Did Trump obstruct justice?

[Androidpk]

.

[RichardCranium]

Yes, with tacos.

[Androidpk]

the taco train just got 10 tacos longer

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[Methais]

Hopefully no females will be playing with their tacos in here or else we'll have to hear you complaining about it.

[Androidpk]

Methais is too much of a pussy to vote, despite spamming the Russian thread with his BS. Shocker.

[Neveragain]

Methais is too much of a pussy to vote, despite spamming the Russian thread with his BS. Shocker.

To be honest it's an extremely stupid poll.

http://media.giphy.com/media/DK3fnYqONwKgo/giphy.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIsnIt1p978

[Methais]

Methais is too much of a pussy to vote, despite spamming the Russian thread with his BS. Shocker.

Aw, poor pk got his feelings hurt again. What a little twat.

I forgot only the toughest of tough guys vote in your shitty internet polls with their improperly added tacos option.

Tell me more about how your rules work, internet tough guy.

https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED209/587154fbf1683.jpeg

And stop obstructing women from masturbating. Pussy.

[Androidpk]

Aw, poor pk got his feelings hurt again. What a little twat.

I forgot only the toughest of tough guys vote in your shitty internet polls with their improperly added tacos option.

Tell me more about how your rules work, internet tough guy.

https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED209/587154fbf1683.jpeg

And stop obstructing women from masturbating. Pussy.

says the keyboard warrior who talks shit to people everyday, saying shit he'd never say to someone's face cause he's a massive gaped pussy

[Tgo01]

says the keyboard warrior who talks shit to people everyday, saying shit he'd never say to someone's face cause he's a massive gaped pussy

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/youtubepoop/images/d/df/Patrick_Drooling.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140412132654

[RichardCranium]

I forgot only the toughest of tough guys vote in your shitty internet polls with their improperly added tacos option.

This is correct.

[Methais]

says the keyboard warrior who talks shit to people everyday, saying shit he'd never say to someone's face cause he's a massive gaped pussy

"I'LL BEAT YOU UP IN REAL LIFE IF YOU KEEP HURTING MY FEELINGS ON THE INTERNET, OH AND BY THE WAY YOU'RE THE KEYBOARD WARRIOR NOT ME!!!!!"
-PK

Just for the record though, I'd call you a piece of shit loser creepy stalker thief pussy sack of herpes cocks to your face too. Is this the part where you go down the list of ninja moves you'd do in response that would result in me being maimed for life, which is totally not something an actual keyboard warrior would say?

[Androidpk]

This is correct.

complains that I have my own rules, proceeds to bitch about how I set up the poll :lol:

[Androidpk]

"I'LL BEAT YOU UP IN REAL LIFE IF YOU KEEP HURTING MY FEELINGS ON THE INTERNET, OH AND BY THE WAY YOU'RE THE KEYBOARD WARRIOR NOT ME!!!!!"
-PK

Just for the record though, I'd call you a piece of shit loser creepy stalker thief pussy sack of herpes cocks to your face too. Is this the part where you go down the list of ninja moves you'd do in response that would result in me being maimed for life, which is totally not something an actual keyboard warrior would say?

methais is such a tough guy :lol:

[Methais]

complains that I have my own rules, proceeds to bitch about how I set up the poll :lol:

I mean pretty much everyone on the PC knows the "tacos" poll unwritten rule. You're just trying to be a hipster with it.

Stop being a hipster. No one likes them. Or you.

If it will really make you feel better though, I'll vote in your poll. Perhaps you'd also like cup of warm cocoa after to go with your PB&J with the crust cut off?

Would you like me to vote in your little poll?

[Stanley Burrell]

Fuckin' Tacos.

[Methais]

methais is such a tough guy :lol:

https://i.imgflip.com/2f6ahh.jpg

[Tgo01]

says the keyboard warrior who talks shit to people everyday, saying shit he'd never say to someone's face cause he's a massive gaped pussy

Speaking of people saying shit on the internet they would never do in real life, how are those subpoenas to Kranar coming along? Getting Methais fired? Hiring a lawyer and suing people over hurt feelings? I need details.

[Androidpk]

I mean pretty much everyone on the PC knows the "tacos" poll unwritten rule. You're just trying to be a hipster with it.

Stop being a hipster. No one likes them. Or you.

If it will really make you feel better though, I'll vote in your poll. Perhaps you'd also like cup of warm cocoa after to go with your PB&J with the crust cut off?

Would you like me to vote in your little poll?

oh did I violate one of methais' PC rules? quelle horreur!

[Androidpk]

Fuckin' Tacos.

Bacon tacos.

[Methais]

oh did I violate one of methais' PC rules? quelle horreur!

Do you want me to vote in your little poll that you've been upset all day over me not voting on or not?

[Tisket]

What unimaginative poll options.

[Methais]

What unimaginative poll options.

Consider the source.

[Androidpk]

What unimaginative poll options.

Probably, but at the end of the day it's a simple yes or no outcome. Either Mueller will or he won't and I suspect we'll be finding out the answer to that sometime in the next 4 weeks.

[kutter]

I am curious what people think he did to obstruct justice, fire Comey? Comey works for him and serves at his pleasure, think about the can of worms that would open if a chief executive cannot fire someone that serves at the pleasure. People would be stuck with whoever got appointed previously, irregardless of who appointed them. On the flip side for you more liberal of mindset, think if Trump appoints Trey Gowdy AG and the next democrat elected could not replace him.

[Tgo01]

I am curious what people think he did to obstruct justice, fire Comey? Comey works for him and serves at his pleasure, think about the can of worms that would open if a chief executive cannot fire someone that serves at the pleasure. People would be stuck with whoever got appointed previously, irregardless of who appointed them. On the flip side for you more liberal of mindset, think if Trump appoints Trey Gowdy AG and the next democrat elected could not replace him.

Don't be absurd. It's only illegal if Republicans do it.

[SHAFT]

I am curious what people think he did to obstruct justice, fire Comey? Comey works for him and serves at his pleasure, think about the can of worms that would open if a chief executive cannot fire someone that serves at the pleasure. People would be stuck with whoever got appointed previously, irregardless of who appointed them. On the flip side for you more liberal of mindset, think if Trump appoints Trey Gowdy AG and the next democrat elected could not replace him.

You can't go on TV and say you fired the guy because of "This Rusher thing, this Trump-Russia thing". That's 1 example.

[Neveragain]

I am curious what people think he did to obstruct justice, fire Comey? Comey works for him and serves at his pleasure, think about the can of worms that would open if a chief executive cannot fire someone that serves at the pleasure. People would be stuck with whoever got appointed previously, irregardless of who appointed them. On the flip side for you more liberal of mindset, think if Trump appoints Trey Gowdy AG and the next democrat elected could not replace him.

Don't even try to explain, dude thinks Russians are arming Americans now.

[Androidpk]

I am curious what people think he did to obstruct justice, fire Comey? Comey works for him and serves at his pleasure, think about the can of worms that would open if a chief executive cannot fire someone that serves at the pleasure. People would be stuck with whoever got appointed previously, irregardless of who appointed them. On the flip side for you more liberal of mindset, think if Trump appoints Trey Gowdy AG and the next democrat elected could not replace him.

That's one of the reasons. Yes, the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the POTUS and can be fired at any time. Why did he fire Comey though? Because he asked the then FBI director to drop things with Flynn, even though he knew Flynn was under a criminal investigation. That is obstruction. Asking Sessions not to recuse himself was obstruction. Trying to fire Mueller was obstruction. Telling Sessions to end special counsel investigation was obstruction.

I've long said that firing Comey was about the worst things Trump could have done and that his tweets were going to do him in.

[Androidpk]

Don't even try to explain, dude thinks Russians are arming Americans now.

I never said that.

[kutter]

That's one of the reasons. Yes, the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the POTUS and can be fired at any time. Why did he fire Comey though? Because he asked the then FBI director to drop things with Flynn, even though he knew Flynn was under a criminal investigation. That is obstruction. Asking Sessions not to recuse himself was obstruction. Trying to fire Mueller was obstruction. Telling Sessions to end special counsel investigation was obstruction.

I've long said that firing Comey was about the worst things Trump could have done and that his tweets were going to do him in.

How is it obstruction of justice, when every single person you just cited works for him and he can fire them without cause, whenever he wants? And Sessions should never have recused himself and Rosenstein should recuse himself. The DOJ has some very serious issues that need to be addressed or what little faith in the system that remains will be lost, forever.

[Androidpk]

How is it obstruction of justice, when every single person you just cited works for him and he can fire them without cause, whenever he wants? And Sessions should never have recused himself and Rosenstein should recuse himself. The DOJ has some very serious issues that need to be addressed or what little faith in the system that remains will be lost, forever.

Firing Comey to try and end the FBI investigation is obstruction of justice. SCOTUS has ruled that the president is not above the law. Now unless you have something to suggest that all these former FBI officials, attorney generals, prosecutors, and lawyers are wrong about Trump's obstructions I'd be happy to hear you out.

[SHAFT]

And Sessions should never have recused himself and Rosenstein should recuse himself.

Huh? Sessions was a part of the campaign, and he lied about his contacts. Sessions has come out multiple times and said he had to recuse.

