Nunes Memo Declassified

[RichardCranium]

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/2/16955222/trump-releasethememo

Fox News has it breaking or the past 20 or 30 minutes. I haven't seen any other outlets pick it up yet.


Edited to add link to memo:

https://www.scribd.com/document/370598711/House-Intelligence-Committee-Report-On-FISA-Abuses#from_embed

[Androidpk]

Going to war with the FBI and intelligence community, this will be great for the Trump administration.

[RichardCranium]

Going to war with the FBI and intelligence community, this will be great for the Trump administration.

From what I've gathered it isn't looking good for the DNC and media.

The memo should be released for viewing shortly on the HIC website.

[RichardCranium]

Added link to memo in OP.

[Androidpk]

From what I've gathered it isn't looking good for the DNC and media.

The memo should be released for viewing shortly on the HIC website.

Because of cherry picked intel? It's no wonder they don't want to release the democrat rebuttal.

[ClydeR]

Bombshell! The memo claims that Clinton and the DNC paid part of the cost for the Steele dossier!

[RichardCranium]

Because of cherry picked intel? It's no wonder they don't want to release the democrat rebuttal.

Did you read it? There's no real good way to spin it.

[Androidpk]

Washington, D.C. *– U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ), Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, released the following statement on partisan attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice:

“In 2016, the Russian government engaged in an elaborate plot to interfere in an American election and undermine our democracy. Russia employed the same tactics it has used to influence elections around the world, from France and Germany to Ukraine, Montenegro, and beyond. Putin’s regime launched cyberattacks and spread disinformation with the goal of sowing chaos and weakening faith in our institutions. And while we have no evidence that these efforts affected the outcome of our election, I fear they succeeded in fueling political discord and dividing us from one another.

“The latest attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests – no party’s, no president’s, only Putin’s. The American people deserve to know all of the facts surrounding Russia’s ongoing efforts to subvert our democracy, which is why Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation must proceed unimpeded. Our nation’s elected officials, including the president, must stop looking at this investigation through the warped lens of politics and manufacturing partisan sideshows. If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin’s job for him.”

[RichardCranium]

That's not spin, it's deflection.

[Androidpk]

The only deflection is Nunes cherry picked talking points in order to take heat off Trump in a legitimate investigation.

[Parkbandit]

The only deflection is Nunes cherry picked talking points in order to take heat off Trump in a legitimate investigation.

This should have been in italics.

Oh wait.. you're serious?

LOL.

[RichardCranium]

The only deflection is Nunes cherry picked talking points in order to take heat off Trump in a legitimate investigation.

I've gone on record here as saying Trump is a functioning retard. He's done some good things, he's done some terrible things, and I wish he would shut the fuck up with the tweets.

But you don't really believe what you wrote, do you?

[Androidpk]

I've gone on record here as saying Trump is a functioning retard. He's done some good things, he's done some terrible things, and I wish he would shut the fuck up with the tweets.

But you don't really believe what you wrote, do you?

What's wrong with it? Look who the memo was written by. You're telling me that doesn't send up any red flags for you?

[RichardCranium]

What's wrong with it? Look who the memo was written by. You're telling me that doesn't send up any red flags for you?

Do you believe such a memo would have been made without proof?

[Androidpk]

Do you believe such a memo would have been made without proof?

Considering the source, yes.

[Androidpk]

https://i.imgur.com/82QYTU3.jpg

[RichardCranium]

Call me crazy but coordinating leaks to the media and using said media reports and a fake document created for the DNC to obtain FISA warrants and using FISA as a cover to spy on private citizen, if true, deserves to be made public.

[RichardCranium]

These seem to be the main points of the memo:

1) FBI used dossier to get Page warrant. McCabe admitted under oath that there would have been no case for a warrant without the dossier.

2) Steele was giving the dossier to Yahoo! News and paying them to plant the story. FBI then used that same Yahoo! story in their FISA application claiming it was "corroborating" evidence.

3) Bruce Ohr said that Steele told him that he hated Trump and his goal was to stop Trump by any means necessary.

4) Bill Priestap admitted that the information used for the FISA warrant was not verified whatsoever. Comey later told Trump the same thing in that private meeting (not under oath).

5) FBI knew the dossier was paid for by Clinton and decided not to tell the court that fact.

[Androidpk]

Where's the proof that the Steele dossier is fake? Did Nunes collaborate with the White House in writing this memo? Carter Page was being investigated years before the dossier even came to light.

[Wrathbringer]

derpa derp derp

mmhm...yes...interesting...

[Wrathbringer]

Considering the source, yes.

lol

[Parkbandit]

https://i.imgur.com/82QYTU3.jpg

I think it's painfully obvious that Comey isn't one to be trusted. Plus he's positioning himself for some Democrat elected position.

[Parkbandit]

Where's the proof that the Steele dossier is fake?

I'm really hoping you are pinning all your hopes and dreams on this being real.

That would make me so happy.

[Androidpk]

Plus he's positioning himself for some Democrat elected position.

This may be the stupidest thing you've ever said.

[Androidpk]

I'm really hoping you are pinning all your hopes and dreams on this being real.

That would make me so happy.

I'm not pinning anything on the dossier, just asking him where it was proven to be fake.

[Parkbandit]

So, what specifically in this memo was so dire that the Democrats were pressing it not to be released? That it would jeopardize national security?

[Parkbandit]

This may be the stupidest thing you've ever said.

Wait.. you don't think James Comey wants to hold elected office?

You're adorably naive. I remember when I used to be like that.

I think I was 7.

