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ClydeR
08-01-2018, 09:59 AM
Not sure why Trump decided to tweet about Manafort during his trial. Is Trump saying that the charges against Manafort are a hoax?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjhK2wvUUAEq010.jpg
cwolff
08-05-2018, 06:43 PM
Manaforts notes from the Trump Tower meeting. They're definitely talking about the Magnitsky act at a minimum. I hope the rest of it's figured out during his trial. Whatever it is though, it's a lot more than what Don Jr. let on but we already know he's lied about the meeting.
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Androidpk
08-05-2018, 07:05 PM
Not sure why Trump decided to tweet about Manafort during his trial. Is Trump saying that the charges against Manafort are a hoax?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjhK2wvUUAEq010.jpg
Hoaxes all the way down.
Parkbandit
08-05-2018, 07:07 PM
Manafort's trial is about things that happened well before President Trump even announced his candidacy for President.
So this has absolutely nothing to do with President Trump. At all.
Androidpk
08-05-2018, 07:24 PM
Mueller likely has a sealed indictment for Manafort.
Methais
08-06-2018, 08:51 AM
Mueller likely has a sealed subpoena for Kranar.
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cwolff
08-06-2018, 04:39 PM
JUST IN: Rick Gates testifies that he committed crimes with Paul Manafort
Manafort is putting it all on the line for a pardon. He's got balls, that's for sure.
https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/1026566156184965124
Androidpk
08-06-2018, 04:58 PM
Prosecutor Greg Andres asked Gates if he conducted “criminal activity” with Manafort and if he had “committed crimes” with Manafort. Gates said “yes” to both questions.
be sure to send manafort your thoughts and prayers
SHAFT
08-06-2018, 05:28 PM
Manafort is putting it all on the line for a pardon. He's got balls, that's for sure.
https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/1026566156184965124
Yes he is. That's why he was contacting witnesses while under house arrest and while he was in jail. He gives no fucks.
cwolff
08-06-2018, 05:35 PM
Yes he is. That's why he was contacting witnesses while under house arrest and while he was in jail. He gives no fucks.
What scares me is that he could win. That would rock the political landscape and could you imagine how all those guys who confessed to get a deal are going to feel. LOL
I doubt he'll get off but stranger things have happened.
cwolff
08-06-2018, 09:07 PM
This judge seems cray cray in the Manafort trial. They say that this is just his style. I don't know but I don't like it. He's making himself the story by fighting with the prosecution.
“These people are not making political donations,” the prosecutor said. Calling the donors “oligarchs” — a term Ellis banned the government from using in front of the jury last week — Andres explained that their livelihood was completely dependent on government-granted monopolies.
“That makes it even clearer to me” that it’s not relevant, the judge interjected. “It doesn’t matter whether they’re good or bad or oligarchs or crooks or mafia or whatever. … You don’t need to throw mud at these people.”
At that point, Ellis noted that Andres was looking at the lectern. “You’re looking down as if to say, ‘This is B.S.,’” the judge complained.
Andres seemed angered by the accusation and said the judge was leaping to conclusions. “We don’t do that to you,” the prosecutor said.
When the judge mentioned an earlier complaint he made about lawyers rolling their eyes, Andres interrupted again and the atmosphere grew tense. “I find it hard to believe I was both looking down and rolling my eyes,” he said.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/06/manafort-trial-judge-prosecution-765100
Androidpk
08-06-2018, 09:56 PM
Just Judge Ellis being Judge Ellis.
time4fun
08-06-2018, 10:00 PM
Seriously though- I don't understand what his problem is. Nothing going on in this case is even REMOTELY abnormal. I know he has a reputation as being a bit pugnacious, but this is pretty extreme.
And it's going to seriously call into question the final outcome of the case if he rules in Manafort's favor on anything significant- which seems VERY counterproductive.
Tgo01
08-06-2018, 10:08 PM
This judge seems cray cray in the Manafort trial. They say that this is just his style. I don't know but I don't like it. He's making himself the story by fighting with the prosecution.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/06/manafort-trial-judge-prosecution-765100
A judge being a judge? This is news.
cwolff
08-06-2018, 10:13 PM
A judge being a judge? This is news.
A judge being a judge isn't news.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 08:43 AM
The biggest bombshell from this trial so far is that some of Manafort's offshore Cyprus bank accounts were run by Russian GRU spy Konstantin Kilimnik.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 09:00 AM
I missed this tidbit. Source?
Methais
08-07-2018, 09:07 AM
www.source.com
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 09:08 AM
I missed this tidbit. Source?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/06/us/politics/rick-gates-manafort-trump-trial.html#click=https://t.co/xH9p3JzEGH
Parkbandit
08-07-2018, 09:54 AM
So.. this still has absolutely nothing to do with President Trump.
Shocker.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 10:07 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/06/us/politics/rick-gates-manafort-trump-trial.html#click=https://t.co/xH9p3JzEGH
Fascinating. Russian Intelligence with their hands directly in the illegal foreign back accounts of a campaign manager for a US Presidential candidate.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 10:18 AM
Fascinating. Russian Intelligence with their hands directly in the illegal foreign back accounts of a campaign manager for a US Presidential candidate.
A campaign manager on the brink of financial disaster, willing to work for Trump for free. Total nothingburger.
~Rocktar~
08-07-2018, 10:48 AM
So.. this still has absolutely nothing to do with President Trump.
Shocker.
https://youtu.be/wxlhyX-4qKI
cwolff
08-07-2018, 11:54 AM
And Mr. Manafort told the accountants that he had no foreign bank accounts, although prosecutors claim that millions of dollars flowed through his accounts in Cyprus and St. Vincent and the Grenadines. Late last week, out of the jury’s hearing, Judge T.S. Ellis III of the United States District Court in Alexandria said prosecutors had proved both that Mr. Manafort personally denied that those accounts existed and that he controlled them.
I am interested to see if they connect these dots or if it's also a nothing burger. Pruitt's gone, Zinke's in hot water and I hope Ross is the next swamp creature to get scrutinized. This Forbes article (https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2018/08/06/new-details-about-wilbur-rosss-businesses-point-to-pattern-of-grifting/) is a start.
Ross was appointed vice-chairman at the bank after his investment in 2014, a post he shared with a deposit holder-turned-shareholder, Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, referred to in Russian media as a former KGB official and Putin ally. According to the bank’s annual reports, the two attended two board meetings together in 2014 and as many as five together in 2015 before Strzhalkovsky’s May 2015 resignation from the board. One of the questions that has been posed to Ross by Democratic senators is whether he ever had contact with Strzhalkovsky.
One of Ross’s first big decisions at the bank was the appointment of former Deutsche Bank chief executive Josef Ackermann as chairman, whom he chose in part because of Ackermann’s “huge Rolodex”, according to a 2014 Bloomberg interview.ARTICLE (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/23/wilbur-ross-russian-deal-bank-of-cyprus-donald-trump-commerce-secretary)
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 03:04 PM
Gates testifies Paul Manafort wanted him to use his position with Trump campaign to give a lender a favor -- maybe even cabinet position
Paul Manafucked. womp womp
time4fun
08-07-2018, 03:13 PM
Paul Manafucked. womp womp
There's definitely a reason why Trump is out in full anti-press hysteria force right now.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 03:19 PM
His deplorables are eating up the anti-media shit he's been spewing.
New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media
The “enemy of the people” talk is working. A plurality of self-identified Republicans say they want Trump to have the power to take “bad” media outlets out.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 03:25 PM
His deplorables are eating up the anti-media shit he's been spewing.
New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media
The “enemy of the people” talk is working. A plurality of self-identified Republicans say they want Trump to have the power to take “bad” media outlets out.
I saw that. It's really disheartening. There's nothing this man isn't willing to burn to the ground to save his own hide.
The lasting damage this man is doing to our democracy is mounting daily. Hatred of the free press, distrust in our own elections, and a perverted acceptance of colluding with foreign governments to throw our elections their way are all bad for our long-term health.
And there's just no reaching these people. I hate that he's winning this PR war with the world's most cynical political strategy. I know it's only a minority group in this country, but our two party system gives them a LOT of power.
It makes you realize how people like Putin and Mussolini happen. It makes you realize how easily it can happen here.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 03:26 PM
What gets lost in this avalanche of bad news for trump is that he's got absolute shit for brains when it comes to hiring people. His judgement is TERRIBLE. He hired all these criminals, conspiracy theory nutters, racists, grifters and scammers.
For good or bad, he does such lousy decision-making on the regular that it's difficult for reporters to cover the grand breadth and scope of his incompetence and therein lies the genius.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 03:30 PM
I saw that. It's really disheartening. There's nothing this man isn't willing to burn to the ground to save his own hide.
The lasting damage this man is doing to our democracy is mounting daily. Hatred of the free press, distrust in our own elections, and a perverted acceptance of colluding with foreign governments to throw our elections their way are all bad for our long-term health.
And there's just no reaching these people. I hate that he's winning this PR war with the world's most cynical political strategy. I know it's only a minority group in this country, but our two party system gives them a LOT of power.
It makes you realize how people like Putin and Mussolini happen. It makes you realize how easily it can happen here.
Never in a million years did I think we'd live to see this in the U.S.A.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 03:33 PM
When they release his tax returns how much you want to bet the dude’s not even a billionaire?
I would love to know the answer to this question and I hope that someday we will know with certainty. I bet he isn't/wasn't a billionaire before and I'll also bet that he's lining his pockets now.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 03:33 PM
lol. dude it ain’t THAT bad. Chill.
It's exactly that bad and are you MacGyver?
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 03:34 PM
I saw that. It's really disheartening. There's nothing this man isn't willing to burn to the ground to save his own hide.
The lasting damage this man is doing to our democracy is mounting daily. Hatred of the free press, distrust in our own elections, and a perverted acceptance of colluding with foreign governments to throw our elections their way are all bad for our long-term health.
And there's just no reaching these people. I hate that he's winning this PR war with the world's most cynical political strategy. I know it's only a minority group in this country, but our two party system gives them a LOT of power.
It makes you realize how people like Putin and Mussolini happen. It makes you realize how easily it can happen here.
The silver lining in all of this is that Trump and his goons are fucking incompetent criminals.
Methais
08-07-2018, 03:56 PM
It's exactly that bad and are you MacGyver?
He is, and he's correct, and you're a vagina.
Not that Necro isn't a vagina too, but you're way more of a vagina, by a pretty huge margin. Necro is probably at least capable of being ok if he really wanted to stop acting like a cunt. You on the other hand are overflowing with way too much estrogen to ever recover from your chronic Trump Anxiety Disorder and being so soymotionally unstable. Watch now as you become enraged at the first sign of Necro not blindly agreeing with you.
The silver lining in all of this is that our stupidity is really entertaining for regular people.
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Tgo01
08-07-2018, 04:03 PM
I saw that. It's really disheartening. There's nothing this man isn't willing to burn to the ground to save his own hide.
The lasting damage this man is doing to our democracy is mounting daily. Hatred of the free press, distrust in our own elections, and a perverted acceptance of colluding with foreign governments to throw our elections their way are all bad for our long-term health.
And there's just no reaching these people. I hate that he's winning this PR war with the world's most cynical political strategy. I know it's only a minority group in this country, but our two party system gives them a LOT of power.
It makes you realize how people like Putin and Mussolini happen. It makes you realize how easily it can happen here.