How can you lead an investigation into a campaign that you were a part of?

[Tgo01]

Firing Comey to try and end the FBI investigation is obstruction of justice. SCOTUS has ruled that the president is not above the law. Now unless you have something to suggest that all these former FBI officials, attorney generals, prosecutors, and lawyers are wrong about Trump's obstructions I'd be happy to hear you out.

Now we just need to prove that Trump fired Comey to end the FBI investigation, because as we all know the FBI is run by 2 dudes in a garage so if one of them gets fired the other guy can't possibly keep up with all of the investigations.

[cwolff]

How is it obstruction of justice, when every single person you just cited works for him and he can fire them without cause, whenever he wants? And Sessions should never have recused himself and Rosenstein should recuse himself. The DOJ has some very serious issues that need to be addressed or what little faith in the system that remains will be lost, forever.


Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions insists his recusal from any investigation into Russian collusion in last year’s election was simple: It’s the law.

In an opening statement before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday, Sessions cited a Department of Justice regulation that he said mandated him stepping aside.
The regulation, 28 CFR 45.2, notes that a Justice Department employee shall not participate in a “criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with … an elected official, a candidate (whether or not successful) for elective, public office, a political party, or a campaign organization.”


“I recused myself not because of any asserted wrongdoing on my part during the campaign,” Sessions said. “But because a Department of Justice regulation, 28 CFR 45.2, required it.”
“That regulation states, in effect, that department employees should not participate in investigations of a campaign if they have served as a campaign advisor,” said Sessions.
Throughout much of the 2016 election, Sessions served as a senior advisor to Trump’s campaign.


It's no mystery why Sessions recused himself. He told you himself why he did it. Trump encouraging him to un-recuse, threatening to fire him over it and even now telling him he should kill the investigation from which he's recused is all adding up to obstruction.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-sessions-cites-department-of-justice-1497381828-htmlstory.html

[Androidpk]

Now we just need to prove that Trump fired Comey to end the FBI investigation, because as we all know the FBI is run by 2 dudes in a garage so if one of them gets fired the other guy can't possibly keep up with all of the investigations.

Is that you, Rudy Giuliani?

[SHAFT]

I don't think Tgo knows about the Lester Holt interview and the meeting with the Russians in the Oval Office.

[kutter]

It's no mystery why Sessions recused himself. He told you himself why he did it. Trump encouraging him to un-recuse, threatening to fire him over it and even now telling him he should kill the investigation from which he's recused is all adding up to obstruction.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-sessions-cites-department-of-justice-1497381828-htmlstory.html

And exactly what crime was Trump accused of committing during the election? Sessions recused himself because he is a gutless turd and did not want the scrutiny, why Trump ever appointed him to be the AG is beyond me, he needed a pitbull and he got a yorkie.

[Tgo01]

I don't think Tgo knows about the Lester Holt interview and the meeting with the Russians in the Oval Office.

Enlighten me.

[SHAFT]

Enlighten me.

That's not possible. Google is still feel to all.

[Androidpk]

Tgo said he does his own research too.. :lol:

[SHAFT]

And exactly what crime was Trump accused of committing during the election? Sessions recused himself because he is a gutless turd and did not want the scrutiny, why Trump ever appointed him to be the AG is beyond me, he needed a pitbull and he got a yorkie.

He wasn't accused of a crime. Thanks to George Papadopoulos though, there was an active FBI investigation into whether the Trump campaign conspired with Russians.

Trump, by firing Comey, kickstarted the Mueller investigation.

Trump is so stupid he thought it would all go away if Comey was gone. He said so to the Russians in the Oval Office, just hours after firing Comey.

[Tgo01]

That's not possible. Google is still feel to all.

TWO WORDS! You can't even handle two words. I'm not sure what to do with you anymore, Shaft :(

[Tgo01]

Tgo said he does his own research too.. :lol:

You guys are funny.

You guys: Trump obstructed justice when he fired Comey to end the FBI investigation!!11
Me: Prove Trump fired Comey to end the FBI investigation.
You guys: LOL! I'm not gonna prove my claim for you! That's your job!!1

[SHAFT]

TWO WORDS! You can't even handle two words. I'm not sure what to do with you anymore, Shaft :(

Come on man, this shit is easy. Trump told Lester Holt he did because of the Trump-Russia thing and then he told the Russians that by firing Comey that the pressure was off.

They put out the BS explanation that Comey was too mean to Hillary, then days later he tells Lester Holt it was because of Russia thing.

Not sure what else you want. I'm sure you'll try to vortex it, but I'm not sure what else to say about it.

[Androidpk]

We already answered this multiple times. In this thread, the Russian thread, and the Comey thread.

[kutter]

He wasn't accused of a crime. Thanks to George Papadopoulos though, there was an active FBI investigation into whether the Trump campaign conspired with Russians.

Trump, by firing Comey, kickstarted the Mueller investigation.

Trump is so stupid he thought it would all go away if Comey was gone. He said so to the Russians in the Oval Office, just hours after firing Comey.

So if he was not accused of a crime, why would Sessions need to recuse himself, there would be no criminal investigation. Had Sessions not recused himself then no special prosecutor would have ever been appointed and we would not be having this conversation.

[Androidpk]

Not sure what else you want. I'm sure you'll try to vortex it, but I'm not sure what else to say about it.

Trolls gonna troll

[cwolff]

And exactly what crime was Trump accused of committing during the election? Sessions recused himself because he is a gutless turd and did not want the scrutiny, why Trump ever appointed him to be the AG is beyond me, he needed a pitbull and he got a yorkie.

Oh man. This is horrible. You make no sense. I see you're regurgitating the pitbull talk though so you do make a good amplifier for trumps propaganda.

What crime was he accused of? As far as I know, he's not been accused of any crimes. He's not a defendant and hasn't been indicted so your point about "during the election" is cheap misdirection.

Why do you care if Sessions recused or not? Rosenstein was appointed by trump just like Sessions. lMueller was praised by all the GOP when he was appointed Special Counsel also. Don't you remember that? It was just in May of 2017.

[SHAFT]

So if he was not accused of a crime, why would Sessions need to recuse himself, there would be no criminal investigation. Had Sessions not recused himself then no special prosecutor would have ever been appointed and we would not be having this conversation.

Sessions was a part of the campaign. Sessions met with Russians.

How could he ethically have oversight of the investigation? Sessions, amazingly, did the right thing.

Yes, this was another fuck up by Trump. He should have never appointed someone that was a part of his campaign.

Trump should've picked Scott Pruitt, who was as corrupt and dirty as himself.

[Androidpk]

So if he was not accused of a crime, why would Sessions need to recuse himself, there would be no criminal investigation. Had Sessions not recused himself then no special prosecutor would have ever been appointed and we would not be having this conversation.

The FBI were investigating before Comey was fired/Sessions recused.

[Androidpk]

Trump should've picked Scott Pruitt, who was as corrupt and dirty as himself.

He was actually hoping to replace Sessions with Pruitt but Pruitt was so much of a toxic fuck up that he was being hit with scandal after scandal, thus making that idea no longer feasible. :lol:

[kutter]

Oh man. This is horrible. You make no sense. I see you're regurgitating the pitbull talk though so you do make a good amplifier for trumps propaganda.

What crime was he accused of? As far as I know, he's not been accused of any crimes. He's not a defendant and hasn't been indicted so your point about "during the election" is cheap misdirection.

Why do you care if Sessions recused or not? Rosenstein was appointed by trump just like Sessions. lMueller was praised by all the GOP when he was appointed Special Counsel also. Don't you remember that? It was just in May of 2017.

Clearly you are not concerned about the law, only optics. if we are going to investigate people and handling of elections then why wasn't Obama investigated for inserting the US into the Israeli elections? You are worried about appearance, I am worried about the law. No law was broken, so Sesssions should have never recused himself and if he had not, so special prosecutor would have ever been appointed. As for Rosenstein, he looks good on paper, but clearly his loyalty is only to preserving the status quo, hence the reason he is obstructing justice by not providing documentation to Congress which has Constitutionally mandated oversight.

As for Mueller, he is just another cog in the tool that is the DC machine. They are so far removed from law enforcement as to be laughable.

[Androidpk]

I see Kutter is neck deep in the Kool-Aid.

[SHAFT]

No law was broken

The investigation is ongoing. How can you be so certain?

Also, Mueller has multiple guilty pleas. So yes, some laws were broken.

[Tgo01]

Come on man, this shit is easy. Trump told Lester Holt he did because of the Trump-Russia thing and then he told the Russians that by firing Comey that the pressure was off.

This is all I could find:


“I was going to fire Comey knowing, there was no good time to do it. And in fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story, it's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won,” Trump told Holt.

When Holt asked Trump whether he was "angry" with Comey "because of his Russia investigation," the president replied, “I just want somebody that's competent. I am a big fan of the FBI, I love the FBI.”

That's not Trump saying he fired Comey because of this "Trump-Russia thing." In fact he said he was planning on firing Comey and knew there was no good time but when he decided he said the Trump and Russia is a made up story.