[cwolff]

These seem to be the main points of the memo:

1) FBI used dossier to get Page warrant. McCabe admitted under oath that there would have been no case for a warrant without the dossier.

2) Steele was giving the dossier to Yahoo! News and paying them to plant the story. FBI then used that same Yahoo! story in their FISA application claiming it was "corroborating" evidence.

3) Bruce Ohr said that Steele told him that he hated Trump and his goal was to stop Trump by any means necessary.

4) Bill Priestap admitted that the information used for the FISA warrant was not verified whatsoever. Comey later told Trump the same thing in that private meeting (not under oath).

5) FBI knew the dossier was paid for by Clinton and decided not to tell the court that fact.

The FBI had the warrant on Page before the dossier existed. If the dossier had influence it was for renewal of the warrant. There's more to it than that, more intelligence and more evidence but the memo was written as a political tool to be leaked then hashtagged.

[Androidpk]

Wait.. you don't think James Comey wants to hold elected office?

You're adorably naive. I remember when I used to be like that.

I think I was 7.

You thinking Comey is trying to curry favor with Democrats.. :lol:

[Androidpk]

The FBI had the warrant on Page before the dossier existed. If the dossier had influence it was for renewal of the warrant. There's more to it than that, more intelligence and more evidence but the memo was written as a political tool to be leaked then hashtagged.

https://i.imgflip.com/23tx9h.jpg

[Androidpk]

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said Friday that the release of a controversial memo by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee does not discredit nor undermine special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.


In a series of tweets, Gowdy, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee, said that the memo, which alleges abuses by Justice Department and FBI officials, was of interest to the public. But he also said that he still has confidence in "the overwhelming majority of the men and women" in federal law enforcement.

~

Oh shit, it all makes sense now! Gowdy isn't running for re-election because he's secretly trying to curry favor with Democrats so he can run again down the line as a Democrat!

[Androidpk]

White House chief of staff John Kelly told President Trump on Wednesday that he believed a classified memo written by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes was being overhyped and did not have the damning details Republicans claim to know about the FBI and Justice Department, according to a report published late Thursday.

Kelly hand-delivered the memo to Trump in the Oval Office Wednesday afternoon. They both talked about it then Kelly left Trump to read the full document by himself.

Hours later, Kelly returned to speak with his boss and told him he did not think releasing the redacted document would endanger national security, but said the document did not make as compelling of a case against federal investigators who allegedly used false information from the Fusion GPS dossier to obtain a search warrant, according to the Washington Post.

~

ZOMG Kelly is just trying to please Democrats, what a hack! Trump must fire this mole immediately!!!11

[Wrathbringer]

You're retarded.

[ClydeR]

1) FBI used dossier to get Page warrant. McCabe admitted under oath that there would have been no case for a warrant without the dossier.

True!




2) Steele was giving the dossier to Yahoo! News and paying them to plant the story. FBI then used that same Yahoo! story in their FISA application claiming it was "corroborating" evidence.

False!




3) Bruce Ohr said that Steele told him that he hated Trump and his goal was to stop Trump by any means necessary.

That's what the memo says, except for the part about "any means necessary."




4) Bill Priestap admitted that the information used for the FISA warrant was not verified whatsoever. Comey later told Trump the same thing in that private meeting (not under oath).

False!




5) FBI knew the dossier was paid for by Clinton and decided not to tell the court that fact.

True!



Your reading comprehension score is 60%. Thanks for playing.

[RichardCranium]

https://imgur.com/0A4eT8u.jpg

[Androidpk]

Assange? Next you're going to be quoting what Putin thinks about all this.

[RichardCranium]

Lol, I trust Assange about as much as I do Comey. Which is to say, not at all.

[Back]

From John McCain...


“The latest attacks against the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests ― no party’s, no President’s, only Putin’s,” McCain added. “The American people deserve to know all the facts surrounding Russia’s ongoing efforts to subvert our democracy, which is why Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation must proceed unimpeded. Our nation’s elected officials, including the president, must stop looking at this investigation through the lens of politics and manufacturing political sideshows. If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin’s job for him.”

[Wrathbringer]

From John McCain...

This has already been posted. Way to keep up.

[Androidpk]

Lol, I trust Assange about as much as I do Comey. Which is to say, not at all.

And where does Nunes fall on this scale of trust?

[cwolff]

I wonder if the republican strategy here is to make outrageous claims, get people to leak corrections (dem memo, fbi sources, etc...) then eventually say that there's simply been too much of the case discussed in public to let trump have a fair trial/impeachment so will move to dismiss all findings against him.

[Taernath]

The FBI had the warrant on Page before the dossier existed. If the dossier had influence it was for renewal of the warrant. There's more to it than that, more intelligence and more evidence but the memo was written as a political tool to be leaked then hashtagged.


^

[cwolff]

This whole scenario is depressing and I worry about the future of the USA. I mean, can people really not see that the memo was written by a party before country hack. Then the party stepped back and pushed (along with some hundreds of thousands of Russian repeater bots) the release of the memo as if it was some new piece of evidence they just found. Now we have this:


Republican Rep. Paul Gosar (Ariz.) said the FBI's surveillance of a former Trump campaign adviser detailed in a controversial intelligence memo released Friday "constitutes treason."
Gosar said in a statement that he will co-author a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions seeking "criminal prosecution against these traitors to our nation," referring to those who authorized the surveillance warrant.

So they write a 4 page memo, then pretend it's actual evidence. It's like the sherriff writing your confession for you, then telling the judge, "Well, I'm holding a confession in my hand and I got to say it's pretty damning evidence."

