FCC attempting to get rid of Net Neutrality

[Androidpk]

Now is the time to be contacting your Senators to make sure this does not happen.

[Taernath]

Now is the time to be contacting your Senators to make sure this does not happen.

Unfortunately, I think it's a done deal.

[Gelston]

Yeah, this was my fear with a Republican President.

[Androidpk]

No one ever said it was going to be easy but it is not a done deal.

[Androidpk]

15 state Attorney Generals and counting are suing the FCC.

[Gelston]

15 state Attorney Generals and counting are suing the FCC.

See, that shit is stupid. "We don't like what you did even though it is 100% within your legal jurisdiction to do so, so we're going to sue." Seems like every fucking thing.

[Parkbandit]

What exactly did you lose with this change?

How exactly is it affecting (effecting?) your life?

Be precise and specific. Not just "BUT IT'S NEUTRAL, SO VOTING AGAINST IT IS AGAINST BEING NEUTRAL!"

[Archigeek]

What exactly did you lose with this change?

How exactly is it affecting (effecting?) your life?

Be precise and specific. Not just "BUT IT'S NEUTRAL, SO VOTING AGAINST IT IS AGAINST BEING NEUTRAL!"

I think you need to look ahead a bit. Of course it has had no impact on anyone yet, but what will the impact be? I would guess that fairly quickly, providers will be dividing service into packages like Basic, Premium, and Platinum. They may just specify higher speeds for some destinations over others, or flat out limit access with some packages. Basically bandwidth providers will take a stab at controlling content like the cable companies already do for TV, or they'll sell different bandwidth packages, or they'll put the squeeze on providers by reducing speed to their websites without the payment of an upcharge.

In the longer run, we might see more providers. Compan8ez like Google may step up their bandwidth game rather than lose access.

[Gelston]

I think you need to look ahead a bit. Of course it has had no impact on anyone yet, but what will the impact be? I would guess that fairly quickly, providers will be dividing service into packages like Basic, Premium, and Platinum.

They... Already do that.

[Parkbandit]

I think you need to look ahead a bit. Of course it has had no impact on anyone yet, but what will the impact be? I would guess that fairly quickly, providers will be dividing service into packages like Basic, Premium, and Platinum. They may just specify higher speeds for some destinations over others, or flat out limit access with some packages. Basically bandwidth providers will take a stab at controlling content like the cable companies already do for TV, or they'll sell different bandwidth packages, or they'll put the squeeze on providers by reducing speed to their websites without the payment of an upcharge.

In the longer run, we might see more providers. Compan8ez like Google may step up their bandwidth game rather than lose access.

If I use a ton of electricity.. am I not expected to pay more than someone not using as much as me?

Why are we protecting some guy who is downloading/streaming movies/music/porn all day, every day.. and he demands to pay the same amount as a little old lady who sends her grandson some email once a month?

I've never understood this call for "Net Neutrality" at all... and given that it's the government regulating the free market... I'm very skeptical about it.

[AnOrdim]

Broadband used to be defined as 5/1 service, this made it minimum 20/5, that can now go back down, meaning you could start paying a premium if you have the lowest tier "broadband" package.
Companies took many shots at traffice shaping different services in an attempt to extort money out of them both before and after this ruling. Some got hit with it. Netflix was one of the biggest names to pay extra. Verizon and Comcast wanted people to pay for their streaming service instead, so they slowed down netflix traffic to make it less usable.
Cable and telephone companies were paid BILLIONS of dollars from states and towns since the early 90's to run optical lines to help prepare for the future of the internet. They took the money and never even laid 10% of the lines they promised to. They continue to charge and profit from the older technology even after being given hand outs to upgrade.
Bandwidth isn't like electricity or water, if you use 10% or 100% of your capacity doesn't matter. Cable companies constantly over provision their equipment and provide shit service. Because they've created effective monopolies with kickbacks and rebates to towns to keep other companies out, there is no real compition unless Verizon or Google runs fiber into the area, even then, the market is limited.
Providers can filter whatever they wanted for no reason and charge etc as stated.

