Baltimore Removes Confederate Statues

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Baltimore Quietly Removed All 4 Of Its Confederate Statues Overnight


All four of Baltimore’s Confederate statues were removed overnight, just days after a white nationalist rally erupted into chaos and violence (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/charlottesville-was-inevitable-white-nationalist-rally_us_59907756e4b090964297ba58) in Charlottesville, Virginia.

The Baltimore City Council voted unanimously Monday night to immediately take down the monuments after more than a year of indecision.

City crews began the removal process at 11:30 p.m. Tuesday and finished around 5:30 a.m. Wednesday, according to The Baltimore Sun (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-monuments-removed-20170816-story.html). Hours earlier,President Donald Trump (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/donald-trump) had defended the white nationalist demonstrators (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-charlottesville-statement_us_59935477e4b009141640ab00?ncid=inblnku shpmg00000009)who gathered in Virginia this weekend, ostensibly to protest the removal of a Confederate statue.

Bravo Baltimore. I think we'll see a lot more of this in the coming years.

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Bravo Baltimore. I think we'll see a lot more of this in the coming years.

Why were there Conferderate statues in Baltimore in the first place?

[Ashliana]

That was my first thought.. also, Baltimore is also like 65% black.

[Back]

Maryland was considered a southern state since it is south of the Mason-Dixon. Why do we have any of those statues?

[Parkbandit]

Maryland was considered a southern state since it is south of the Mason-Dixon. Why do we have any of those statues?

Historical reasons I suppose.

More Americans died in the Civil War than any other war in history.

[Tgo01]

That moment you realize the radical left takes their ques from ISIS:

http://cdn.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2017-08-14-at-7.29.45-PM.jpg

http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/S6.jpg

And what is Baltimore's response: Terrorism DOES pay!

[Androidpk]

That moment you realize the radical left takes their ques from ISIS:

http://cdn.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2017-08-14-at-7.29.45-PM.jpg

http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/S6.jpg

And what is Baltimore's response: Terrorism DOES pay!


http://i.imgur.com/Jr3wItR.gif

[Back]

False equivalence. White supremacists have more in common with ISIL and terrorists.

[Tgo01]

http://i.imgur.com/Jr3wItR.gif

You're comparing the US Army during WWII to ISIS? That's kind of sad :(

[Tgo01]

False equivalence. White supremacists have more in common with ISIL and terrorists.

False equivalence? How?

The radical left uses intimidation and violence to suppress the speech of people they hate....ISIS uses intim...I'm really not following your logic here.

[Back]

False equivalence? How?

The radical left uses intimidation and violence to suppress the speech of people they hate....ISIS uses intim...I'm really not following your logic here.

Provide an example please.

[Androidpk]

You're comparing the US Army during WWII to ISIS? That's kind of sad :(

You are.

[Tgo01]

False equivalence? How?

The radical left uses intimidation and violence to suppress the speech of people they hate....ISIS uses intim...I'm really not following your logic here.

Oh wait, I just realized you said White supremacists have more in common with ISIS. You're not denying that the radical left is like ISIS, just that white supremacists are more closely aligned to ISIS than the radical left.

Okay, sure, why not? I'll grant you this one, Back.

[Tgo01]

You are.

Actually I'm not, you're the one who made the comparison.

[Berubeo21]

Many see confederate soldiers as veterans, so I guess to honor their service to their country? There are many statues of questionable people all over America and the world, not taking them down is now political suicide for certain politicians. My question is when will this nonsense stop, will one side or the other ever be satisfied?

[Androidpk]

Actually I'm not, you're the one who made the comparison.

How did I make that comparison? You're the one that compared the two, I merely pointed out your idiocy.

[Back]

Oh wait, I just realized you said White supremacists have more in common with ISIS. You're not denying that the radical left is like ISIS, just that white supremacists are more closely aligned to ISIS than the radical left.

Okay, sure, why not? I'll grant you this one, Back.

Yeah and they are all human beings. Thats the problem with your false equivalencies. You can find one little thing in common with two completely different things and suddenly they are the same in your eyes. Well, show us how the radical left is like ISIL. Lets see an example of your claim.

[Tgo01]

Provide an example please.

Provide an example of the radical left using intimidation and violence to suppress free speech? You can't possibly be serious.

http://wtvr.com/2017/08/14/cbs-6-journalist-attack-richmond-protest/


A WTVR CBS 6 journalist was assaulted by a protester in Richmond Sunday night.

This was an Antifa fuck.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/05/29/a-man-clobbered-trump-supporters-with-a-bike-lock-the-internet-went-looking-for-him/


One attack was captured in a profanity-filled video later posted to YouTube. The bike lock flashes through the air and smashes into a man’s head with a thunk.

Another Antifa fuck, this man was rushed to the hospital after the attack.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Trump-Supporter-Attacked-Center-City-Philadelphia-Rally-432807083.html


Police say around 12:30 p.m., several anti-Trump protesters attacked a group of Trump supporters who were trying to enter a Center City bar. Three were arrested after they allegedly injured one of the Trump supporters and attacked a police officer.

Another Antifa attack.

http://media.salon.com/2017/04/berkeley-protest-620x412.jpg

Here is an Antifa member pepper spraying someone.

https://newinformation.today/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/montreal4march.jpg

Antifa members kicking the shit out of a Trump supporter.

http://cdn.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/vlcsnap-2017-06-04-15h22m36s169.png

Gang of Antifa members attacking a Trump supporter.

And I didn't even bother going over the radical leftists currently occupying most college campuses these days.

But let's not let facts get in the way of our moral outrage.

[Tgo01]

How did I make that comparison? You're the one that compared the two, I merely pointed out your idiocy.

I never once mentioned WWII or the Nazis. That was all on you. Nice deflection attempt though.

[Berubeo21]

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[Seizer]

Provide an example please.

https://www.chicagomaroon.com/2016/02/23/police-intervene-as-i-house-event-turns-heated/

[Androidpk]

I never once mentioned WWII or the Nazis. That was all on you. Nice deflection attempt though.

Says the person deflecting. Own your words. You said something incredibly stupid and got called out on it.

[Tgo01]

Yeah and they are all human beings.

Oh wait, so the only thing you think Antifa has in common with terrorists is they are both human beings?

Yeah, you fail so hard right now Back it's not even funny.

I see you have bought into the left's narrative that even thinking about holding the radical left responsible for their actions makes you a Nazi.

Sad. Were you ever a free thinker, Back? Or did you always get your queues from the media?

[Tgo01]

Says the person deflecting. Own your words. You said something incredibly stupid and got called out on it.

Talk about irony.

"Hey, Tgo01, here is me comparing the US Army during WWII to ISIS! When are you going to own you said this?"

What?

[Androidpk]

Talk about irony.

"Hey, Tgo01, here is me comparing the US Army during WWII to ISIS! When are you going to own you said this?"

What?

Do I really need to dumb this down for you so you'll understand?

[Back]

Oh wait, so the only thing you think Antifa has in common with terrorists is they are both human beings?

Yeah, you fail so hard right now Back it's not even funny.

I see you have bought into the left's narrative that even thinking about holding the radical left responsible for their actions makes you a Nazi.

Sad. Were you ever a free thinker, Back? Or did you always get your queues from the media?

Easy tiger. You're really making some assumptions there. You mention ANTIFA. You had not mentioned that in your post claiming the radical left uses intimidation and violence like ISIL. That is patently false. ANTIFA has not declared a caliphate, has not claimed a large swath of the middle east, does not have a religeous agenda and thats just the tip of the iceburg in comparing the two. We can go on about beheadings, rape, torture, burning people alive in cages and yeah. Your claim is stupid.

[Back]

https://www.chicagomaroon.com/2016/02/23/police-intervene-as-i-house-event-turns-heated/

Hmm, not quite ISIL level.

