View Full Version : Trump says he's going to sign a measure to keep migrant families together
RichardCranium
06-20-2018, 12:23 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-says-hes-going-to-sign-a-preemptive-measure-to-keep-migrant-families-together.html
President Donald Trump on Wednesday signaled that he plans to sign an executive action designed to keep families together during detention on the U.S.-Mexico border.
"I'll be signing something in a little while that's going to do that," he told reporters during an event at the White House, after saying he wanted families to be kept together. "I'll be doing something that's somewhat preemptive and ultimately will be matched by legislation I'm sure," he said.
There's more in the link.
Sooooo, how does this work? Does the Ninth Circuit hit him with a C&D now?
time4fun
06-20-2018, 12:36 PM
No- everyone just sits there in stunned silence at a guy who is so committed to his lie that this wasn't all his doing that he's actually making a big production of undoing himself to make it look like it wasn't his idea all along.
And so we're clear- you don't get brownie points for changing your mind about tearing families apart for political gain.
Gelston
06-20-2018, 12:37 PM
Good, it was costing 23 grand a year to house each one.
I'm glad he is finally shedding this one faucet of Obama era immigration policy.
Neveragain
06-20-2018, 12:46 PM
Sadly we are forced to watch a president use executive order in place of a spineless congress. Time to whip out the executive pen and end the wanted murder of children.
cwolff
06-20-2018, 12:50 PM
No- everyone just sits there in stunned silence at a guy who is so committed to his lie that this wasn't all his doing that he's actually making a big production of undoing himself to make it look like it wasn't his idea all along.
And so we're clear- you don't get brownie points for changing your mind about tearing families apart for political gain.
Seriously. He'll probably have a signing ceremony and give the pens away to GOP congressmembers then they'll all strain their rotator cuffs patting themselves on the back for half assed solving a problem trump created.
time4fun
06-20-2018, 12:54 PM
Funny how he's been saying for days that this was the Democrats' fault and that only Congress could fix this.
This entire situation has just been painful. What happened to this country and the people in it? At what point did people become so twisted and warped that they started to celebrate tearing babies away from asylum seekers? It's just evil.
And this man was wiling to do this to these people so he could get money to build a god damn wall.
cwolff
06-20-2018, 12:58 PM
Funny how he's been saying for days that this was the Democrats' fault and that only Congress could fix this.
This entire situation has just been painful. What happened to this country and the people in it? At what point did people become so twisted and warped that they started to celebrate tearing babies away from asylum seekers? It's just evil.
And this man was wiling to do this to these people so he could get money to build a god damn wall.
What will Fox say now? Dems are at fault for ruining summer camp for thousands of kids who were enjoying their well deserved time away from Mom and Dad? How are they spinning this utter reversal from "I'm helpless to stop it because of a democrat law" to "I'll just whip out an EO to reverse the policy that I didn't need and EO to simply put in place".
Victory, vindication, and a baby step in the right direction from an increasingly tone-deaf, authoritarian, clueless, ego driven, sell-out-to-Putin administration. We HAVE to keep this admin in check.
Wrathbringer
06-20-2018, 02:38 PM
Victory, vindication, and a baby step in the right direction from an increasingly tone-deaf, authoritarian, clueless, ego driven, sell-out-to-Putin administration. We HAVE to keep this admin in check.
lol again with the retardation. Awesome, Back. Awesome.
Parkbandit
06-20-2018, 02:38 PM
Victory, vindication, and a baby step in the right direction from an increasingly tone-deaf, authoritarian, clueless, ego driven, sell-out-to-Putin administration. We HAVE to keep this admin in check.
You're doing your part! You post your dismay on a text based roleplaying game forum!
WAY TO GO BACKLASH! YOU DID IT!
Fucking retard....
Wrathbringer
06-20-2018, 02:39 PM
Funny how he's been saying for days that this was the Democrats' fault and that only Congress could fix this.
This entire situation has just been painful. What happened to this country and the people in it? At what point did people become so twisted and warped that they started to celebrate tearing babies away from asylum seekers? It's just evil.
And this man was wiling to do this to these people so he could get money to build a god damn wall.
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Parkbandit
06-20-2018, 02:40 PM
Funny how he's been saying for days that this was the Democrats' fault and that only Congress could fix this.
This entire situation has just been painful. What happened to this country and the people in it? At what point did people become so twisted and warped that they started to celebrate tearing babies away from asylum seekers? It's just evil.
And this man was wiling to do this to these people so he could get money to build a god damn wall.
Build the wall... we won't have to worry about these illegals sneaking in and bringing their children.. so President Obama and President Trump can personally abuse them.
.....
Gelston
06-20-2018, 02:41 PM
Victory, vindication, and a baby step in the right direction from an increasingly tone-deaf, authoritarian, clueless, ego driven, sell-out-to-Putin administration. We HAVE to keep this admin in check.
Yeah, I'm glad he is rolling back Obama policies too.
ClydeR
06-20-2018, 02:55 PM
Trump just announced that he is calling off the annual Congressional picnic until Democrats start cooperating.
President Trump on Wednesday said he was calling off the annual congressional picnic scheduled for Thursday evening as his administration grapples with the furor over its hardline practice of separating migrant families crossing at the border.
“I was just walking over to the Oval Office and I said, you know, it doesn't feel right to have a picnic for Congress when we're working on doing something very important,” he said in a meeting with lawmakers at the White House. “It didn't feel exactly right to me.”
The president — who last night attended a high-dollar fundraiser at his Washington hotel — did not specify when the congressional picnic would be rescheduled. “We'll make it another time when things are going extremely well,” he said.
More... (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/20/trump-cancel-congressional-picnic-655696)
RichardCranium
06-20-2018, 03:12 PM
“I was just walking over to the Oval Office and I said, you know, it doesn't feel right to have a picnic for Congress when we're working on doing something very important,” he said in a meeting with lawmakers at the White House. “It didn't feel exactly right to me.”
Incoming in 3...2...1...
Gelston
06-20-2018, 03:21 PM
Now we go back to the Judge's ruling that children can't be held in detention with their parents for over 20 days.
RichardCranium
06-20-2018, 03:30 PM
Thanks Ninth District.
Ashlander
06-20-2018, 04:15 PM
Now we go back to the Judge's ruling that children can't be held in detention with their parents for over 20 days.
So we deport the children now and keep their parents here for trial or whatever?
Gelston
06-20-2018, 04:25 PM
So we deport the children now and keep their parents here for trial or whatever?
I think we'll end up kicking families right back over the border and only charging people without families.
Neveragain
06-20-2018, 04:29 PM
I think we'll end up kicking families right back over the border and only charging people without families.
Then Mexico can display their compassion for these families and take them in........oh wait.
Tgo01
06-20-2018, 04:30 PM
And so we're clear- you don't get brownie points for changing your mind about tearing families apart for political gain.
This right here is why it does no good to ever bow to leftist outrage. They'll never give you credit for when you do the very thing they demand you do.
time4fun
06-20-2018, 04:39 PM
You're doing your part! You post your dismay on a text based roleplaying game forum!
WAY TO GO BACKLASH! YOU DID IT!
Fucking retard....
Um.
You don't even go here.
Gelston
06-20-2018, 04:40 PM
Um.
You don't even go here.
Why no, Mein Fuhrer?
Something I've noticed today, you and cwolff like going around telling people what they can and cannot do. Who the fuck are you? No one, that is who.
And back is a fucking retard.
Neveragain
06-20-2018, 05:10 PM
A preview of the coming American prison system:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7vlNL13jLg
Tgo01
06-20-2018, 05:12 PM
What will Fox say now? Dems are at fault for ruining summer camp for thousands of kids who were enjoying their well deserved time away from Mom and Dad? How are they spinning this utter reversal from "I'm helpless to stop it because of a democrat law" to "I'll just whip out an EO to reverse the policy that I didn't need and EO to simply put in place".