Trump also offered up this Tweet:


Not that it matters but I never fired James Comey because of Russia! The Corrupt Mainstream Media loves to keep pushing that narrative, but they know it is not true!

Maybe it's time you started to get your news from organizations that just presents the news and doens't push a narrative.

[cwolff]

Clearly you are not concerned about the law, only optics. if we are going to investigate people and handling of elections then why wasn't Obama investigated for inserting the US into the Israeli elections? You are worried about appearance, I am worried about the law. No law was broken, so Sesssions should have never recused himself and if he had not, so special prosecutor would have ever been appointed. As for Rosenstein, he looks good on paper, but clearly his loyalty is only to preserving the status quo, hence the reason he is obstructing justice by not providing documentation to Congress which has Constitutionally mandated oversight.

As for Mueller, he is just another cog in the tool that is the DC machine. They are so far removed from law enforcement as to be laughable.

What do you mean no law was broken? Mueller hasn't even submitted his report yet. Sessions HAD to recuse himself. That's not hard to understand. You cling to these fucked up talking points as if it's a life raft.

[Androidpk]

This is all I could find:



That's not Trump saying he fired Comey because of this "Trump-Russia thing." In fact he said he was planning on firing Comey and knew there was no good time but when he decided he said the Trump and Russia is a made up story.

Trump also offered up this Tweet:



Maybe it's time you started to get your news from organizations that just presents the news and doens't push a narrative.

Organizations like Fox News?

[Tgo01]

That's not Trump saying he fired Comey because of this "Trump-Russia thing." In fact he said he was planning on firing Comey and knew there was no good time but when he decided he said the Trump and Russia is a made up story.

Expanding on this: it's possible for your actions to not be influenced by something that also angers you. For example if I fired someone because they missed 2 weeks of work but I also didn't like the fact that they called me a meanie head this does not mean I fired them because they called me a meanie head. It's an observation in addition to the reason I fired them.

See this is why I asked you for a quote because I wanted you to find me where Trump said "I fired Comey to end the FBI Russian investigation" and you couldn't produce said quote because it never happened. You have been played, Shaft, but you're all too happy to be played because you hate Trump.

Feel free to ignore my argument and reasonings by referring to them as "the vortex."

[SHAFT]

"I was going to fire Comey knowing, there was no good time to do it. And in fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story,"

Mueller will decide if this is exhibit A in his investigation into whether Trump obstructed justice.

There are many exhibits and witnesses.

[Androidpk]

Vortex, spinning, deflecting, trolling, etc. He's not wrong.

[Neveragain]

Vortex, spinning, deflecting, trolling, etc. He's not wrong.

I would maybe take you seriously if you were calling for Bernie Sanders to step down.

[Androidpk]

Your obsession with Sanders is noted.

[Parkbandit]

That's one of the reasons. Yes, the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the POTUS and can be fired at any time. Why did he fire Comey though? Because he asked the then FBI director to drop things with Flynn, even though he knew Flynn was under a criminal investigation. That is obstruction. Asking Sessions not to recuse himself was obstruction. Trying to fire Mueller was obstruction. Telling Sessions to end special counsel investigation was obstruction.

I've long said that firing Comey was about the worst things Trump could have done and that his tweets were going to do him in.

So.. you STILL don't understand the phrase "serves at the pleasure"...

Doesn't matter at all WHY he fired Comey.

At all.

[Parkbandit]

"I was going to fire Comey knowing, there was no good time to do it. And in fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story,"

Mueller will decide if this is exhibit A in his investigation into whether Trump obstructed justice.

There are many exhibits and witnesses.

Might want to watch the whole interview.. instead of just cherry picking.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=5Wvuw_Zmubg

So.. do you believe Rosenstein was trying to give President Trump cover by recommending that Comey be fired?

You being used... but you play the ignorant fool extremely well.

[Androidpk]

So.. you STILL don't understand the phrase "serves at the pleasure"...

Doesn't matter at all WHY he fired Comey.

At all.

:lol:

I'll put you down as a no.

[Parkbandit]

:lol:

I'll put you down as a no.

I'll put you down as a creepy little piece of shit.

We good?

[Neveragain]

Your obsession with Sanders is noted.

No, I'm just looking for consistency from the crybabies. That and I like to point out how fucking terrible the field of probable Democrat candidates are for 2020.

As of right now Rand Paul will have no problem with any democrat candidate.

[Methais]

What do you mean no law was broken? Mueller hasn't even submitted his report yet. Sessions HAD to recuse himself. That's not hard to understand. You cling to these fucked up talking points as if it's a life raft.


"How do you know no laws were broken when Mueller hasn't submitted his report yet? Btw Trump is guilty of everything!!!!!!!"

^soywolff logic

[Methais]

Vortex, spinning, deflecting, trolling, etc. He's not wrong.


I would maybe take you seriously if you were calling for Bernie Sanders to step down.


Your obsession with Sanders is noted.

Look how stupid you are. :lol:

[Androidpk]

I'll put you down as a creepy little piece of shit.

We good?

Okay, pedo

[Methais]

Okay, pedo

Okay, pedo

[Androidpk]

Okay, pedo

okay, nazi

[Astray]

Okay, pedo

Y'know when you say stuff like that, you don't dispel any of the opinions leveled against you, right?

[Androidpk]

Y'know when you say stuff like that, you don't dispel any of the opinions leveled against you, right?

tell that to your buds

[Methais]

okay, nazi

okay, nazi

[Parkbandit]

Y'know when you say stuff like that, you don't dispel any of the opinions leveled against you, right?

After 13 years of evidence.. I don't think they are considered opinions anymore.

Solid fact: Androidpk is a piece of shit.

Now someone find that fucking loser and put a quarter in the cup he's holding out.

[Methais]

After 13 years of evidence.. I don't think they are considered opinions anymore.

Solid fact: Androidpk is a piece of shit.

Now someone find that fucking loser and put a quarter in the cup he's holding out.

https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://media.giphy.com/media/ELDEqBeo7k3tu/giphy.gif

[Androidpk]

After 13 years of evidence.. I don't think they are considered opinions anymore.

Solid fact: Androidpk is a piece of shit.

Now someone find that fucking loser and put a quarter in the cup he's holding out.

PB still butthurt for being outed as a creepy old man who sends dick pics to underage boys. Sick fuck.

[Parkbandit]

PB still butthurt for being outed as a creepy old man who sends dick pics to underage boys. Sick fuck.

I'm upset at your weak ass attempts at insulting me? Not at all. I find your level of stupidity and lack of any discernible skills both laughable and amusing. Add that to you being a complete sociopath with absolutely zero self respect and it's a wonder you haven't been found dead in a ditch somewhere.

Not that anyone would notice or care.

Sorry.

[~Rocktar~]

The investigation is ongoing. How can you be so certain?

Also, Mueller has multiple guilty pleas. So yes, some laws were broken.

Guilty pleas do not equal broken laws. There are plenty of reasons to take a plea even if you didn't break the law. It usually means a law was broken, it is not a guarantee.

[cwolff]

Guilty pleas do not equal broken laws. There are plenty of reasons to take a plea even if you didn't break the law. It usually means a law was broken, it is not a guarantee.

You'll go to great lengths to put some spin on this shit. LOL It's insane to witness but you do it every post.

[~Rocktar~]

You'll go to great lengths to put some spin on this shit. LOL It's insane to witness but you do it every post.

Facts don't care about your feelings. And as to going a long way to put spin in things, dude, you regularly orbit Pluto for some spin so maybe a get a mirror, a clue and a big ole helping of shut the fuck up.

[SHAFT]

You'll go to great lengths to put some spin on this shit. LOL It's insane to witness but you do it every post.

Rocktar and family at the trump rally in Florida a few days ago.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/C9476BB5-257F-40E3-8B3F-EFD0D7377813_zpsqexkkhbz.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/C9476BB5-257F-40E3-8B3F-EFD0D7377813_zpsqexkkhbz.jpeg.html)

[~Rocktar~]

I don't live in Florida and most all my family is dead. Try again loser troll.

[Teveriel]

Whatever her political leanings, that lady has one hell of an impressive war face. She could be a shieldmaiden in an Amon Amarth music video. Or Helga in Gemstone: The Movie.

[SHAFT]

I don't live in Florida and most all my family is dead. Try again loser troll.

Doesn’t prove you weren’t in Florida at that time.

[~Rocktar~]

Doesn’t prove you weren’t in Florida at that time.

Troll harder

[time4fun]

It's pretty clear he attempted to obstruct Justice (and continues to do so) numerous times in numerous ways. In fact, he's been using the Nixon and Clinton playbooks more or less to the letter.

[Wrathbringer]

It's pretty clear he attempted to obstruct Justice (and continues to do so) numerous times in numerous ways. In fact, he's been using the Nixon and Clinton playbooks more or less to the letter.

It's pretty clear you're retarded.

[Methais]

Whatever her political leanings, that lady has one hell of an impressive war face. She could be a shieldmaiden in an Amon Amarth music video. Or Helga in Gemstone: The Movie.

I always pictured Helga like a medieval Large Marge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPMSGTfK4Aw

[Androidpk]

It's pretty clear he attempted to obstruct Justice (and continues to do so) numerous times in numerous ways. In fact, he's been using the Nixon and Clinton playbooks more or less to the letter.