Oh please. People have been growing tired of the press long before Trump. You yourself even attacked the media as the enemy, well the media you disagreed with. Why ou pretending like you always liked the media?
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 04:07 PM
Oh please. People have been growing tired of the press long before Trump. You yourself even attacked the media as the enemy, well the media you disagreed with. Why ou pretending like you always liked the media?
Why do you hate the United States so much?
cwolff
08-07-2018, 04:08 PM
Oh please. People have been growing tired of the press long before Trump. You yourself even attacked the media as the enemy, well the media you disagreed with. Why ou pretending like you always liked the media?
She's not saying what you say she's saying but I do take note of the fact that once again you defend your side at all costs. Even Karl Rove is against you on the media issue.
Methais
08-07-2018, 04:38 PM
Why do you hate the United States so much?
Why do you hate masturbating women so much?
time4fun
08-07-2018, 05:39 PM
Oh please. People have been growing tired of the press long before Trump. You yourself even attacked the media as the enemy, well the media you disagreed with. Why ou pretending like you always liked the media?
Please point out the instance where I attacked media as an enemy of our country.
I'll wait.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 05:40 PM
The silver lining in all of this is that Trump and his goons are fucking incompetent criminals.
But the people with a vested interest in covering it all up aren't.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 06:02 PM
But the people with a vested interest in covering it all up aren't.
Like who? Nunes, Goodlatte, Jordan, and others in the House have certainly been trying and failing pretty hard.
Neveragain
08-07-2018, 07:24 PM
Never in a million years did I think we'd live to see this in the U.S.A.
You really need Jesus in your life and Black Sabbath.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvcBFsBt4hg
You're welcome.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 07:42 PM
Like who? Nunes, Goodlatte, Jordan, and others in the House have certainly been trying and failing pretty hard.
They've been very effective at muddying the waters.
How many of the conservative posse here are actually willing to admit that Nunes made up any of his insane claims, let alone all of them?
That's the damage these people have done.
Neveragain
08-07-2018, 08:08 PM
They've been very effective at muddying the waters.
How many of the conservative posse here are actually willing to admit that Nunes made up any of his insane claims, let alone all of them?
That's the damage these people have done.
I don't even know who Nunes, Goodlatte or Jordan (unless you're talking about Michael Jordan) are. It's like I don't give a fuck because it has zero impact on my life.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 08:17 PM
I don't even know who Nunes, Goodlatte or Jordan (unless you're talking about Michael Jordan) are. It's like I don't give a fuck because it has zero impact on my life.
Tell us again how you give zero fucks, by continuously posting in the politics folder.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 08:36 PM
She's not saying what you say she's saying but I do take note of the fact that once again you defend your side at all costs. Even Karl Rove is against you on the media issue.
What?
The lasting damage this man is doing to our democracy is mounting daily. Hatred of the free press
Oh please. People have been growing tired of the press long before Trump. You yourself even attacked the media as the enemy, well the media you disagreed with. Why ou pretending like you always liked the media?
That's exactly what she said, that suddenly people are hating the "free press" since Trump. This shit goes far beyond Trump. Obama literally said Fox news was "destructive" for the country. Were you all crying like little babies then? No, of course not. Because you guys "defend your side at all costs."
Why can't you guys just admit that almost everything you attack Trump for Obama was guilty of in the first place? This is some classic Goebbels shit going on right here.
Neveragain
08-07-2018, 08:37 PM
Tell us again how you give zero fucks, by continuously posting in the politics folder.
I post in the PC politics folder to make people that support killing the innocent in the womb look like retards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NRbycO0O_k
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 08:38 PM
Please point out the instance where I attacked media as an enemy of our country.
I'll wait.
Oh is that the only thing you bitch about? The specific words "enemy of our country"? So attacking the news is fine, just don't use the phrase "enemy of our country."
How narrow your faux outrage is.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 08:42 PM
Yes Tg, its not entirely brand new with trump. The MSM/liberal media bias thing has been gaining traction for 30 years.
Whats vastly different is the aggressive attacks on journalism. Its a very different thing when the potus is the lead cheerleader for calling journalism fake and disgusting and starts wars.
Even Karl Rove compared it to Stalin. That should tell you something.
Neveragain
08-07-2018, 08:49 PM
Yes Tg, its not entirely brand new with trump. The MSM/liberal media bias thing has been gaining traction for 30 years.
Whats vastly different is the aggressive attacks on journalism. Its a very different thing when the potus is the lead cheerleader for calling journalism fake and disgusting and starts wars.
Even Karl Rove compared it to Stalin. That should tell you something.
Karl Rove is a slut, we already killed that part of the Republican party in '08.
Sadly we had to kill the Clinton democrat guard for you as well, because you guys are pussies.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 08:50 PM
Whats vastly different is the aggressive attacks on journalism.
Not really. Obama attacked Fox news often, and since the rest of the media was licking his asshole whenever he took a shit he felt no need to attack anyone else.
Let's not forget that Obama's administration also spied on several members of the media, including a Fox News reporter and several reporters at the Associated Press, and Obama prosecuted leakers and whistle blowers regularly.
If you want to say no president should attack the press then fine, but let's not start this nonsense that we are in new territory here.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 08:53 PM
Not really. Obama attacked Fox news often, and since the rest of the media was licking his asshole whenever he took a shit he felt no need to attack anyone else.
Let's not forget that Obama's administration also spied on several members of the media, including a Fox News reporter and several reporters at the Associated Press, and Obama prosecuted leakers and whistle blowers regularly.
If you want to say no president should attack the press then fine, but let's not start this nonsense that we are treading new water here.
No one disagrees that every president has had a bitch about their media coverage. You simply refuse to be willing to ponder the idea that trumps attacks are going WAY beyond what the other presidents did.
Enemy of the state? WTF? As an American you really should chafe at that comparison. Country before party.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 09:04 PM
If you want to say no president should attack the press then fine, but let's not start this nonsense that we are in new territory here.
You can try to spin it anyway you want but it is new territory. No POTUS before has ever called the media the enemy of the people. That you're still supporting Trump despite his dangerous behavior is no surprise though.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 09:07 PM
No one disagrees that every president has had a bitch about their media coverage. You simply refuse to be willing to ponder the idea that trumps attacks are going WAY beyond what the other presidents did.
Enemy of the state? WTF? As an American you really should chafe at that comparison. Country before party.
Is "enemy of the American people" really that much different than calling the media "destructive" to the American people?
Also can you quote for me exactly when Trump referred to the media as the enemy of the American people? I'm not doubting he said it, but I couldn't find an example of it. All I could find was he said fake news was the enemy of the American people. So is this yet another example of the media pushing literal fake news and everyone just takes them at their word? Because if it is maybe Trump is onto something.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 09:11 PM
You can try to spin it anyway you want but it is new territory. No POTUS before has ever called the media the enemy of the people. That you're still supporting Trump despite his dangerous behavior is no surprise though.
I'll ask you the same thing, have a quote of Trump calling the media the enemy of the people?
Here is Trump in August of this year:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-says-only-the-fake-news-are-the-enemy-of-the-people/
They asked my daughter Ivanka whether or not the media is the enemy of the people. She correctly said no. It is the FAKE NEWS, which is a large percentage of the media, that is the enemy of the people!
Here is Trump in Feb of last year:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/832708293516632065
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!
Seems at this point even if you can find an example of him saying the news is the enemy of the American people he was clearly referring to what he calls "fake news."
But I know logic isn't your strong suit so I don't expect an epiphany on your part.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 09:14 PM
For trump almost all news is fake news. He categorizes it by good for him and bad for him. If its good for him its not fake.
I'm not going to get dragged into splitting hairs about this. If you can't understand what the world is saying about your guy, then you're demonstrating that you're simply unwilling to see it.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 09:18 PM
For trump almost all news is fake news. He categorizes it by good for him and bad for him. If its good for him its not fake.
I'm not going to get dragged into splitting hairs about this. If you can't understand what the world is saying about your guy, then you're demonstrating that you're simply unwilling to see it.
Oh he sees it, he's just so far down in the Trump cult that at this point he's too fucking embarrassed to come back to reality.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 09:18 PM
Is "enemy of the American people" really that much different than calling the media "destructive" to the American people?
Also can you quote for me exactly when Trump referred to the media as the enemy of the American people? I'm not doubting he said it, but I couldn't find an example of it. All I could find was he said fake news was the enemy of the American people. So is this yet another example of the media pushing literal fake news and everyone just takes them at their word? Because if it is maybe Trump is onto something.
Learn to google.
"Heading to Helsinki, Finland – looking forward to meeting with President Putin tomorrow. Unfortunately, no matter how well I do at the Summit, if I was given the great city of Moscow as retribution for all of the sins and evils committed by Russia.....over the years, I would return to criticism that it wasn’t good enough – that I should have gotten Saint Petersburg in addition! Much of our news media is indeed the enemy of the people and all the Dems......know how to do is resist and obstruct! This is why there is such hatred and dissension in our country – but at some point, it will heal! "
This is dictator language. American Presidents do NOT use this language for good reason.
This man systematically goes after any institution that has authority over him. He has convinced you to attack the free Press, the Judiciary, and even his own Department of Justice.
And if you think these are coincidental choices- I've got some swamp land in Florida to sell you.
A man who is under investigation for some VERY serious crimes- many of which have been publicly uncovered by the free Press- starts attacking the Justice system and the Press....and you just go right along with it? NOTHING about that seems really self-serving and suspicious?
Tell me you have more common sense than this. Some part of you has to understand what's going on here. I'll give you a hint: the answer is NOT that the Press, the Courts, the FBI, AND the rest of the US Intelligence community are all suddenly, and magically corrupt institutions going after the world's most innocent man.
That Press that he's attacking? They've been RIGHT about him. His contacts with Russia, his business deals with Russia (that were going on DURING the campaign), the fact that our Allies in Europe spotted suspicious activity and let us know what was going on, the fact that he WAS under investigation, the fact that his campaign DID meet with Russia to get illegally hacked information on their competition...it goes on and on and on. He was actually the one who was wrong. He lied through his teeth about all of that.
And that DoJ? In about a year, that investigation already has a significant number of high ranking campaign officials under indictment and- in most cases- admitting to wrongdoing. So they were right about him and his campaign.
So tell me- who is the real enemy of the people right now?
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 09:19 PM
I'm not going to get dragged into splitting hairs about this.
It's not splitting hairs at all. If Trump is saying fake news is the enemy of the people, and the media has repeated he said ALL news was the enemy of the people so much that everyone believed it (shit even I thought that's what he said) then doesn't Trump have a point? It makes a big difference. You can disagree with Trump on what exactly constitutes "fake news", but there is a huge difference between attacking fake news and attacking the entire media.
The media is supposed to report the news. If they change Trump's actual words to change the narrative of his attacks then isn't the media in the business of pushing a narrative and not in the business of reporting on the news? Which is fine, that's still perfectly legal, but you can't simultaneously say the news is sacrosanct because they keep us informed and keep politicians honest and also acknowledge they don't report the news accurately.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 09:21 PM
Oh he sees it, he's just so far down in the Trump cult that at this point he's too fucking embarrassed to come back to reality.
Ya, its a problem and it won't end with trump. I don't know what will fix it but I believe its gonna get worse before it gets better.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 09:22 PM
Learn to google.