So cwolff cries endlessly about this policy, ignores the fact that Democrat leaders in Congress have said out loud in front of cameras they aren't interested at all in fixing this problem themselves, Trump fixes the problem for them, and cwolff STILL blames Trump and defends Democrats.
cwolff, just stop, my man. I don't know how you soldier on with embarrassing yourself this much. The Democrats in Congress should give you some sort of medal for how much water you carry for them.
Neveragain
06-20-2018, 05:32 PM
Um.
You don't even go here.
You're retarded.
RichardCranium
06-20-2018, 05:43 PM
Told you.
Gelston
06-20-2018, 05:44 PM
Told you.
People will bitch about Trump no matter what he does.
RichardCranium
06-20-2018, 05:46 PM
People will bitch about Trump no matter what he does.
I meant about Necro.
Fortybox
06-20-2018, 05:47 PM
No- everyone just sits there in stunned silence at a guy who is so committed to his lie that this wasn't all his doing that he's actually making a big production of undoing himself to make it look like it wasn't his idea all along.
And so we're clear- you don't get brownie points for changing your mind about tearing families apart for political gain.
You’re fine ripping them from the womb. Stop with the fake outrage.
Tgo01
06-20-2018, 05:52 PM
So you enjoy watching families being torn apart? Yes or no.
"Enjoy"? No.
Understand it is necessary at times because people choose to break laws? Yes.
Parkbandit
06-20-2018, 05:53 PM
Um.
You don't even go here.
I don't take orders from you. Sorry.
I went there. I'll go there again.
Is this where you say I can't post here because I no longer play Gemstone?
Get the fuck out of here with your stupidity.
Wrathbringer
06-20-2018, 05:53 PM
No- everyone just sits there in stunned silence at a guy who is so committed to his lie that this wasn't all his doing that he's actually making a big production of undoing himself to make it look like it wasn't his idea all along.
And so we're clear- you don't get brownie points for changing your mind about tearing families apart for political gain.
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Tgo01
06-20-2018, 05:54 PM
You also don't get credit, or should ever expect credit, for something you caused in the first place and then "fixed".
Trump didn't "cause" it in the first place, he was enforcing laws passed by our congress and he went about it the right way in wanting congress to fix the issue.
Neveragain
06-20-2018, 05:57 PM
Trump didn't "cause" it in the first place, he was enforcing laws passed by our congress and he went about it the right way in wanting congress to fix the issue.
Just wait until one of these kids is raped because they were placed in jail with adults. Oh, it will happen.
time4fun
06-20-2018, 06:12 PM
People will bitch about Trump no matter what he does.
Are you fucking kidding me right now?
He's forcibly tearing away the children of asylum seekers for months on end with no promises of returning them.
The real question here isn't "Why are people complaining?"- it's- what the hell is wrong with you that you're not?
Tgo01
06-20-2018, 06:13 PM
Are you fucking kidding me right now?
He's forcibly tearing away the children of asylum seekers for months on end with no promises of returning them.
The real question here isn't "Why are people complaining?"- it's- what the hell is wrong with you that you're not?
Only in loony time4fun land are all illegal aliens "asylum seekers." Is this the latest fringe leftist narrative floating around?
Tgo01
06-20-2018, 06:15 PM
Hey, Democrats, Peter Fonda Tweeted that someone should rip Barron Trump out of her mother's arms and place him in a cage with pedophiles.
So where's the outrage? Democrats? Hello? Is this thing on?
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/393276-melania-trump-contacted-secret-service-after-peter-fonda-tweets-about
Parkbandit
06-20-2018, 06:16 PM
Are you fucking kidding me right now?
He's forcibly tearing away the children of asylum seekers for months on end with no promises of returning them.
The real question here isn't "Why are people complaining?"- it's- what the hell is wrong with you that you're not?
You're being played for the fool you have always been. You're just a useful tool for the Democrats.
Here's some pics of Obama's "concentration camps for kids".. but I don't remember anyone talking about this the past 8 years when Obama was doing this exact same thing:
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GettyImages-450883216.jpg
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GettyImages-450883206.jpg
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/RTR3UIYE.jpg
Cracks me up.. this pic was actually used for "ZOMGLOOKWHUTTRUMPISDOING2CHILDREN!!!".. except it was taken in 2014............
You're being played like the fool you are.
Get outraged though.. really....
Parkbandit
06-20-2018, 06:17 PM
Only in loony time4fun land are all illegal aliens "asylum seekers." Is this the latest fringe leftist narrative floating around?
Well "open borders" didn't catch on.
"Undocumented workers" wasn't hip enough.
Now, the illegals are "Asylum Seekers" because that sounds amazing.
Neveragain
06-20-2018, 06:23 PM
Hey, Democrats, Peter Fonda Tweeted that someone should rip Barron Trump out of her mother's arms and place him in a cage with pedophiles.
So where's the outrage? Democrats? Hello? Is this thing on?
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/393276-melania-trump-contacted-secret-service-after-peter-fonda-tweets-about
Wtf happened to Peter Fonda?
With that tweet he's giving every reason NOT to place children with adults.
What a fucking clown show.
Candor
06-20-2018, 06:31 PM
Here's some pics of Obama's "concentration camps for kids".. but I don't remember anyone talking about this the past 8 years when Obama was doing this exact same thing:
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GettyImages-450883216.jpg
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GettyImages-450883206.jpg
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/RTR3UIYE.jpg
Thanks for posting this Parkbandit. You're probably off CNN's Christmas card list though.
Parkbandit
06-20-2018, 06:34 PM
Thanks for posting this Parkbandit. You're probably off CNN's Christmas card list though.
I was never on it. :(
Fortybox
06-20-2018, 06:40 PM
I was never on it. :(
Meanwhile time4googleresearch is looking for a counter argument so she can position it as her own.
Fortybox
06-20-2018, 06:43 PM
To be absolutely fair though, the kids in the photo are probably in their early teens. Many of these kids make the trek over the border alone (I know it's sad) and not accompanied by a parent (for exactly the reason that they will be arrested). The Trump administration is forcing small children (toddlers) separation from parents who are present with them (probably because they are too young to make the trek by themselves).
Go away macguyver.
Tgo01
06-20-2018, 06:48 PM
To be absolutely fair though, the kids in the photo are probably in their early teens. Many of these kids make the trek over the border alone (I know it's sad) and not accompanied by a parent (for exactly the reason that they will be arrested). The Trump administration is forcing small children (toddlers) separation from parents who are present with them (probably because they are too young to make the trek by themselves).
Nice rationalizing.
Parkbandit
06-20-2018, 06:49 PM
To be absolutely fair though, the kids in the photo are probably in their early teens. Many of these kids make the trek over the border alone (I know it's sad) and not accompanied by a parent (for exactly the reason that they will be arrested). The Trump administration is forcing small children (toddlers) separation from parents who are present with them (probably because they are too young to make the trek by themselves).
Survey says? WRONG!
Again, from 2014:
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/RTR3UI3R-1.jpg
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/RTR3UI3Q-1.jpg
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GettyImages-450882864.jpg
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/RTR3UJ9V.jpg
Parkbandit
06-20-2018, 06:51 PM
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/RTR3UJA5.jpg
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/RTR3UIBO.jpg
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/RTR3UI4P.jpg
Neveragain
06-20-2018, 07:33 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJJpX6XXUAADdgs.jpg
ClydeR
06-21-2018, 09:12 AM
Earlier this week, DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen held a press conference to address the issue of immigrant children. During the press conference, she said the immigrant boys were being held in the tent camps, but she said she did not know what happened to the girls. Now she knows. The girls have been shipped to Manhattan, where purely by coincidence, Certain People own hotels that need to be cleaned.
“It was jarring to see in the middle of the night,” reporter Josh Robin said Wednesday morning. His story aired video of young girls who were speaking Spanish being led into a facility in East Harlem run by Cayuga Centers around 12:45 a.m. The children, their faces covered with coats, were led out of the building and into cars about an hour later.