The only question is when Mueller will file his report and what Rosenstein will do with it. I don't think Mueller will wait until after the midterm elections and I don't think Rosenstein is just going to sit on it. Not looking good for Trump. If the House flips in November he'll be impeached. He's hemorrhaging allies left and right and he's got no one to protect him now except Putin.

[Parkbandit]

It's pretty clear he attempted to obstruct Justice (and continues to do so) numerous times in numerous ways. In fact, he's been using the Nixon and Clinton playbooks more or less to the letter.

So, you've given up on collusion and now are concentrating all your hopes and dreams on obstructing?

Baby steps I suppose. In about 18 years.. maybe you'll come to terms with the events of 11/9/16.

[Parkbandit]

The only question is when Mueller will file his report and what Rosenstein will do with it. I don't think Mueller will wait until after the midterm elections and I don't think Rosenstein is just going to sit on it. Not looking good for Trump. If the House flips in November he'll be impeached. He's hemorrhaging allies left and right and he's got no one to protect him now except Putin.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/67/bc/7967bc8514b55e72fc5e6a9f61dc1cb8.gif

[cwolff]

It's pretty clear he attempted to obstruct Justice (and continues to do so) numerous times in numerous ways. In fact, he's been using the Nixon and Clinton playbooks more or less to the letter.

He's done a wonderful job conditioning our country to his obstruction because, no matter what Mueller finds he's done in secret, he does plenty of it right in the open. From asking Russia to hach, and tweeting at Yates before she testified to congress and telling Sessions to end the investigation, he does it right out in the open. He's smart enough to push big lies with gusto and it causes people to ignore the ethical and even criminal aspects of it. He's just crazy Donald being crazy again.


The only question is when Mueller will file his report and what Rosenstein will do with it. I don't think Mueller will wait until after the midterm elections and I don't think Rosenstein is just going to sit on it. Not looking good for Trump. If the House flips in November he'll be impeached. He's hemorrhaging allies left and right and he's got no one to protect him now except Putin.

I hope that Mueller turns in his report when it's ready and doesn't try to play a timing game. No matter when he reports there will be a frenzy to discredit him and the report. It really won't matter if he does it in October or January. Hell, it may not even change any minds whether it's good or bad for trump.

We'll see what happens with trumps deposition. They may be coming to end of the game playing and delays. To borrow a line from Rudy, it's time for trump to put up or shut up. If they do sit down with Mueller in the next few weeks he may be able to wrap up and report. Of course, he could also have other investigations going on which aren't in the news which could also delay his final report.

[Methais]

He's done a wonderful job conditioning our country to his obstruction because, no matter what Mueller finds he's done in secret, he does plenty of it right in the open. From asking Russia to hach, and tweeting at Yates before she testified to congress and telling Sessions to end the investigation, he does it right out in the open. He's smart enough to push big lies with gusto and it causes people to ignore the ethical and even criminal aspects of it. He's just crazy Donald being crazy again.



I hope that Mueller turns in his report when it's ready and doesn't try to play a timing game. No matter when he reports there will be a frenzy to discredit him and the report. It really won't matter if he does it in October or January. Hell, it may not even change any minds whether it's good or bad for trump.

We'll see what happens with trumps deposition. They may be coming to end of the game playing and delays. To borrow a line from Rudy, it's time for trump to put up or shut up. If they do sit down with Mueller in the next few weeks he may be able to wrap up and report. Of course, he could also have other investigations going on which aren't in the news which could also delay his final report.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BCfN7B0ugU

[Androidpk]

President Trump reportedly fears that his son Donald Trump Jr. may have inadvertently gotten himself into legal trouble.

The Washington Post reported Saturday that Trump has told advisers and close confidantes he doesn’t believe his son knowingly broke any law, but said Trump Jr. could have unwittingly crossed a legal line.

Special counsel Robert Mueller is examining Trump Jr. for his role in arranging a June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower between a Russian lawyer and Trump campaign officials, including himself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0GCKXZTV8E

[cwolff]

President Trump reportedly fears that his son Donald Trump Jr. may have inadvertently gotten himself into legal trouble.

The Washington Post reported Saturday that Trump has told advisers and close confidantes he doesn’t believe his son knowingly broke any law, but said Trump Jr. could have unwittingly crossed a legal line.

Special counsel Robert Mueller is examining Trump Jr. for his role in arranging a June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower between a Russian lawyer and Trump campaign officials, including himself.


I saw that article next to this one: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/400413-trump-believes-mueller-is-using-manafort-trial-to-embarrass-him


President Trump has reportedly been privately venting about the trial of his former campaign head Paul Manafort, believing that it is an attempt by special counsel Robert Mueller
to embarrass him.

The Washington Post reported Saturday that Trump thinks both the media and Mueller are using this week's trial on Manafort's bank and tax fraud charges to try to undercut his presidency.
“He is completely outraged by the way Manafort has been treated, with the solitary confinement and all of that,” Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani told The Post. “It’s obvious to him that they’re all but torturing Manafort in order to try to get him to flip.”

I'm sure he'll pardon them both if it comes down to convictions. At that point I imagine all hell will break loose politically.

[Neveragain]

The Washington Post reported Saturday that Trump has told advisers and close confidantes he doesn’t believe his son knowingly broke any law, but said Trump Jr. could have unwittingly crossed a legal line.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/296f9815e3bfd07a366832e16854b995/tenor.gif?itemid=4596954

[Neveragain]

I saw that article next to this one: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/400413-trump-believes-mueller-is-using-manafort-trial-to-embarrass-him



I'm sure he'll pardon them both if it comes down to convictions. At that point I imagine all hell will break loose politically.

When the media uses the word "reportedly" in any article:

https://i.imgur.com/YxhCJAR.jpg

[cwolff]

Trump responded to WaPo article about Don Jr. today. He appears to be defending his son but he also threw him square under the bus by copping to the fact that Don met with the Russian agents to get opposition research on HRC.

[Astray]

I will admit that tweet is downplaying an issue but I don't see anything particularly problematic. As a Candidate it makes sense to meet with people in the effort of gaining unsavory information on your opponents. The claim that it went nowhere is pretty much the outcome you'd expect if the person you're meeting with doesn't believe you'd win.

That informant is probably regretting the decision, if they had any valid information. Did I just debunk the Russian Connection? https://i.imgur.com/CkaO8ir.gif

[Tgo01]

I will admit that tweet is downplaying an issue but I don't see anything particularly problematic. As a Candidate it makes sense to meet with people in the effort of gaining unsavory information on your opponents. The claim that it went nowhere is pretty much the outcome you'd expect if the person you're meeting with doesn't believe you'd win.

That informant is probably regretting the decision, if they had any valid information. Did I just debunk the Russian Connection? https://i.imgur.com/CkaO8ir.gif

You said Russian connection! This proves Russian collusion!

[Methais]

You said Russian connection! This proves Russian collusion!

WHAT ABOUT THE CANADIAN COLLUSION NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT???

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5PsV-8gplow/Usgvouv9iAI/AAAAAAACFGU/7j6ChHGK5nU/s640/1-4-2014+10-57-53+AM.jpg

What more proof do you need?

[Astray]

Those GODDAMN Canadians!

[Androidpk]

I will admit that tweet is downplaying an issue but I don't see anything particularly problematic. As a Candidate it makes sense to meet with people in the effort of gaining unsavory information on your opponents. The claim that it went nowhere is pretty much the outcome you'd expect if the person you're meeting with doesn't believe you'd win.

That informant is probably regretting the decision, if they had any valid information. Did I just debunk the Russian Connection? https://i.imgur.com/CkaO8ir.gif

You didn't debunk shit.

[~Rocktar~]

You didn't debunk shit.

Just as you have not proven shit. Funny how that works.

[Androidpk]

Just as you have not proven shit. Funny how that works.

I don't have to, Mueller is doing a fantastic job.

[SHAFT]

I will admit that tweet is downplaying an issue but I don't see anything particularly problematic.

It's illegal to accept anything of value from a foreign government to benefit a campaign.

Jr and Kushner both knew they were meeting with Russians to potentially get dirt on Clinton.

May not be problematic to you, but could be for JR and Kushner.

Also, if this Trump Tower meeting was no big deal, why'd the Trump team lie about it multiple times?

Another example of Trump obstructing justice, as well.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/170711140935-donald-trump-jr-rob-goldstone-emails-t1-exlarge-169_zpshrfxxfop.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/170711140935-donald-trump-jr-rob-goldstone-emails-t1-exlarge-169_zpshrfxxfop.jpg.html)

[Androidpk]

Hope Hicks flying in AF1 was witness tampering by Trump.

[Neveragain]

It's illegal to accept anything of value from a foreign government to benefit a campaign.

Jr and Kushner both knew they were meeting with Russians to potentially get dirt on Clinton.

May not be problematic to you, but could be for JR and Kushner.

Also, if this Trump Tower meeting was no big deal, why'd the Trump team lie about it multiple times?