So far we have two quotes of Trump referring to "fake news" as the "enemy of the people" and referring to "much of our news media" as the enemy of the people? Could those same "much of" the media be the "fake news" he was referring to?
It's almost like you're too happy to be lied to as long as those lies paint Trump in a bad light.
Do you also hold the news accountable for claiming Trump attacked the entire media and declared the news the enemy of the people? Or do they get a pass for lying because most of them hate Trump?
time4fun
08-07-2018, 09:23 PM
Ya, its a problem and it won't end with trump. I don't know what will fix it but I believe its gonna get worse before it gets better.
Much worse. The god damn idiots have sent a bright red invitation to every enemy of the US that they should start interfering with our elections. There are no real repercussions, and it turns out half of the country is absolutely willing to look the other way.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 09:25 PM
I'm just glad Republicans won't care at all when China colludes with a Democrat candidate in 2020. After all everyone does it and collusion isn't illegal.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 09:25 PM
Much worse. The god damn idiots have sent a bright red invitation to every enemy of the US that they should start interfering with our elections. There are no real repercussions, and it turns out half of the country is absolutely willing to look the other way.
Uh...Obama was president while Russia was interfering with our elections and he not only did nothing about it, he initially claimed they weren't interfering. See? More of that Goebbels shit going on.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 09:25 PM
I'm just glad Republicans won't care at all when China colludes with a Democrat candidate in 2020. After all everyone does it and collusion isn't illegal.
I mean, come on. It's not as serious as having a private email server.
So. You know. No big deal.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 09:26 PM
Much worse. The god damn idiots have sent a bright red invitation to every enemy of the US that they should start interfering with our elections. There are no real repercussions, and it turns out half of the country is absolutely willing to look the other way.
Thats the truth. They could almost argue theoretically that trump implicitilly approves of their interference because hes known about it since the 2016 campaign but also welcomed it, even asked for it.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 09:27 PM
Uh...Obama was president while Russia was interfering with our elections and he not only did nothing about it, he initially claimed they weren't interfering. See? More of that Goebbels shit going on.
That's not true and it also does nothing to absolve trump of shirking his duty as potus.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 09:27 PM
I mean, come on. It's not as serious as having a private email server.
So. You know. No big deal.
Weird, the same Republicans who threw tantrums over Hillary's disregard for security standards don't give a shit about Trump literally selling out the country to Russia.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 09:29 PM
Weird, the same Republicans who threw tantrums over Hillary's disregard for security standards don't give a shit about Trump literally selling out the country to Russia.
Remember golfing and vacations? Executive orders? Deficits? In a macabre way its fascinating to see how they have abandoned all the principles that they held so dear just a short two years ago.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 09:32 PM
That's not true and it also does nothing to absolve trump of shirking his duty as potus.
You're right, it's just more evidence of Democrats giving Obama a pass while attacking Trump mercilessly for doing the same thing.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 09:36 PM
Uh...Obama was president while Russia was interfering with our elections and he not only did nothing about it, he initially claimed they weren't interfering. See? More of that Goebbels shit going on.
He levied Sanctions against them for it you nitwit. Sanctions that Trump IMMEDIATELY tried to repeal when he got into office. BECAUSE HE MADE A DEAL WITH THE FUCKING RUSSIANS. He got them to disseminate selectively released, hacked emails to make his opponent look bad and to wage a sophisticated misinformation campaign that affected millions of people in this country. And, in return, he covered their tracks and tried to lift the sanctions they were so desperate to lift.
And that fact has been staring you in the face for over two years now. And you've rushed to this treasonous bastard's defense over and over again, and every time he's made you out to be a damn fool.
He said he had no contact with the Russians, and you defended him. But- oops- there were DOZENS of contacts with the Russians during the campaign.
He said he had no business dealings with Russia, and you defended him. But- oops- he was negotiating a Trump Tower Moscow DURING the campaign. (After the first one went down in flames because, oh right, Russian sanctions)
Then he said that the Russians weren't interfering in our elections, and, once again, you defended him. But OH WAIT- they did (and are). AND not only did the FBI inform him of this, SO DID THE FUCKING RUSSIANS.
Then he said the Trump Tower meeting had nothing to do with sanctions or getting dirt on Clinton- it was adoptions. And you defended him. But wait- holy crap- it was about BOTH Sanctions AND getting dirt on Clinton.
Then he said he didn't fire Flynn for the Russia investigation- he was just doing it because Flynn was really mean to Clinton. And what'd you do? You defended him. Then he gets up on national TV and says- oh yeah, I was thinking about the Russia investigation when I did it.
I could go on for pages here. Are you seriously not tired of defending a god damn pathological liar who manipulates you and treats you like garbage? How many times are you going to fall for this before you finally admit that he's everything that everyone has been telling you he is. He's been human garbage his whole life. He has left a path of destruction everywhere he's gone. He has ties to Russian mobsters. His properties have been used in Russian money laundering. He's been sued countless times for not paying his employees and contractors. He's defrauded Trump U students. He used his foundation for self-dealing. He's a fucking crook.
And you're just the idiot who keeps acting like he's something he's not.
Grow up already. This country needs you to join reality before it's too late.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 09:37 PM
You're right, it's just more evidence of Democrats giving Obama a pass while attacking Trump mercilessly for doing the same thing.
I diagree about the Obama thing but its nuts for you to think trump gets a free pass because you think Obama did. This is why I ask from time time, "have you no moral center? No core beliefs of right and wrong?"
cwolff
08-07-2018, 09:39 PM
He levied Sanctions against them for it you nitwit. Sanctions that Trump IMMEDIATELY tried to repeal when he got into office. BECAUSE HE MADE A DEAL WITH THE FUCKING RUSSIANS. He got them to disseminate selectively released, hacked emails to make his opponent look bad and to wage a sophisticated misinformation campaign that affected millions of people in this country. And, in return, he covered their tracks and tried to lift the sanctions they were so desperate to lift.
And that fact has been staring you in the face for over two years now. And you've rushed to this treasonous bastard's defense over and over again, and every time he's made you out to be a damn fool.
He said he had no contact with the Russians, and you defended him. But- oops- there were DOZENS of contacts with the Russians during the campaign.
He said he had no business dealings with Russia, and you defended him. But- oops- he was negotiating a Trump Tower Moscow DURING the campaign. (After the first one went down in flames because, oh right, Russian sanctions)
Then he said that the Russians weren't interfering in our elections, and, once again, you defended him. But OH WAIT- they did (and are). AND not only did the FBI inform him of this, SO DID THE FUCKING RUSSIANS.
Then he said the Trump Tower meeting had nothing to do with sanctions or getting dirt on Clinton- it was adoptions. And you defended him. But wait- holy crap- it was about BOTH Sanctions AND getting dirt on Clinton.
Then he said he didn't fire Flynn for the Russia investigation- he was just doing it because Flynn was really mean to Clinton. And what'd you do? You defended him. Then he gets up on national TV and says- oh yeah, I was thinking about the Russia investigation when I did it.
I could go on for pages here. Are you seriously not tired of defending a god damn pathological liar who manipulates you and treats you like garbage? How many times are you going to fall for this before you finally admit that he's everything that everyone has been telling you he is. He's been human garbage his whole life. He has left a path of destruction everywhere he's gone. He has ties to Russian mobsters. His properties have been used in Russian money laundering. He's been sued countless times for not paying his employees and contractors. He's defrauded Trump U students. He used his foundation for self-dealing. He's a fucking crook.
And you're just the idiot who keeps acting like he's something he's not.
Grow up already. This country needs you to join reality before it's too late.
Damn girl! You win the PC today. Drop the mic
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 09:41 PM
He levied Sanctions against them for it you nitwit. Sanctions that Trump IMMEDIATELY tried to repeal when he got into office. BECAUSE HE MADE A DEAL WITH THE FUCKING RUSSIANS. He got them to disseminate selectively released, hacked emails to make his opponent look bad and to wage a sophisticated misinformation campaign that affected millions of people in this country. And, in return, he covered their tracks and tried to lift the sanctions they were so desperate to lift.
And that fact has been staring you in the face for over two years now. And you've rushed to this treasonous bastard's defense over and over again, and every time he's made you out to be a damn fool.
He said he had no contact with the Russians, and you defended him. But- oops- there were DOZENS of contacts with the Russians during the campaign.
He said he had no business dealings with Russia, and you defended him. But- oops- he was negotiating a Trump Tower Moscow DURING the campaign. (After the first one went down in flames because, oh right, Russian sanctions)
Then he said that the Russians weren't interfering in our elections, and, once again, you defended him. But OH WAIT- they did (and are). AND not only did the FBI inform him of this, SO DID THE FUCKING RUSSIANS.
Then he said the Trump Tower meeting had nothing to do with sanctions or getting dirt on Clinton- it was adoptions. And you defended him. But wait- holy crap- it was about BOTH Sanctions AND getting dirt on Clinton.
Then he said he didn't fire Flynn for the Russia investigation- he was just doing it because Flynn was really mean to Clinton. And what'd you do? You defended him. Then he gets up on national TV and says- oh yeah, I was thinking about the Russia investigation when I did it.
I could go on for pages here. Are you seriously not tired of defending a god damn pathological liar who manipulates you and treats you like garbage? How many times are you going to fall for this before you finally admit that he's everything that everyone has been telling you he is. He's been human garbage his whole life. He has left a path of destruction everywhere he's gone. He has ties to Russian mobsters. His properties have been used in Russian money laundering. He's been sued countless times for not paying his employees and contractors. He's defrauded Trump U students. He used his foundation for self-dealing. He's a fucking crook.
And you're just the idiot who keeps acting like he's something he's not.
Grow up already. This country needs you to join reality before it's too late.
Yeah but what about that time Obama wore a tan suit, huh??
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 09:45 PM
He levied Sanctions against them for it you nitwit.
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/587614043/fact-check-why-didnt-obama-stop-russia-s-election-interference-in-2016
After Election Day, Obama ordered the U.S. intelligence community to issue a public report about the Russian scheme. Once it had — and concluded Russia's attack was aimed at helping Trump and hurting Clinton — the United States imposed a slate of punitive measures against Moscow.
You referring to this? He waited until after election day to do something? Such a great leader. "Let's not do something BEFORE the election because I know Hillary will win and I don't want to make it look like Russia interfered on Hillary's behalf. Let's just ignore it and let Hillary win and my legacy will be safe."
There is also this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/trump-russia-sanctions.html
WASHINGTON — The Trump administration imposed sanctions on a series of Russian organizations and individuals on Thursday in retaliation for interference in the 2016 presidential election and other “malicious cyberattacks,” its most significant action against Moscow since President Trump took office.
So much for that narrative that Trump has only been trying to get rid of Russian sanctions since taking office huh, Goebbels?
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 09:45 PM
I diagree about the Obama thing but its nuts for you to think trump gets a free pass because you think Obama did. This is why I ask from time time, "have you no moral center? No core beliefs of right and wrong?"
I don't give Trump a pass at all. My question is what more do you want Trump to do? What did you want Obama to do? You guys act like you want war or something.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 09:47 PM
Damn girl! You win the PC today. Drop the mic
She wins the PC for her first two sentences being incredibly misleading?
Did she make any non-lying points after that because I didn't even bother to read anymore.