[Tgo01]

ANTIFA has not declared a caliphate, has not claimed a large swath of the middle east, does not have a religeous agenda and thats just the tip of the iceburg in comparing the two. We can go on about beheadings, rape, torture, burning people alive in cages and yeah. Your claim is stupid.

Wait wait, weren't you the one who said white supremacists in the US have more in common with ISIS? Okay, so start sourcing this shit you just listed.

What a completely dumb thing to say.

Tgo01: Radical left taking their queues from ISIS.
Back: Nuh uh! Antifa hasn't claimed large swathes of the Middle East so therefore your comparison is invalid!
Tgo01: http://www.idgconnect.com/IMG/726/2726/2192192956-c9023211ca-620x354.jpg

[Back]

Wait wait, weren't you the one who said white supremacists in the US have more in common with ISIS? Okay, so start sourcing this shit you just listed.

What a completely dumb thing to say.

Tgo01: Radical left taking their queues from ISIS.
Back: Nuh uh! Antifa hasn't claimed large swathes of the Middle East so therefore your comparison is invalid!
Tgo01: facepalm

The KKK has burned and hanged Americans. ISIL may be taking some tactics from the KKK to be honest.

[Tgo01]

The KKK has burned and hanged Americans. ISIL may be taking some tactics from the KKK to be honest.

Oh I see, so you're ignoring the modern day KKK in favor of the one that existed 50 years ago and are of course ignoring the violence coming from the modern day radical left because it doesn't fit your worldview.

Also the KKK never owned any part of the Middle East so I guess according to your own logic this is a failed comparison. SAD!

My bad. I didn't realize you were herping and derping quite this hard.

[Berubeo21]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/steve-scalise-congress-shot-alexandria-virginia.html
Thankfully, probably like most left wing lunatics, he was a terrible shot.

[Tgo01]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/steve-scalise-congress-shot-alexandria-virginia.html
Thankfully, probably like most left wing lunatics, he was a terrible shot.

Oh yeah, how could I forget that one?

Not to mention this story:

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/08/08/clayton-carter-murder-charge/

A 51-year-old is charged with first degree murder in connection with a shooting in West Goshen Township early Tuesday morning

This is a radical leftist who murdered a Republican committeeman. But let's not discuss facts here.

[Back]

That moment you realize the radical left takes their ques from ISIS:

http://cdn.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2017-08-14-at-7.29.45-PM.jpg

http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/S6.jpg

And what is Baltimore's response: Terrorism DOES pay!


Oh I see, so you're ignoring the modern day KKK in favor of the one that existed 50 years ago and are of course ignoring the violence coming from the modern day radical left because it doesn't fit your worldview.

Also the KKK never owned any part of the Middle East so I guess according to your own logic this is a failed comparison. SAD!

My bad. I didn't realize you were herping and derping quite this hard.

Yeah now you're playing games dude. The bolded part of your statement is asinine. But I think you already know that.

[Back]

Oh yeah, how could I forget that one?

Not to mention this story:

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/08/08/clayton-carter-murder-charge/

A 51-year-old is charged with first degree murder in connection with a shooting in West Goshen Township early Tuesday morning

This is a radical leftist who murdered a Republican committeeman. But let's not discuss facts here.

Neither individuals are part of a larger organization who promotes violence or murder.

[Tgo01]

Yeah now you're playing games dude. The bolded part of your statement is asinine. But I think you already know that.

Yes, Antifa's actions are terrorism. It fits all of the definitions. They even topple statues they don't like. You couldn't get a more perfect example of a domestic terror group if you tried.

[Tgo01]

Neither individuals are part of a larger organization who promotes violence or murder.

Tgo01: Look at these Antifa fucks attacking people and using intimidation.
Back: Doesn't count. The KKK 60 years ago was worse.
Tgo01: How about this leftist lunatic who attempted to murder Republicans and this leftist lunatic who did murder a Republican?
Back: Doesn't count. They aren't part of an organization.
Tgo01: ...
Back: Did I mention the KKK was pretty bad about 100 years ago? Here are some black and white photos to prove my point.

[Tgo01]

Hey here's a professor who asked for a white genocide:

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Drexel-officials-Professor-George-Ciccariello-Mahers-White-Genocide-tweet-was-utterly-reprehensible.html


"All I Want for Christmas is White Genocide," associate professor of politics and global studies George Ciccariello-Maher wrote on Christmas Eve.

[Back]

Yes, Antifa's actions are terrorism. It fits all of the definitions. They even topple statues they don't like. You couldn't get a more perfect example of a domestic terror group if you tried.

Show us where ANTIFA toppled a statue.

[Back]

Tgo01: Look at these Antifa fucks attacking people and using intimidation.
Back: Doesn't count. The KKK 60 years ago was worse.
Tgo01: How about this leftist lunatic who attempted to murder Republicans and this leftist lunatic who did murder a Republican?
Back: Doesn't count. They aren't part of an organization.
Tgo01: ...
Back: Did I mention the KKK was pretty bad about 100 years ago? Here are some black and white photos to prove my point.

Not quite how the conversation went. Again all you have are false equivalencies. Apples and oranges are fruits but that does not make them identical.

[Back]

Hey here's a professor who asked for a white genocide:

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Drexel-officials-Professor-George-Ciccariello-Mahers-White-Genocide-tweet-was-utterly-reprehensible.html

Not cool. But not a member of an organization who promotes violence, murder, and racism.

[Tgo01]

Show us where ANTIFA toppled a statue.

Okay, Back, you win. I clearly cannot win an argument against someone who insists on shoving their heads in the ground whenever facts are presented to them they don't like.

Back: There is no violence from the far left!
Tgo01: What about this, and this, and this, and oh yeah that over there?
Back: None of those count because the KKK was pretty bad 120 years ago. Have you seen the black and white photos?

I don't understand why people CHOOSE to be ignorant, because at this point Back that is what you are doing. You aren't just ignorant because you don't know any better, you are choosing to be ignorant because your political motives are more important to you than facts. Just be sure to blame the racists the next time there is violence and ignore all of the shit the left does because clearly your politics are more important to you than human life.

[Tgo01]

Okay, Back, you win. I clearly cannot win an argument against someone who insists on shoving their heads in the ground whenever facts are presented to them they don't like.

Back: There is no violence from the far left!
Tgo01: What about this, and this, and this, and oh yeah that over there?
Back: None of those count because the KKK was pretty bad 120 years ago. Have you seen the black and white photos?

I don't understand why people CHOOSE to be ignorant, because at this point Back that is what you are doing. You aren't just ignorant because you don't know any better, you are choosing to be ignorant because your political motives are more important to you than facts. Just be sure to blame the racists the next time there is violence and ignore all of the shit the left does because clearly your politics are more important to you than human life.

It was also my bad for letting Back successfully distract me the way he did. I'm usually better than this. Notice how I started out pointing out the bad actions of the RADICAL LEFT, as in the far left in general, and he turned it around and said "Well Antifa! And these people aren't part of any group!"

You're right, Back, some of those people aren't part of a particular terrorist group, they are part of the FAR RADICAL LEFT that I mentioned in my FIRST POST. Stop with the distraction bullshit, it gets so tiresome here on the PC.

Tgo01: Hey guys! The far left is pretty bad! They are like terrorists!
Back: Not really.
Tgo01: What about this professor who literally called for white genocide?
Back: Yeah but he isn't part of any organization so it's okay.
Tgo01: /Ultimate mega nuclear powered forehead smack

[Back]

Okay, Back, you win. I clearly cannot win an argument against someone who insists on shoving their heads in the ground whenever facts are presented to them they don't like.

Back: There is no violence from the far left!
Tgo01: What about this, and this, and this, and oh yeah that over there?
Back: None of those count because the KKK was pretty bad 120 years ago. Have you seen the black and white photos?