Another example of Trump obstructing justice, as well.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/170711140935-donald-trump-jr-rob-goldstone-emails-t1-exlarge-169_zpshrfxxfop.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/170711140935-donald-trump-jr-rob-goldstone-emails-t1-exlarge-169_zpshrfxxfop.jpg.html)

Um..it says right there that Hillary had dealings with Russia.

[SHAFT]

Um..it says right there that Hillary had dealings with Russia.

Maybe she did, maybe she didn't.

Doesn't change the fortunes of JR and Kushner, though.

[Astray]

You didn't debunk shit.

That were the joke.


Maybe she did, maybe she didn't.

She's the reason I said "anything particularly problematic".

[cwolff]

Hope Hicks flying in AF1 was witness tampering by Trump.

Ya, that was some weird shit. I wonder what their plan there is. She was obviously and publicly boarding the plane so they didn't try to hide it. Maybe they wanted it to get out that she was on the flight. Also, since trump isn't a "subject" of this investigation they could be using that to let him talk to her all he wants. Whatever they are doing is a bit of a gamble and it's pretty bold.


Um..it says right there that Hillary had dealings with Russia.

We're used to the trump crew automatically bringing up HRC or Obama whenever something negative comes about trump, but I still wonder why? Does it prove trumps innocence?

Here's an idea. If you want to dish on HRC, then do that. Make a post to complain about the injustice of her escaping justice. If you want to defend trump then do that. Shit talking Hillary because someone else posts about trump is just being a dick.

Not to mention that in this case, there's nothing about Hillary. Even if they used the promise of it to lure Don Jr. what are you going to claim? That Russia entrapped Don Jr. with the promise of emails they didn't produce? You don't have a leg to stand on here and it makes no sense to go to such lengths to defend Don Jr.

[Androidpk]

Bringing up Hillary is the troll's pathetic way of deflecting from reality.

[Neveragain]

Ya, that was some weird shit. I wonder what their plan there is. She was obviously and publicly boarding the plane so they didn't try to hide it. Maybe they wanted it to get out that she was on the flight. Also, since trump isn't a "subject" of this investigation they could be using that to let him talk to her all he wants. Whatever they are doing is a bit of a gamble and it's pretty bold.



We're used to the trump crew automatically bringing up HRC or Obama whenever something negative comes about trump, but I still wonder why? Does it prove trumps innocence?

Here's an idea. If you want to dish on HRC, then do that. Make a post to complain about the injustice of her escaping justice. If you want to defend trump then do that. Shit talking Hillary because someone else posts about trump is just being a dick.

Not to mention that in this case, there's nothing about Hillary. Even if they used the promise of it to lure Don Jr. what are you going to claim? That Russia entrapped Don Jr. with the promise of emails they didn't produce? You don't have a leg to stand on here and it makes no sense to go to such lengths to defend Don Jr.

Great lengths, I'm actually kind of tired from trying so hard.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/896/341/714.gif

[Methais]

It's illegal to accept anything of value from a foreign government to benefit a campaign.

Jr and Kushner both knew they were meeting with Russians to potentially get dirt on Clinton.

May not be problematic to you, but could be for JR and Kushner.

Also, if this Trump Tower meeting was no big deal, why'd the Trump team lie about it multiple times?

Another example of Trump obstructing justice, as well.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/170711140935-donald-trump-jr-rob-goldstone-emails-t1-exlarge-169_zpshrfxxfop.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/170711140935-donald-trump-jr-rob-goldstone-emails-t1-exlarge-169_zpshrfxxfop.jpg.html)

If the dirt they supposedly got on Hillary ended up being useless, does it still have value?

[Neveragain]

Bringing up Hillary is the troll's pathetic way of deflecting from reality.

The reality that Bernie colluded with russians, took illegal campaign donations and that Bernie supporters hacked Clintons voter info?

[Methais]

We're used to the trump crew automatically bringing up HRC or Obama whenever something negative comes about trump, but I still wonder why? Does it prove trumps innocence?

It points out how the law only applies to some people but not others. Not that you'll ever be capable of pulling your head out of your ass long enough to understand such a simple concept.

[Methais]

Bringing up Hillary is the troll's pathetic way of deflecting from reality.

You're a (weak as fuck) troll and are constantly deflecting everything.

Irony.

[cwolff]

Donald Trump's campaign is still soliciting illegal donations from foreign individuals — including members of foreign governments at their official email addresses — weeks after the campaign was put on notice by watchdog groups.
Foreign members of parliament from the United Kingdom and Australia confirmed to The Hill that they received fundraising solicitations from the Trump campaign as recently as July 12 — two weeks after a widely publicized Federal Election Commission (FEC) complaint issued on June 29 by nonpartisan watchdogs Democracy 21 and the Campaign Legal Center.

This is from an article in The Hill July 16, 2016 (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/288031-trump-campaign-solicits-illegal-foreign-donations-despite-warnings). This article from July 2017 (https://www.justsecurity.org/43498/president-trumps-unsurprising-endorsement-illegal-solicitation-his-2016-campaign-repeatedly-violated-ban-soliciting-foreign-donations/) discusses it also.


I've never heard of any resolution about this. Was it investigated and found to be no problem, slipped the cracks or what?

[Methais]

This is from an article in The Hill July 16, 2016 (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/288031-trump-campaign-solicits-illegal-foreign-donations-despite-warnings). This article from July 2017 (https://www.justsecurity.org/43498/president-trumps-unsurprising-endorsement-illegal-solicitation-his-2016-campaign-repeatedly-violated-ban-soliciting-foreign-donations/) discusses it also.


I've never heard of any resolution about this. Was it investigated and found to be no problem, slipped the cracks or what?

It was investigated and found to be that you're retarded.

[Astray]

Was it investigated and found to be no problem, slipped the cracks or what?

https://i.imgur.com/ZUJMHmZ.jpg

[SHAFT]

If the dirt they supposedly got on Hillary ended up being useless, does it still have value?

If you and I plan to rob a bank, we enter the bank and yell “this is a robbery”, then we go into the vault but all they have are pennies and we leave with nothing, is that a crime?

We also don’t know what was said or if JR/Kushner did receive anything of value from the meeting.

We’ve seen the notes from manaforts Phone and shortly after this meeting, trump promised damaging info on Clinton at a rally. Who knows?

[Androidpk]

If you and I plan to rob a bank, we enter the bank and yell “this is a robbery”, then we go into the vault but all they have are pennies and we leave with nothing, is that a crime?

We also don’t know what was said or if JR/Kushner did receive anything of value from the meeting.

We’ve seen the notes from manaforts Phone and shortly after this meeting, trump promised damaging info on Clinton at a rally. Who knows?


Mueller knows.

[Neveragain]

This really struck me emotionally, I really do hope that you all read this in it's entirety.


Bags of cash delivered to a Rome hotel for favored Italian candidates. Scandalous stories leaked to foreign newspapers to swing an election in Nicaragua. Millions of pamphlets, posters and stickers printed to defeat an incumbent in Serbia.

The long arm of Vladimir Putin? No, just a small sample of the United States’ history of intervention in foreign elections.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/sunday-review/russia-isnt-the-only-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keXx0zxTarE

[Tgo01]

This is from an article in The Hill July 16, 2016 (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/288031-trump-campaign-solicits-illegal-foreign-donations-despite-warnings). This article from July 2017 (https://www.justsecurity.org/43498/president-trumps-unsurprising-endorsement-illegal-solicitation-his-2016-campaign-repeatedly-violated-ban-soliciting-foreign-donations/) discusses it also.


I've never heard of any resolution about this. Was it investigated and found to be no problem, slipped the cracks or what?

Yeah I'm sure it "slipped the cracks."

Just wow.

[Methais]

If you and I plan to rob a bank, we enter the bank and yell “this is a robbery”, then we go into the vault but all they have are pennies and we leave with nothing, is that a crime?

Only if we don't clean up or apologize to the people in the front for scaring them, especially if people shit themselves.

[SHAFT]

Just as you have not proven shit. Funny how that works.

Your Führer provided some evidence earlier today. Nothing like admitting collusion with Russians on twitter...

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/7EA9BB34-40E9-4CA1-B854-6F651C2B1628_zpslmi2bc2v.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/7EA9BB34-40E9-4CA1-B854-6F651C2B1628_zpslmi2bc2v.jpeg.html)

[Tgo01]

If you and I plan to rob a bank, we enter the bank and yell “this is a robbery”, then we go into the vault but all they have are pennies and we leave with nothing, is that a crime?

The only problem with your analogy is "colluding" isn't a crime and speaking with representatives of a foreign government isn't illegal. The only crime you are talking about is literally if the campaign received something of value. To my knowledge a case hasn't even been successfully tried against someone where words were considered value.

[Methais]

The only problem with your analogy is "colluding" isn't a crime and speaking with representatives of a foreign government isn't illegal. The only crime you are talking about is literally if the campaign received something of value. To my knowledge a case hasn't even been successfully tried against someone where words were considered value.

You say that, but just wait until a GM slips up and tells us one of GS's top secret formulas!

[Neveragain]

Your Führer provided some evidence earlier today. Nothing like admitting collusion with Russians on twitter...