More... (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/video-shows-unaccompanied-kids-brought-to-nyc-foster-center-in-dead-of-night_us_5b2a69e4e4b0f0b9e9a787f5)
After her press conference, Nielsen decided to go out to eat at a Mexican restaurant. That didn't go well, as you've probably hard.
Parkbandit
06-21-2018, 09:19 AM
Earlier this week, DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen held a press conference to address the issue of immigrant children. During the press conference, she said the immigrant boys were being held in the tent camps, but she said she did not know what happened to the girls. Now she knows. The girls have been shipped to Manhattan, where purely by coincidence, Certain People own hotels that need to be cleaned.
After her press conference, Nielsen decided to go out to eat at a Mexican restaurant. That didn't go well, as you've probably hard.
I did hard about that. Pieces of shit chanting stupidity while she's out to dinner with her family.
Methais
06-21-2018, 09:21 AM
You're doing your part! You post your dismay on a text based roleplaying game forum!
WAY TO GO BACKLASH! YOU DID IT!
Fucking retard....
HE'S RESISTING WHITE SUPREMACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
Parkbandit
06-21-2018, 09:27 AM
HE'S RESISTING WHITE SUPREMACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
What's that like.. being a sniveling white soyboy in a pretty scarf?
When he says stupid stuff like that.. isn't he appropriating another race's identity???
Reported.
Methais
06-21-2018, 10:38 AM
Are you fucking kidding me right now?
He's forcibly tearing away the children of asylum seekers for months on end with no promises of returning them.
The real question here isn't "Why are people complaining?"- it's- what the hell is wrong with you that you're not?
He signed an executive order to stop that.
The left is still bitching.
Schumer also said he wasn't interested in fixing shit. Where's the outrage over that?
Confirmed that people will bitch about Trump no matter what he does.
Methais
06-21-2018, 11:10 AM
Only in loony time4fun land are all illegal aliens "asylum seekers." Is this the latest fringe leftist narrative floating around?
It's only a matter of time until this happens. Probably before the weekend. And then watch as the cwolffs of the left instantly start doing the same thing within minutes.
Methais
06-21-2018, 11:14 AM
What's that like.. being a sniveling white soyboy in a pretty scarf?
When he says stupid stuff like that.. isn't he appropriating another race's identity???
Reported.
Back and cwolff are both appropriating soy culture, and they should be ashamed.
Jhynnifer
06-21-2018, 05:21 PM
Funny how he's been saying for days that this was the Democrats' fault and that only Congress could fix this.
This entire situation has just been painful. What happened to this country and the people in it? At what point did people become so twisted and warped that they started to celebrate tearing babies away from asylum seekers? It's just evil.
And this man was wiling to do this to these people so he could get money to build a god damn wall.
Oh ffs.... I usually like you, but sometimes you say things that really make me want to shake you. Please stop over-dramatizing the opinions of people who don't agree with you.
I don't agree with letting every single person illegally entering the country stay here, I certainly don't enjoy the idea of my tax money going to not only supporting this, but enabling it to continue. Illegal immigration has to be dealt with, bottom line. Whether people agree that what is happening at the border right now is awful, warranted or somewhere in the middle (where most people actually sit and would discuss if the left- and right-wing idiots screaming their lungs out and trying to trigger one another would actually let us get a word in edgewise.), this fact remains. Our immigration system is broken and we do not do enough to dissuade illegal immigrants from entering our country. Stop calling them asylum seekers, you're over-generalizing here and clouding the facts.
What's going on at the border is unfortunate, it's revealed a flaw in the system, but these people are illegally entering the country... they know it's illegal and yet they put themselves and their families in danger so my sympathy level is fairly low to begin with here.
Gelston
06-21-2018, 05:23 PM
Oh ffs.... I usually like you, but sometimes you say things that really make me want to shake you. Please stop over-dramatizing the opinions of people who don't agree with you.
You shouldn't shake babies.
Jhynnifer
06-21-2018, 05:27 PM
You shouldn't shake babies.
I seriously cannot handle these bleeding-heart liberals anymore, the minute they enter a conversation all reason just goes right out the window and it's an emotional barrage of idiocy. The far right isn't much better, they're all about triggering the shit out of the left... but at least they seem capable of having a reasonable conversation without devolving into hysterics.
Tgo01
06-21-2018, 05:30 PM
The far right isn't much better, they're all about triggering the shit out of the left... but at least they seem capable of having a reasonable conversation without devolving into hysterics.
That's because the far right is a rather fringe element of the right. The far left on the other hand is the mainstream of the party now, it's the non-far left that is the fringe.
Jhynnifer
06-21-2018, 05:32 PM
That's because the far right is a rather fringe element of the right. The far left on the other hand is the mainstream of the party now, it's the non-far left that is the fringe.
They're turning me into a conservative and I don't like it one bit.
Tgo01
06-21-2018, 05:39 PM
They're turning me into a conservative and I don't like it one bit.
I used to struggle with where I fell on some political issues. The left would make some sense, the right would make some sense. Now it's almost too easy to fall in line with the Republican side on almost all issues.
The abortion fight used to be between Republicans wanting to make it more and more restrictive and the left wanting to keep it where it's at. Now you have the right wanting to make it slightly more restrictive whereas the left wants abortion on demand all the way up to and including the minute before the baby is born. It has almost driven me completely to the pro life side and I've been pro choice most of my life.
Illegal immigration used to be something both sides agreed about with the right wanting to secure our borders more and the left wanting to keep things pretty much the same. Now the left wants completely open borders, you have politicians on the left completely supporting the idea of disbanding ICE, and sanctuary cities that literally allow criminal illegal aliens to walk free.
Both sides used to agree racist language was completely disgusting. Now you have the left openly mocking white people with the most racist of language and they are applauded for their "courage."
It's getting completely crazy.
Gelston
06-21-2018, 06:09 PM
They're turning me into a conservative and I don't like it one bit.
You don't need to turn into a conservative. Stay right where you are. Just don't vote based on party lines only and all is well.
Tgo01
06-21-2018, 06:11 PM
You don't need to turn into a conservative. Stay right where you are. Just don't vote based on party lines only and all is well.
Just like a conservative man, telling a woman what to do.
Gelston
06-21-2018, 06:23 PM
Just like a conservative man, telling a woman what to do.
According to the rest of the world I'm a liberal. Conservatism is the US is considered left of center in Europe.
Tgo01
06-21-2018, 06:26 PM
According to the rest of the world I'm a liberal. Conservatism is the US is considered left of center in Europe.
Since when do we Americans listen to the rest of the world?
Gelston
06-21-2018, 06:36 PM
Since when do we Americans listen to the rest of the world?
Maybe one day when they also send people to the moon.
Taernath
06-21-2018, 06:47 PM
According to the rest of the world I'm a liberal. Conservatism is the US is considered left of center in Europe.
No, US liberals are moderates or center left in Europe.
Methais
06-21-2018, 06:54 PM
They're turning me into a conservative and I don't like it one bit.
https://www.redstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/bluewave2018.jpg
Gelston
06-21-2018, 06:54 PM
No, US liberals are moderates or center left in Europe.
Nope, US Conservatives are left of center, liberals are even further left.
After WW2 we had a strong feeling that liberalism won the war, and both parties went left.
Gelston
06-21-2018, 06:57 PM
Here is a fun chart.
https://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/main-qimg-51393332162b793b9416a15548f81203-c.jpeg?quality=80&w=635&h=489
Parkbandit
06-21-2018, 07:12 PM
I seriously cannot handle these bleeding-heart liberals anymore, the minute they enter a conversation all reason just goes right out the window and it's an emotional barrage of idiocy. The far right isn't much better, they're all about triggering the shit out of the left... but at least they seem capable of having a reasonable conversation without devolving into hysterics.
Honestly, they've got farther left than the typical bleeding heart liberal. With them, you can at least have a conversation with.
Todays Democrat Party has been hijacked by the SoyBoys, SJW, Antifa (THIS MEANS ANTI-FACIST BY THE WAY SO YOU KNOW THEY ARE VERY PEACEFUL!), etc.... and if you aren't lock step with them, then you are an alt-right nazi racist.