Fuckin' A. And American citizens are actually supporting, cheering and defending this bullshit. It's a crazy mixed up world right now.

[ClydeR]

Wait.. you don't think James Comey wants to hold elected office?

His book is coming out in May, unless he pulls a Michael Wolff and releases it early while it's hot.

[Back]

This whole scenario is depressing and I worry about the future of the USA. I mean, can people really not see that the memo was written by a party before country hack. Then the party stepped back and pushed (along with some hundreds of thousands of Russian repeater bots) the release of the memo as if it was some new piece of evidence they just found. Now we have this:



So they write a 4 page memo, then pretend it's actual evidence. It's like the sherriff writing your confession for you, then telling the judge, "Well, I'm holding a confession in my hand and I got to say it's pretty damning evidence."

Fuckin' A. And American citizens are actually supporting, cheering and defending this bullshit. It's a crazy mixed up world right now.

Kinda like the shit that goes on in places like Russia.

[Wrathbringer]

Kinda like the shit that goes on in places like Russia.

you're retarded.

[RichardCranium]

And where does Nunes fall on this scale of trust?

Right down there with the rest of them. However I still don't think the administration would have declassified it without proof, nor would the DNC have so vehemently fought against its release if there was nothing to it.

[cwolff]

Kinda like the shit that goes on in places like Russia.

Ya, exactly. Places that trump admires for their strong/smart leaders. North Korea, Turkey, Phillipines, Russia.

[cwolff]

Right down there with the rest of them. However I still don't think the administration would have declassified it without proof, nor would the DNC have so vehemently fought against its release if there was nothing to it.

proof of what? I don't see anything in the memo that is criminal. I don't even think they allege anything criminal in the memo do they?

[RichardCranium]

proof of what? I don't see anything in the memo that is criminal. I don't even think they allege anything criminal in the memo do they?

Is perjury not illegal?

[cwolff]

Where's the perjury? I just skimmed the memo again and it didn't stand out to me.

[Androidpk]

Right down there with the rest of them. However I still don't think the administration would have declassified it without proof, nor would the DNC have so vehemently fought against its release if there was nothing to it.

So you trust Trump??

[RichardCranium]

So you trust Trump??

I will if they provide proof. I'm still in wait and see mode.

[RichardCranium]

Where's the perjury? I just skimmed the memo again and it didn't stand out to me.

Lying to FISA court to obtain a warrant.

[Androidpk]

I will if they provide proof. I'm still in wait and see mode.

Oh lord..

[Neveragain]

I would have totally supported the SS, the German people were right to ignore the whole thing.

I'm sorry you feel that way. :club:

[Neveragain]

Ya, exactly. Places that trump admires for their strong/smart leaders. North Korea, Turkey, Phillipines, Russia.

You're kidding yourself if you don't think Putin is a grade above pretty much any major world leader at this moment. As far as leadership qualities go, he has it all. Just being honest.

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1662549/putin-deal.gif

[Androidpk]

Putin is an impotent Stalin wannabe.

[Neveragain]

Putin is an impotent Stalin wannabe.

I actually think Putin is on the other end of the spectrum than Stalin dude.

[Androidpk]

You also think sanctions are an act of war and women should be subservient to men. Even Wrathbringer has a higher IQ than you.

[Methais]

https://i.imgflip.com/1gs11w.jpg

[Androidpk]

https://i.imgur.com/mSMkiCt.jpg

[Wrathbringer]

https://i.imgflip.com/1gs11w.jpg

remember when obama told putin he'd have more flexibility after the election?

[Methais]

remember when obama told putin he'd have more flexibility after the election?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/000/348/770/e19.gif

[Parkbandit]

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said Friday that the release of a controversial memo by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee does not discredit nor undermine special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.


In a series of tweets, Gowdy, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee, said that the memo, which alleges abuses by Justice Department and FBI officials, was of interest to the public. But he also said that he still has confidence in "the overwhelming majority of the men and women" in federal law enforcement.

~

Oh shit, it all makes sense now! Gowdy isn't running for re-election because he's secretly trying to curry favor with Democrats so he can run again down the line as a Democrat!

It's time4pk time level of logic now!

[Parkbandit]

Again.. what in that memo was so jeopardizing to national security that the Democrats AND the FBI brass were fighting for it not to be released?

Very, very telling.

[Neveragain]

You also think sanctions are an act of war and women should be subservient to men. Even Wrathbringer has a higher IQ than you.

I'm just capable of knowing the difference between how things are and how I wish them to be. Just a few pages back you were all like "yea it's totally cool that a political party is using the FBI as their attack dogs and the people who pay their salary have no right to know about it."

Don't for a moment think that the whole "subservient to men" thing doesn't come with a long list of responsibilities for the man as well. Sponging off a woman and stealing from another are not found on that list of responsibilities.

[~Rocktar~]

Where's the proof that the Steele dossier is fake? Did Nunes collaborate with the White House in writing this memo? Carter Page was being investigated years before the dossier even came to light.

Honestly, your ship is sinking faster than the USS Indianapolis and you are still bailing water with a colander. Your team faked info, lied to the judge, spied on private citizens without reasonable probable cause and in then have done gone full retard trying all they can to cover it up. All they can say with the people they parade out to Crap News Network is that "It's cherry-picked", "It's not fair" and "it's not good to attack the intelligence community." There is no one that I can find that says anything in the memo is a lie, just that they don't like it or that it's written with a narrative. Keep bailing, you are doing so well.