I don't understand why people CHOOSE to be ignorant, because at this point Back that is what you are doing. You aren't just ignorant because you don't know any better, you are choosing to be ignorant because your political motives are more important to you than facts. Just be sure to blame the racists the next time there is violence and ignore all of the shit the left does because clearly your politics are more important to you than human life.

Go back and read the thread. You are being very dishonest about my statements. This is why I can't take you seriously. You are seriously making false statements when we just had this whole conversation a few minutes ago.

[Tgo01]

Go back and read the thread. You are being very dishonest about my statements. This is why I can't take you seriously. You are seriously making false statements when we just had this whole conversation a few minutes ago.

I'm actually being more than generous with your comments.

I mentioned the radical left being like terrorists and said they were taking their queues from ISIS. You said it's an unfair comparison because the radical left hasn't taken over parts of the Middle East and a more fair comparison to ISIS is the KKK, because we all remember when the KKK controlled parts of the Middle East.

I then said the radical left engages in fear tactics and attacks to silence speech they don't like. You asked for examples. I provided plenty of examples. You ignored said examples and pivoted back to how horrible the KKK was back in their heyday, which was at least 60 years ago.

You then latch onto this distraction bullshit by saying I "mentioned" Antifa and then you began to focus on particular groups/organizations when all I said from the VERY FIRST POST was the radical left was engaging in some terrorist actions. You still for some reason ignore all of the examples I provided of Antifa being dangerous fucking animals.

Someone then mentions the targeting of Republicans at a baseball game. Your response? Not part of a group. Doesn't count.

I mention a radical leftist literally murdering a Republican committeeman. Your response? Not part of a group. Doesn't count.

I then mention a professor literally asking for a white genocide. Your response? Not part of a group. Doesn't count.

Please explain to me how I have been unfair to your statements or misrepresented you in the slightest bit.

[Back]

Dude you have not provided any evidence of ANTIFA being dangerous fucking animals. The first thing I responded to was you saying radical left being like ISIS. I think we've covered all of that. The point being you making false equivalencies.

[Tgo01]

Dude you have not provided any evidence of ANTIFA being dangerous fucking animals.

What the fuck? Are you now just literally ignoring all of the links and pics I provided showing Antifa being dangerous?


The first thing I responded to was you saying radical left being like ISIS. I think we've covered all of that. The point being you making false equivalencies.

A radical leftist has attempted to murder Republican congresspeople because of politics.

A radical leftist has murdered a Republican committeeman because of politics.

A radical leftist (actually several) have called for white genocide.

Radical leftists have toppled a statue they don't like.

Radical leftists assault people with baseball bats and pepper sprays because of politics.

Radical leftists have taken over college campuses, shut down college campuses, and have banned white people from certain parts of college campuses.

How is this NOT like ISIS? Oh right, because they haven't literally taken over parts of the Middle East. I forgot about your stellar argument making.

[Stumplicker]

What the fuck? Are you now just literally ignoring all of the links and pics I provided showing Antifa being dangerous?



A radical leftist has attempted to murder Republican congresspeople because of politics.

A radical leftist has murdered a Republican committeeman because of politics.

A radical leftist (actually several) have called for white genocide.

Radical leftists have toppled a statue they don't like.

Radical leftists assault people with baseball bats and pepper sprays because of politics.

Radical leftists have taken over college campuses, shut down college campuses, and have banned white people from certain parts of college campuses.

How is this NOT like ISIS? Oh right, because they haven't literally taken over parts of the Middle East. I forgot about your stellar argument making.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

Post-2001[edit]
As of June 2015, right-wing attacks since the September 11 attacks (9/11) had claimed more lives (48) than attacks committed by jihadists (26).[38] Thereafter, jihadist terrorist attacks (the 2015 San Bernardino attack and the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting) raised the Islamic extremist death toll above that caused by right-wing extremists. As of July 2016, the New America Foundation placed the number killed in terrorist attacks in the U.S. (since 9/11) as follows: 94 killed in jihadist terrorist attacks, 50 killed in far-right attacks, and 5 killed in far-left attacks.[39]

New America's tally shows right-wing terrorist attacks causing 68 fatalities since September 11, 2001. These were:[39]

The 2017 murder by driving a car into counter-protestors there to protest against the alt-right in Charlottesville, Virginia (1 killed).
The 2017 Portland train attack (2 killed),
The 2017 stabbing of Timothy Caughman in New York City (1 killed),
The 2017 shooting of three Indian men in a bar in Olathe Kansas (1 killed),
The 2015 Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting (3 killed),
The 2015 Charleston church shooting (9 killed),
The 2014 ambush attack on Las Vegas police officers (5 killed),
The 2014 Overland Park Jewish Community Center shooting in Kansas (3 killed),
The 2014 Pennsylvania State Police barracks attack in Blooming Grove, Pennsylvania (1 killed),
A 2012 tri-state killing spree by white supremacists, David Pedersen and Holly Grigsby (4 killed),
A 2012 ambush of St. John the Baptist Parish, Louisiana police (2 killed),
The 2012 Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting (6 killed),
The 2011 FEAR group attacks (3 killed),
A murder in 2010 in Carlisle, Pennsylvania (1 killed),
A 2010 suicide attack by airplane in Austin, Texas (1 killed),
The 2009 shooting of Pittsburgh police officers (3 killed),
The 2009 United States Holocaust Memorial Museum shooting (1 killed),
The 2009 assassination of George Tiller (1 killed),
The 2009 murders of Raul and Brisenia Flores in Pima County, Arizona (2 killed),
The 2009 murders in Brockton, Massachusetts (2 killed),
The 2008 Knoxville Unitarian Universalist church shooting (2 killed),
And the 2004 bank robbery in Tulsa, Oklahoma (1 killed).
Other recent events include:

The 2017 Transylvania University stabbing[40] (0 killed),
The 2016 Comet Ping Pong shooting (0 killed).
According to the Government Accountability Office of the United States, 73% of violent extremist incidents that resulted in deaths since September 12, 2001 were caused by right wing extremists groups.[41][42]

[Androidpk]

The last time the radical left was considered more dangerous than the radical right in the US was back in the 1970's.

[Tgo01]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

Post-2001[edit]
As of June 2015, right-wing attacks since the September 11 attacks (9/11) had claimed more lives (48) than attacks committed by jihadists (26).[38] Thereafter, jihadist terrorist attacks (the 2015 San Bernardino attack and the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting) raised the Islamic extremist death toll above that caused by right-wing extremists. As of July 2016, the New America Foundation placed the number killed in terrorist attacks in the U.S. (since 9/11) as follows: 94 killed in jihadist terrorist attacks, 50 killed in far-right attacks, and 5 killed in far-left attacks.[39]

New America's tally shows right-wing terrorist attacks causing 68 fatalities since September 11, 2001. These were:[39]

The 2017 murder by driving a car into counter-protestors there to protest against the alt-right in Charlottesville, Virginia (1 killed).
The 2017 Portland train attack (2 killed),
The 2017 stabbing of Timothy Caughman in New York City (1 killed),
The 2017 shooting of three Indian men in a bar in Olathe Kansas (1 killed),
The 2015 Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting (3 killed),
The 2015 Charleston church shooting (9 killed),
The 2014 ambush attack on Las Vegas police officers (5 killed),
The 2014 Overland Park Jewish Community Center shooting in Kansas (3 killed),
The 2014 Pennsylvania State Police barracks attack in Blooming Grove, Pennsylvania (1 killed),
A 2012 tri-state killing spree by white supremacists, David Pedersen and Holly Grigsby (4 killed),
A 2012 ambush of St. John the Baptist Parish, Louisiana police (2 killed),
The 2012 Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting (6 killed),
The 2011 FEAR group attacks (3 killed),
A murder in 2010 in Carlisle, Pennsylvania (1 killed),
A 2010 suicide attack by airplane in Austin, Texas (1 killed),
The 2009 shooting of Pittsburgh police officers (3 killed),
The 2009 United States Holocaust Memorial Museum shooting (1 killed),
The 2009 assassination of George Tiller (1 killed),
The 2009 murders of Raul and Brisenia Flores in Pima County, Arizona (2 killed),
The 2009 murders in Brockton, Massachusetts (2 killed),
The 2008 Knoxville Unitarian Universalist church shooting (2 killed),
And the 2004 bank robbery in Tulsa, Oklahoma (1 killed).
Other recent events include:

The 2017 Transylvania University stabbing[40] (0 killed),
The 2016 Comet Ping Pong shooting (0 killed).
According to the Government Accountability Office of the United States, 73% of violent extremist incidents that resulted in deaths since September 12, 2001 were caused by right wing extremists groups.[41][42]

Nice deflection.