Taernath
06-21-2018, 07:17 PM
Nope, US Conservatives are left of center, liberals are even further left.
After WW2 we had a strong feeling that liberalism won the war, and both parties went left.
That would mean Europe is further right than we are. That's just not true.
Gelston
06-21-2018, 07:21 PM
That would mean Europe is further right than we are. That's just not true.
But they are. Look at the chart. They have some very socialist programs, sure, but you can also see how state socialism swing right also.
Tgo01
06-21-2018, 07:23 PM
That would mean Europe is further right than we are. That's just not true.
On social and government assistance programs I think Europe is much further left.
I think Gelston is referring to authoritarianism, in which case I can totally see where he's coming from.
The UK just recently arrested and almost jailed someone for recording his girlfriend's dog doing a Nazi salute.
They also recently threw someone in prison for recording Muslim defendants accused of raping children as they were walking into the court house.
Most of Europe is like this.
Taernath
06-21-2018, 07:30 PM
But they are. Look at the chart. They have some very socialist programs, sure, but you can also see how state socialism swing right also.
That chart is the fever dream of some classical liberal/libertarian.
Gelston
06-21-2018, 07:31 PM
On social and government assistance programs I think Europe is much further left.
I think Gelston is referring to authoritarianism, in which case I can totally see where he's coming from.
The UK just recently arrested and almost jailed someone for recording his girlfriend's dog doing a Nazi salute.
They also recently threw someone in prison for recording Muslim defendants accused of raping children as they were walking into the court house.
Most of Europe is like this.
Well, look at what liberalism is. A view holding strongly for liberty and equality. Liberty being key. That is a big thing here in the US. So yeah, the Republican party falls liberal compared to a lot of the more authoritative parties of the world. Just because a state has socialist programs, doesn't mean they are necessary to the left either. It depends on how they are implemented, how they control they citizen's lives, etc.
drauz
06-21-2018, 07:41 PM
They also recently threw someone in prison for recording Muslim defendants accused of raping children as they were walking into the court house.
That is a gross mis-characterization of why he was arrested.
Gelston
06-21-2018, 07:44 PM
That is a gross mis-characterization of why he was arrested.
While it is, they are still a lot more authoritarian than we are.
Tgo01
06-21-2018, 07:46 PM
That is a gross mis-characterization of why he was arrested.
That's exactly what happened. What did I get wrong?
drauz
06-21-2018, 07:53 PM
That's exactly what happened. What did I get wrong?
He was arrested for disregarding a court order to not do exactly what he did. He was potentially prejudicing the outcome of the trials. He was ordered to not do exactly what he was doing, he even mentioned it during his live stream.
If you had said "They also recently threw someone in prison WHILE recording Muslim defendants accused of raping children as they were walking into the court house." you would be correct.
It seems a small distinction but it's not.
Tgo01
06-21-2018, 08:01 PM
He was arrested for disregarding a court order to not do exactly what he did. He was potentially prejudicing the outcome of the trials. He was ordered to not do exactly what he was doing, he even mentioned it during his live stream.
If you had said "They also recently threw someone in prison WHILE recording Muslim defendants accused of raping children as they were walking into the court house." you would be correct.
It seems a small distinction but it's not.
But what he was doing was illegal for everyone, not just because he had been arrested for doing something similar before.
And it's not just because he was filming them in person, all of the UK media was forbidden from reporting on the case anywhere.
I'm not going so far as others to suggest this is all a conspiracy to cover up for Muslim pedophiles, but not even being able to report on the facts of a case is a pretty authoritarian take.
drauz
06-21-2018, 08:16 PM
But what he was doing was illegal for everyone, not just because he had been arrested for doing something similar before.
And it's not just because he was filming them in person, all of the UK media was forbidden from reporting on the case anywhere.
I'm not going so far as others to suggest this is all a conspiracy to cover up for Muslim pedophiles, but not even being able to report on the facts of a case is a pretty authoritarian take.
I am not opposed to not releasing the names of people for crimes such as these. It puts a stigma on them. He could have taken the legal route like a reporter did to review the media blackout put on Robinson's trial.
I remember hearing somewhere that even just leveling an accusation of rape, murder, racism, etc is enough to convince 50% of the people listening that they are guilty (without even hearing any facts). I can understand why there is law regarding this and I kinda wish we had that here in the US.
I think his problem is that he specifically named all the defendants. Maybe I'm way off base.
Parkbandit
06-21-2018, 08:22 PM
They're turning me into a conservative and I don't like it one bit.
And now you understand why Trump was elected.
And the Democrats haven't learned anything. They are still blaming it on Comey, Russia, etc...
RichardCranium
06-22-2018, 12:15 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/exclusive-theyre-together-and-theyre-safe-father-of-honduran-two-year-old-who-became-the-face-of-the-family-separation-crisis-when-she-was-photographed-in-tears-as-her-mother-was-searched-by-us-border-control-speaks-out/ar-AAyYopn
In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com, Hernandez, who lives in Puerto Cortes, Honduras, says that he was told yesterday that his wife and child are being detained at a family residential center in Texas but are together and are doing 'fine.'
'You can imagine how I felt when I saw that photo of my daughter. It broke my heart. It's difficult as a father to see that, but I know now that they are not in danger. They are safer now than when they were making that journey to the border,' he said.
Denis said his wife and daughter were never separated by border control agents and remain together.
Paula Reid
? @PaulaReidCBS
NEW: Surprising story behind the viral photo of a toddler crying along the border. @ICEgov says it did not separate the family. The mother, Sandra Maria Sanchez, was illegally re-entering the US after she was previously deported in 2013. @CBSThisMorning @DavidBegnaud
Gelston
06-22-2018, 12:39 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/exclusive-theyre-together-and-theyre-safe-father-of-honduran-two-year-old-who-became-the-face-of-the-family-separation-crisis-when-she-was-photographed-in-tears-as-her-mother-was-searched-by-us-border-control-speaks-out/ar-AAyYopn
Her reentry is a felony.
RichardCranium
06-22-2018, 12:40 PM
I was told that Trump decries the media because he is a dictator.
Methais
06-22-2018, 12:57 PM
I was told that Trump decries the media because he is a dictator.
Chuck Schumer: We're not gonna do shit about this. Trump can do it via EO if he wants.
Trump signs EO.
Chuck Schumer, probably: OMG TRUMP IS BEING A DICTATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jhynnifer
06-22-2018, 02:58 PM
Paula Reid ? @PaulaReidCBS NEW: Surprising story behind the viral photo of a toddler crying along the border. @ICEgov says it did not separate the family. The mother, Sandra Maria Sanchez, was illegally re-entering the US after she was previously deported in 2013. @CBSThisMorning @DavidBegnaud
This whole thing was absolutely ridiculous and shows just how skewed and broken the entire media is. They took time out of their 2 hours of detainee coverage this morning to actually speak the border patrol officer who patted the woman down AND the man who took the picture. Turns out, yep they were never separated and the girl was out of her mother's arms for about 10m while she was patted down.
Every single time something like this gets blown out of proportion you lose credibility in your argument about the "horrors of what's going on down there." It reeks of the boy who cried wolf, but hey this is the new journalistic integrity at its finest, so hurray.
Neveragain
06-22-2018, 03:43 PM
This whole thing was absolutely ridiculous and shows just how skewed and broken the entire media is. They took time out of their 2 hours of detainee coverage this morning to actually speak the border patrol officer who patted the woman down AND the man who took the picture. Turns out, yep they were never separated and the girl was out of her mother's arms for about 10m while she was patted down.
Every single time something like this gets blown out of proportion you lose credibility in your argument about the "horrors of what's going on down there." It reeks of the boy who cried wolf, but hey this is the new journalistic integrity at its finest, so hurray.
Never trust a media source that considered that a worm hole could be the reason for a missing airliner, just a say'n.