Candor
08-07-2018, 09:48 PM
Gates informed the court this week that Manafort failed to report 15 foreign bank accounts. That wasn't the only significant piece of information, but this one fact alone, in my opinion, makes the chance of Manafort walking out without any convictions very low. He had to report the accounts. Either he did or he didn't. And apparently he didn't.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 09:52 PM
Goebbels
This fucking guy.. :lol: Alt right protests with guys marching around with Nazi flags and you say that shit? :lol:
cwolff
08-07-2018, 09:52 PM
She wins the PC for her first two sentences being incredibly misleading?
Did she make any non-lying points after that because I didn't even bother to read anymore.
She really hits the bullseye with this part. Its worth pondering.
I could go on for pages here. Are you seriously not tired of defending a god damn pathological liar who manipulates you and treats you like garbage? How many times are you going to fall for this before you finally admit that he's everything that everyone has been telling you he is. He's been human garbage his whole life. He has left a path of destruction everywhere he's gone. He has ties to Russian mobsters. His properties have been used in Russian money laundering. He's been sued countless times for not paying his employees and contractors. He's defrauded Trump U students. He used his foundation for self-dealing. He's a fucking crook.
And you're just the idiot who keeps acting like he's something he's not.
Grow up already. This country needs you to join reality before it's too late.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 09:54 PM
This fucking guy.. :lol: Alt right protests with guys marching around with Nazi flags and you say that shit? :lol:
So only one group of people at a time can be taking lessons from the Nazis? Interesting theory.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 09:54 PM
Gates informed the court this week that Manafort failed to report 15 foreign bank accounts. That wasn't the only significant piece of information, but this one fact alone, in my opinion, makes the chance of Manafort walking out without any convictions very low. He had to report the accounts. Either he did or he didn't. And apparently he didn't.
For real. We're not there and we're not on the jury but it does appear they have him dead to rights on some clear cut criminality.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 09:54 PM
Gates informed the court this week that Manafort failed to report 15 foreign bank accounts. That wasn't the only significant piece of information, but this one fact alone, in my opinion, makes the chance of Manafort walking out without any convictions very low. He had to report the accounts. Either he did or he didn't. And apparently he didn't.
The juiciest part about those foreign bank accounts is the Russian spy who was running them. There's no doubt Manafort is fucked. I'm just wondering when Manafort's conspiracy indictment is going to be unsealed, before or after November's elections.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 09:55 PM
So only one group of people at a time can be taking lessons from the Nazis? Interesting theory.
Let us know when you see some Democrats goose stepping around with the Nazi flag. :lol:
cwolff
08-07-2018, 09:56 PM
The juiciest part about those foreign bank accounts is the Russian spy who was running them. There's no doubt Manafort is fucked. I'm just wondering when Manafort's conspiracy indictment is going to be unsealed, before or after November's elections.
What Is up with that? I've only heard of it from your posts.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 09:59 PM
What Is up with that? I've only heard of it from your posts.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/06/us/politics/rick-gates-manafort-trump-trial.html#click=https://t.co/xH9p3JzEGH
And Mr. Gates testified that Konstantin V. Kilimnik, a Russian who prosecutors claim is tied to Russian intelligence, had signatory authority over some of Mr. Manafort’s accounts in Cyprus.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 10:01 PM
It was easy enough to dismiss those old hunches as conspiracy theories. The immediate post-Soviet period was a time rife with unfounded accusations. But Robert Mueller has begun to state them as fact. Or rather, in two separate fillings, he has referred to an unnamed colleague of Manafort’s, identified only as “Person A,” with “ties to Russian intelligence.” In a brief Mueller submitted to a U.S. District Court in the course of pressing his case against Manafort, he went one step further. Citing FBI special agents, the special prosecutor described Person A’s ties to Russian intelligence as “active” through the 2016 presidential election.
What everyone close to Paul Manafort already knew, and what The New York Times and other outlets later confirmed, is that Mueller was pseudonymously describing none other than Konstantin Kilimnik. Or to put it even more bluntly than Mueller: Donald Trump’s campaign chairman had a pawn of Russian intelligence as his indispensable alter ego
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/the-astonishing-tale-of-the-man-mueller-calls-person-a/562217/
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 10:02 PM
Let us know when you see some Democrats goose stepping around with the Nazi flag. :lol:
What about walking around with the Soviet Union flag? Since you all seem to hate Russia so much. Or do Democrats get a pass when they idolize a different brutal dictatorship?
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 10:05 PM
What about walking around with the Soviet Union flag? Since you all seem to hate Russia so much. Or do Democrats get a pass when they idolize a different brutal dictatorship?
I thought they were Nazis, make up your mind.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 10:11 PM
I thought they were Nazis, make up your mind.
Ah, they get a pass. Got it.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 10:17 PM
Weird, the same Republicans who threw tantrums over Hillary's disregard for security standards don't give a shit about Trump literally selling out the country to Russia.
Not to mention the fact that they were okay with a dozen investigations over the course of years- even when they never once led to a single indictment. And they want an investigation into the most serious allegations a sitting President has ever faced in the history of our country and one of the greatest national security threats we've faced in the last 100 years shut down immediately even after resulting in dozens upon dozens of indictments.
You know, I'm starting to think they don't really care about justice, and that their moral outrage over the Clinton email server was less than sincere.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 10:19 PM
She wins the PC for her first two sentences being incredibly misleading?
Did she make any non-lying points after that because I didn't even bother to read anymore.
There's literally nothing misleading about pointing out that Obama DID do something about the election interference. And I didn't even get to the part where he tried to do more but McConnell stopped him.
And the only reason why you stopped reading was because you can't continue to keep up your fantasy if you do. Because if you actually allowed yourself to read what I said and to seriously, sincerely respond without deflection, without misdirection...you'd realize you don't have a response. Because I'm right.
But you won't let that happen. You haven't let facts get in your way up to this point- why start now?
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 10:22 PM
Ah, they get a pass. Got it.
Unlike you I don't give any political party a pass.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 10:23 PM
Damn girl! You win the PC today. Drop the mic
As you can tell, I'm getting a little tired of watching these people get EVERYTHING wrong over and over and over again and yet still refuse to accept reality. They spin these lies, they buy into the liars, and then they turn around and accuse the rest of the world of grand conspiracies to deceive them. It's bordering on mental illness at this point.
time4fun
08-07-2018, 10:24 PM
Unlike you I don't give any political party a pass.
And, unlike the rest of these clowns, you can back that claim up.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 10:28 PM
There's literally nothing misleading about pointing out that Obama DID do something about the election interference.
AFTER the election. I said Obama was president while they were interfering in our elections and did nothing about it. Saying he did something about it after the elections were already over doesn't prove my point wrong at all, in fact it's the opposite.
Furthermore it's incredibly misleading to claim Trump tried to remove said sanctions without acknowledging that Trump too imposed sanctions on Russia in direct response to their interference in our elections.
So again we have Obama and Trump both doing the exact same thing; imposing sanctions AFTER the elections were already over. Guess which one is the Russian puppet doing Putin's bidding though? Yeah, that's right. Pick that mic back up because you just got served.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 10:29 PM
Unlike you I don't give any political party a pass.
I'm sure I'll be seeing you calling out Democrats all of the time for waving around the Soviet Union flag then. I'm sure you'll dedicate entire threads to whining about it whenever they do.
Any day now.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 10:31 PM
I'm sure I'll be seeing you calling out Democrats all of the time for waving around the Soviet Union flag then. I'm sure you'll dedicate entire threads to whining about it whenever they do.
Any day now.
Because I've never called out a Democrat before, right? :jerkit:
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 10:40 PM
Because I've never called out a Democrat before, right? :jerkit:
https://ianusher.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/moving-goalposts.jpg
Also the only Democrat I recall you going after with as much fervor as you go after Republicans/Trump was Hillary, and that's not really fair because Hillary was universally hated.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 10:48 PM
wrong again, as usual
Neveragain
08-07-2018, 10:56 PM
You guys act like you want war or something.
And this is the entire risk. Russians have been trying to fuck with our country for generations, just like we have done to theirs. Now these fucking idiots will risk sending some poor kid from a red state off to fucking war just because they lost an election. Their own candidate fucked with the election process more than any Russians boogeymen did and the entire alt-left side gets a pass right along with Clinton. This whole time they promote communist ideals which is the whole fucking reason we are supposed to "hate" Russians in the first place.
It has fucking reeked of bullshit since the whole Russian fairy tale started.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 11:01 PM
Hawkeye: Chingachgook told me, "Don't try to understand them; and don't try to make them understand you. For they are a breed apart and make no sense.".
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 11:01 PM
Because war is the only option? Seriously, you fucking guys.. :lol2:
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 11:05 PM
Because war is the only option? Seriously, you fucking guys.. :lol2:
I asked what more do you want Trump to do? What more did you want Obama to do? Simple questions yet the answers are no where to be seen. Just deflections, deflections everywhere.
And subpoenas. And calling people Nazis. And pedophiles. And threatening to sue people over hurt fee fees.
Neveragain
08-07-2018, 11:10 PM
Because war is the only option? Seriously, you fucking guys.. :lol2:
Start holding the candidate you supported accountable for the same accusations of Russian collusion and I may start taking you seriously.
Until then, you're just the guy that threatens to dox people, steals from people, sponges off women then publicly bitches about your hosts masturbation.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 11:11 PM
I asked what more do you want Trump to do? What more did you want Obama to do? Simple questions yet the answers are no where to be seen. Just deflections, deflections everywhere.
And subpoenas. And calling people Nazis. And pedophiles. And threatening to sue people over hurt fee fees.
I wanted Obama to make it public that Russia was working the election regardless of the risk that trump and McConnell politicize it. I want that he and Congress would have slapped way harder sanctions on Russia. I wanted that when congress voted overwhelmingly to sanction Russia that trump put it in motion immideately. I wanted that trump admitted Russian interference from the start. I wanted the trump's campaign didn't collude with Russia. I wanted trump to stand with his intelligence service not throw them under the bus. I wanted trump to literally stand with his intel leaders and condemn Russian interference instead of giving a speech the same day saying it's just a hoax.
There's a lot left wanting but today there's a chance to do something about it. What do you want trump to do?
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 11:12 PM
I asked what more do you want Trump to do? What more did you want Obama to do? Simple questions yet the answers are no where to be seen. Just deflections, deflections everywhere.
And subpoenas. And calling people Nazis. And pedophiles. And threatening to sue people over hurt fee fees.
All I want Trump to do right now is to talk to Mueller. Simple as that.
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 11:14 PM
Start holding the candidate you supported accountable for the same accusations of Russian collusion and I may start taking you seriously.
Until then, you're just the guy that threatens to dox people, steals from people, sponges off women then publicly bitches about your hosts masturbation.
Let us know when Mueller is investigating Bernie :lol2:
Androidpk
08-07-2018, 11:26 PM
This is a super interesting tidbit..
Rick Gates, the former deputy chair of President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign and a member of Trump's inauguration planning committee, testified Tuesday in the criminal trial of his former boss Paul Manafort that it was "possible" Gates stole money from the inauguration.
We know Mueller is paying very close attention to the inauguration, the people that attended (Russians) and the insane amount of money that was pulled in; where it came from, where it went.
cwolff
08-07-2018, 11:33 PM
This is a super interesting tidbit..
We know Mueller is paying very close attention to the inauguration, the people that attended (Russians) and the insane amount of money that was pulled in; where it came from, where it went.
It'll take years to unwind the web around this presidency. Seth Abramson was saying that the investigation will go well into 2019 and I hope they get to the bottom of that money for the inauguration.