"I can't defend the radical left on this topic so Imma deflect to the radical right!"

Keep on herping and derping.

[Ashliana]

The last time the radical left was considered more dangerous than the radical right in the US was back in the 1970's.

Hey. Didn't you read what Tgo said? Some random 80 pound, rainbow-haired activist called for "white genocide" on Twitter. GENOCIDE. Why won't you take Shaniqua Jones seriously? The ovens are firing up already.

Embrace the Mayocide.

[Back]

What the fuck? Are you now just literally ignoring all of the links and pics I provided showing Antifa being dangerous?



A radical leftist has attempted to murder Republican congresspeople because of politics.

A radical leftist has murdered a Republican committeeman because of politics.

A radical leftist (actually several) have called for white genocide.

Radical leftists have toppled a statue they don't like.

Radical leftists assault people with baseball bats and pepper sprays because of politics.

Radical leftists have taken over college campuses, shut down college campuses, and have banned white people from certain parts of college campuses.

How is this NOT like ISIS? Oh right, because they haven't literally taken over parts of the Middle East. I forgot about your stellar argument making.

I think the confusion comes from you lumping all of them into ANTIFA where none of them have been proven to, have claimed they are, or otherwise tied to them. ANTIFA's main goal is to fight racism according to reports about them.

[Stumplicker]

Nice deflection.

"I can't defend the radical left on this topic so Imma deflect to the radical right!"

Keep on herping and derping.

Uh, this thread is about the Baltimore City Council removing Confederate statues. You're the one who decided that that equated to left wing radicals being like ISIS and that today's KKK seems to be full of stand up fellas who don't want to kill nobody no how.

Me pointing out that you're an idiot doesn't count as deflection. Unless you're talking about deflecting your deflection of the actual topic by going on a rant about the left wing, which seems to happen in every post you make regardless of the post or thread it's responding to.

In conclusion, deflection. And you're a moron. Stop making conservatives look bad by speaking your mind. It's biased. It's wrong. And it's pretty much awful.

[Neveragain]

ANTIFA's main goal is to fight racism according to reports about them.

LOL. You are fucking dumb.

[Tgo01]

I think the confusion comes from you lumping all of them into ANTIFA where none of them have been proven to, have claimed they are, or otherwise tied to them. ANTIFA's main goal is to fight racism according to reports about them.

I didn't lump them all in with Antifa. As I said in plain English in my first post in this thread I said the RADICAL LEFT. Unless you hate the term "radical" and want me to just refer to them as "the left", but last time I did that I triggered a bunch of whiners telling me how dare I refer to the left that way.

What would make you happy here, Back? Talk to me. Would you like me to stop talking about the bad actions people on your side of the political spectrum engage in so you can continue pretending only the far right does bad shit?

[Neveragain]

Hey. Didn't you read what Tgo said? Some random 80 pound, rainbow-haired activist called for "white genocide" on Twitter. GENOCIDE. Why won't you take Shaniqua Jones seriously? The ovens are firing up already.

Embrace the Mayocide.

I know, we should never take women seriously.

[Tgo01]

Uh, this thread is about the Baltimore City Council removing Confederate statues. You're the one who decided that that equated to left wing radicals being like ISIS and that today's KKK seems to be full of stand up fellas who don't want to kill nobody no how.

Yes, and my post tied into Baltimore removing the statues because I said they were rewarding terrorists. Why is English so hard for people to understand today?


Me pointing out that you're an idiot doesn't count as deflection.

Trying to defend radical leftists by pointing out crimes committed by the far right is the exact definition of deflection. Also don't use words like "idiot", you fled to the new safe space to get away from such hate speech, didn't you? Idiot.


In conclusion, deflection. And you're a moron. Stop making conservatives look bad by speaking your mind. It's biased. It's wrong. And it's pretty much awful.

My God, Stumplicker. Maybe you should stop visiting your safe space as much as you. I think you have somehow gotten dumber since you've been going there.

Tgo01: Hey radical leftists are dangerous, look at all of these examples.
Stumplicker: Here is a list of far right attacks.
Tgo01: Why the deflection?
Stumplicker: No! YOU are deflecting.
Tgo01: ...

[Tgo01]

ANTIFA's main goal is to fight racism according to reports about them.

Holy shit.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/35/3511d9767c96ce281df5a9a69f6b88ed5654af83fe3ca8a1b9 9b2d225d1ad268.jpg

[Tgo01]

Oh yeah, all this talk about dangerous radical leftists, how about that Black Lives Matter sympathizer who murdered like 4 cops? Does he not count either?

If we just ignore all of the bad things the far left does, then the far left sounds pretty reasonable.

[Gelston]

http://arfarfarf.com/fremont/photos/leninstatue.jpg

That statue should be taken down next. Statue of Lenin in Washington state.

[Stumplicker]

Yes, and my post tied into Baltimore removing the statues because I said they were rewarding terrorists. Why is English so hard for people to understand today?

What you said was "LEFT WING TERRORISTS" in response to the aftermath right wing terror act, which is what this thread is about. It took you zero prompting to go "LEFT WING TERROR" instantly in response to a right wing terror act's aftermath. What the fuck do Left Wing Terrorist have to do with a right wing terror act? Let me save you some time: They have nothing to do with a right wing terror act.



Trying to defend radical leftists by pointing out crimes committed by the far right is the exact definition of deflection. Also don't use words like "idiot", you fled to the new safe space to get away from such hate speech, didn't you? Idiot.

The only person who has said anything in this thread about left wing terrorists is you. They're not mentioned in the original post. They're not mentioned in the linked article. They're mentioned by you, and you alone, for zero reason other than maybe to take the focus off of the fact that the statues were taken down in response to a right wing terror act.




Tgo01: Hey radical leftists are dangerous, look at all of these examples.
Stumplicker: Here is a list of far right attacks.
Tgo01: Why the deflection?
Stumplicker: No! YOU are deflecting.
Tgo01: ...

You're not stupid enough to not know you're wrong here. You're just a dogshit human being and will never admit to being wrong, so I'll leave this part of the quote here to speak for itself. I hope someday you get the help you need to socialize like a normal human being.

Until then, stop making conservatives look bad by acting like yourself.

[Tgo01]

http://arfarfarf.com/fremont/photos/leninstatue.jpg

That statue should be taken down next. Statue of Lenin in Washington state.

Nope. Communism for some reason is supported by the left. We only take down statues that would appease the terrorist far left.

[Tgo01]

What you said was "LEFT WING TERRORISTS" in response to the aftermath right wing terror act

Uh, no? What I said was "RADICAL LEFT TERRORISTS" in response to Baltimore's response to other radical left terrorists taking down a statue. Do you English?


The only person who has said anything in this thread about left wing terrorists is you. They're not mentioned in the original post.