Tgo01
06-22-2018, 03:48 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/exclusive-theyre-together-and-theyre-safe-father-of-honduran-two-year-old-who-became-the-face-of-the-family-separation-crisis-when-she-was-photographed-in-tears-as-her-mother-was-searched-by-us-border-control-speaks-out/ar-AAyYopn
Seems pretty obvious the press doesn't care one bit about facts anymore. Even when called out on their obvious bullshit the most they'll do is post a one sentence retraction buried between multiple paragraph long stories about how evil Trump is.
I guess I can't blame them too much, people like cwolff eat that shit up and aren't interested in facts at all.
Methais
06-22-2018, 03:53 PM
It reeks of the soy who cried cwolff...
Fixed.
Neveragain
06-23-2018, 06:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHiWYFSipoQ
RichardCranium
06-23-2018, 07:41 AM
Why does it feel like some members of this board are avoiding this update?
Parkbandit
06-23-2018, 09:33 AM
Why does it feel like some members of this board are avoiding this update?
Motherjones.com said they can relax just a little.. but BLUE WAVE 2018!!!!!!!!
Neveragain
06-23-2018, 04:20 PM
Why does it feel like some members of this board are avoiding this update?
Admittedly it's an extremely difficult moral dilemma, the majority of these people are without a doubt good people and it sucks to see them in this situation. That being said our citizens must come first because it has been/is their blood, sweat and tears that support our country. I think it's very little to ask of these folks that want to become citizens or seek refuge to do it in the manner we ask them to. We want people that are going to contribute to our society and not be a parasite on it. This goes for any illegal alien from any country, especially those limey bastards.
The countries these people are fleeing also have an obligation to the US tax payer for the funding of us opening our home to them. Allowing refuge is not going to end the problem, at a certain point we have a right to intervene in these countries affairs.
Tgo01
06-23-2018, 04:41 PM
Why does it feel like some members of this board are avoiding this update?
It's what they do best when their media outlets are caught in outright lies. They can't possibly admit that maybe there is some truth when Trump says "fake news" so the next best thing is to pretend nothing happened.
cwolff
06-23-2018, 05:59 PM
Why does it feel like some members of this board are avoiding this update?
What's the update? That the picture of the girl shows a kid in distress who wasn't separated from her mother? What moral high ground does that give you? Does that make it excusable that trump has caused such problems with his zero tolerance policy and this fucked up EO to reverse himself even after lying about it for the past few weeks? You have no victory to claim here. It's positively disgusting that you're so mired in your support of trump that you will seize on any excuse, no matter how thin, to defend the guy and defend your fucked up position on the inhumanity he's forcing at the border.
Tgo01
06-23-2018, 06:14 PM
What's the update? That the picture of the girl shows a kid in distress who wasn't separated from her mother? What moral high ground does that give you?
Maybe you can go ahead and call out the fake media when it happens instead of burying your head in the ground? Or maybe at least stop celebrating when a white person dies. Either or.
~Rocktar~
06-23-2018, 06:26 PM
What's the update? That the picture of the girl shows a kid in distress who wasn't separated from her mother? What moral high ground does that give you? Does that make it excusable that trump has caused such problems with his zero tolerance policy and this fucked up EO to reverse himself even after lying about it for the past few weeks? You have no victory to claim here. It's positively disgusting that you're so mired in your support of trump that you will seize on any excuse, no matter how thin, to defend the guy and defend your fucked up position on the inhumanity he's forcing at the border.
It's positively disgusting that you will seize on every opportunity real or imagined to cry crocodile tears over something that has gone on for decades in an effort to attack Trump because you are a childish sore loser. It is also repugnant that you continue to support ignoring the law, support destructive policies and flat out socialism because you want the US to fail. Please self deport to anywhere else you think is a better place to live.
RichardCranium
06-23-2018, 08:36 PM
What's the update? That the picture of the girl shows a kid in distress who wasn't separated from her mother? What moral high ground does that give you? Does that make it excusable that trump has caused such problems with his zero tolerance policy and this fucked up EO to reverse himself even after lying about it for the past few weeks? You have no victory to claim here. It's positively disgusting that you're so mired in your support of trump that you will seize on any excuse, no matter how thin, to defend the guy and defend your fucked up position on the inhumanity he's forcing at the border.
Number one, it's hilarious that you believe I'm "mired in support of trump." Number two, my point wasn't to claim victory or make excuses. Weren't you just claiming that Trump is only against the media because he wants to be a dictator? It couldn't be because the media will has seemed intent to create the news rather than report it for years now, could it?
Neveragain
06-23-2018, 08:51 PM
What's the update? That the picture of the girl shows a kid in distress who wasn't separated from her mother? What moral high ground does that give you? Does that make it excusable that trump has caused such problems with his zero tolerance policy and this fucked up EO to reverse himself even after lying about it for the past few weeks? You have no victory to claim here. It's positively disgusting that you're so mired in your support of trump that you will seize on any excuse, no matter how thin, to defend the guy and defend your fucked up position on the inhumanity he's forcing at the border.
Cwolff: Sign an EO!
God Emperor Trump: I can't, it won't work.
Cwolff: Yes you can!
God Emperor Trump: I can't, it's congress's job.
Cwolff: Yes you can!
God Emperor Trump: It won't work, congress has to do it.
Cwolff: But concentration camps and stuff, Hitler!
God Emperor Trump: Fine you miserable idiot.
Cwolff: It doesn't work, you must be Satan, old white people must die!
https://media2.giphy.com/media/AThjlGSEZGVS8/giphy.gif
Methais
06-24-2018, 04:37 AM
cwolff being in a nonstop state of triggered and having zero control over his soy fueled estrogen driven emotions is great.
Neveragain
06-24-2018, 05:56 AM
cwolff being in a nonstop state of triggered and having zero control over his soy fueled estrogen driven emotions is great.
This latest episode is a perfect example of why we don't use the popular vote.
My first memories of watching the news are from when we were exiting Vietnam. Growing up, sitting down with dad to watch the evening news was a daily ritual. I don't recall anything like this bullshit at all, this goes far beyond the medias instigating events like Kent state.
It's difficult to even watch anymore, not only is it fake news, they are terrible at making fake news. I mean who uses a pic from 4 years ago? Hell it was known clear back in May that the "caged children" picture was from the Obama era. People seriously need to shut off the TV and go outside. Even better, go to the library and read some history books. This knee jerk reaction we have been using over the past 20 years to use executive order needs to stop, it's getting stupid dangerous.
Parkbandit
06-24-2018, 12:35 PM
cwolff being in a nonstop state of triggered and having zero control over his soy fueled estrogen driven emotions is great.
This is correct.
~Rocktar~
06-24-2018, 01:16 PM
It's positively disgusting that you will seize on every opportunity real or imagined to cry crocodile tears over something that has gone on for decades in an effort to attack Trump because you are a childish sore loser. It is also repugnant that you continue to support ignoring the law, support destructive policies and flat out socialism because you want the US to fail. Please self deport to anywhere else you think is a better place to live.
OH, and it may be possible that we could take up a collection to help you self deport or maybe start a gofundme as long as you renounce your citizenship and that of any immediate family that goes with you along the way.
Neveragain
06-25-2018, 07:46 AM
https://www.firesofheaven.org/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F0pv4jhy1 82611.jpg&hash=d01947965c630c7c592535f2c97d456e
Methais
06-25-2018, 08:06 AM
https://www.firesofheaven.org/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F0pv4jhy1 82611.jpg&hash=d01947965c630c7c592535f2c97d456e
In before cwolff "How can you just blindly accept this propaganda? Obviously whoever is behind Red Cross's twitter is a Trump fanatic. How can you look at yourself in the mirror knowing that you're ok with Trump banning Red Cross from helping immigrants? How can you be such a heartless self centered racist asshole like that?!?!?!?!"
Its not even 9am Monday morning and here comes Methais with outrage internet memes and talking shit about other PC members.
Are the veins in your neck popping out yet?
Ashlander
06-25-2018, 08:40 AM
Its not even 9am Monday morning and here comes Methais with outrage internet memes and talking shit about other PC members.