Concerns over how the committee’s money was used began to gain traction in the summer of 2017, and after the tax return was filed in February, the New York Times reported that the majority of the $107 million was used for overinflated administrative expenses, as well as to pay four separate event-planning firms. One of those firms, WIS Media Partners, was created only six weeks prior to the inauguration by Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a close friend of Melania Trump. The firm received close to $26 million from the inaugural committee, and questions have been raised as to how exactly that money was allocated. Craig Holman of the watchdog group Public Citizen, which has investigated how the committee spent its money, told the Times that the committee’s use of the donations represented “fiscal mismanagement at its worst.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-and-the-case-of-the-107000000-629230/
time4fun
08-07-2018, 11:38 PM
All I want Trump to do right now is to talk to Mueller. Simple as that.
I want him and his treasonous friends to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
And I want the Republican party to go down in flames so that we can get a healthier version of it to show up. Because right now, they're the single most dangerous thing in American politics.
Tgo01
08-07-2018, 11:42 PM
I want him and his treasonous friends to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
And I want the Republican party to go down in flames so that we can get a healthier version of it to show up. Because right now, they're the single most dangerous thing in American politics.
It's cute when time4fun gets called out on her shit and all she has left is her hysterics. Who's a maniacal little alt-left wingnut? You are!
Neveragain
08-07-2018, 11:42 PM
Let us know when Mueller is investigating Bernie :lol2:
I have shown you numerous times where Bernie is named in Mueller's findings.
MUELLER is interested in the work that @TadDevine, who was the chief strategist for @BernieSanders 2016 presidential campaign, did with MANAFORT on behalf of the RUSSIA-aligned Ukrainian Party of Regions, based on this list of exhibits to be presented at trial starting next week.
11:56 AM - Jul 19, 2018
https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1019989409314361344
Dude, you have no idea what is being investigated. You also know Bernie had to pay a fine for illegal campaign donations. You also know Bernies campaign team hacked Clinton campaign info.
It only proves you don't give two fucks about Russians, you're just a crybaby because Bernie and the Democrats are the worst losers ever.
https://media1.tenor.com/images/10e4ce08a37f7d11818bbdda6ced07cf/tenor.gif?itemid=5733847
This is what it looked like when Bernie took Hillary's strap-on deep into his ass.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 07:55 AM
No one cares about your stupid obsession with Sanders, he lost, get over it.
Neveragain
08-08-2018, 07:59 AM
No one cares about your stupid obsession with Sanders, he lost, get over it.
You keep pretending he doesn't hold a public office. Basically you're a fraud, you should tell us more about how Trump and Clinton raped teenagers.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 08:19 AM
You keep pretending he doesn't hold a public office. Basically you're a fraud, you should tell us more about how Trump and Clinton raped teenagers.
Keep pretending Mueller is investigating Bernie. :lol:
Neveragain
08-08-2018, 08:29 AM
Keep pretending Mueller is investigating Bernie. :lol:
Don't dox me bro!
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 08:36 AM
Don't dox me bro!
Low energy troll, tired from all that shaking?
Neveragain
08-08-2018, 08:39 AM
Low energy troll, tired from all that shaking?
Still traumatized by the sounds of female masturbation?
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 08:41 AM
Still traumatized by the sounds of female masturbation?
I shook it off.
Neveragain
08-08-2018, 08:43 AM
I shook it off.
Sounds like she shook you off.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 08:46 AM
Sounds like she shook you off.
Sounds like you're obsessed with me. Creeper.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 08:46 AM
In b4 creeper responds with another lame comeback.
Neveragain
08-08-2018, 08:49 AM
In b4 creeper responds with another lame comeback.
The irony in you calling anyone a creeper is astonishing.
Don't dox me bro!
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 09:05 AM
In b4 creeper responds with another lame comeback.
Called it.
Methais
08-08-2018, 10:49 AM
All I want Trump to do right now is to talk to Mueller. Simple as that.
All everyone else wants is for you to stop talking but here we are anyway.
https://i.imgur.com/krm0LOC.jpg
Methais
08-08-2018, 10:52 AM
Called it.
He raised a 100% accurate point. You're just butthurt because even you know that you're a creepy sack of shit.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 10:55 AM
notice me senpai
:lol:
Methais
08-08-2018, 11:07 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/2fi900.jpg
http://rs492.pbsrc.com/albums/rr289/bassfrogger/Hansen_blank_background.jpg~c200
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 11:34 AM
look at this reject
https://i.imgur.com/ClmHwEA.png
Methais
08-08-2018, 11:35 AM
look at this reject
https://i.imgur.com/ClmHwEA.png
Oh boy. Should we tell him? Naah. :lol:
Your stupidity is like Clark Griswold's membership to the Jelly of the Month Club.
Astray
08-08-2018, 11:39 AM
Oh boy. Should we tell him? Naah. :lol:
Your stupidity is like Clark Griswold's membership to the Jelly of the Month Club.
If he doxes you I have a gun you can borrow.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 11:44 AM
If he doxes you I have a gun you can borrow.
why would I dox him on the pc? would be more fun to give all his info to antifa groups
Astray
08-08-2018, 11:48 AM
why would I dox him on the pc? would be more fun to give all his info to antifa groups
So you're incapable of settling your own business? Also, what the fuck is Antifa gonna do? Put him on a website? Put him on blast on Twitter?
Yeah, that'll show him.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 11:54 AM
So you're incapable of settling your own business? Also, what the fuck is Antifa gonna do? Put him on a website? Put him on blast on Twitter?
Yeah, that'll show him.
what would you suggest, a duel with pistols?
Astray
08-08-2018, 11:59 AM
what would you suggest, a duel with pistols?
I'd suggest if you're gonna go around attempting to gain personal information, you'd deal with it like a man, not a complete cretin. You're relying on a third party to settle your problems with someone. That makes you pathetic.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 12:05 PM
I'd suggest if you're gonna go around attempting to gain personal information, you'd deal with it like a man, not a complete cretin. You're relying on a third party to settle your problems with someone. That makes you pathetic.
right, I should just do what parkbandit, methais and the other shit stains do and follow them from thread to thread for 5+ years trolling and harassing them over false accusations, GG astray!
Astray
08-08-2018, 12:07 PM
right, I should just do what parkbandit, methais and the other shit stains do and follow them from thread to thread for 5+ years trolling and harassing them over false accusations, GG astray!
If you're incapable of seeing why you're being fucked with, I can't help you. Nobody can, not even your lawyer.
RichardCranium
08-08-2018, 12:14 PM
why would I dox him on the pc? would be more fun to give all his info to antifa groups
Eh, there's a pretty good reason you hear about Antifa in Oakland and Portland and not Baton Rouge.
time4fun
08-08-2018, 12:16 PM
Eh, there's a pretty good reason you hear about Antifa in Oakland and Portland and not Baton Rouge.
Because American conservatives have become progressively more tolerant of fascist tendencies in their leaders?
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 12:22 PM
Eh, there's a pretty good reason you hear about Antifa in Oakland and Portland and not Baton Rouge.
yeah no kidding
RichardCranium
08-08-2018, 12:23 PM
Because American conservatives have become progressively more tolerant of fascist tendencies in their leaders?
That's a pretty broad brush you're painting with.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 12:24 PM
Because American conservatives have become progressively more tolerant of fascist tendencies in their leaders?
It's why the GOP is throwing themselves in with the degenerates that eat up Infowars and that Q shit.
Tgo01
08-08-2018, 12:28 PM
Because American conservatives have become progressively more tolerant of fascist tendencies in their leaders?
First pk threatens Methais by doxing him to Antifa then time4fun comes along and defends Antifa. What a couple of completely worthless human beings you two turned out to be.
And evil keeps on going thinking it's doing good.
RichardCranium
08-08-2018, 12:32 PM
It's why the GOP is throwing themselves in with the degenerates that eat up Infowars and that Q shit.
I'm on a board with a Q thread that has 53930 replies as of this second.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 12:38 PM
First pk threatens Methais by doxing him to Antifa then time4fun comes along and defends Antifa. What a couple of completely worthless human beings you two turned out to be.
And evil keeps on going thinking it's doing good.
Says the Trump groupie.. :lol:
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 12:40 PM
I'm on a board with a Q thread that has 53930 replies as of this second.
Are they all mocking Q or is it a serious discussion?
RichardCranium
08-08-2018, 12:50 PM
Are they all mocking Q or is it a serious discussion?
Lol, very serious.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 01:02 PM
Cults are scary.
RichardCranium
08-08-2018, 01:12 PM
Cults are scary.
It's a SEC sports board with a political folder. And it's hilarious.
Neveragain
08-08-2018, 01:24 PM
right, I should just do what parkbandit, methais and the other shit stains do and follow them from thread to thread for 5+ years trolling and harassing them over false accusations, GG astray!
What a fucking dindo.
cwolff
08-08-2018, 02:38 PM
Don't worry about Q anymore. Anonymous is on the case they're going to out this Q character. hahaha
Methais
08-08-2018, 03:44 PM
why would I dox him on the pc? would be more fun to give all his info to antifa groups
That's gonna be great when it plays out, especially since you still haven't caught on to the most hilarious part of this whole failure of yours. Because you're really really fucking stupid.
Also make sure to show them the picture you posted (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?116627-Manafort&p=2044251#post2044251)so they'll know who to look for
PS: Guns > flying antifa dildos
Methais
08-08-2018, 03:48 PM
Because American conservatives have become progressively more tolerant of fascist tendencies in their leaders?
It's because down here we have a fuckload of guns and up there all they have are dildos and garbage can lids.
time4fun
08-08-2018, 06:58 PM
That's a pretty broad brush you're painting with.
If the brush fits...
Parkbandit
08-08-2018, 07:18 PM
right, I should just do what parkbandit, methais and the other shit stains do and follow them from thread to thread for 5+ years trolling and harassing them over false accusations, GG astray!
Dude... you are seriously losing it.
There is a huge difference between rehashing out shit YOU have said on this message board and creeping on people in real life and trying to get them fired because you got your feelings hurt.
Honestly, if I wanted to find out real life shit about you.. do you believe it would be difficult for me to do? I could have my PM box filled with specific stuff from at least 7 different people.
I don't care about you. I am just entertained by you being a piece of shit your entire life and how you fuck up other people's life with your sick sociopathic and mooching lifestyle.
If you had ANY type of self respect, you would have left here YEARS ago.. but you keep coming back because hey.. even negative attention is attention and you can't get that when you can't leave whoever's guest room you are crashing in...
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 07:58 PM
Says the guy sending dick picks to underage kids.
I still don't know what the fuck you're saying. If we're going to measure levels of being creepy, maybe we should think about a middle aged man who has followed a young boy around the internet for 10 years with nothing to contribute other than to let everyone know how badly that man wants that boy's dick. Get off my dick bro.
This sums up parkbandits PC posting for the last 10 years, finding people to latch onto and spew his impotent rage at..
You just want to antagonize me. All of your posts have been quoting me and responding with some totally irrelevant remark about how you don't like me.
It's why you're estranged from Rachel, your own kids can't stand what a toxic, abusive person you are. Fuck off already.
Tgo01
08-08-2018, 08:01 PM
Says the guy sending dick picks to underage kids.
This sums up parkbandits PC posting for the last 10 years, finding people to latch onto and spew his impotent rage at..