Right down there with the rest of them. However I still don't think the administration would have declassified it without proof, nor would the DNC have so vehemently fought against its release if there was nothing to it.

This is correct.

[cwolff]

Lying to FISA court to obtain a warrant.

Who lied to a fisa court to obtain a warrant? I don't think the memo says that.

[Neveragain]

remember when obama told putin he'd have more flexibility after the election?

Let us review, shall we.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

[Neveragain]

I thank baby jesus every night that Clinton is not president.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee4PfhogtdQ

[cwolff]

You're kidding yourself if you don't think Putin is a grade above pretty much any major world leader at this moment. As far as leadership qualities go, he has it all. Just being honest.

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1662549/putin-deal.gif

Nah man, hes just another dictator type. Nothing special about him compared to global leaders. His country ain't shit either. A failed democracy, petro state run by criminals. We, with trump in the WH, give them waaaaayyyy to much credit. We've elevated them to our level. Actually, we just lowered ourselves to theirs.

[Androidpk]

It's time4pk time level of logic now!

Too stupid to realize that's your logic right there.

[Androidpk]

Honestly, your ship is sinking faster than the USS Indianapolis and you are still bailing water with a colander. Your team faked info, lied to the judge, spied on private citizens without reasonable probable cause and in then have done gone full retard trying all they can to cover it up. All they can say with the people they parade out to Crap News Network is that "It's cherry-picked", "It's not fair" and "it's not good to attack the intelligence community." There is no one that I can find that says anything in the memo is a lie, just that they don't like it or that it's written with a narrative. Keep bailing, you are doing so well.


I'm not doing any bailing, just sitting back and watching as Mueller and company sink Trump's ship full of rats.

[~Rocktar~]

I'm not doing any bailing, just sitting back and watching as Mueller and company sink Trump's ship full of rats.

And denial is a river in Egypt.

[Androidpk]

Well this is embarrassing, Nunes is now admitting that he's never even read the FISA applications he wrote about in his memo.

[Androidpk]

And denial is a river in Egypt.

Denial is the only thing you have left.

[Androidpk]

Gowdy did read the applications though and knew Nunes memo was nothing but partisan bullshit. Good on him for doing the right thing.

[Geijon]

Again.. what in that memo was so jeopardizing to national security that the Democrats AND the FBI brass were fighting for it not to be released?

Very, very telling.

Basically that it was false, misleading and committed a bunch of counterpoints for accuracy. Plus everything McCain said. It basically landed with a dud.

[Androidpk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0twnM_cfVI

[Neveragain]

Nah man, hes just another dictator type. Nothing special about him compared to global leaders. His country ain't shit either. A failed democracy, petro state run by criminals. We, with trump in the WH, give them waaaaayyyy to much credit. We've elevated them to our level. Actually, we just lowered ourselves to theirs.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l2Z84eFooeHJu/giphy.gif

[RichardCranium]

Well this is embarrassing, Nunes is now admitting that he's never even read the FISA applications he wrote about in his memo.

Lol, one of his staffers did. And he went ahead with it like a fucking idiot.

[Gelston]

Russia really is garbage though. Without the Nukes, they aren't really any more significant than Turkey. Sure, they are a regional power, but definitely can't do much on the global stage. They never really could, even as the Soviet Union. Their biggest attempt at power projection was the Cuban missile crisis, and they failed. Russia has been second rate all through its history.

[cwolff]

8898

Interesting meme. Does highlight how this isn't a "party over country" thing, because all the people involved are republicans

[Wrathbringer]

8898

Interesting meme. Does highlight how this isn't a "party over country" thing, because all the people involved are republicans

lol @ your rep

[Neveragain]

Russia really is garbage though. Without the Nukes, they aren't really any more significant than Turkey. Sure, they are a regional power, but definitely can't do much on the global stage. They never really could, even as the Soviet Union. Their biggest attempt at power projection was the Cuban missile crisis, and they failed. Russia has been second rate all through its history.

This is why we were renting the Russian space program over the past decade.

[Gelston]

This is why we were renting the Russian space program over the past decade.

And your point is? It was cheaper to use them than to develop a replacement or maintain our shuttles (which the Russian ships are completely based off of). They are glorified ubers drivers. Our military space applications are far more advanced than theirs.

[Parkbandit]

Basically that it was false, misleading and committed a bunch of counterpoints for accuracy. Plus everything McCain said. It basically landed with a dud.

So.. it was never about jeopardizing national security like they stated it would?

Color me shocked.

[cwolff]

lol @ your rep

The red? I don't get your comment.

[Neveragain]

And your point is?

I was just using the same straw man technique you are using.

Me "Putin is a grade above any major world leader at this moment."

Gelston "Russia is garbage."

I'm just being honest when I'm talking about Putin, it's obvious who captures the attention of the room when they come together for summits and shit. The dude isn't just a glorified lawyer, he has done very well for his country and Russia comes off as being very unified among it's people when compared to the other major world powers.

When's the last time you remember Americans talking about a Russian leader in a pop culture fashion? ......never in my life. It's not how I wish things were, it's just how things are.

[Gelston]

You seem to think I was addressing you. I wasn't.

[Taernath]

So.. it was never about jeopardizing national security like they stated it would?

Color me shocked.

The FBI is one of our main defenses against terrorism and foreign intelligence operations. When you've got one party/President claiming the organization is compromised by political witch hunting and 'political cults', it damages their credibility. See: half the comments in this thread. This problem isn't going to go away once the Mueller investigation is over, or when Trump leaves office.

[cwolff]

I was just using the same straw man technique you are using.