So? My post still had to do with the statue being taken down. That was like, the entire point of my post. Not sure how you think that's a deflection. Oh I get it! I didn't kowtow to the narrative that ONLY the far right is hateful and dangerous and thus I'm a racist sexist Nazi. I sometimes forget how simple minded people such as yourself are.


You're not stupid enough to not know you're wrong here. You're just a dogshit human being and will never admit to being wrong, so I'll leave this part of the quote here to speak for itself. I hope someday you get the help you need to socialize like a normal human being.

Number of "meanie head" posts made by Stumplicker since he fled to his safe space: 2

Keep'em coming you hypocritical douche bag. I love laughing at low lifes such as yourself.

[Stumplicker]

So? My post still had to do with the statue being taken down. That was like, the entire point of my post. Not sure how you think that's a deflection. Oh I get it! I didn't kowtow to the narrative that ONLY the far right is hateful and dangerous and thus I'm a racist sexist Nazi. I sometimes forget how simple minded people such as yourself are.


Quote the part of any post I've ever made where I or anyone said anything about the right having the only fanatics. I'll wait. Can't find it? Oh right, because it doesn't exist. Don't let a little thing like a complete lack of evidence stop you from making a counter argument to something that was never said.

It's kind of like going into a hate spiral about left wing terrorists in response to a right wing terrorist plowing his car into some people and causing statues to get taken down. He's another idiot making conservatives look bad. You should look him up. I'm sure you'd get along swimmingly.


Keep'em coming you hypocritical douche bag. I love laughing at low lifes such as yourself.

The funny party is, I don't even need to keep them coming. Anyone who's ever spoken to you knows without a doubt that you are a worthless piece of garbage. I'm sure that extends into your real life as well, which is why you spend so much time in a frothing rage here. poundsign freespeech.

The reason I keep doing it is because I subscribe to your theory about Trump where repeating a thing loudly and often makes it true. There's plenty of evidence to back it up, but it's really not necessary so long as I remind you at least once a week how shitty you really are.

[Neveragain]

http://arfarfarf.com/fremont/photos/leninstatue.jpg

That statue should be taken down next. Statue of Lenin in Washington state.

When I was in Seattle I was going to do a photo shoot of this statue but because I was wearing my biker gear the entire pier was about to riot because of my mere existence.

If you ever want to get a feel of what these fucktards are about, take a stroll down the Seattle pier as a white dude wearing a t-shirt and blue jeans. Good luck, you will need it. If you make it passed the pan handlers a higher power is looking over you.

[Tgo01]

Quote the part of any post I've ever made where I or anyone said anything about the right having the only fanatics.

LOL! This has been the narrative for the past several days! Not so much that the left doesn't have fanatics, but that you can't call out their dangerous acts. You really have no clue what is happening or what is being discussed do ya? But you'll come in here and share your uneducated opinion with the class and act like you know it all.


There's plenty of evidence to back it up, but it's really not necessary so long as I remind you at least once a week how shitty you really are.

Number of "meanie head" posts made by Stumplicker since he fled to his safe space: 3

[Gelston]

BTW, our city council voted to keep this up. It is infront of our Courthouse. We were also once Capital of the Confederacy after Richmond fell.

http://www.edusolution.com/myblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Confederate-statue.jpg

[Tgo01]

BTW, our city council voted to keep this up. It is infront of our Courthouse. We were also once Capital of the Confederacy after Richmond fell.

http://www.edusolution.com/myblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Confederate-statue.jpg

What a bunch of racists.

[Berubeo21]

The bottom line is, statues aren't the solution to any of this. They are just another thing in the target of people who keep racism alive, because its literally a part of their identity. Instead of moving on and realizing that this shit was hashed out a hundred years ago, they throw it back in everyone's face every chance that arrises. Imagine a married couple, one person slips up and makes a bad decision, for this instance lets use an affair as an example. Will the relationship ever be mended if the victim constantly throws the affair in the face of the accused? So you get rid of anything relating to that affair, apologize and do everything that you can to show your love for each other. This race card is very similar, there are people who would be out of a job and identity if it was not for race baiting.

[Gelston]

What a bunch of racists.

Jokes on you, the city is majority black, the city council is majority black, the mayor is a black woman, and the police is majority black with a black chief.

[Stumplicker]

LOL! This has been the narrative for the past several days! Not so much that the left doesn't have fanatics, but that you can't call out their dangerous acts. You really have no clue what is happening or what is being discussed do ya? But you'll come in here and share your uneducated opinion with the class and act like you know it all.


Things being YOUR narrative do not make them narratives shared by everyone. I can see how you might think it is, having surrounded yourself by only viewpoints that support a frothing rage against the left, but normal people realize that the other side is also composed largely of normal people and are able to justify their responses with things like facts and evidence rather than only blind hatred and the aforementioned frothing rage.



Number of "meanie head" posts made by Stumplicker since he fled to his safe space: 3

Make it four, you waste of oxygen. I'm sorry that society has failed you so fully that you think it's okay to act in the manner you do. Historically, societies didn't mollycoddle people like you into surviving 30+ years without serious consequence.

[Tgo01]

Jokes on you, the city is majority black, the city council is majority black, the mayor is a black woman, and the police is majority black with a black chief.

Self hating racists! The worst kind!

[Tgo01]

Things being YOUR narrative do not make them narratives shared by everyone. I can see how you might think it is, having surrounded yourself by only viewpoints that support a frothing rage against the left, but normal people realize that the other side is also composed largely of normal people and are able to justify their responses with things like facts and evidence rather than only blind hatred and the aforementioned frothing rage.



Make it four, you waste of oxygen. I'm sorry that society has failed you so fully that you think it's okay to act in the manner you do. Historically, societies didn't mollycoddle people like you into surviving 30+ years without serious consequence.

Number of "meanie head" posts made by Stumplicker since he fled to his safe space: 4

[Latrinsorm]

That statue should be taken down next. Statue of Lenin in Washington state.Who's stopping you?

Oh man, I just got it. The real reason you guys hate the left so much is they have the courage to actually act on their beliefs, and you guys are so scared you hide in your snowflake safe spaces online. It's not the red of your necks, it's the green in your eyes.
this shit was hashed out a hundred years agoThis would come as quite a surprise to Mildred Loving, Oliver Brown, Bruce Boynton, and would really embarrass President Lyndon Johnson. He threw away his chance at being re-elected President when civil rights had already been hashed out fifty years earlier! Wow, his face would be so red.

[Gelston]

Who's stopping you?

Oh man, I just got it. The real reason you guys hate the left so much is they have the courage to actually act on their beliefs, and you guys are so scared you hide in your snowflake safe spaces online. It's not the red of your necks, it's the green in your eyes.This would come as quite a surprise to Mildred Loving, Oliver Brown, Bruce Boynton, and would really embarrass President Lyndon Johnson. He threw away his chance at being re-elected President when civil rights had already been hashed out fifty years earlier! Wow, his face would be so red.

Because I follow the law? Also, I don't live there, so I honestly don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck what is happening in Baltimore either. Talk about our stuff here, then I do, because that is my tax dollars.

[Steve]

Personally I think it's appalling that history is being destroyed because people want to politicize in 2017 something that happened in the 1860s. To this day, by people on both sides of the Mason Dixon line consider Robert E. Lee one of the greatest military leaders history has ever seen. Likewise, names like James Longstreet and Thomas Jackson are equally revered because of both their service in the civil war and their service with distinction prior.

Maryland showed a good deal of sympathy to the Confederacy because it was being held in the union by force due to its location. It stands to reason that statues were erected. The act of tearing them down by itself would not be as bad as it is based on two things:

1) The reason they're being torn down is stupid in this case and politically charged.

2) Support for tearing them down is done largely by people who want to pretend that history never happened, and have never been acquainted with the idea that history tends to repeat itself, especially when you plug your ears and go "lalalalalala" instead of remembering it.