It's why you're estranged from Rachel, your own kids can't stand what a toxic, abusive person you are. Fuck off already.
So you can no longer claim you are just going by what Bob says right? Now you are literally making shit up about Parkbandit "sending dick picks (sic) to underage kids"? Good job, pk.
Ashlander
08-08-2018, 11:03 PM
So you can no longer claim you are just going by what Bob says right? Now you are literally making shit up about Parkbandit "sending dick picks (sic) to underage kids"? Good job, pk.
I mean if he's going by what Bob said then he has to admit he's a piece of shit cause that's what Bob said about him in the thread.
Androidpk
08-08-2018, 11:07 PM
I mean if he's going by what Bob said then he has to admit he's a piece of shit cause that's what Bob said about him in the thread.
I'd rather be a piece of shit than a pedophile any day of the week.
Wrathbringer
08-09-2018, 06:21 AM
I'd rather be a piece of shit than a pedophile any day of the week.
You get your wish. Congratulations.
Methais
08-09-2018, 08:55 AM
I'd rather be a piece of shit than a pedophile any day of the week.
Too bad for you you're both.
cwolff
08-09-2018, 04:08 PM
Nap says this isn't a case of a "judge being a judge". Ellis is making himself center stage. My hope is that there is so much evidence against Manafort that it's an easy decision for the jury find guilty.
"I'm not happy with this judge," Napolitano said on "The Daily Briefing" on Wednesday. "He's making too much of the case about him and he's showing an extraordinary bias against the government."
He said if Ellis feels that negatively about the prosecution, then he should keep those feelings to himself or he shouldn't be on the case.
"The jury can't be happy with this judge because of the snide, snarky comments," Napolitano said. ARTICLE (http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/08/08/napolitano-judge-manafort-trial-ts-ellis-showing-extraordinary-bias-against-government)
He also made a great argument against trump that the dems should seize on. Trump is the CEO president. If a company had a CEO make such shitty hiring decisions constantly he'd be fired. We should fire trump too.
Fox News’ Judge Andrew Napolitano told Dana Perino that he found Rick Gates to be a convincing witness, while pointing out that everything that Gates did seems “an encyclopedic example of the swamp that President Trump said he would drain.”
“He had these two guys running his campaign! They were worse than anybody!” he added. ARTICLE (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-judge-napolitano-slams-judge-in-manafort-trial-showing-extraordinary-bias-against-the-govt/)
Wrathbringer
08-09-2018, 04:16 PM
Nap says this isn't a case of a "judge being a judge". Ellis is making himself center stage. My hope is that there is so much evidence against Manafort that it's an easy decision for the jury find guilty.
He also made a great argument against trump that the dems should seize on. Trump is the CEO president. If a company had a CEO make such shitty hiring decisions constantly he'd be fired. We should fire trump too.
You're uber retarded.
Methais
08-09-2018, 04:28 PM
Nap says this isn't a case of a "judge being a judge". Ellis is making himself center stage. My hope is that there is so much evidence against Manafort that it's an easy decision for the jury find guilty.
He also made a great argument against trump that the dems should seize on. Trump is the CEO president. If a company had a CEO make such shitty hiring decisions constantly he'd be fired. We should fire trump too.
Jesus Christ you're such a fucking crybaby. :lol:
Parkbandit
08-09-2018, 07:19 PM
Says the guy sending dick picks to underage kids.
Says the pedo.... dude, stop projecting.
This sums up parkbandits PC posting for the last 10 years, finding people to latch onto and spew his impotent rage at..
Says the guy who complains about a woman masturbating. Dude, man up.
It's why you're estranged from Rachel, your own kids can't stand what a toxic, abusive person you are. Fuck off already.
Is this from the same source that says I'm divorced, have a girlfriend working at McDonalds, I beat my wife(ex) and install tubs? I should probably tell my daughter I'm estranged from her.. since she's home with her boyfriend for dinner tonight. I made meatloaf, mashed potatoes and green beans. It's her favorite meal.
Your level of failure, creepy and retardation is epic.
Thank you for reminding people what a piece of shit you are.
Ashlander
08-09-2018, 11:07 PM
Nap says this isn't a case of a "judge being a judge". Ellis is making himself center stage. My hope is that there is so much evidence against Manafort that it's an easy decision for the jury find guilty.
He also made a great argument against trump that the dems should seize on. Trump is the CEO president. If a company had a CEO make such shitty hiring decisions constantly he'd be fired. We should fire trump too.
I thought Fox News was a fake news source?
Tisket
08-10-2018, 01:53 PM
why would I dox him on the pc? would be more fun to give all his info to antifa groups
Narcissistic rage is characterized by fact distortion, planting and fostering rumors, character assassination, exaggeration, and flinging groundless accusations and misleading half-truths at anyone they feel has slighted them.
Sound familiar?
You are the lowest, most cowardly piece of shit the PC has ever encountered. No wonder you are such a failure in life.
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 02:00 PM
Narcissistic rage is characterized by fact distortion, planting and fostering rumors, character assassination, exaggeration, and flinging groundless accusations and misleading half-truths at anyone they feel has slighted them.
Sound familiar?
Yeah, thanks for describing parkbandit for us.
Tisket
08-10-2018, 02:03 PM
Yeah, thanks for describing parkbandit for us.
Love or hate PB...he fights his own battles and doesn't require or seek outside help to fight them.
Tisket
08-10-2018, 02:05 PM
I just have to wonder why you feel so inadequate to fight your own battles, pk?
Parkbandit
08-10-2018, 02:20 PM
Narcissistic rage is characterized by fact distortion, planting and fostering rumors, character assassination, exaggeration, and flinging groundless accusations and misleading half-truths at anyone they feel has slighted them.
Sound familiar?
You are the lowest, most cowardly piece of shit the PC has ever encountered. No wonder you are such a failure in life.
Hey now... don't forget, he went from Goodwill to a Journalist with many secret sources to a cyber security expert who goes to conferences.
I think you owe this piece of shit squatter an apology.
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 02:24 PM
Love or hate PB...he fights his own battles and doesn't require or seek outside help to fight them.
No, he just makes shit up on the fly. I begged for a job? I got fired from a job for stealing? I sleep on people's couches? I'm homeless? Ashliana is bipolar and has HIV? Seriously?? :lol2:
Parkbandit
08-10-2018, 02:25 PM
Love or hate PB...he fights his own battles and doesn't require or seek outside help to fight them.
I also:
1) Am not a professional squatter.
2) Don't go from home to home of people I meet and crash there while I'm just "down on my luck"
3) Am not bothered by female masturbation sounds.
4) Am not a deadbeat father to my bastard kid(s)
5) Don't look up people on social media that hurt my feelings in an attempt to get them fired.
6) Don't threaten pretend legal action on a roleplaying game unofficial forum, knowing full well I:
A) Have no case
B) could afford a lawyer
7) Don't sleep with married woman and then cry when they break it off with me.
8) Can come up with better insults than "Yea? You're a tub installer"
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 02:26 PM
Hey now... don't forget, he went from Goodwill to a Journalist with many secret sources to a cyber security expert who goes to conferences.
I think you owe this piece of shit squatter an apology.
Oh look, some more BS he's been spewing about me. I've never once claimed I have super secret sources. Because I don't. And I even specifically said I don't consider myself a cyber security expert, but now I'm going to be hearing you repeat that line for the next 5 years because you're fucking pathetic.
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 02:26 PM
I also:
1) Am not a professional squatter.
2) Go from home to home of people I meet and crash there while I'm just "down on my luck"
3) Am not bothered by female masturbation sounds.
4) Am not a deadbeat father to my bastard kid(s)
5) Don't look up people on social media that hurt my feelings in an attempt to get them fired.
6) Threaten pretend legal action on a roleplaying game unofficial forum, knowing full well I:
7)
pathetic
Parkbandit
08-10-2018, 02:31 PM
pathetic
That is a very good adjective for you... but probably a bit tame for my liking. It really doesn't portray what a gigantic failure you are or what a piece of sociopathic piece of shit you are.
I would expect something more from a journalist with super secret sources. I'm glad you gave up on that "career".
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 02:44 PM
just keep showing us what a sad old man you are
Wrathbringer
08-10-2018, 02:47 PM
just keep showing us what a sad old man you are
You mean, what a retard you are. Nothing sad about him. Just you.
Wrathbringer
08-10-2018, 02:49 PM
No, he just makes shit up on the fly. I begged for a job? I got fired from a job for stealing? I sleep on people's couches? I'm homeless? Ashliana is bipolar and has HIV? Seriously?? :lol2:
Confirmed Ashliana is HIV positive.
Methais
08-10-2018, 03:02 PM
Confirmed Ashliana is HIV positive.
Confirmed Ashliana is pk.
Taernath
08-10-2018, 03:08 PM
I would expect something more from a journalist with super secret sources. I'm glad you gave up on that "career".
To be fair, his 'federal background in journalism' was him editing videos for the Air Force.
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 03:42 PM
To be fair, his 'federal background in journalism' was him editing videos for the Air Force.
Just editing?
time4fun
08-10-2018, 04:16 PM
Just editing?
Um, I think they would know your job better than you do PK.
Taernath
08-10-2018, 04:31 PM
Just editing?
This course trains airmen in the operation of the DVC PRO video camera, a variety of editing systems, audio studios, and lighting equipment.
Is your point that you also learned how to frame shots? I'm still gonna go with "yes".
Um, I think they would know your job better than you do PK.
I mean, people in the military have a general idea of what other military peoples' jobs do, there's nothing really arcane about it, but being a civilian you wouldn't know this. I don't know why guys who have boring military jobs like to imply they were something they weren't, but pk is the king when it comes to that.
Tgo01
08-10-2018, 04:34 PM
Is your point that you also learned how to frame shots? I'm still gonna go with "yes".
I mean, people in the military have a general idea of what other military peoples' jobs do, there's nothing really arcane about it, but being a civilian you wouldn't know this. I don't know why guys who have boring military jobs like to imply they were something they weren't, but pk is the king when it comes to that.
I even recall one time pk said his job was to take photos of people. I vaguely recall one time he said something about for a stretch of his career he was specifically assigned to one higher up and took photos of him to make him look good.
Taernath
08-10-2018, 04:38 PM
I even recall one time pk said his job was to take photos of people. I vaguely recall one time he said something about for a stretch of his career he was specifically assigned to one higher up and took photos of him to make him look good.
jernalizm
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 04:58 PM
I don't know why guys who have boring military jobs like to imply they were something they weren't, but pk is the king when it comes to that.
When exactly have I EVER implied anything that my job wasn't? You're fucking delusional, dude.
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 04:59 PM
I even recall one time pk said his job was to take photos of people. I vaguely recall one time he said something about for a stretch of his career he was specifically assigned to one higher up and took photos of him to make him look good.
Nope.
Taernath
08-10-2018, 05:11 PM
When exactly have I EVER implied anything that my job wasn't? You're fucking delusional, dude.
I have a background in government and journalism.
.
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 05:12 PM
.
Yeah, saying I have a background in XYZ is totally bragging.. :lol:
Tisket
08-10-2018, 06:08 PM
Why do some people (pk) believe they will appear more impressive by inflating the importance of a previous job?
Ridiculously pathetic.
Some Rogue
08-10-2018, 06:16 PM
Why do some people (pk) believe they will appear more impressive by inflating the importance of a previous job?