Are the veins in your neck popping out yet?
You mean like you're doing right now?
Methais
06-25-2018, 08:44 AM
Its not even 9am Monday morning and here comes Methais with outrage internet memes and talking shit about other PC members.
Are the veins in your neck popping out yet?
Some facts:
- Most normal people are up early during the week. I know for you you're probably still up wasted from the night before piss drunk and shitting yourself again, but most people have jobs that they get up in the morning for. Perhaps some day you'll have one.
- You're retarded.
- The post you're crying about, I responded to a post that was a screenshot of a tweet. Tweets aren't memes. Try to keep up, even though you'll fail miserably like you always do.
- You're even more retarded than the last time I said you were retarded.
- It's not even 9am Monday morning and here comes Backlash too triggered to know what he's talking about but not letting that stop him.
- https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif
ClydeR
06-25-2018, 09:16 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgibcaJVMAANeXh.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgidu1NVMAAc-do.jpg
If you see somebody near the border who looks like they may not be an American, then deport them to Mexico. No judges. No courts. No mess.
How many grammar and spelling errors are in Trump's two tweets above?
Methais
06-25-2018, 09:38 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgibcaJVMAANeXh.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgidu1NVMAAc-do.jpg
If you see somebody near the border who looks like they may not be an American, then deport them to Mexico. No judges. No courts. No mess.
How many grammar and spelling errors are in Trump's two tweets above?
Why haven't you been posting on Latrinsorm lately?
Gelston
06-25-2018, 03:32 PM
Some facts:
- Most normal people are up early during the week. I know for you you're probably still up wasted from the night before piss drunk and shitting yourself again, but most people have jobs that they get up in the morning for. Perhaps some day you'll have one.
- You're retarded.
- The post you're crying about, I responded to a post that was a screenshot of a tweet. Tweets aren't memes. Try to keep up, even though you'll fail miserably like you always do.
- You're even more retarded than the last time I said you were retarded.
- It's not even 9am Monday morning and here comes Backlash too triggered to know what he's talking about but not letting that stop him.
- https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif
You were posting on the PC before 9 am? HOW FUCKING DARE YOU.
Parkbandit
06-25-2018, 05:00 PM
Its not even 9am Monday morning and here comes Methais with outrage internet memes and talking shit about other PC members.
Are the veins in your neck popping out yet?
Are you retarded.. or are you Ganalon?
Methais
06-25-2018, 06:40 PM
You were posting on the PC before 9 am? HOW FUCKING DARE YOU.
Yes. Now I’m curious what the earliest acceptable time is to post, and if it varies based on which day of the week it is.
Help me out Back, I can’t follow your rules if you don’t tell me what they are.
Stupidhead.
Ashlander
06-25-2018, 06:45 PM
Stupidhead.
Why ya gotta keep talking shit man.....
Methais
06-25-2018, 07:20 PM
Why ya gotta keep talking shit man.....
https://memegenerator.net/img/images/15937966/sad-michael-jackson-sitting.jpg
Neveragain
06-25-2018, 07:30 PM
Its not even 9am Monday morning and here comes Methais with outrage internet memes and talking shit about other PC members.
Are the veins in your neck popping out yet?
I'm up by at least 5 am every day without an alarm, usually I'm up by 4. I hate wasting daylight hours.
Tgo01
06-25-2018, 08:05 PM
I heard Methais was posting before 9AM in this thread and I had to come over to see if the rumors were true.
The fuck, Methais ?
Methais
06-25-2018, 08:13 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/jPAdK8Nfzzwt2/giphy.gif
Methais
06-25-2018, 08:15 PM
Hey wait. It’s 7:15pm CST. This is way before the next 9am.
The fuck are you people even posting this early for?
Tgo01
06-25-2018, 08:44 PM
Hey wait. It’s 7:15pm CST. This is way before the next 9am.
The fuck are you people even posting this early for?
:(
Neveragain
06-27-2018, 01:28 PM
All of these kids were sick or ill. It might be something as simple as dehydration but often times it was more than that. Much more……..
Such as the 10 year old girl that I flew who had been raped no less than 10 times on her journey. Her private parts torn by the continued trauma inflicted each night of her stay in the dessert. Her screams and cries of mistrust still haunt me to this day when I think about it.
Then there was a little boy who was only 5 years old covered in scabies, flees, and abscesses with a broken jaw from being hit by a smuggler for crying.
http://www.lovewhatmatters.com/i-was-part-of-the-human-rights-violations-taking-place-on-the-border/
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 11:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u4Vlgr2iHs
Fortybox
07-01-2018, 12:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u4Vlgr2iHs
Um, Hillary won the popular vote.
And they aren't illegal immigrants. They are "asylum seekers."
Methais
07-01-2018, 12:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u4Vlgr2iHs
I wonder what Back’s thoughts are on this, because Back hates legal immigrants.
I wonder what Back’s thoughts are on this, because Back hates legal immigrants.
Money well spent. These people are our direct neighbors who just want a better life for themselves and their families. Take them in, add them to the workforce, increase the GDP, and tax them appropriately.
There is no need to be afraid. Stop listening to the promoters of hatred.
Tgo01
07-01-2018, 01:32 PM
Take them in, add them to the workforce, increase the GDP, and tax them appropriately.
Why do so many people believe this stupid bullshit?
"We'll just add them to the workforce and tax them and actually MAKE MONEY OFF OF THEM!"
There are millions of legal American citizens who are looking for work, what makes you think we have enough jobs for illegal aliens?
Not to mention part of the reason so many legal American citizens are out of work is because a lot of illegal aliens are willing to work for less money.
And lastly the vast vast vast VAST majority of illegal aliens either have little education, little job experience, little technical expertise, or a combination of all three.
You just said they "want a better life" for themselves. Typically people who are willing to break the law and go through a dangerous journey for the "chance at a better life" aren't well educated or have a lot of money. Otherwise they could do things the legal route.
Gelston
07-01-2018, 01:33 PM
Why do so many people believe this stupid bullshit?
"We'll just add them to the workforce and tax them and actually MAKE MONEY OFF OF THEM!"
There are millions of legal American citizens who are looking for work, what makes you think we have enough jobs for illegal aliens?
Not to mention part of the reason so many legal American citizens are out of work is because a lot of illegal aliens are willing to work for less money.
And lastly the vast vast vast VAST majority of illegal aliens either have little education, little job experience, little technical expertise, or a combination of all three.
You just said they "want a better life" for themselves. Typically people who are willing to break the law and go through a dangerous journey for the "chance at a better life" aren't well educated or have a lot of money. Otherwise they could do things the legal route.
This was specifically about legal immigrants. I like legal immigrants. Illegal ones should be fired out of a canon back over the border.
Tgo01
07-01-2018, 01:36 PM
This was specifically about legal immigrants. I like legal immigrants. Illegal ones should be fired out of a canon back over the border.
The video is about illegal immigration.
Gelston
07-01-2018, 01:37 PM
The video is about illegal immigration.
The quote was "I wonder what Back’s thoughts are on this, because Back hates legal immigrants."
Videos are gay and political ones are even gayer. Anyone that watches them sucks off redwoods.
Methais
07-01-2018, 01:38 PM
Money well spent. These people are our direct neighbors who just want a better life for themselves and their families. Take them in, add them to the workforce, increase the GDP, and tax them appropriately.
There is no need to be afraid. Stop listening to the promoters of hatred.
Why do you hate legal immigrants?
Methais
07-01-2018, 01:43 PM
The quote was "I wonder what Back’s thoughts are on this, because Back hates legal immigrants."
Videos are gay and political ones are even gayer. Anyone that watches them sucks off redwoods.
That’s because Back doesn’t give a shit about people trying to come here legally getting fucked over by the ones bypassing everything and coming here illegally.
Back thinks people who come here legally need to sit in the back of the bus so those who come here illegally can sit in the front.
Back hates legal immigrants. What a racist.