How many people would flip the fuck out if tomorrow a story broke about a Vietnamese man being beaten brutally and in response we tore down the Vietnam War Memorial? That's another shameful event in this country's history, but we remember it and build monuments because it's important to remember.

[RichardCranium]

Jokes on you, the city is majority black, the city council is majority black, the mayor is a black woman, and the police is majority black with a black chief.

This has been the narrative of most black folks I've talked to about it. They almost to a person say fuck neo-Nazi's, fuck racism, who gives a fuck about some statues.

[Back]

This has been the narrative of most black folks I've talked to about it. They almost to a person say fuck neo-Nazi's, fuck racism, who gives a fuck about some statues.

Gee. I wonder why.

[RichardCranium]

Gee. I wonder why.

Probably because they have better things to worry about, like actual racism.

[Latrinsorm]

Personally I think it's appalling that history is being destroyed because people want to politicize in 2017 something that happened in the 1860s. To this day, by people on both sides of the Mason Dixon line consider Robert E. Lee one of the greatest military leaders history has ever seen. Likewise, names like James Longstreet and Thomas Jackson are equally revered because of both their service in the civil war and their service with distinction prior.

Maryland showed a good deal of sympathy to the Confederacy because it was being held in the union by force due to its location. It stands to reason that statues were erected. The act of tearing them down by itself would not be as bad as it is based on two things:

1) The reason they're being torn down is stupid in this case and politically charged.

2) Support for tearing them down is done largely by people who want to pretend that history never happened, and have never been acquainted with the idea that history tends to repeat itself, especially when you plug your ears and go "lalalalalala" instead of remembering it.

How many people would flip the fuck out if tomorrow a story broke about a Vietnamese man being beaten brutally and in response we tore down the Vietnam War Memorial? That's another shameful event in this country's history, but we remember it and build monuments because it's important to remember.I promise you that every single person tearing down Confederate monuments will vociferously criticize the sins of the Confederacy, at great lengths, whether you want them to or not.

The 'liberals want to stop talking about the Confederacy' angle is easily the most hilariously bad reasoning of all time.

[Gelston]

I promise you that every single person tearing down Confederate monuments will vociferously criticize the sins of the Confederacy, at great lengths, whether you want them to or not.

The 'liberals want to stop talking about the Confederacy' angle is easily the most hilariously bad reasoning of all time.

Do you derp while you derp?

[Steve]

I promise you that every single person tearing down Confederate monuments will vociferously criticize the sins of the Confederacy, at great lengths, whether you want them to or not.

The 'liberals want to stop talking about the Confederacy' angle is easily the most hilariously bad reasoning of all time.

Perhaps I chose my wording poorly. The people whom I have heard speak at length, tweet at 140, or post on Facebook about the Confederacy and why we should tear down statues and ban the Confederate flag, have done so in the absolutely uneducated way possible. And that's even worse than racism to me. In a few hundred years, historically speaking, the US and its politics will likely be gone, or at least unrecognizable. But deleting history out of ignorance or some other unrelated cause is a time honored tradition that needs to end. It didn't start at, but it first made the mainstream media upon the burning of the Library at Alexandria, and nobody has learned a goddamned thing from the mistake.

[~Rocktar~]

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[Latrinsorm]

Perhaps I chose my wording poorly. The people whom I have heard speak at length, tweet at 140, or post on Facebook about the Confederacy and why we should tear down statues and ban the Confederate flag, have done so in the absolutely uneducated way possible. And that's even worse than racism to me.Just to be clear, you think Facebook posts are worse than racism? That's what you're going with?
In a few hundred years, historically speaking, the US and its politics will likely be gone, or at least unrecognizable. But deleting history out of ignorance or some other unrelated cause is a time honored tradition that needs to end. It didn't start at, but it first made the mainstream media upon the burning of the Library at Alexandria, and nobody has learned a goddamned thing from the mistake.Like I said, literally every single person you criticize will be VERY HAPPY to tell you how bad the Confederacy is. Talking about it at great length and publishing it repeatedly is the opposite of deleting history. It is cementing history.

The only people in this discussion who are deleting history are the people who ignore Article 1 Section 9 Clause 4 of the Confederate Constitution, the Cornerstone Speech, and otherwise want to pretend the Confederacy and all its proponents were anything but an avid enshrinement and bloody defense of slavery.

[Tgo01]

8800

I meme'd this on the first page. Prepare to be called a racist bigoted Nazi and for a "lesson" in how it doesn't matter how violent the left is because the far right does bad things too!

[drauz]

I would be surprised if the people taking down the monuments could explain why, in any sort of detail, other than "its racist".

[Steve]

Just to be clear, you think Facebook posts are worse than racism?

No. Erasing history is though, which is what I said. But you know that.


Like I said, literally every single person you criticize will be VERY HAPPY to tell you how bad the Confederacy is. Talking about it at great length and publishing it repeatedly is the opposite of deleting history. It is cementing history.

The only people in this discussion who are deleting history are the people who ignore Article 1 Section 9 Clause 4 of the Confederate Constitution, the Cornerstone Speech, and otherwise want to pretend the Confederacy and all its proponents were anything but an avid enshrinement and bloody defense of slavery.

Ah, I didn't realize you were part of the group I was trying to make an example of. I'll tell you what. Let's finish this discussion tomorrow, twitter fella. We'll conference in with some other experts. Does 1 PM EST work for you? 773-702-8397. Ask for Professor Holt. If anyone else would like to join in, we can conference up to 12 I think.

[Latrinsorm]

No. Erasing history is though, which is what I said. But you know that. Ah, I didn't realize you were part of the group I was trying to make an example of. I'll tell you what. Let's finish this discussion tomorrow, twitter fella. We'll conference in with some other experts. Does 1 PM EST work for you? 773-702-8397. Ask for Professor Holt. If anyone else would like to join in, we can conference up to 12 I think.Sorry Steve the "Pirate", if that is your real job, which I doubt, I plan to be gainfully employed all day tomorrow.

Some Twitter Fella or Gal: 'I have a lot of things to say about why the Confederacy was bad.'
You: 'Why do you want to pretend the Confederacy didn't happen?'

Transcribe your conference call with your experts. I'll be happy to read it later in the evening if it can in any way demonstrate how you aren't saying literally the opposite of what's happening.

[Steve]

Sorry Steve the "Pirate", if that is your real job, which I doubt, I plan to be gainfully employed all day tomorrow.

Some Twitter Fella or Gal: 'I have a lot of things to say about why the Confederacy was bad.'
You: 'Why do you want to pretend the Confederacy didn't happen?'

Transcribe your conference call with your experts. I'll be happy to read it later in the evening if it can in any way demonstrate how you aren't saying literally the opposite of what's happening.

Tomorrow evening then for the call? Will have to be offsite but should not be an issue to set up. Just let me know your best time and I'll send you a PM tomorrow with the details.

I'm not going to let you get away from this one without you trying to pass off your wikipedia-fu level of knowledge to some actual experts. You seem like a guy who likes to consider himself intelligent. These forums are hardly the place for that. Let's bring it into the real world for some real conversation if you feel you're that much of an expert.

[Latrinsorm]

Tomorrow evening then for the call? Will have to be offsite but should not be an issue to set up. Just let me know your best time and I'll send you a PM tomorrow with the details. I'm not going to let you get away from this one without you trying to pass off your wikipedia-fu level of knowledge to some actual experts. You seem like a guy who likes to consider himself intelligent. These forums are hardly the place for that. Let's bring it into the real world for some real conversation if you feel you're that much of an expert.Sure thing Steve, I should be free at 8:30 PM Eastern. I look forward to spending half an hour correcting all the wildly distorted things you've said about me to your experts.

[~Rocktar~]

I meme'd this on the first page. Prepare to be called a racist bigoted Nazi and for a "lesson" in how it doesn't matter how violent the left is because the far right does bad things too!