Ridiculously pathetic.
I'll have you know I was guild master of my local rogue's guild at one time.
Neveragain
08-10-2018, 06:23 PM
Why do some people (pk) believe they will appear more impressive by inflating the importance of a previous job?
Ridiculously pathetic.
It's just a cover for his career as a male prostitute.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/trailerpark/images/b/b7/Smokey-trailer-park-boys.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161111201405
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 06:51 PM
I'm just going to insert my foot into my mouth once again.
you do that
Tisket
08-10-2018, 07:14 PM
I'll have you know I was guild master of my local rogue's guild at one time.
So hot.
Parkbandit
08-10-2018, 07:43 PM
Why do some people (pk) believe they will appear more impressive by inflating the importance of a previous job?
Ridiculously pathetic.
If you worked for Goodwill... wouldn't you make something else up?
Tisket
08-10-2018, 07:53 PM
If you worked for Goodwill... wouldn't you make something else up?
No, I wouldn't. Honest work is nothing shameful.
Unless one has a massive self-confidence problem that is.
Taernath
08-10-2018, 08:27 PM
Why do some people (pk) believe they will appear more impressive by inflating the importance of a previous job?
Ridiculously pathetic.
I think he was intimidated by some of the other veterans here that had more 'prestigious' jobs or assignments while he spent his enlistment during the wars in an overseas coffee shop. Then these political threads started and he wanted a way to play up his credentials, so he started talking about his supposed "background" in government and journalism while dropping hints about sources and contacts and secret squirrel stuff.
To be clear, I'm not giving him shit because I think being a videographer is lowly or something (it's not, if he wasn't a fuckup he could have turned that into a bank civilian career), but because of the way he's talking up his experience into something it wasn't.
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 08:50 PM
No, I wouldn't. Honest work is nothing shameful.
Unless one has a massive self-confidence problem that is.
PB seems to think working at GW is something someone should be ashamed of. Sure the pay wasn't stellar but the work itself was fascinating.
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 08:53 PM
I think he was intimidated by some of the other veterans here that had more 'prestigious' jobs or assignments while he spent his enlistment during the wars in an overseas coffee shop. Then these political threads started and he wanted a way to play up his credentials, so he started talking about his supposed "background" in government and journalism while dropping hints about sources and contacts and secret squirrel stuff.
To be clear, I'm not giving him shit because I think being a videographer is lowly or something (it's not, if he wasn't a fuckup he could have turned that into a bank civilian career), but because of the way he's talking up his experience into something it wasn't.
Yeah.. I'm jealous of.. who exactly? I know Gelston was infantry in the Marines and I think cwolff was surface fleet in the Navy.. other than that I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And these political threads? I've been posting in the politics folder for years now and have never played up credentials/backgrounds/sources/contacts/secret squirrel shit, so keep talking out your ass.
Seriously, not sure if you're trolling or if you've gone full retard.
~Rocktar~
08-10-2018, 08:59 PM
He also made a great argument against trump that the dems should seize on. Trump is the CEO president. If a company had a CEO make such shitty hiring decisions constantly he'd be fired. We should fire trump too.
That's nice. We already have that option, every 4 years dumbass.
time4fun
08-10-2018, 10:23 PM
Yeah I'm sorry, but intentionally misrepresenting someone's job and then lambasting them for correcting the record is just trolling and seriously sad.
Find a better use of your time.
Tgo01
08-10-2018, 10:28 PM
Yeah I'm sorry, but intentionally misrepresenting someone's job and then lambasting them for correcting the record is just trolling and seriously sad.
Find a better use of your time.
pk ain't corrected shit. In the past he said his job was to take photographs in the military. And like Taernath said there is nothing wrong with that, but why is he pretending it was more than that now.
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 10:37 PM
pk ain't corrected shit. In the past he said his job was to take photographs in the military. And like Taernath said there is nothing wrong with that, but why is he pretending it was more than that now.
obvious troll is obvious
time4fun
08-10-2018, 10:45 PM
pk ain't corrected shit. In the past he said his job was to take photographs in the military. And like Taernath said there is nothing wrong with that, but why is he pretending it was more than that now.
Oh honey. I think you missed the last line of my post.
Hey, try sounding out the words and moving your mouth as you read. It helps!
cwolff
08-10-2018, 10:49 PM
Yeah.. I'm jealous of.. who exactly? I know Gelston was infantry in the Marines and I think cwolff was surface fleet in the Navy.. other than that I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And these political threads? I've been posting in the politics folder for years now and have never played up credentials/backgrounds/sources/contacts/secret squirrel shit, so keep talking out your ass.
Seriously, not sure if you're trolling or if you've gone full retard.
0311 Marine Reserves. Surface fleet? For real? FML
Taernath
08-10-2018, 11:04 PM
Yeah I'm sorry, but intentionally misrepresenting someone's job and then lambasting them for correcting the record is just trolling and seriously sad.
Find a better use of your time.
See, I was in the military, and I know what his job entails, what Udeid is like, and what life is like there. Qatar is a resort compared to just about anywhere else, and his job != a background in government and journalism. We used to give him good-natured shit for it, but now that he's gone off the deep end, lying and threatening people IRL, it's no longer good-natured. He can get fucked.
I get that he's one of the maybe two people who leap to your defense, but you need to choose your friends better.
time4fun
08-10-2018, 11:05 PM
That's nice. We already have that option, every 4 years dumbass.
We also have another option that can be exercised at any point called impeachment- which was very clearly what he was referring to.
Seriously, you have to TRY to be this wrong all the time. Please tell me you're trying to be this wrong.
time4fun
08-10-2018, 11:07 PM
See, I was in the military, and I know what his job entails, what Udeid is like, and what life is like there. Qatar is a resort compared to just about anywhere else, and his job != a background in government and journalism. We used to give him good-natured shit for it, but now that he's gone off the deep end, lying and threatening people IRL, it's no longer good-natured. He can get fucked.
I get that he's one of the maybe two people who leap to your defense, but you need to choose your friends better.
So a white supremacist who goes into meltdowns about "beta males" and "immigrants" walks into a politics forum and joins forces with a passive racist who says all immigrants are dangerous and an active racist who is like 60 and spends his days harassing people on a forum for a game he hasn't played in like 10 years.
And *I* need to choose my friends better?
Ha.
Ha Ha.
Ha.
Tgo01
08-10-2018, 11:14 PM
So a white supremacist who goes into meltdowns about "beta males" and "immigrants" walks into a politics forum and joins forces with a passive racist who says all immigrants are dangerous and an active racist who is like 60 and spends his days harassing people on a forum for a game he hasn't played in like 10 years.
And *I* need to choose my friends better?
Ha.
Ha Ha.
Ha.
Can you just use names? It's annoying trying to decipher your nonsense.
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 11:14 PM
See, I was in the military, and I know what his job entails, what Udeid is like, and what life is like there. Qatar is a resort compared to just about anywhere else, and his job != a background in government and journalism. We used to give him good-natured shit for it, but now that he's gone off the deep end, lying and threatening people IRL, it's no longer good-natured. He can get fucked.
I get that he's one of the maybe two people who leap to your defense, but you need to choose your friends better.
Get over yourself.
Tgo01
08-10-2018, 11:18 PM
Found the thread I was thinking about:
Hey man, I was just the camera guy. I did have my own sweet ride though, some kind of miniature pickup truck like thing. Fun as hell to tear around base in.
don't be jealous of my mandatory reflective safety belt. :|
The autonomy was one of my favorite things about being a videographer. That and being able to tell generals where to stand and what to say. Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? Yes sir I'm gonna have to ask you to stand over there for this shot..
So yes, pk refers to himself as "the camera guy."
I'm not knocking Androidpk's service in the military, he volunteered and a lot of men and women didn't. I'm knocking the shit he's doing now.
Although I was wrong when I said he was assigned to a higher up for a while, I think I was confusing this post where he just says he met a general and he was impressed with him:
NO PRESSURE
Some of those generals have such a commanding presence. I was stoked when I met this guy.
http://i.imgur.com/6D5WvVF.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/6D5WvVF.jpg)
Taernath
08-10-2018, 11:24 PM
So a white supremacist who goes into meltdowns about "beta males" and "immigrants" walks into a politics forum and joins forces with a passive racist who says all immigrants are dangerous and an active racist who is like 60 and spends his days harassing people on a forum for a game he hasn't played in like 10 years.
And *I* need to choose my friends better?
Ha.
Ha Ha.
Ha.
You're going to need to name names if you want me to respond to anything specific, but I've managed to have political discussions with just about everyone (I think) you've listed. We don't agree a lot and we're not changing each others' views, but we've managed to do it without it resorting to name-calling. With you though, even though we probably share about 80% of our positions, you've routinely called me, implicitly or explicity, a sexist or racist or whatever.
But let's be clear: nobody else on this board has threatened another member IRL. Why do you turn a blind eye to that?
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 11:30 PM
You're going to need to name names if you want me to respond to anything specific, but I've managed to have political discussions with just about everyone (I think) you've listed. We don't agree a lot and we're not changing each others' views, but we've managed to do it without it resorting to name-calling. With you though, even though we probably share about 80% of our positions, you've routinely called me, implicitly or explicity, a sexist or racist or whatever.
But let's be clear: nobody else on this board has threatened another member IRL. Why do you turn a blind eye to that?
Convenient of you to forget all the folks who harassed warclaidhm until he committed suicide. Oh, probably because you were one of them. Go fuck yourself.
Taernath
08-10-2018, 11:33 PM
Convenient of you to forget all the folks who harassed warclaidhm until he committed suicide. Oh, probably because you were one of them. Go fuck yourself.
Wow, people were calling his job trying to get him fired? And threatening to turn over his info to groups that might harm him? That's pretty fucked up!
time4fun
08-10-2018, 11:35 PM
You're going to need to name names if you want me to respond to anything specific, but I've managed to have political discussions with just about everyone (I think) you've listed. We don't agree a lot and we're not changing each others' views, but we've managed to do it without it resorting to name-calling. With you though, even though we probably share about 80% of our positions, you've routinely called me, implicitly or explicity, a sexist or racist or whatever.
But let's be clear: nobody else on this board has threatened another member IRL. Why do you turn a blind eye to that?
Yeah I wasn't referring to you literally at all.
So....maybe you should take a moment to rethink our entire history of interactions.
Tgo01
08-10-2018, 11:36 PM
Convenient of you to forget all the folks who harassed warclaidhm until he committed suicide. Oh, probably because you were one of them. Go fuck yourself.
For someone so against slander you sure do slander a lot of people.
Tgo01
08-10-2018, 11:37 PM
Yeah I wasn't referring to you literally at all.
So....maybe you should take a moment to rethink our entire history of interactions.
You just heavily implied Taernath is friends with at least 3 white supremacists. Why do you have a problem remembering the shit you just said a few minutes ago?
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 11:38 PM
Wow, people were calling his job trying to get him fired? And threatening to turn over his info to groups that might harm him? That's pretty fucked up!
Better to just send rep for years on end telling him to kill himself amongst other things right? Yeah that is fucked up.
Androidpk
08-10-2018, 11:39 PM
For someone so against slander you sure do slander a lot of people.
Irony
Taernath
08-10-2018, 11:45 PM
Yeah I wasn't referring to you literally at all.
So....maybe you should take a moment to rethink our entire history of interactions.