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/7EA9BB34-40E9-4CA1-B854-6F651C2B1628_zpslmi2bc2v.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/7EA9BB34-40E9-4CA1-B854-6F651C2B1628_zpslmi2bc2v.jpeg.html)

What meeting is he referring to?

[SHAFT]

The only problem with your analogy is "colluding" isn't a crime and speaking with representatives of a foreign government isn't illegal. The only crime you are talking about is literally if the campaign received something of value. To my knowledge a case hasn't even been successfully tried against someone where words were considered value.

If collusion isn’t a big deal, why’d they lie about it?

Also, collusion isn’t a big deal, why does trump accuse others of it?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/017FC5B9-0DAB-4EF8-B61E-6C9C1AB2B8B6_zpsnjq77kj6.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/017FC5B9-0DAB-4EF8-B61E-6C9C1AB2B8B6_zpsnjq77kj6.jpeg.html)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/B4556AEC-7F34-4E5D-88CE-A06875ED80BB_zpssuxtou49.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/B4556AEC-7F34-4E5D-88CE-A06875ED80BB_zpssuxtou49.jpeg.html)

[cwolff]

The only problem with your analogy is "colluding" isn't a crime and speaking with representatives of a foreign government isn't illegal. The only crime you are talking about is literally if the campaign received something of value. To my knowledge a case hasn't even been successfully tried against someone where words were considered value.

Conspiring with a foreign government to get opposition research on your political opponent is a crime.

As for "value", who determines if it's valuable or not? This guy says the Russian spy gave Don Jr. a folder during the meeting:


However, the former intelligence officer, Rinat Akhmetshin, offered a different version of events, describing how Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya handed a plastic folder to the Trump team after the group had gathered in a room in Trump Tower in Manhattan.

The documents inside apparently detailed what the lawyer believed to be an illicit flow of funds to the Democratic National Committee.
"This could be a good issue to expose how the DNC is accepting bad money,' Akhmetshin recalled her saying," according to the Associated Press report.

And this is what she said about the meeting.


When asked why Trump Jr. might have expected that she could provide such information, Veselnitskaya ascribed it to wishful thinking.
"It is quite possible that maybe they were longing for such an information," she said.
"They wanted it so badly that they could only hear the thought that they wanted."
She said Trump Jr. asked just one question during their meeting, probing for evidence the Democratic National Committee was accepting illegal or embarrassing contributions.
"The question that I was asked was as follows: whether I had any financial records which might prove that the funds used to sponsor the DNC were coming from inappropriate sources," the lawyer said.


By all accounts Don Jr. went to the meeting to get dirt on the DNC from the Russians. That's not disputed. Is the question now whether or not he got anything or anything good enough to use?

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-07-11/russian-lawyer-says-trump-campaign-came-to-her-seeking-info-on-hillary-clinton

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-07-14/report-documents-were-exchanged-in-donald-trump-jrs-russia-meeting

[Wrathbringer]

Only if we don't clean up or apologize to the people in the front for scaring them, especially if people shit themselves.

lol

[cwolff]

How many times do we have to discuss "Collusion is not a crime"? We've all agreed to that for a long time.

[Methais]

Conspiring with a foreign government to get opposition research on your political opponent is a crime.

As for "value", who determines if it's valuable or not? This guy says the Russian spy gave Don Jr. a folder during the meeting:



And this is what she said about the meeting.




That soywolff sure is retarded.

https://www.soynews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-07-11/russian-lawyer-says-soywolff-campaign-came-to-her-seeking-ointment-for-hillary-butthurt
(http://i.magaimg.net/img/9x5.png)

https://www.soynews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-07-14/report-documents-were-exchanged-in-soywolff--jrs-butthurt-meeting (http://i.magaimg.net/img/9x5.png)

I agree with what she said about the meeting.

[Tgo01]

If collusion isn’t a big deal, why’d they lie about it?

Also, collusion isn’t a big deal, why does trump accuse others of it?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/017FC5B9-0DAB-4EF8-B61E-6C9C1AB2B8B6_zpsnjq77kj6.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/017FC5B9-0DAB-4EF8-B61E-6C9C1AB2B8B6_zpsnjq77kj6.jpeg.html)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/B4556AEC-7F34-4E5D-88CE-A06875ED80BB_zpssuxtou49.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/B4556AEC-7F34-4E5D-88CE-A06875ED80BB_zpssuxtou49.jpeg.html)

I said collusion isn’t a crime. Whether or not it’s a big deal is up to voters.

[Tgo01]

Conspiring with a foreign government to get opposition research on your political opponent is a crime.

Which crime specifically are you referring to?


As for "value", who determines if it's valuable or not?

The courts.

[SHAFT]

I said collusion isn’t a crime. Whether or not it’s a big deal is up to voters.

Any thoughts on the lies and hypocrisy from Trump and Co?

Here’s one of JR’s greatest hits:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/34DDEA60-4718-4D42-9F1E-817DB9DCF95D_zps4gp86bgz.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/34DDEA60-4718-4D42-9F1E-817DB9DCF95D_zps4gp86bgz.jpeg.html)

[Androidpk]

The ever evolving stance of the die hard Trump supporters.

"They never met with any Russians!"

"Okay they met with Russians but it was about adoptions, no collusion!"

"Okay they met with Russians to collude but collusion isn't a crime!"

"Hillary colluded with the Russians, arrest Hillary!"

"We knew Trump committed crimes, we were just trolling you guys and you fell for it!"

[cwolff]

Which crime specifically are you referring to?



The courts.

We'll find out if/when Jr. is indicted and if/when this thing goes before a court. As a lay person you can see a number of possible crimes commited by Don Jr. and his Dad. Of course there's the campaign/FEC law about soliciting or receiving something of value which has already been pointed out many many times here. Even today that was posted here. Then there is the cover up. Corallo says Hope Hicks told Trump that the emails will never be found. Don Jr. also testified under oath that his Dad didn't know about the meeting but Cohen says he did. Guiliani's been inconsistent in his defense also.


To make a long story short: I don't know what crimes if any have been committed. The jury's out on that so to speak.

Here's a good article about the whole thing. It doesn't indict or exonerate trump and his people. It's worth a read. One quote stood out to me and it's about the difference between a smoking gun and white collar crime. Something to keep in mind as we hash out exactly when or how a crime may have been committed.



“Don’t think of crimes as something committed at a specific time and date,” Mariotti said. “Typically a white-collar crime is something that happens over a long period of time and it involves many different steps.”

http://fortune.com/2018/07/28/trump-donald-jr-russia-meeting/

[cwolff]

The ever evolving stance of the die hard Trump supporters.

"They never met with any Russians!"

"Okay they met with Russians but it was about adoptions, no collusion!"

"Okay they met with Russians to collude but collusion isn't a crime!"

"Hillary colluded with the Russians, arrest Hillary!"

"We knew Trump committed crimes, we were just trolling you guys and you fell for it!"

That's spot on. It's a religious argument like the "god of the gaps" theory. As we fill in the gaps they keep shrinking their defense to avoid dealing with the new evidence. This is why logic and reason aren't entering into this. The trump phenomenon is more faith based than factual.

[Tgo01]

The ever evolving stance of the die hard Trump supporters.

"They never met with any Russians!"

"Okay they met with Russians but it was about adoptions, no collusion!"

"Okay they met with Russians to collude but collusion isn't a crime!"

"Hillary colluded with the Russians, arrest Hillary!"

"We knew Trump committed crimes, we were just trolling you guys and you fell for it!"

Pretty sure for the most part people from the very beginning said who gives a shit if they met with Russians. But all you have left is your spin.

[Androidpk]

Pretty sure for the most part people from the very beginning said who gives a shit if they met with Russians. But all you have left is your spin.

False, nice try though.

[Neveragain]

To make a long story short: I don't know what crimes if any have been committed.

https://i0.wp.com/i.imgur.com/6r8ss.gif?resize=500%2C203

[cwolff]

Pretty sure for the most part people from the very beginning said who gives a shit if they met with Russians. But all you have left is your spin.

I don't think so. From the beginning it was more like this, "If trump did this or that then I'd be the first one to say impeach him, but we should give him a chance blah blah blah." "He's the president now so we should support him but if he colluded then I'll be the first one to vote him out!"

There's no doubt that the excuses are ever evolving as more information comes to light.

Even trump has evolved his excuses. He does that across the spectrum but isolated to this one event you can see his excuses have evolved. His lawyers have also changed their statements.

To say the message has been consistent is not consistent with reality.

[cwolff]

Here's an example of what I'm talking about regarding their changing stories. Note how he says he'd only been involved for a couple of weeks at that time. This keeps coming up when they want to distance themselves and we've seen it with Manafort and Coffee Boy.


According to Sekulow, who had previously put out a memo about the meeting that is now at odds with Trump’s admission he had only been involved in the Trump legal camp for “a couple of weeks” at the time.

Adressing his own investigation about the meeting, he added, “There was a lot of information we were gathering.”

“As my colleague Rudy Giuliani said at the time, I had bad information at that time and made a mistake in my statement. I’ve talked about that before,” he explained. “That happens when you have cases like this.”

