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ClydeR
07-16-2018, 10:38 PM
Gingrich tweeted..


President Trump must clarify his statements in Helsinki on our intelligence system and Putin. It is the most serious mistake of his presidency and must be corrected—-immediately.

More... (https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/1018967261418344450)


Romney tweeted..


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiQdH-wV4AApg3-.jpg

More... (https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/1018971562098200576)


Here's the relevant part of Trump's answers..


REPORTER, JEFF MASON, REUTERS: Thank you. Mr. President, you tweeted this morning that it's U.S. foolishness, stupidity, and the Mueller probe that is responsible for the decline in U.S. relations with Russia. Do you hold Russia at all accountable or anything in particular? And if so, what would you what would you consider them that they are responsible for?

TRUMP: Yes I do. I hold both countries responsible. I think that the United States has been foolish. I think we've all been foolish. We should have had this dialogue a long time ago, a long time frankly before I got to office. And I think we're all to blame.

I think that the United States now has stepped forward, along with Russia, and we're getting together and we have a chance to do some great things, whether it's nuclear proliferation in terms of stopping, have to do it, ultimately that's probably the most important thing that we can be working on.

But I do feel that we have both made some mistakes. I think that the, the probe is a disaster for our country. I think it's kept us apart, it's kept us separated.

There was no collusion at all. Everybody knows it. People are being brought out to the fore. So far that I know virtually none of it related to the campaign.

And they're gonna have to try really hard to find somebody that did relate to the campaign. That was a clean campaign. I beat Hillary Clinton easily and frankly we beat her.

And I'm not even saying from the standpoint...we won that race. And it's a shame that there can even be a little bit of a cloud over it. People know that. People understand it. But the main thing and we discussed this also is zero collusion and it has had a negative impact upon the relationship of the two largest nuclear powers in the world.

We have 90 percent of nuclear power between the two countries. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous what's going on with the probe.

More... (https://www.npr.org/2018/07/16/629462401/transcript-president-trump-and-russian-president-putins-joint-press-conference)



REPORTER, AP: President Trump, you first. Just now, President Putin denied having anything to do with the election interference in 2016. Every U.S. intelligence agency has concluded that Russia did. My first question for you sir is, who do you believe? My second question is would you now, with the whole world watching, tell President Putin, would you denounce what happened in 2016 and would you want him to never do it again?

TRUMP: So let me just say that we have two thoughts. You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server. Why haven't they taken the server? Why was the FBI told to leave the office of the Democratic National Committee?

I've been wondering that. I've been asking that for months and months and I've been tweeting it out and calling it out on social media. Where is the server? I want to know where is the server and what is the server saying?

With that being said, all I can do is ask the question.

My people came to me, Dan Coates, came to me and some others they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia.

I will say this: I don't see any reason why it would be. But I really do want to see the server but I have, I have confidence in both parties.

I really believe that this will probably go on for a while but I don't think it can go on without finding out what happened to the server. What happened to the servers of the Pakistani gentleman that worked on the DNC?

Where are those servers? They're missing. Where are they? What happened to Hillary Clinton's emails? 33,000 emails gone, just gone. I think in Russia they wouldn't be gone so easily.

I think it's a disgrace that we can't get Hillary Clinton's thirty three thousand e-mails.

I have great confidence in my intelligence people but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today and what he did is an incredible offer.

He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators, with respect to the 12 people. I think that's an incredible offer. Ok? Thank you.


Finally, Putin dodged a question about whether he had compromising information on Trump. After Putin finished, Trump added..


TRUMP: And I have to say if they had it, it would have been out long ago and if anybody watched Peter Strzok testify over the last couple of days and I was in Brussels watching it, it was a disgrace to the FBI, it was a disgrace to our country. And you would say that was a total witch hunt. Thank you very much everybody. Thank you.

ClydeR
07-16-2018, 10:45 PM
If Trump gives Alaska back to Russia, we should get to keep the Palins.

Gelston
07-16-2018, 10:58 PM
I agree, Fallen, he said so dumb shit to Putin.

Parkbandit
07-17-2018, 01:48 PM
Fallen would make a great deal of sense. He used to get so upset when someone called him out on his stupidity.. so he stopped posting in the political section.

With ClydeR, he is "safe" from the meanies.

karnamm
07-17-2018, 02:07 PM
This was truly embarrassing to the USA. To say that our brightest, strongest, and most intelligent people in the world are less accurate than the President of Russia's words is just mind boggling.