I'm aware of our entire history of interactions, but given the context it seemed like you were trying to reveal some sort of imagined hypocrisy on my part.
I'm also aware, however, that you've again refused to condemn someone threatening IRL violence on someone else just because of their political leanings.
time4fun
08-10-2018, 11:52 PM
I'm aware of our entire history of interactions, but given the context it seemed like you were trying to reveal some sort of imagined hypocrisy on my part.
I'm also aware, however, that you've again refused to condemn someone threatening IRL violence on someone else just because of their political leanings.
So 1) I'm sorry, but I'm not responsible for your inability to separate yourself from white supremacists and xenophobes in your own mind.
and 2) I'm not involved in your strange conversation with PK about Warclaidhm, and it's a really odd thing for you to try to retroactively draw me in and attempt to score phantom points for me not having behaved in a way that would have made no sense given my lack of involvement.
Tgo01
08-10-2018, 11:57 PM
and 2) I'm not involved in your strange conversation with PK about Warclaidhm, and it's a really odd thing for you to try to retroactively draw me in and attempt to score phantom points for me not having behaved in a way that would have made no sense given my lack of involvement.
He's not talking about pk/Warclaidhm and you know it. You are so disingenuous.
Taernath
08-11-2018, 12:14 AM
He's not talking about pk/Warclaidhm and you know it. You are so disingenuous.
Trying to get a straight answer out of time4fun:
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Neveragain
08-11-2018, 12:15 AM
So 1) I'm sorry, but I'm not responsible for your inability to separate yourself from white supremacists and xenophobes in your own mind.
and 2) I'm not involved in your strange conversation with PK about Warclaidhm, and it's a really odd thing for you to try to retroactively draw me in and attempt to score phantom points for me not having behaved in a way that would have made no sense given my lack of involvement.
You're a fucking nutcase, no seriously, you have some serious fucking issues. If all the nut bags in gemstone were gathered in a pile, you would be at the top of the pile. Over the collective years that's a pretty fucking big pile and you're totally like standing at the top of Crazy Bitch mountain holding the golden nut award.
Gelston
08-11-2018, 01:26 AM
See, I was in the military, and I know what his job entails, what Udeid is like, and what life is like there. Qatar is a resort compared to just about anywhere else, and his job != a background in government and journalism. We used to give him good-natured shit for it, but now that he's gone off the deep end, lying and threatening people IRL, it's no longer good-natured. He can get fucked.
I get that he's one of the maybe two people who leap to your defense, but you need to choose your friends better.
We took R&R to Qatar from Iraq.
Gelston
08-11-2018, 01:33 AM
I've known a lot of videographers and PAO people while I was in. Mostly when I was at my Non-Deployable unit, MarForPac G3. The majority of them never deployed, or if they did it was to Kroea for UFL or RSO&I. They'd take pictures and update the news articles on the website.
I did see a few when i was in Iraq and Afghanistan, but only when we were setting up a clinic or some bull shit so we could have the happy feel good hearts and minds stories.
One was supposed to stay the week for us at the PB, but they didn't like the "Bathroom facilities" we had so they left the next day. We had 4 women staying on the PB with us (called the FET) and they didn't mind it at all. Guess they had bigger balls than this PAO dude.
Methais
08-11-2018, 01:42 AM
So 1) I'm sorry, but I'm not responsible for your inability to separate yourself from white supremacists and xenophobes in your own mind.
and 2) I'm not involved in your strange conversation with PK about Warclaidhm, and it's a really odd thing for you to try to retroactively draw me in and attempt to score phantom points for me not having behaved in a way that would have made no sense given my lack of involvement.
You really should wash your asshole more often it’ll help your breath smell not quite as bad.
Methais
08-11-2018, 03:45 AM
Better to just send rep for years on end telling him to kill himself amongst other things right? Yeah that is fucked up.
Except that’s not at all what happened and only the most extreme idiots try to say it is. You really should go fuck off somewhere and eat a dick sandwich.
Parkbandit
08-11-2018, 11:32 AM
So a white supremacist who goes into meltdowns about "beta males" and "immigrants" walks into a politics forum and joins forces with a passive racist who says all immigrants are dangerous and an active racist who is like 60 and spends his days harassing people on a forum for a game he hasn't played in like 10 years.
And *I* need to choose my friends better?
Ha.
Ha Ha.
Ha.
Just 2 years ago, you were giving Androidpk more shit than anyone and he was returning the favor.
What happened? Oh right... bipolAndroidpk switched teams and suddenly he's brilliant and your friend.
Piece of shit is still a piece of shit.
Parkbandit
08-11-2018, 11:34 AM
You're going to need to name names if you want me to respond to anything specific, but I've managed to have political discussions with just about everyone (I think) you've listed. We don't agree a lot and we're not changing each others' views, but we've managed to do it without it resorting to name-calling. With you though, even though we probably share about 80% of our positions, you've routinely called me, implicitly or explicity, a sexist or racist or whatever.
But let's be clear: nobody else on this board has threatened another member IRL. Why do you turn a blind eye to that?
Fuck off hippie.
Parkbandit
08-11-2018, 11:37 AM
Convenient of you to forget all the folks who harassed warclaidhm until he committed suicide. Oh, probably because you were one of them. Go fuck yourself.
Harassment on a forum or in a game is one thing.
It crosses a solid red line to sociopath when you look into them RL and then threaten to get them fired or worse.
You are a sociopathic piece of shit. This has been solidly established already.
time4fun deserves you as a good friend. I'm sure it'll be fine..... It's only a matter of time before you "msconstrew" her into making bad decisions and inevitably making you cry.
Parkbandit
08-11-2018, 11:43 AM
Better to just send rep for years on end telling him to kill himself amongst other things right? Yeah that is fucked up.
Who did that specifically?
Remember when you accused me of doing that to you.. but couldn't find a single instance? Yea... good times.
Parkbandit
08-11-2018, 11:44 AM
He's not talking about pk/Warclaidhm and you know it. You are so disingenuous.
You spelled retarded wrong.
reported.
Taernath
08-11-2018, 12:08 PM
I've known a lot of videographers and PAO people while I was in. Mostly when I was at my Non-Deployable unit, MarForPac G3. The majority of them never deployed, or if they did it was to Kroea for UFL or RSO&I. They'd take pictures and update the news articles on the website.
I did see a few when i was in Iraq and Afghanistan, but only when we were setting up a clinic or some bull shit so we could have the happy feel good hearts and minds stories.
One was supposed to stay the week for us at the PB, but they didn't like the "Bathroom facilities" we had so they left the next day. We had 4 women staying on the PB with us (called the FET) and they didn't mind it at all. Guess they had bigger balls than this PAO dude.
We escorted Combat Camera and PAO guys a lot while I was in Baghdad and later Diwaniyah, and yeah, it was entirely puff pieces about how good the Army was doing or how well the police were being trained. They were nice enough, but a little weird. Never seen a videographer though. I think the Army was talking about merging them all (CC, PAO, videographers) under Signal as one unified MOS.
Fuck off hippie.
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time4fun
08-11-2018, 12:31 PM
Trying to get a straight answer out of time4fun:
https://media.giphy.com/media/twpYnBnUobHRm/giphy.gif
You might try asking a straight question. It helps.
Methais
08-11-2018, 01:02 PM
You might try asking a straight question. It helps.
That has happened several times too. You just ignore or deflect the ones where answering honestly would land your foot in your mouth.
Literally everyone here has known this forever, the only possible exception being soywolff because I mean just look at him.
Even pk knows, though he won’t admit it until his political bipolar swings in a direction that has you shitting in each others’ mouths again.
I mean in a different way than how you’re shitting in each others’ mouths now, of course.
Androidpk
08-11-2018, 01:40 PM
apparently wanting to hold both political parties to the same standard is bipolar :lol:
Tgo01
08-11-2018, 01:45 PM
apparently wanting to hold both political parties to the same standard is bipolar :lol:
No it's the fact that you shit on Obama a little bit while he was president and hardly mentioned Republicans, then you shit on Hillary a lot during the elections but didn't have much to say about Trump, and now you've gone full blown butt hurt/Trump Derangement Syndrome over Trump and you never have any comments for the fucked up shit Democrats do.
It's like you can only be pissed at one political party at a time yet you pretend you're some sort of centrist.
Yeah I give Democrats more shit than Republicans but that's because I fully admit I lean more right. I don't pretend I'm something I'm not.
Neveragain
08-11-2018, 01:50 PM
apparently wanting to hold both political parties to the same standard is bipolar :lol:
So you agree, Bernie Sanders should step down?
Androidpk
08-11-2018, 01:54 PM
So you agree, Bernie Sanders should step down?
If he's convicted of a serious crime absolutely.
Androidpk
08-11-2018, 01:55 PM
No it's the fact that you shit on Obama a little bit while he was president and hardly mentioned Republicans, then you shit on Hillary a lot during the elections but didn't have much to say about Trump, and now you've gone full blown butt hurt/Trump Derangement Syndrome over Trump and you never have any comments for the fucked up shit Democrats do.
It's like you can only be pissed at one political party at a time yet you pretend you're some sort of centrist.
Yeah I give Democrats more shit than Republicans but that's because I fully admit I lean more right. I don't pretend I'm something I'm not.
I gave Obama a ton of shit. I even made posts specifically criticizing him. Try harder troll.
Tgo01
08-11-2018, 02:02 PM
I gave Obama a ton of shit. I even made posts specifically criticizing him. Try harder troll.
I said you shit on Obama a little bit, but it was nothing compared to the shit you are giving Trump.
You've been pretty consistent in your hated of Hillary over the years. But that's about the only thing you've been consistent at.
You supported Ron Paul AND Bernie Sanders, they are about as far apart politically as two people can get yet you supported them both just because they were the "outsiders."
Androidpk
08-11-2018, 02:04 PM
I said you shit on Obama a little bit, but it was nothing compared to the shit you are giving Trump.
You've been pretty consistent in your hated of Hillary over the years. But that's about the only thing you've been consistent at.
You supported Ron Paul AND Bernie Sanders, they are about as far apart politically as two people can get yet you supported them both just because they were the "outsiders."
I shit on Obama a lot. Try harder troll. Fucking pathetic.
Tgo01
08-11-2018, 02:05 PM
I shit on Obama a lot. Try harder troll. Fucking pathetic.
Really? You spent months fantasizing about Obama being arrested and saying he should be impeached?
Androidpk
08-11-2018, 02:13 PM
Really? You spent months fantasizing about Obama being arrested and saying he should be impeached?
https://media1.tenor.com/images/c924b622b71a51d0c4aa21760c69b9f3/tenor.gif
try harder troll
Tgo01
08-11-2018, 02:15 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/c924b622b71a51d0c4aa21760c69b9f3/tenor.gif
try harder troll
Exactly. I said you shit on Obama a little bit, but it's nothing compared to what you've done to Trump or Republicans while Trump has been president. And here you are proving my point but claiming I'm moving the goal posts.
Such a sad little man.
Wrathbringer
08-11-2018, 02:20 PM
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try harder troll
Go away you tard.
time4fun
08-11-2018, 02:45 PM
Really? You spent months fantasizing about Obama being arrested and saying he should be impeached?
Yeah, I mean why didn't we hear more about impeachment when Obama was caught colluding with a foreign enemy to throw an election and then tried to cover their tracks by abusing Presidential powers???
Oh wait.
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