“I have to say, over time, facts develop,” he admitted.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/trump-attorney-jay-sekulow-admits-misled-public-trump-tower-meeting-facts-develop-time/#.W2dl56MpSY0.twitter

[SHAFT]

Pretty sure for the most part people from the very beginning said who gives a shit if they met with Russians. But all you have left is your spin.

Why all the lies?


https://youtu.be/sfsd6uW-D0I

[Wrathbringer]

Pretty sure for the most part people from the very beginning said who gives a shit if they met with Russians. But all you have left is your spin.

This is correct.

[Neveragain]

That's spot on. It's a religious argument like the "god of the gaps" theory. As we fill in the gaps they keep shrinking their defense to avoid dealing with the new evidence.

Didn't you just quote the Pope a couple days ago?

[Neveragain]

False, nice try though.


DONALD Trump has a 50 percent approval rating according to a poll which shows that he is even more popular now than he was in 2016 when he won the US election and is more popular than Barack Obama at the same point in his presidency.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ZthlLA0H2hwAfRK/giphy.gif

[Androidpk]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ZthlLA0H2hwAfRK/giphy.gif

the wailing death cry of a troll

[Neveragain]

the wailing death cry of a troll

So you're calling for Bernie to step down?

[Androidpk]

Let me know when the FBI are investigating Bernie for anything illegal he did during the 2016 election.

[cwolff]

So you're calling for Bernie to step down?

You should start a Bernie/HRC/Obama thread so you can catalog your grievances against them in a more proper place.

[Androidpk]

You should start a Bernie/HRC/Obama thread so you can catalog your grievances against them in a more proper place.

He doesn't actually have any grievances, this is just a very sad attempt at trolling.

[Neveragain]

Let me know when the FBI are investigating Bernie for anything illegal he did during the 2016 election.

He's named in Muellers findings. None of us know what the FBI is investigating, maybe Kranar for IP's for all we know.

[Neveragain]

You should start a Bernie/HRC/Obama thread so you can catalog your grievances against them in a more proper place.

https://media.collegetimes.com/uploads/2015/01/stop-whining.gif

[cwolff]

The question's asked over and over about what laws were broken. Here's an idea from Stephanopoulos. We don't know what will come of any of this, but it does answer the question of possible charges.


"The question is how would [the meeting] would be illegal," Sekulow said on ABC's "This Week." "You have to look at what laws, rules, regulations, statutes are purportedly violated here."
'"Well, they've actually pointed to several, including conspiracy to defraud the United States," host George Stephanopoulos retorted. "That would be one of the possible charges, aiding and abetting conspiracy."

Manafort is on trial for conspiracy against the United States right now (among other charges).


They also got Papadopolous for trying to get "dirt" like Don Jr. did.



In a separate development Monday, newly unsealed court documents show George Papadopoulos, a former foreign policy adviser to Donald Trump, pleaded guilty on Oct. 5.
As part of a sworn statement to the court, Papadopoulos says he repeatedly met in 2016 with Russians offering “dirt” on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Papadopoulos says he then relayed that and other messages from the Russians to senior members of Trump’s GOP campaign.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/a-guide-to-all-of-the-charges-against-manafort-and-gates

[Neveragain]

He doesn't actually have any grievances, this is just a very sad attempt at trolling.

https://i.redd.it/77mfbgqfot7z.jpg

[Neveragain]

The question's asked over and over about what laws were broken. Here's an idea from Stephanopoulos. We don't know what will come of any of this, but it does answer the question of possible charges.



Manafort is on trial for conspiracy against the United States right now (among other charges).


They also got Papadopolous for trying to get "dirt" like Don Jr. did.




https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/a-guide-to-all-of-the-charges-against-manafort-and-gates


BERNIE’S CHIEF STRATEGIST CONTACTED FORMER RUSSIAN SPY RIGHT BEFORE JOINING CAMPAIGN


Evidence in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian collusion in the 2016 election reveals that former Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’ chief strategist was in contact with a former Russian intelligence agent before joining the campaign.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/19/bernie-sanders-strategist-russian-spy/

https://media.rbl.ms/image?u=%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F01%2F19%2F63588762727479 4140-2024545506_-TJ2uN.gif&ho=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.theodysseyonline.com&s=990&h=ab51f19b4cdd257e8b246ccffaeafc95fa3202f987273338 4d07bf5cb7e6bc28&size=980x&c=2428884191

[cwolff]

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/19/bernie-sanders-strategist-russian-spy/



You should start a Bernie/HRC/Obama thread so you can catalog your grievances against them in a more proper place.

.

[Neveragain]

.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyV22q8PfBA

[Tgo01]

As a lay person you can see a number of possible crimes commited by Don Jr. and his Dad.

Like I said the other day, anything is a "potential" crime if you fill in the blanks with what you think is incriminating evidence. For me I just haven't seen the evidence yet that suggests Trump did something illegal, if that evidence comes out I'll assess the information then. I'm not going to speculate.


Conspiring with a foreign government to get opposition research on your political opponent is a crime.


I don't know what crimes if any have been committed.

Hilarious.

[Tgo01]

Why all the lies?


https://youtu.be/sfsd6uW-D0I

I'm talking about the "Trumpsters." You knew that.

[Parkbandit]

Your Führer provided some evidence earlier today. Nothing like admitting collusion with Russians on twitter...

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/7EA9BB34-40E9-4CA1-B854-6F651C2B1628_zpslmi2bc2v.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/7EA9BB34-40E9-4CA1-B854-6F651C2B1628_zpslmi2bc2v.jpeg.html)

When you compare Trump to Hitler.. it not only makes you look like a retard.. but it also makes you look almost as pathetic as cwolff.

Seriously, take a 4th grade history class if you need to learn about Adolf Hitler.

[SHAFT]

I'm talking about the "Trumpsters." But you knew that.

It's fascinating how Trump supporters are willing to be lied to like this. Trump is a pathological liar on a scale we've never seen before.

I would understand it if Trump supporters were actually getting something out of it, but besides an extra $100 or so on your paycheck, what do you actually get? ICE has ramped up deportations, so your fear of brown-skinned people has probably diminished a bit, but I don't see anything else.

[Methais]

.

https://i.redd.it/zaeacf8zh4a11.jpg

[SHAFT]

When you compare Trump to Hitler.. it not only makes you look like a retard.. but it also makes you look almost as pathetic as cwolff.

Seriously, take a 4th grade history class if you need to learn about Adolf Hitler.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/9A5F2709-0625-43B3-9BA5-475A297A9CBD_zpsvaopnsci.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/9A5F2709-0625-43B3-9BA5-475A297A9CBD_zpsvaopnsci.jpeg.html)

[Neveragain]

It's fascinating how Trump supporters are willing to be lied to like this. Trump is a pathological liar on a scale we've never seen before.

I would understand it if Trump supporters were actually getting something out of it, but besides an extra $100 or so on your paycheck, what do you actually get? ICE has ramped up deportations, so your fear of brown-skinned people has probably diminished a bit, but I don't see anything else.

4.1% gdp growth and record low unemployment.

https://i.imgflip.com/248dp3.jpg

[Methais]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/9A5F2709-0625-43B3-9BA5-475A297A9CBD_zpsvaopnsci.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/9A5F2709-0625-43B3-9BA5-475A297A9CBD_zpsvaopnsci.jpeg.html)

Don't be such a vaginahead.

[Neveragain]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/9A5F2709-0625-43B3-9BA5-475A297A9CBD_zpsvaopnsci.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/9A5F2709-0625-43B3-9BA5-475A297A9CBD_zpsvaopnsci.jpeg.html)

What makes Trump a Tyrant like Hitler?

[SHAFT]

4.1% gdp growth and record low unemployment.

I don't see how that benefits you. What are you getting out of it, besides the ability to troll strangers on the internet?

Those numbers aren't groundbreaking and in no way are reflective of anything Trump has accomplished.

It's actually more amazing he hasn't completely fucked it up.

[Tgo01]

It's fascinating how Trump supporters are willing to be lied to like this. Trump is a pathological liar on a scale we've never seen before.

Pathological liar on a scale we've never seen before? Please.

Obama blamed a stupid YouTube video for why 4 Americans were murdered in Benghazi. He claimed over and over again that if you liked your doctor you could keep your doctor, and that the average American family would save 2500 dollars a year on their health insurance premiums.

Those are real lies that resulted in the deaths of Americans and ultimately affected the way of life for Americans.

Trump "lies" about some stupid meeting with some stupid lawyer from stupid Russia and it's the worst thing ever? Stop.

[Methais]

Pathological liar on a scale we've never seen before? Please.

Obama blamed a stupid YouTube video for why 4 Americans were murdered in Benghazi. He claimed over and over again that if you liked your doctor you could keep your doctor, and that the average American family would save 2500 dollars a year on their health insurance premiums.

Those are real lies that resulted in the deaths of Americans and ultimately affected the way of life for Americans.

Trump "lies" about some stupid meeting with some stupid lawyer from stupid Russia and it's the worst thing ever? Stop.

https://i.imgur.com/CoWZ05t.gif

[SHAFT]

Pathological liar on a scale we've never seen before? Please.

Obama blamed a stupid YouTube video for why 4 Americans were murdered in Benghazi. He claimed over and over again that if you liked your doctor you could keep your doctor, and that the average American family would save 2500 dollars a year on their health insurance premiums.