Yeah I know

[Fortybox]

Baltimore Quietly Removed All 4 Of Its Confederate Statues Overnight

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Bravo Baltimore. I think we'll see a lot more of this in the coming years.

Awesome. You ready to dismantle the Democratic Party as well? I mean the party has deep roots in racism. Better remove everything.

[Pin]

This thread has officially jumped the shark

[Fortybox]

https://youtu.be/g_a7dQXilCo

[Berubeo21]

Who's stopping you?

Oh man, I just got it. The real reason you guys hate the left so much is they have the courage to actually act on their beliefs, and you guys are so scared you hide in your snowflake safe spaces online. It's not the red of your necks, it's the green in your eyes.This would come as quite a surprise to Mildred Loving, Oliver Brown, Bruce Boynton, and would really embarrass President Lyndon Johnson. He threw away his chance at being re-elected President when civil rights had already been hashed out fifty years earlier! Wow, his face would be so red.
Lyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero, but also a racist who frequently used the N word. The civil rights bill he passed, he called "The nigger bill". So funny how people can ignore such indecencies when it comes to the democratic party.

[Parkbandit]

Number of "meanie head" posts made by Stumplicker since he fled to his safe space: 4

To be historically accurate, Stumplicker fled to HIS safe space quite some time ago.. the website he created to replace the PC. They failed miserably because no one followed him there.

[BriarFox]

Wow. A bunch of you assholes are trying really hard to defend racism through one means or another, whether bad history or false equivalencies or something else.

Here's the bottom line: People ought to have equal rights and respect under the law, and those who want to keep that from being the case are assholes. Anyone *actually* want to argue with that statement?

...

Didn't think so.

[Gelston]

Wow. A bunch of you assholes are trying really hard to defend racism through one means or another, whether bad history or false equivalencies or something else.

Here's the bottom line: People ought to have equal rights and respect under the law, and those who want to keep that from being the case are assholes. Anyone *actually* want to argue with that statement?

...

Didn't think so.

Well, you know, except the people like Back who do disagree with that.

[Berubeo21]

Wow. A bunch of you assholes are trying really hard to defend racism through one means or another, whether bad history or false equivalencies or something else.

Here's the bottom line: People ought to have equal rights and respect under the law, and those who want to keep that from being the case are assholes. Anyone *actually* want to argue with that statement?

...

Didn't think so.

For the most part people do have equal rights and respect under the law, no matter what facebook or MSNBC tries to tell anyone. The issues here are not statues, or confederate flags, or protestors. The issue is the media and democratic party who uses this issue to tally up votes.
Democratic playbook
Step one- identify something bad happening, and dont let it go to waste.
Step two- next election cycle, lie about how you can make it better and promise everyone butterfly's and roses

You know the saying about never letting a crisis go to waste, Politicians have been doing it since the beginning of our country. One quote comes to mind, another from Lyndon Johnson "I'll have niggers voting democrat for 200 years" thanks to the civil rights movement.

[BriarFox]

Democrats, Republicans, giant lizard monsters ... This is the problem with the two-party system. You end up with this Us-Them dichotomy that shits all over reasonable discourse. There are retarded democrats, there are asinine republicans, blah blah. Get shit done and stop yelling at how bad other people are.

[Neveragain]

Democrats, Republicans, giant lizard monsters ... This is the problem with the two-party system. You end up with this Us-Them dichotomy that shits all over reasonable discourse. There are retarded democrats, there are asinine republicans, blah blah. Get shit done and stop yelling at how bad other people are.

We don't have a two-party system, anyone is more than welcome to start a new political party. We have the green party, libertarians, communist party...

All political ideologies are simply a mix of Liberty and Tyranny. Government has an abysmal track record of "fixing" anything. If we are serious about "fixing" things the only way to do it is by fixing yourself, only then will others want to follow step. This whole idea that we can project our ideals is a fools folly, only through self reflection will others willfully follow an ideal.

[Fortybox]

Wow. A bunch of you assholes are trying really hard to defend racism through one means or another, whether bad history or false equivalencies or something else.

Here's the bottom line: People ought to have equal rights and respect under the law, and those who want to keep that from being the case are assholes. Anyone *actually* want to argue with that statement?

...

Didn't think so.

Seems like you are advancing another argument that is different than what the OP said. On the one hand you advocate for equal rights and respect under the law...then on the other say people are assholes for not agreeing with your point of view. Part of what makes this country great is that you will have people with different opinions and they have the right to their point of view even if you disagree with it. It's like you are advocating for free speech but then want to shut up the people you don't agree with. It doesn't work that way, sorry.

My point to the OP was that if these idiots are going to topple statues then they better get ready to topple their own party because it has a huge history of racism and oppression to the very people it now is supposedly protecting.

[Tgo01]

You are perfectly well aware of the differences between ISIS's destruction of priceless cultural relics as part of an oppressive religious regime and the removal of symbols of white supremacy, I presume, so stop being a pain in the ass. ~Briarfox

http://footlights.click/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/picard-forehead-smack-310x165.jpg

ISIS was tearing down Roman shit too, Romans enslaved lots of people and was responsible for lots of deaths.

ISIS also blew up parts of the Tal Afar Citadel which was built by the Ottoman Empire. Slavery was rampant in the Ottoman Empire.

Isn't that where we're drawing the line with this shit? It's okay to take it upon yourself to destroy relics from the past when slavery was okay?

[Kobold]

Roman Times

http://assets.creativity-online.com/images/work/full/s/a/m/Samsung_Coliseum14.jpg


Our Time

http://footage.framepool.com/shotimg/qf/141097855-office-furniture-working-time-cubicle-white-collar-workers.jpg

[Tgo01]

Looks like the ghouls are hellbent on grave desecrating next.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/24/memphis-protesters-take-shovel-to-nathan-bedford-f/


Protesters with a Memphis religious groups took a shovel to Confederate Lt. Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest’s grave and statue in a public park on Wednesday, in an act that many locals are calling vandalism.

“If he’s gone, some of this racism and race-hate might be gone,” Isaac Richmond, of the Commission on Religion and Racism, told a local CBS affiliate. “We got a fresh shovel full, and we hope that everybody else will follow suit and dig him up.”

But they aren't like terrorists! We can't call out their bad actions or we too are white supremacist Nazis!

[Archigeek]

Seems like you are advancing another argument that is different than what the OP said. On the one hand you advocate for equal rights and respect under the law...then on the other say people are assholes for not agreeing with your point of view. Part of what makes this country great is that you will have people with different opinions and they have the right to their point of view even if you disagree with it. It's like you are advocating for free speech but then want to shut up the people you don't agree with. It doesn't work that way, sorry.

My point to the OP was that if these idiots are going to topple statues then they better get ready to topple their own party because it has a huge history of racism and oppression to the very people it now is supposedly protecting.

Not sure you actually read the OP. Here it is:


Bravo Baltimore. I think we'll see a lot more of this in the coming years.

No mention there of party, just someone who thinks it's a good idea to tear down the statues glorifying the leaders of a rebellion that very nearly ended the USA. And pretty much all of these statues didn't even go up until 60+ years after the war, when some southerners were trying to institutionalize discrimination and cement it as normal. That is the history they represent: the history of discrimination in the United States. They represent a time when blacks couldn't use the same drinking fountain or restroom as whites, when they couldn't get a loan to buy a home because of the color of their skin, where they couldn't attend the same schools as whites, or enter many buildings at all, and when they were burned alive and/or lynched without trial. Those statues certainly don't belong in Baltimore.

Yet here we are today, where inexplicably you can't even Godwin a conversation anymore, because Nazis are marching for white supremacy, here, in the United States. A group of people espousing the ideals of Nazis, (whom tens of thousands of Americans fought and died to defeat), think they should just get a hall pass when they put on their swastikas and march in a small Virginia town because they think that what those statues represent is a good thing. I think taking down the statues sends an important message to white supremacists: go away, your ideals do not fit with the ideals of our country today.