Me "Putin is a grade above any major world leader at this moment."

Gelston "Russia is garbage."

I'm just being honest when I'm talking about Putin, it's obvious who captures the attention of the room when they come together for summits and shit. The dude isn't just a glorified lawyer, he has done very well for his country and Russia comes off as being very unified among it's people when compared to the other major world powers.

When's the last time you remember Americans talking about a Russian leader in a pop culture fashion? ......never in my life. It's not how I wish things were, it's just how things are.

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/12/08/world/the-gorbachev-visit-soviet-star-is-a-smash-in-broadway-showing.html?pagewanted=all

and Yeltsin was a hero for fighting off the coup attempt to remove Gorby. Were you alive for their time in office?

[Neveragain]

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/12/08/world/the-gorbachev-visit-soviet-star-is-a-smash-in-broadway-showing.html?pagewanted=all

and Yeltsin was a hero for fighting off the coup attempt to remove Gorby. Were you alive for their time in office?

Yeltsin came off as nothing more than a drunk to the rest of the world. Leaders like Putin are rare, Reagan was the last leader we had that fit the status and probably Kennedy before him.

[cwolff]

Maybe you weren't alive then. Gorby was a total pop star here and Yeltsin set an example that is hard to underestimate. He did end as a drunk, but that day when he held off the coup he was the epitome of a public servant and patriot. You underestimate his popularity. Of course you're just trolling about Putin...at least I hope you are.

[Neveragain]

Maybe you weren't alive then. Gorby was a total pop star here and Yeltsin set an example that is hard to underestimate. He did end as a drunk, but that day when he held off the coup he was the epitome of a public servant and patriot. You underestimate his popularity. Of course you're just trolling about Putin...at least I hope you are.

Gorby was not a pop star, he was the Russian leader with the giant fucking birthmark on his head.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEExYuRelbg

[Gelston]

Gorbachev was talked about just as much as you could talk about a foreign leader back then. We didn't have 345634 24/7 news channels and social media, but yeah. Yeltsin was talked about a lot too.

[Taernath]

Yeah, Gorbachev and Yeltsin were popular here. Glasnost? Perestroika? Any of that ring a bell?

[cwolff]

What we're seeing here is a Man Crush in full bloom. You're even comparing their physical appearance and saying Gorby couldn't have had pop star popularity because he was old and ugly. I'm laughing now thinking of you gazing fondly at your poster of Putin, shirtless on horseback.

[Methais]

Maybe you weren't alive then. Gorby was a total pop star here and Yeltsin set an example that is hard to underestimate. He did end as a drunk, but that day when he held off the coup he was the epitome of a public servant and patriot. You underestimate his popularity. Of course you're just trolling about Putin...at least I hope you are.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVwUUNdc1HU

And Yeltsin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QryzkMUkmX0

2:14 "I need burger" with all that other shit going on :lol:

[Neveragain]

Gorbachev was talked about just as much as you could talk about a foreign leader back then. We didn't have 345634 24/7 news channels and social media, but yeah. Yeltsin was talked about a lot too.

I'm sorry, I just don't recall Gorby or Yeltsin having hotties flashing their tits at them like they were rock stars.

[Gelston]

I'm sorry, I just don't recall Gorby or Yeltsin having hotties flashing their tits at them like they were rock stars.

You're retarded.

[Neveragain]

You're retarded.

You hate tits now too?

[Back]

Putin isn't much more than a mafia boss. He's a liar, manipulator, murderer, and embezzler amongst other things. Russian government corruption is legendary. The average Russian citizen is so jaded by decades of corruption they don't even move their cars out of the way when an ambulance approaches because they think it's giving some government agent a ride somewhere.

I admire Neveragain's honesty though. At least he has the balls to admit his love for Putin and isn't dancing around the subject like most other conservatives.

[Neveragain]

Putin isn't much more than a mafia boss. He's a liar, manipulator, murderer, and embezzler amongst other things. Russian government corruption is legendary. The average Russian citizen is so jaded by decades of corruption they don't even move their cars out of the way when an ambulance approaches because they think it's giving some government agent a ride somewhere.

I admire Neveragain's honesty though. At least he has the balls to admit his love for Putin and isn't dancing around the subject like most other conservatives.

Why do flaming liberals so easily confuse respect for admiration? Is it because they were never taught how to respect others?

"Putin isn't much more than a mafia boss. He's a liar, manipulator, murderer, and embezzler "

Isn't this what government has always done?

[Methais]

Putin isn't much more than a mafia boss. He's a liar, manipulator, murderer, and embezzler amongst other things. Russian government corruption is legendary. The average Russian citizen is so jaded by decades of corruption they don't even move their cars out of the way when an ambulance approaches because they think it's giving some government agent a ride somewhere.

I admire Neveragain's honesty though. At least he has the balls to admit his love for Putin and isn't dancing around the subject like most other conservatives.

I've been meaning to ask this for a while, but whenever you make a post, could you also disclose the number of drinks you've had before making said post?

Thanks buddy!

[SHAFT]

Lol, one of his staffers did. And he went ahead with it like a fucking idiot.

He actually admitted Gowdy was the one who read it and they based the memo from Gowdy's notes.

You'll notice Gowdy stepped down on Monday. Impeccable timing!

Also, and forgive me if this has mentioned somewhere in the other 11 pages, but Carter Page was under surveillance long before the dossier came about.

[Gelston]

He didn't step down, he just isn't seeking reelection. Stepping down is when you resign.