Those are real lies that resulted in the deaths of Americans and ultimately affected the way of life for Americans.

Trump "lies" about some stupid meeting with some stupid lawyer from stupid Russia and it's the worst thing ever? Stop.

You can follow it. WaPo does a great job of tracking the lies.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/D0D49B50-2E30-4F7C-8C70-0215AD961CB3_zps2p6yuvgj.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/D0D49B50-2E30-4F7C-8C70-0215AD961CB3_zps2p6yuvgj.jpeg.html)

[Neveragain]

I don't see how that benefits you. What are you getting out of it, besides the ability to troll strangers on the internet?

Those numbers aren't groundbreaking and in no way are reflective of anything Trump has accomplished.

It's actually more amazing he hasn't completely fucked it up.

Those numbers = higher middle class incomes. Obviously it's too difficult for you to understand.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuhXkCF-L2E

https://i.redd.it/p7jcto0dveuz.jpg

[Tgo01]

You can follow it. WaPo does a great job of tracking the lies.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/shaft4783/D0D49B50-2E30-4F7C-8C70-0215AD961CB3_zps2p6yuvgj.jpeg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/D0D49B50-2E30-4F7C-8C70-0215AD961CB3_zps2p6yuvgj.jpeg.html)

Here you go:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUSlot-3hSs

[SHAFT]

Don't be such a vaginahead.

My first instinct is to insult you back, but I’m not going to.

I’m going to send a tweet to ray Lewis and ask him to pray for you. He’s really good at this.

Maybe he can get Jesus to speak to you and maybe you’ll rethink all of this. God bless!

[SHAFT]

Those numbers = higher middle class incomes. Obviously it's too difficult for you to understand.

The 4.1% would be 6th best in the Obama era. Nothing to brag about it.

[Neveragain]

The 4.1% would be 6th best in the Obama era. Nothing to brag about it.

Was that not a good thing?

[SHAFT]

Was that not a good thing?

Great if you admire mediocrity. He could and should be doing better.

[pimpinhoes]

2 Icecream scoops, 2 genders, 2 terms
Deal with It liberals!
Trump 2020

[SHAFT]

2 Icecream scoops, 2 genders, 2 terms
Deal with It liberals!
Trump 2020

Still need a wizard? Holla

[cwolff]

It's ok to give trump credit for good numbers. The economy's great. I have real concerns about the future but my predictions that trump would immediately fuck everything up were wrong.

What's galling is that you won't give Obama credit for his numbers. No metric is outstandingly different from where Obama had the economy headed and the rate of job growth is slowing. That makes sense because we're running out of unemployed and nothing to blame trump for but in the same vein you've got to give Obama credit.

What we see, over and over again, is that the right wingers here will consistently look back to blame democrats and consistently only look forward from 1/20/16 to praise trump.

[Methais]

My first instinct is to insult you back, but I’m not going to.

I’m going to send a tweet to ray Lewis and ask him to pray for you. He’s really good at this.

Maybe he can get Jesus to speak to you and maybe you’ll rethink all of this. God bless!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTLlzHyfyS8

[SHAFT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTLlzHyfyS8

I said god bless.

[Methais]

I said god bless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o35naCLWSo

[cwolff]

These guys just throw shit at the wall to see what sticks. It works great on their base who eat this stuff up. Not sure what affect it's having on the rest of the electorate.


“Well, I wonder why the Secret Service, if this was nefarious, why the Secret Service allowed these people in. The president had Secret Service protection at that point, and that raised a question with me,” Jay Sekulow, a member of the president’s legal team, said on Sunday on the ABC news program “This Week.”

In an emailed response to questions about Sekulow’s comments, Secret Service spokesman Mason Brayman said the younger Trump was not under Secret Service protection at the time of the meeting, which included Trump’s son and two senior campaign officials.

“Donald Trump, Jr. was not a protectee of the USSS in June, 2016. Thus we would not have screened anyone he was meeting with at that time,” the statement said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN1A10Q9?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Co ntent&utm_content=596bca7204d301057d5d6b67&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

[Methais]

These guys just throw shit at the wall to see what sticks. It works great on their base who eat this stuff up. Not sure what affect it's having on the rest of the electorate.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN1A10Q9?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Co ntent&utm_content=596bca7204d301057d5d6b67&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter


https://youtu.be/KSD0Mjt64LQ

[Neveragain]

Great if you admire mediocrity. He could and should be doing better.


GDP Annual Growth Rate in the United States averaged 3.20 percent from 1948 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 13.40 percent in the fourth quarter of 1950 and a record low of -3.90 percent in the second quarter of 2009.

Above average. Best I'm seeing out of Obama was around 3.80 and that took 7 years to accomplish.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth-annual

Not sure where you're getting your numbers from but they are fake news.

[Parkbandit]

It's fascinating how Trump supporters are willing to be lied to like this. Trump is a pathological liar on a scale we've never seen before.

I would understand it if Trump supporters were actually getting something out of it, but besides an extra $100 or so on your paycheck, what do you actually get? ICE has ramped up deportations, so your fear of brown-skinned people has probably diminished a bit, but I don't see anything else.

$100 a week for 52 weeks is $5200 a year. I realize you are so rich, probably richer than even time4fun.. but $5200 a year is a big deal to most people.

And seeing your meltdown enter year #2 soon has been everything and more that I thought it would be when I pulled that level for President Trump.

Thank you.

[cwolff]

Ya judge nap. It's really unfortunate that the mean old government makes it easier (easier than what I don't know) to bust politicians who conspire with foreign powers to work against their fellow citizens in open and fair elections. On a positive note it's good that they're talking about it as a reality now and not doing the "No collusion to collusion is not a crime" conversion, but WTF. We should be a grateful nation that our Law Enforcement community has the tools to fight these types of crimes.


“Is there a crime here or conspiracy?” co-host Ainsley Earhardt asked Napolitano.

“I don’t know the answer to that. But unfortunately, a lot of these statutes are written to make it easier for the government to convict,” Napolitano said in response.

“So if there was an agreement to receive dirt on Hillary from the Russians, even if the dirt never came, if those who agreed, at least one of them, took some step in furtherance of the agreement, then there is the potential crime for conspiracy,” Napolitano added.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/400667-napolitano-explains-how-trump-tower-meeting-could-amount-to

[time4fun]

Ya judge nap. It's really unfortunate that the mean old government makes it easier (easier than what I don't know) to bust politicians who conspire with foreign powers to work against their fellow citizens in open and fair elections. On a positive note it's good that they're talking about it as a reality now and not doing the "No collusion to collusion is not a crime" conversion, but WTF. We should be a grateful nation that our Law Enforcement community has the tools to fight these types of crimes.



http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/400667-napolitano-explains-how-trump-tower-meeting-could-amount-to

Eye roll. But you know things are dire when Fox News starts this phase of the propaganda cycle.

[Parkbandit]

Hate to break it to you but I got a feeling he’s going to get a 2nd term. :(

Given the Democrat Platform, the perspective nominees and the absolute meltdown by the MSM and liberal retards... it's almost a certainty.

4 MORE YEARS!

Also: In before you get rekt again, dumbass.

[Candor]

Given the Democrat Platform, the perspective nominees and the absolute meltdown by the MSM and liberal retards... it's almost a certainty.

4 MORE YEARS!



Yeah I think so too.

Be sure to schedule a couple days off after the election - you're gonna be glued to the television watching liberals go crazy afterwards.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah I think so too.

Be sure to schedule a couple days off after the election - you're gonna be glued to the television watching liberals go crazy afterwards.

I'll catch the highlights.. and to be honest, after 4 full years of liberals going batshit insane like they currently are.. I'll probably be bored with it.

[cwolff]

3rd parties are killing us. Fucking Manchik in Ohio running for Green party taking 1% of the vote. Where the hell is Ross Perot when you need him?


I first decided to run for Congress in 2015 when I became truly ashamed and disgusted that this evil man and the Speaker of the House, John Boehner, was actually representing the good people of Ohio in the United States House of Representatives in Washington.

https://manchikforcongress.wordpress.com/

[~Rocktar~]

3rd parties are killing us. Fucking Manchik in Ohio running for Green party taking 1% of the vote. Where the hell is Ross Perot when you need him?



https://manchikforcongress.wordpress.com/

Bill can't be President again so he won't run.

[Methais]

3rd parties are killing us. Fucking Manchik in Ohio running for Green party taking 1% of the vote. Where the hell is Ross Perot when you need him?



https://manchikforcongress.wordpress.com/

It was the Russians! Just ask the chick from Who's The Boss? because she definitely has all the inside info. Possibly even more than Magnum P.K.

https://i.imgur.com/ILFfQhA.png

[Parkbandit]

3rd parties are killing us. Fucking Manchik in Ohio running for Green party taking 1% of the vote. Where the hell is Ross Perot when you need him?

https://manchikforcongress.wordpress.com/

It's not the 3rd parties that are killing you.. it's your far left crazy train liberal agenda that is turning people against you.

Sorry.

Its's very telling that 1000 people would rather vote for a complete lunatic who believes he is the offspring of aliens than to have to vote for the Democrat.