Wonder if this fool even realizes that quite a few of these people are ex military and supporters of him. He probably is too oblivious to this.

ClydeR
07-17-2018, 03:32 PM
Would or Wouldn't?


President Donald Trump attempted on Tuesday to clarify his widely criticized comments in Helsinki, saying that he had misspoken when he said a day earlier that he did not see why Russia would have meddled in the election. Trump said Tuesday he meant to say he did not see any reason why it wouldn't have been Russia that interfered.

"I thought that I made myself very clear, but having just reviewed the transcript I realized that there is a need for some clarification," Trump said Tuesday at the White House. "The sentence should have been...'I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be Russia'."

More... (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/24-hours-later-trump-claims-he-misspoke-helsinki-meant-say-n892166)

If you can find Trump's full statement today, you'll see that he cast doubt on the correctness of the transcript. Did he actually say would or wouldn't in the press conference? The relevant portion of the transcript is below. What do you think?




REPORTER, AP: President Trump, you first. Just now, President Putin denied having anything to do with the election interference in 2016. Every U.S. intelligence agency has concluded that Russia did. My first question for you sir is, who do you believe? My second question is would you now, with the whole world watching, tell President Putin, would you denounce what happened in 2016 and would you warn him to never do it again?

TRUMP: So let me just say that we have two thoughts. You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server. Why haven't they taken the server? Why was the FBI told to leave the office of the Democratic National Committee?

I've been wondering that. I've been asking that for months and months and I've been tweeting it out and calling it out on social media. Where is the server? I want to know where is the server and what is the server saying?

With that being said, all I can do is ask the question.

My people came to me, Dan Coates, came to me and some others they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia.

I will say this: I don't see any reason why it would be. But I really do want to see the server but I have, I have confidence in both parties.

I really believe that this will probably go on for a while but I don't think it can go on without finding out what happened to the server. What happened to the servers of the Pakistani gentleman that worked on the DNC?

Where are those servers? They're missing. Where are they? What happened to Hillary Clinton's emails? 33,000 emails gone, just gone. I think in Russia they wouldn't be gone so easily.

I think it's a disgrace that we can't get Hillary Clinton's thirty three thousand e-mails.

I have great confidence in my intelligence people but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today and what he did is an incredible offer.

He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators, with respect to the 12 people. I think that's an incredible offer. Ok? Thank you.

More... (https://www.npr.org/2018/07/16/629462401/transcript-president-trump-and-russian-president-putins-joint-press-conference)

cwolff
07-17-2018, 03:39 PM
weak sauce ˈwēkˌsôs/ US informal noun

weaksauce"I said the word ‘would’ instead of ‘wouldn’t’ ... The sentence should have been: 'I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be Russia’”

Androidpk
07-17-2018, 04:59 PM
Would or Wouldn't?



If you can find Trump's full statement today, you'll see that he cast doubt on the correctness of the transcript. Did he actually say would or wouldn't in the press conference? The relevant portion of the transcript is below. What do you think?

Stable genius, folks.

Tgo01
07-17-2018, 05:01 PM
I'm willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt just like Democrats gave Bill Clinton the benefit of the doubt over his definition of the word "is."

Androidpk
07-17-2018, 05:09 PM
I'm willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt just like Democrats gave Bill Clinton the benefit of the doubt over his definition of the word "is."

Bill Clinton was universally ridiculed over that. Your whataboutisms are as impotent as Trump.

Wrathbringer
07-17-2018, 05:13 PM
Bill Clinton was universally ridiculed over that. Your whataboutisms are as impotent as I am.

ftfy

SHAFT
07-17-2018, 05:13 PM
Bill Clinton was universally ridiculed over that. Your whataboutisms are as impotent as Trump.

Beware

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Parkbandit
07-18-2018, 10:31 AM
Beware



You keep warning people about going "into the vortex", yet you're still here?

Did mommy buy you an extra large box of tissues?

Methais
07-18-2018, 03:13 PM
You keep warning people about going "into the vortex", yet you're still here?

Did mommy buy you an extra large box of tissues?

Saying things that make sense isn’t either of their strengths.

Parkbandit
07-18-2018, 05:21 PM
Saying things that make sense isn’t either of their strengths.

Do you have a video of him actually posting it?

Then STFU!

Methais
07-19-2018, 01:22 PM
Do you have a video of him actually posting it?

Then STFU!

I do have a video. For the purpose of avoiding IPs being subpoenaed, I've added a cartoon filter to it:

https://media.tenor.com/images/1fec01e1780fe14166290177d735d85e/tenor.gif