[SHAFT]

He didn't step down, he just isn't seeking reelection. Stepping down is when you resign.

He stepped down from the house ethics committee.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/politics/gowdy-steps-down-house-ethics/index.html

Forgive me, he stepped down from the committee weeks ago, but said he wouldn't run for re-election Monday. Apologies.

[Gelston]

He stepped down from the house ethics committee.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/politics/gowdy-steps-down-house-ethics/index.html

Forgive me, he stepped down from the committee weeks ago, but said he wouldn't run for re-election Monday. Apologies.

Yeah, I was looking around after you said that, because I thought you were saying he just quit Congress.

[Parkbandit]

The FBI is one of our main defenses against terrorism and foreign intelligence operations. When you've got one party/President claiming the organization is compromised by political witch hunting and 'political cults', it damages their credibility. See: half the comments in this thread. This problem isn't going to go away once the Mueller investigation is over, or when Trump leaves office.

That problem has always been in the FBI, since there are people who work there. I do believe it's amplified because you have a "Republican" in the White House who is not a politician. Many on the left AND the right do not like that, because he jeopardizes their political power.

But, there was absolutely nothing in that memo that came close to what the Democrats were saying.. that the release would jeopardize national security. That was never the case and they knew it.

[Gelston]

What we need is a crossdressing closet homosexual who has dirt on just about everyone to take over the FBI for decades.

[Parkbandit]

Putin isn't much more than a mafia boss. He's a liar, manipulator, murderer, and embezzler amongst other things. Russian government corruption is legendary. The average Russian citizen is so jaded by decades of corruption they don't even move their cars out of the way when an ambulance approaches because they think it's giving some government agent a ride somewhere.

I admire Neveragain's honesty though. At least he has the balls to admit his love for Putin and isn't dancing around the subject like most other conservatives.

Putin is still a much better leader than our last limp wristed President.

And that is agreeing with your description of Putin entirely.

It's less about loving Putin and more about realizing what a pussy Obama was.

[Parkbandit]

He stepped down from the house ethics committee.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/politics/gowdy-steps-down-house-ethics/index.html

Forgive me, he stepped down from the committee weeks ago, but said he wouldn't run for re-election Monday. Apologies.

You should read up on why he stepped down from the House Ethics Committee.

You would look less dumb right now.

[Androidpk]

But, there was absolutely nothing in that memo that came close to what the Democrats were saying.. that the release would jeopardize national security. That was never the case and they knew it.

The act alone of politicizing intelligence is dangerous. It erodes the trust between law enforcement agencies/IC and Congress, between the agencies and the public and between congress and the public. This memo wasn't released because Nunes was concerned about the methods used to collect this information because he himself was behind the push to allow for these rules just a few weeks ago. This is purely political to try and provide protection to Trump. That is jeopardizing national security.

[Archigeek]

All hype, no substance. What a nothing burger.

[Androidpk]

https://i.imgur.com/VthMecn.jpg

[Androidpk]

It's her official account. Look at the date of when she said it. It was when Hillary was complaining about the FBI.

[Latrinsorm]

That problem has always been in the FBI, since there are people who work there. I do believe it's amplified because you have a "Republican" in the White House who is not a politician. Many on the left AND the right do not like that, because he jeopardizes their political power.:lol:

No arrest of (any) Clinton.
No Amendment for Congressional term limits.
No lobbying ban on those same Congressionals.

Huge tax cut for the party donors.
RNC with all time high fundraising.
DNC with all time high candidates.

Broad bipartisan support for the Mueller investigation both in Congress and in the public, the same investigation that has arrested multiple people associated with politician Donald Trump.

The left and the right seem to be chugging along just fine.

[Taernath]

That problem has always been in the FBI, since there are people who work there. I do believe it's amplified because you have a "Republican" in the White House who is not a politician. Many on the left AND the right do not like that, because he jeopardizes their political power.

But, there was absolutely nothing in that memo that came close to what the Democrats were saying.. that the release would jeopardize national security. That was never the case and they knew it.

I disagree. There are lawmakers calling for "purges" in the FBI. At the very least, a good chunk of the populace now believes the FBI is biased and not to be trusted, particularly when it comes to Russia.

As far as the Democrats... if they were hyping up the memo as if it had some earth shattering revelations in it, but it didn't and they knew it... that would be some masterful trolling.

I think it's more the former than the latter, though. They just don't want to see the Rs keep trying to tear down our investigative bodies.

[SHAFT]

You should read up on why he stepped down from the House Ethics Committee.

You would look less dumb right now.

Yeah because the GOP and people like trey gowdy always give the truth and the whole story! Haha

I’ll give credence to what Trey Gowdy says when he hands over his text message records during the period when he was investigating (harassing) Hillary Clinton.

Shouldn’t be an issue right? GOP loooooves transparency! They love transparency so much I expect we’ll see the Dem memo and Trumps tax returns real soon now.

[Androidpk]

Trump will never release his taxes but that's okay because I'm sure Mueller already has them.

[cwolff]

Trumps a perfect example of how you get big government. Get one asshole who violates the norms because its not technically illegal or there's no rule explicitly against it and we then have to make new laws.

[Methais]

Putin is still a much better leader than our last limp wristed President.

And that is agreeing with your description of Putin entirely.

It's less about loving Putin and more about realizing what a pussy Obama was.

Wait. You don’t think Obama is tough and manly like Backlash does? :wtf:

[Back]

Putin is still a much better leader than our last limp wristed President.

And that is agreeing with your description of Putin entirely.

It's less about loving Putin and more about realizing what a pussy Obama was.