I've never said that and you know it. Go play your little gotcha games with your Incel alt right butt buddies on reddit or wherever you morons like to cause trouble.
Methais
07-01-2018, 01:46 PM
I've never said that and you know it. Go play your little gotcha games with your Incel alt right butt buddies on reddit or wherever you morons like to cause trouble.
Actions speak louder than words.
Stop being racist against legal immigrants.
Reported. And calling my lawyer.
How long has it been since you’ve been laid, since you’re throwing your new buzzwords around like “incel?”
I just banged my gf like an hour ago. When was the last time you got laid without paying for it or having it involve Kleenex and your waifu plushy?
I like how everything that Back disagrees with is automatically alt-right too. I don’t fuck with reddit or any of that either. I literally just watch how stupid you and people like you act and that’s seriously all that’s needed to know which way to vote.
Back is a Nazi.
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 02:11 PM
Money well spent. These people are our direct neighbors who just want a better life for themselves and their families.
Common sense would be to fix their own country instead of handing it over without a fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk9gFwoswbg
Haha! Dude, stop. You're trying waaaaaay to hard here.
You've taken a turn for the worse over the years, Meth. You used to just post funny gifs. Now you're one of the loudest full on alt right Alex Jones loving conspiracy racist nutjobs on the PC.
Parkbandit
07-01-2018, 02:21 PM
Haha! Dude, stop. You're trying waaaaaay to hard here.
You've taken a turn for the worse over the years, Meth. You used to just post funny gifs. Now you're one of the loudest full on alt right Alex Jones loving conspiracy racist nutjobs on the PC.
You used to post some very thoughtful and intelligent posts that made people notice how smart you are.
Holy shit, I'm just kidding. You aren't Ganalon.. so you must be fucking retarded.
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 02:28 PM
Haha! Dude, stop. You're trying waaaaaay to hard here.
You've taken a turn for the worse over the years, Meth. You used to just post funny gifs. Now you're one of the loudest full on alt right Alex Jones loving conspiracy racist nutjobs on the PC.
It's sad that you're too stupid to not understand the importance of borders and the enforcement of immigration laws.
This is just 1 of countless reasons. Take note of Poland in the end and then ask yourself, why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwlIKNs3bwE
Gelston
07-01-2018, 02:31 PM
It's sad that you're too stupid to not understand the importance of borders and the enforcement of immigration laws.
This is just 1 of countless reasons. Take note of Poland in the end and then ask yourself, why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwlIKNs3bwE
Poland actually lost 1/4th of its tiny population. That graphic is misleading.
Eastern Poland didn't suffer a lot because it was very sparsley populated. The plague required people to transmit. There were hardly any people there.
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 02:42 PM
Poland actually lost 1/4th of its tiny population. That graphic is misleading.
Eastern Poland didn't suffer a lot because it was very sparsley populated. The plague required people to transmit. There were hardly any people there.
During Kazimierz's reign, the Black Death, a pandemic infection, swept across Europe, killing millions. But Poland established quarantines at its borders, and the plague skirted Poland almost entirely.
- Zuchora-Walske, Christine, Poland, North Mankato: ABDO Publishing, 2013.
https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/16699/why-was-poland-spared-from-the-black-death
Gelston
07-01-2018, 02:45 PM
https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/16699/why-was-poland-spared-from-the-black-death
It didn't "skirt it's borders" almost entirely. They lost 25% of their population. It was less than other nations of Europe by a good bit, but it is highly likely the quarantine didn't have shit to do with that. Poland only had like one densely populated area and a colder climate. Read other parts of your link instead of the one part that you agree with.
Methais
07-01-2018, 02:46 PM
Haha! Dude, stop. You're trying waaaaaay to hard here.
You've taken a turn for the worse over the years, Meth. You used to just post funny gifs. Now you're one of the loudest full on alt right Alex Jones loving conspiracy racist nutjobs on the PC.
That must explain why I’ve never followed or given a shit about Alex Jones.
Keep doing your best to change the subject from you being a fascist Nazi under the guise of anti-fascism though. Because the best way to see what idiots like you are is to just listen to what they accuse other people of, because you and your soy buddies are exactly that.
And a little bitch whose last lay was Beth/Maimara from over a decade ago.
What an incel. And a racist.
Back hates legal immigrants.
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 02:52 PM
It didn't "skirt it's borders" almost entirely. They lost 25% of their population. It was less than other nations of Europe by a good bit, but it is highly likely the quarantine didn't have shit to do with that. Poland only had like one densely populated area and a colder climate. Read other parts of your link instead of the one part that you agree with.
I did read it.
Is preventing the spread of illness not one of the primary reasons to enforce immigration flow?
It's sad that you're too stupid to not understand the importance of borders and the enforcement of immigration laws.
This is just 1 of countless reasons. Take note of Poland in the end and then ask yourself, why?
Normally I ignore your ignorant racist ass.
Equating a pandemic in the dark ages to today's immigration policies makes zero sense. If you would just stop and think about shit for a second maybe you wouldn't look like a fool.
Gelston
07-01-2018, 02:58 PM
I did read it.
Is preventing the spread of illness not one of the primary reasons to enforce immigration flow?
They don't really do that anymore. In the early 1900s, sure. They don't have massive hospital quarantines for new arrivals and shit anymore.
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 03:01 PM
Normally I ignore your ignorant racist ass.
Equating a pandemic in the dark ages to today's immigration policies makes zero sense. If you would just stop and think about shit for a second maybe you wouldn't look like a fool.
It makes zero sense................
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AEMKudv5p0
Get a fucking education.
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 03:06 PM
They don't really do that anymore. In the early 1900s, sure. They don't have massive hospital quarantines for new arrivals and shit anymore.
They must be doing something, this is from one of the medical personnel:
"All of these kids were sick or ill. It might be something as simple as dehydration but often times it was more than that. Much more……..
Such as the 10 year old girl that I flew who had been raped no less than 10 times on her journey. Her private parts torn by the continued trauma inflicted each night of her stay in the dessert. Her screams and cries of mistrust still haunt me to this day when I think about it.
Then there was a little boy who was only 5 years old covered in scabies, flees, and abscesses with a broken jaw from being hit by a smuggler for crying."
http://www.lovewhatmatters.com/i-was-part-of-the-human-rights-violations-taking-place-on-the-border/
Gelston
07-01-2018, 03:09 PM
They must be doing something, this is from one of the medical personnel:
That is from the detention centers for captured illegals. They don't do that to legal immigrants.
We used to quarantine and give medical exams to everyone coming in, think Ellis Island. We don't do that anymore.
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 03:13 PM
That is from the detention centers for captured illegals. They don't do that to legal immigrants.
We used to quarantine and give medical exams to everyone coming in, think Ellis Island. We don't do that anymore.
We're not talking about legal immigration, as I would assume to become a legal immigrant one must receive a clean bill of health before coming to the states.
Gelston
07-01-2018, 03:15 PM
We're not talking about legal immigration, as I would assume to become a legal immigrant one must receive a clean bill of health before coming to the states.
You would assume wrong.
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 03:45 PM
You would assume wrong.
"As a test of whether you fall into a health-related ground of inadmissibility, any application for U.S. permanent residency (an immigrant visa through a U.S. consulate overseas or a green card through adjustment of status in the U.S.) or for a fiancé visa will include a medical exam by a doctor approved by the U.S. consulate or U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). This requirement applies to both adult and child applicants, though the exam doctor will take age into account for purposes of things like deciding which vaccines are necessary."
:hammer:
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/fiance-marriage-visa-book/chapter2-3.html
Gelston
07-01-2018, 03:47 PM
"As a test of whether you fall into a health-related ground of inadmissibility, any application for U.S. permanent residency (an immigrant visa through a U.S. consulate overseas or a green card through adjustment of status in the U.S.) or for a fiancé visa will include a medical exam by a doctor approved by the U.S. consulate or U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). This requirement applies to both adult and child applicants, though the exam doctor will take age into account for purposes of things like deciding which vaccines are necessary."