There is literally nothing that benefits end users by this repeal, please, be specific in exactly how this is GOOD for anyone.

[AnOrdim]

So you are uneducated and just raging because your party told you too. Got it! You know what those people are called, shills.

[Tisket]

As far as the end user is concerned, I think this will be a case of much ado about nothing. Relax. The sky is not falling.

[Taernath]

If I use a ton of electricity.. am I not expected to pay more than someone not using as much as me?

Why are we protecting some guy who is downloading/streaming movies/music/porn all day, every day.. and he demands to pay the same amount as a little old lady who sends her grandson some email once a month?

I've never understood this call for "Net Neutrality" at all... and given that it's the government regulating the free market... I'm very skeptical about it.

Data caps are a little different than actual restricted or slowed content. For example, Hulu is owned (in part) by Comcast. Comcast could theoretically choose to impede access to Netflix because it is a rival streaming service, unless you pay Comcast more money for a 'streaming' package.

[Gelston]

Data caps are a little different than actual restricted or slowed content. For example, Hulu is owned (in part) by Comcast. Comcast could theoretically choose to impede access to Netflix because it is a rival streaming service, unless you pay Comcast more money for a 'streaming' package.

Hulu is also about to be part owned by Disney, so... They could really team up to fuck netflix.

[Taernath]

Hulu is also about to be part owned by Disney, so... They could really team up to fuck netflix.

Yep. Plus I use the 4k option for Netflix, so a change in speed could make that useless.

Basically instead of just paying one fee to your ISP, you'll have to buy multiple 'packages' to get everything you want, like you do for cable.

Oh, and if that's not enough, Comcast owns MSNBC so you might be bombarded with ads for them while you're browsing Fox News.

[Methais]

Good thing for me my ISP is local and badass and also has to compete with Cox and AT&T. Not bad for some piece of shit nothing town in the deep south.

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[Gelston]

Good thing for me my ISP is local and badass and also has to compete with Cox and AT&T. Not bad for some piece of shit nothing town in the deep south.

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What speeds you got? We have a local one here too, but I'm on the wrong side of the river.

[Methais]

What speeds you got? We have a local one here too, but I'm on the wrong side of the river.

We got gig speeds here. I have 50/25 at my house because more would be overkill.

[Gelston]

We got gig speeds here. I have 50/25 at my house because more would be overkill.

50? 50!?!?!? I have 100, but I used to be a cord cutter and streamed all my TV and stuff from the online stuff like PS Vue and what not. I have Dish now, but my cameras use my wifi, so I think I'll keep it at 100.

[subzero]

Hulu is also about to be part owned by Disney, so... They could really team up to fuck netflix.

Mickey Mouse is about to strap on a heavily spiked gauntlet and punch Netflix right in the mouth. And the jimmy, Johnny Cage style.

[Wrathbringer]

Mickey Mouse is about to strap on a heavily spiked gauntlet and punch Netflix right in the mouth. And the jimmy, Johnny Cage style.

you said strap on lol

[subzero]

you said strap on lol

I figured someone would go there.

[Latrinsorm]

If I use a ton of electricity.. am I not expected to pay more than someone not using as much as me?

Why are we protecting some guy who is downloading/streaming movies/music/porn all day, every day.. and he demands to pay the same amount as a little old lady who sends her grandson some email once a month?

I've never understood this call for "Net Neutrality" at all... and given that it's the government regulating the free market... I'm very skeptical about it.The point of net neutrality is that the ISP can't charge the *porn site* more to transmit data. Now they can.

They can also now decide to throttle access to those sites, or block them completely. They could for instance decide that small time niche sites, for example an online forum for a thirty year old text based game, aren't worth the cost of connecting and throttle access to it down to 1 KB/sec.

This is why sites like Google are vehemently opposed to net neutrality. They don't care what you pay, they care what *they* pay.

[Androidpk]

https://www.inquisitr.com/4685704/fcc-has-reportedly-been-using-dead-peoples-social-media-accounts-to-spread-propaganda/

[Androidpk]

FCC still won't release any information from when they claimed they were DDoS'd back in May.