Wow. Still crying over Obama? What a bitter loser you are. It's all ok, cupcake. Trump won. Get over it. Putin will still keep fucking the west in the ass and you can continue to enjoy it.

[Wrathbringer]

Wow. Still crying over Obama? What a bitter loser you are. It's all ok, cupcake. Trump won. Get over it. Putin will still keep fucking the west in the ass and you can continue to enjoy it.

You lost. Get over it. America rejected your views. Get over it.

[Methais]

Trump won. Get over it.

Last night I said a prayer asking if God could help Backlash say something that wasn’t stupid for once.

I now know that God listens.
















To Slayer.

[Androidpk]

Limp wristed or not at least Obama embodied American values. Putin may come across as a tough leader but it's only because he's an oppressive dictator obsessed about his image.

[Back]

Limp wristed or not at least Obama embodied American values. Putin may come across as a tough leader but it's only because he's an oppressive dictator obsessed about his image.

When guys are deeply insecure about their masculinity they vote for people like Trump and idolize people like Putin.

[Methais]

When guys are deeply insecure about their masculinity they vote for people like Trump and idolize people like Putin.

How many drinks did you consume before this post?

[Neveragain]

Limp wristed or not at least Obama embodied American values. Putin may come across as a tough leader but it's only because he's an oppressive dictator obsessed about his image.


When guys are deeply insecure about their masculinity they vote for people like Trump and idolize people like Putin.

http://www.jojofun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/franz-cisco-clown-gif-2.gif

[Neveragain]

Last night I said a prayer asking if God could help Backlash say something that wasn’t stupid for once.

I now know that God listens.
















To Slayer.

You should probably pray to Jesus that you will learn how to post whatever it is you're trying to post.

https://media.giphy.com/media/gMHFX7PEDZEHK/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

Wow. Still crying over Obama? What a bitter loser you are. It's all ok, cupcake. Trump won. Get over it. Putin will still keep fucking the west in the ass and you can continue to enjoy it.

For someone so "inclusive" and "tolerant", you really seem to hold some deep seeded homophobic tendencies.

Why is that?

[Parkbandit]

Wow. Still crying over Obama? What a bitter loser you are. It's all ok, cupcake. Trump won. Get over it. Putin will still keep fucking the west in the ass and you can continue to enjoy it.


When guys are deeply insecure about their masculinity they vote for people like Trump and idolize people like Putin.

It's literally like you don't remember what you posted 3 hours prior...

Insecurity is your middle name.

Masculinity is not ANY part of your name though :(

[Methais]

You should probably pray to Jesus that you will learn how to post whatever it is you're trying to post.

https://media.giphy.com/media/gMHFX7PEDZEHK/giphy.gif

I posted exactly what I was trying to post. What the fuck are you talking about?

[ClydeR]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVR-Da5U8AAEvYC.jpg

[Methais]

Shut up Latrin

[Androidpk]

The House Intelligence Committee voted Monday to release a Democratic rebuttal to GOP accusations that the FBI misled a secret surveillance court — but whether the information actually becomes public will depend on President Trump, who has heaped scorn on the effort.

The vote means the political rancor roiling Congress is likely to continue, as accusations and counter-accusations fly about which party is misrepresenting or misusing sensitive intelligence surrounding the ongoing probe into whether any Trump associates coordinated with the Kremlin to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.

Before the vote, Trump charged in a tweet that the committee’s top Democrat, Rep. Adam B. Schiff (Calif.) “leaves closed committee hearings to illegally leak confidential information” and “must be stopped” — suggesting the president may decide not to allow Schiff’s assertions to be made public.

[cwolff]

They're taking a risk here. The nunes memo has already been discredited and they're still trying to play catch up. Playing the republicans game. Their memo can't say anything that will get through to trumps monkeys anyway.

Dems do suck at messaging.

[Androidpk]

I'm all for their memo being released. It isn't enough that Nunes memo was discredited.

[Neveragain]

I posted exactly what I was trying to post. What the fuck are you talking about?

Looked like a bad link on my notepad.

[Methais]

Looked like a bad link on my notepad.

Reported for having a bad notepad.

[Androidpk]

Rep. Tom Rooney says the atmosphere on the House Intelligence Committee is “absolute poison”:

Rooney said one reason for the tension is an erosion of trust, exacerbated by an ongoing ethics investigation into the “entire Republican staff,” including “the woman up front that answers the phone” for alleged leaks. He later added that the matter was being handled by the Office of Congressional Ethics.

[cwolff]

They're gonna get their wall though:


In a sign of increasing partisan hostilities, Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee plan to construct a wall – a physical partition – separating Republican and Democratic staff members in the committee's secure spaces, according to multiple committee sources. It's expected to happen this spring

[Androidpk]

Is that from The Onion? :lol:

[cwolff]

Is that from The Onion? :lol:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-intel-committee-gop-plan-to-wall-themselves-off-from-democrats-devin-nunes-adam-schiff/

They got to keep the bad hombres out

[ClydeR]

His book is coming out in May, unless he pulls a Michael Wolff and releases it early while it's hot.





Flatiron Books told The Associated Press on Wednesday that is moving up publication from May 1 to April 17. Flatiron President Bob Miller and Publisher Amy Einhorn say that there was demand for the former FBI director to be heard amid an "urgent conversation" about the bureau. President Donald Trump and his supporters have repeatedly criticized the investigation into his campaign's alleged ties with Russian officials.

More... (http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/entertainment/publisher-moves-release-james-comey-memoir-april-17-article-1.3806167)

Just as I predicted.

