicans I got some bad news, bro.

[Parkbandit]

I better stop saying dinero or else the cwolff political correctness police will accuse me of hating Mexicans :(

It's not Mexican, you racist bastard. It's Peruvian.

THEY AREN'T ALL THE SAME YOU KNOW!

[Tgo01]

If you hate Mexicans I got some bad news, bro.

Are you of the brown persuasion?


It's not Mexican, you racist bastard. It's Peruvian.

THEY AREN'T ALL THE SAME YOU KNOW!

:(

[Astray]

Are you of the brown persuasion?

Si.

Which is Spanish for 'yes'.

[Gelston]

Si.

Which is Spanish for 'yes'.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/199/566/f3c.jpg

[Tgo01]

Si.

Which is Spanish for 'yes'.

Hey, buddy, here in America we just say "yes" or "yup"! Racist.

[Astray]

Jokes on you, Gelston, my people settled here first. So you're going back to Germany where you're from.

I'm darker than you Tgo, I am automatically correct.

[Tgo01]

I'm darker than you Tgo, I am automatically correct.

:(

[Gelston]

Jokes on you, Gelston, my people settled here first. So you're going back to Germany where you're from.

I'm darker than you Tgo, I am automatically correct.

Jokes on you, we took this land from your burrito eating ass. I'm also not German.

[Astray]

Jokes on you, we took this land from your burrito eating ass. I'm also not German.

If you're not German why are you dressed like a Nazi?

[Gelston]

If you're not German why are you dressed like a Nazi?

I'm not. I'm wearing nike apparel.

[Parkbandit]

I'm not. I'm wearing nike apparel.

CULTURAL APPROPRIATION ALERT LEVEL 5!!!!!!!!!

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[Methais]

Shekel is another way of saying money in Israel. Here in America we say dollars, greenback, bucks etc...

Here's another explanation from Bill Kristol. I'm not making this shit up.

That must be why he made Jerusalem the capital of Israel and moved our embassy there or whatever it was, because he hates Jews so much.

[Tgo01]

That must be why he made Jerusalem the capital of Israel and moved our embassy there or whatever it was, because he hates Jews so much.

What's really funny was watching Democrats attack Trump and Jews for this move and take the side of terrorists and "protesters" who attacked Israel for this move. Now they are saying Trump is the anti-Semite. It's almost as if they are just anti-Trump no matter what he does, even if it makes them look like complete hypocrites.

[Methais]

I better stop saying dinero or else the cwolff political correctness police will accuse me of hating Mexicans :(

https://i.imgur.com/5kC5Yen.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/5kC5Yen.gif


I'm darker than you Tgo, I am automatically correct.

https://i.imgur.com/V0eXovd.jpg

[cwolff]

Bob Woodward's new book, "Fear: Trump in the White House," sold more than 750,000 copies through its first day of release, the most for any title in Simon & Schuster history, according to the 94-year-old publisher.
...
The publisher also announced that it ordered a ninth printing, sending the total number of hardcover copies in print above 1.15 million.

"Based on immense pre-publication and ongoing interest, the reading public clearly has an enormous appetite for what we believe, as Woodward says, is 'a pivot point in history,'" said Simon & Schuster President Jonathan Karp in a Wednesday statement.

Barnes & Noble, meanwhile, said "Fear" has had the "fastest sales for an adult title” since July 2015.

Trump is a great salesman.

[Methais]

Trump is a great for the economy.

Yes we know. Too bad you're still retarded.

[cwolff]

Former national security adviser H.R. McMaster on Tuesday defended his ex-White House colleague Gary Cohn for removing a trade-related document from President's Trump.
"I know about that incident and that was wholly appropriate for Gary Cohn, who was a wonderful public servant and a great colleague, to do," McMaster said during an appearance an event held by Perry World House.
He was responding to a question about whether removing papers from the desk of a commander in chief fits the role of a civil servant, since he had argued it isn't their job to check a democratically elected president's power but rather to help make him or her successful.


McMaster is publicly verifying this story from Woodwards book. Is it still fake?

[Wrathbringer]

McMaster is publicly verifying this story from Woodwards book. Is it still fake?

You're still retarded.

[ClydeR]

That must be why he made Jerusalem the capital of Israel and moved our embassy there or whatever it was, because he hates Jews so much.



You no longer have to guess why..


US President Donald Trump said Monday that his 2017 decision to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and recognize the city as the capital of Israel was done for evangelical Christians.

“And we moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem,” Trump said at a rally held at an airport in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, apparently referring to his decision to move the embassy from Tel Aviv. “That’s for the evangelicals.”

More... (https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-says-he-moved-us-embassy-to-jerusalem-for-the-evangelicals/)

[Methais]

You no longer have to guess why..

lol @ you