:hammer:
Eh, still, that is for permanent residency. You don't need a health exam to just come to the US. Hell, you can come here for 30 days or less on vacation with just a tourist stamp.
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 03:59 PM
Eh, still, that is for permanent residency. You don't need a health exam to just come to the US. Hell, you can come here for 30 days or less on vacation with just a tourist stamp.
We are talking about immigration.
https://i.imgflip.com/1q6eji.jpg
Gelston
07-01-2018, 04:01 PM
We are talking about immigration.
https://i.imgflip.com/1q6eji.jpg
No, we're talking about the spread of disease across borders. Ebola doesn't give a fuck if you're moving somewhere permanently or just visiting.
That must explain why I’ve never followed or given a shit about Alex Jones.
Keep doing your best to change the subject from you being a fascist Nazi under the guise of anti-fascism though. Because the best way to see what idiots like you are is to just listen to what they accuse other people of, because you and your soy buddies are exactly that.
And a little bitch whose last lay was Beth/Maimara from over a decade ago.
What an incel. And a racist.
Back hates legal immigrants.
Dude, whats with the meltdown? Having a stroke?
Gelston
07-01-2018, 04:07 PM
Dude, whats with the meltdown? Having a stroke?
That isn't a meltdown, you're just fucking retarded.
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 04:12 PM
No, we're talking about the spread of disease across borders. Ebola doesn't give a fuck if you're moving somewhere permanently or just visiting.
It does seem a bit risky to not require a current medical exam to receive a passport.
Hell, we were freaking the fuck out over letting American citizens back in with the last Ebola threat and Back is all like "you're a stupid racist!". Forget the thought that 10's of millions of citizens would be wiped out by some super fucked up flu, short sighted fucks.
That’s because Back doesn’t give a shit about people trying to come here legally getting fucked over by the ones bypassing everything and coming here illegally.
Back thinks people who come here legally need to sit in the back of the bus so those who come here illegally can sit in the front.
Back hates legal immigrants. What a racist.
Actions speak louder than words.
Stop being racist against legal immigrants.
Reported. And calling my lawyer.
How long has it been since you’ve been laid, since you’re throwing your new buzzwords around like “incel?”
I just banged my gf like an hour ago. When was the last time you got laid without paying for it or having it involve Kleenex and your waifu plushy?
I like how everything that Back disagrees with is automatically alt-right too. I don’t fuck with reddit or any of that either. I literally just watch how stupid you and people like you act and that’s seriously all that’s needed to know which way to vote.
Back is a Nazi.
That must explain why I’ve never followed or given a shit about Alex Jones.
Keep doing your best to change the subject from you being a fascist Nazi under the guise of anti-fascism though. Because the best way to see what idiots like you are is to just listen to what they accuse other people of, because you and your soy buddies are exactly that.
And a little bitch whose last lay was Beth/Maimara from over a decade ago.
What an incel. And a racist.
Back hates legal immigrants.
That isn't a meltdown, you're just fucking retarded.
See? You can convey your message in a very simple post. Meth is all adkfsdflking out on his keyboard.
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 04:38 PM
See? You can convey your message in a very simple post. Meth is all adkfsdflking out on his keyboard.
No, it's because you don't give a fuck about legal immigrants, citizens, child prostitution, human trafficking, cartels or terrorists. This all about you thinking with your feelings rather than using your brain and being butthurt over your party being taken over by idiots.
No, it's because you don't give a fuck about legal immigrants, citizens, child prostitution, human trafficking, cartels or terrorists. This all about you thinking with your feelings rather than using your brain and being butthurt over your party being taken over by idiots.
Thats all absolute nonsensical gibberish. Back to ignoring you, you ignorant racist fuck.
Tgo01
07-01-2018, 04:50 PM
Haha! Dude, stop. You're trying waaaaaay to hard here.
You've taken a turn for the worse over the years, Meth. You used to just post funny gifs. Now you're one of the loudest full on alt right Alex Jones loving conspiracy racist nutjobs on the PC.
Says the dude who has "Resist white supremacy" in his signature.
"White supremacy" hasn't been an actual problem in this country in decades, but now suddenly since Trump won the election the left acts like it's the biggest threat not just to the US, but to the entire world. What have you done to "resist" white supremacy exactly, Back?
Neveragain
07-01-2018, 05:08 PM
Thats all absolute nonsensical gibberish. Back to ignoring you, you ignorant racist fuck.
Says the person that wants open borders and thinks pandemic is not a serious threat.
I'm sorry your states education system is so terribly bad.
Parkbandit
07-01-2018, 07:02 PM
What have you done to "resist" white supremacy exactly, Back?
Um, he's spreading the word by having "Resist white supremacy" on his signature line on these forums!
Isn't that enough? You know he's a low energy retard. Cut him some slack.
Methais
07-02-2018, 07:03 AM
Dude, whats with the meltdown? Having a stroke?
Explain how addressing your extreme stupidity = meltdown.
You can’t, so stfu and go cry about Trump into your soy latte some more.
See? You can convey your message in a very simple post. Meth is all adkfsdflking out on his keyboard.
You realize that those were separate posts addressing separate posts of yours right? Do you still not understand how forums work after all these years? It’s ok to admit it. I promise you that nobody here will be surprised.
I literally address each of your massively retarded points that you think you’re making and you label it a meltdown.
Not that we needed more proof of how monumentally retarded you are, but you won’t stop adding to the list.
God damn you’re retarded.
Is this a meltdown too?
Also, Back hates legal immigrants. What a racist.
Wrathbringer
07-02-2018, 07:20 AM
Explain how addressing your extreme stupidity = meltdown.
You can’t, so stfu and go cry about Trump into your soy latte some more.
You realize that those were separate posts addressing separate posts of yours right? Do you still not understand how forums work after all these years? It’s ok to admit it. I promise you that nobody here will be surprised.
I literally address each of your massively retarded points that you think you’re making and you label it a meltdown.
Not that we needed more proof of how monumentally retarded you are, but you won’t stop adding to the list.
God damn you’re retarded.
Is this a meltdown too?
Also, Back hates legal immigrants. What a racist.
He's trying to retake the Championship Belt of Retardation from cloaff, but he's still got a way to go. It's obvious that he's upset about losing his belt, but he's at least making his case as the #1 contender.
eta: just had an idea for a Belt of Retardation in game. It could be a belt that is -10 all stats or something.
Methais
07-02-2018, 02:00 PM
He's trying to retake the Championship Belt of Retardation from goatcwolff.
Fixed.
Wrathbringer
07-02-2018, 02:09 PM
Fixed.
How much would you pay for the belt of retardation in game?
Methais
07-02-2018, 02:45 PM
How much would you pay for the belt of retardation in game?
Get one made and we'll talk numbers and possibly hold a ceremony after goatcwolff and Back duke it out for the championship.
Wrathbringer
07-02-2018, 02:59 PM
Get one made and we'll talk numbers and possibly hold a ceremony after goatcwolff and Back duke it out for the championship.
Ask on the officials if they would make a belt of retardation that was like -20 all stats and a glamour alter to make you look "obviously profoundly retarded" in your feature line. Also see if they'll make it make you hard to understand when you talk. Let me know what they say. You can just post here.
Ashlander
07-02-2018, 05:06 PM
Ask on the officials if they would make a belt of retardation that was like -20 all stats and a glamour alter to make you look "obviously profoundly retarded" in your feature line. Also see if they'll make it make you hard to understand when you talk. Let me know what they say. You can just post here.
Nah it should be a snowflake belt with those stats. The belt of retardation would need like +20 strength and then -20 everything else.
Parkbandit
07-02-2018, 05:51 PM
Get one made and we'll talk numbers and possibly hold a ceremony after goatcwolff and Back girl fight it out for the championship.
ftfy
Wrathbringer
07-02-2018, 08:32 PM
Nah it should be a snowflake belt with those stats. The belt of retardation would need like +20 strength and then -20 everything else.
:lol: I fucking died when I read this. :lol:
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