[Methais]

Shut up Latrin.

[RichardCranium]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-intel-committee-gop-plan-to-wall-themselves-off-from-democrats-devin-nunes-adam-schiff/

They got to keep the bad hombres out

So both sides like their safe spaces it seems.

[~Rocktar~]

I'm all for their memo being released. It isn't enough that Nunes memo was discredited.

The only people discounting the Nunes memo, which reveals some pretty damning accusations regarding our previous POTUS and genuine conspiracy, are Democrats and the MSM. Both of which are part of the cover up.

[cwolff]

The only people discounting the Nunes memo, which reveals some pretty damning accusations regarding our previous POTUS and genuine conspiracy, are Democrats and the MSM. Both of which are part of the cover up.

And Gowdy, and Christie and basically everyone besides right wing nutters. All your declarations fall apart without a conspiracy theory

[Androidpk]

The only people discounting the Nunes memo, which reveals some pretty damning accusations regarding our previous POTUS and genuine conspiracy, are Democrats and the MSM. Both of which are part of the cover up.

So like I said...

https://i.redd.it/7v3f5qib76f01.jpg

[ClydeR]

Trump has decided not to allow release of the Democrat rebuttal to the Nunes memo. The Democrat memo was wrong because it implied that there was collusion between Trump and the Russians, which everybody knows did not happen.



President Trump will not release the Democratic rebuttal to the Republican intelligence memo alleging FBI abuses of its surveillance authority at this time.

Trump has sent the memo back to the House Intelligence Committee for changes.

In a letter to the committee, White House counsel Donald McGahn said, “although the President is inclined to declassify the February 5th memorandum, because the memorandum contains numerous properly classified and especially sensitive passages, he is unable to do so at this time."

More... (https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/09/politics/shutdown-latest/index.html)

[Androidpk]

Trump has decided not to allow release of the Democrat rebuttal to the Nunes memo. The Democrat memo was wrong because it implied that there was collusion between Trump and the Russians, which everybody knows did not happen.

Shocker, lol.

[ClydeR]

Shocker, lol.


The FBI didn't want Trump to release it. His hands were tied. Trump would never release a memo to which the FBI objected.

[cwolff]

Shocker, lol.

No kidding.

[Androidpk]

No kidding.

Blocking this memo is a great way to show that Trump is innocent and not afraid.

[cwolff]

Didn't the dem memo get vetted before it was sent to the WH?

[cwolff]

The FBI didn't want Trump to release it. His hands were tied. Trump would never release a memo to which the FBI objected.

Ya that's right. He has too much respect for law enforcement.

[Androidpk]

As public scrutiny exposes deep flaws in the memo from the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, about alleged F.B.I. surveillance abuses, the committee’s Republicans are increasingly downplaying its significance. Mr. Nunes’s colleagues are right to seek some distance from this caper — not to mention other similar memos he has hinted at releasing. That’s because by writing and releasing the memo, the chairman may just have landed himself, and his staff members, in the middle of Robert Mueller’s obstruction of justice investigation.

This risk emerged when Repesentative Mike Quigley, a Democrat on the committee, asked Mr. Nunes whether he or his staff coordinated the memo with the White House. Mr. Nunes said he had not — but refused to answer the same question about his staff. Facing a second round of questions on this issue during a committee meeting last week, Mr. Nunes again demurred, except to read a narrow statement that the White House was not involved in the actual drafting.

In additional comments to the press, the committee staff director noted the memo was a “‘team effort’ that involved investigators who had access to source material.”

Given Mr. Nunes’s own close relations to the White House as a former member of the executive committee of the Trump transition team, and his previous history conferring with White House officials on matters under investigation by his committee, it is fair to surmise that his staff, perhaps at his direction, may have coordinated the memo with the White House.

Such conduct could expose Mr. Nunes and his staff to liability for conspiracy to obstruct justice. According to press accounts, the Nunes memo may be designed at least in part to provide the president an excuse for firing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the individual with supervisory authority over Mr. Mueller, the special counsel in charge of the investigation. The purported scheme: clear a path to install a Trump-friendly replacement who would either fire Mr. Mueller or otherwise defang the investigation. Indeed, after the memo was released the president did nothing to quell these suspicions, ominously responding “you figure that one out” when asked if the memo made him more likely to fire Mr. Rosenstein. The double standard applied by the president in refusing the immediate release of a rebuttal memo offered by the minority is hardly reassuring as to his good intentions.

Endeavoring to stop an investigation, if done with corrupt intent, may constitute obstruction of justice. Plotting to assist such action may be conspiracy to obstruct justice.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/opinion/devin-nunes-obstruction-justice.html

No doubt Mueller and his team will be questioning Nunes and his staff.

[cwolff]

Now that the Nunes memo is thoroughly debunked we need a thread for the trumpanzees to post their apologies.

[CertainlyNotATroll]

Now that the Nunes memo is thoroughly debunked we need a thread for the trumpanzees to post their apologies.

Supreme leader has twated that the memo CONFIRMS his position of being a liar! please to not be spreading this subversive words.

[cwolff]

Supreme leader has twated that the memo CONFIRMS his position of being a liar! please to not be spreading this subversive words.

My only question is this. Was that a typo or do you use the word twat so much that your autocorrect defaults to it?:lolwave:

[Androidpk]

Nunes went on TV and said that there was no excuse for the Dems to have waited this long to release their rebuttal memo and that the Republicans wanted it released all along but the Democrats didn't want to release it.. you can't make this shit up! The Onion is going to go out of business at this rate.