[Tgo01]

Yet here we are today, where inexplicably you can't even Godwin a conversation anymore, because Nazis are marching for white supremacy, here, in the United States.

Nazis have been marching in the US long before Trump was sworn in. It just didn't receive as much widespread news coverage nor were the counter protesters acting violent swept under the rug by the media either, because the media has a clear narrative they want to push.


I think taking down the statues sends an important message to white supremacists: go away, your ideals do not fit with the ideals of our country today.

Give me a break. The statue the vandals tore down the other day wasn't any particular figure and the engraving read "In memory of ‘the boys who wore the gray.'"

I know this might come as a shock to many people but not everyone in the south was a racist, that is literally impossible. Also upwards of 200,000 Confederate soldiers were drafted, they didn't join the military to kill them yanks.

But why let things like facts cloud our outrage?

[Methais]

Says the person deflecting. Own your words. You said something incredibly stupid and got called out on it.

Remember when you deflected my post the other day asking you to provide examples to back up your Nazi claims about Tgo and then you pulled a time4fun?


Easy tiger. You're really making some assumptions there. You mention ANTIFA. You had not mentioned that in your post claiming the radical left uses intimidation and violence like ISIL. That is patently false. ANTIFA has not declared a caliphate, has not claimed a large swath of the middle east, does not have a religeous agenda and thats just the tip of the iceburg in comparing the two. We can go on about beheadings, rape, torture, burning people alive in cages and yeah. Your claim is stupid.

I honestly don't understand how it's possible for you to keep becoming more and more retarded every day. I always assumed there was a cap to this but you've shattered that glass ceiling and continue to do it again and again every day.

Stop being such a vagina.


Yes, Antifa's actions are terrorism. It fits all of the definitions. They even topple statues they don't like. You couldn't get a more perfect example of a domestic terror group if you tried.


Dude you have not provided any evidence of ANTIFA being dangerous fucking animals. The first thing I responded to was you saying radical left being like ISIS. I think we've covered all of that. The point being you making false equivalencies.

https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antifa

[Archigeek]

Nazis have been marching in the US long before Trump was sworn in. It just didn't receive as much widespread news coverage nor were the counter protesters acting violent swept under the rug by the media either, because the media has a clear narrative they want to push.

Give me a break. The statue the vandals tore down the other day wasn't any particular figure and the engraving read "In memory of ‘the boys who wore the gray.'"

I know this might come as a shock to many people but not everyone in the south was a racist, that is literally impossible. Also upwards of 200,000 Confederate soldiers were drafted, they didn't join the military to kill them yanks.

But why let things like facts cloud our outrage?

We're talking about statues in Baltimore, removed by the contractor Whiting Turner. I've worked with Whiting Turner, a very respectable contractor that does great work. I'd hardly consider them vandals. None of your facts cloud my outrage against racism in any case.

[Parkbandit]

Democrats, Republicans, giant lizard monsters ... This is the problem with the two-party system. You end up with this Us-Them dichotomy that shits all over reasonable discourse. There are retarded democrats, there are asinine republicans, blah blah. Get shit done and stop yelling at how bad other people are.

You mean people like this asshole?


Wow. A bunch of you assholes are trying really hard to defend racism through one means or another, whether bad history or false equivalencies or something else.

Here's the bottom line: People ought to have equal rights and respect under the law, and those who want to keep that from being the case are assholes. Anyone *actually* want to argue with that statement?

...

Didn't think so.

So, the record for hypocrisy posts is now set at 35 minutes.

Grats.

[Methais]

Quote the part of any post I've ever made where I or anyone said anything about the right having the only fanatics. I'll wait. Can't find it? Oh right, because it doesn't exist. Don't let a little thing like a complete lack of evidence stop you from making a counter argument to something that was never said.

It's kind of like going into a hate spiral about left wing terrorists in response to a right wing terrorist plowing his car into some people and causing statues to get taken down. He's another idiot making conservatives look bad. You should look him up. I'm sure you'd get along swimmingly.



The funny party is, I don't even need to keep them coming. Anyone who's ever spoken to you knows without a doubt that you are a worthless piece of garbage. I'm sure that extends into your real life as well, which is why you spend so much time in a frothing rage here. poundsign freespeech.

The reason I keep doing it is because I subscribe to your theory about Trump where repeating a thing loudly and often makes it true. There's plenty of evidence to back it up, but it's really not necessary so long as I remind you at least once a week how shitty you really are.

Remember when you said we killed Warclaidhm? Remember how gay that was?

[Methais]

Who's stopping you?

Oh man, I just got it. The real reason you guys hate the left so much is they have the courage to actually act on their beliefs, and you guys are so scared you hide in your snowflake safe spaces online. It's not the red of your necks, it's the green in your eyes.This would come as quite a surprise to Mildred Loving, Oliver Brown, Bruce Boynton, and would really embarrass President Lyndon Johnson. He threw away his chance at being re-elected President when civil rights had already been hashed out fifty years earlier! Wow, his face would be so red.

Latrin's mad lol

[BriarFox]

I am really amazed at some of the attempts to conflate people who are rejoicing over symbols of slavery being taken down with ISIS, which made hundreds of Yazidi girls into sex slaves. One of these things is not like the other. Trying to say they're identical is completely disingenuous, and frankly I expected better of you, TGo01. You've got utterly nuts lately.

[BriarFox]

You mean people like this asshole?



So, the record for hypocrisy posts is now set at 35 minutes.

Grats.

You're really stretching.

[Methais]

This has been the narrative of most black folks I've talked to about it. They almost to a person say fuck neo-Nazi's, fuck racism, who gives a fuck about some statues.

Virtue signaling white kids are the majority of the idiots "outraged" by most if not all of today's hot button racial issues when the races they're expressing outrage over for the most part don't even give a shit.

Like that article the other day with all these dumb white kids being outraged over "cultural appropriation" from some mom dressing her kid up as a geisha, then an actual Japanese person shows up and tells them how most Japanese people think it's pretty cool when Americans do shit like that, then proceeded to list all this Japanese stuff that they actually "culturally appropriated" from other countries and cultures. It's in a thread somewhere on here that I'm too lazy to search for.

Same with the whole Ghost In the Shell thing. White leftist kids were all outraged over Scarlet Johansson, while actual Asian people didn't give a shit and thought it was cool.

Most Natives don't give a fuck about the Redskins being called the Redskins either, that's mostly just dumb white kids also.

Come to think of it, I can't think of even one racial and/or minority issue where the group that's supposedly being oppressed has more people outraged over it than retarded white kids outraged over it.

Someone help me out here, there has to be at least 1.

https://pics.onsizzle.com/look-im-helping-meme-gene-12546187.png

[Methais]

Gee. I wonder why.

Stop being Sania Kay.


This Idiot At A Braves Game Thought The ‘K’ Strikeout Count Was Offensive (http://www.craveonline.com/mandatory/1291139-idiot-braves-game-thought-k-strikeout-count-offensive)



Best part:
http://www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2017/07/baseball-fail4-610x703.png

[Neveragain]

I am really amazed at some of the attempts to conflate people who are rejoicing over symbols of slavery being taken down with ISIS, which made hundreds of Yazidi girls into sex slaves. One of these things is not like the other. Trying to say they're identical is completely disingenuous, and frankly I expected better of you, TGo01. You've got utterly nuts lately.

Point us to any time in history where the destruction of historic relics lead to great things?

I often wonder why the Japanese allow this structure to still stand?

https://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/b1dad99/2147483647/resize/1200x%3E/quality/85/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.beam.usnews.com%2F48%2Fab% 2Fb6da2062425196ecea78b027c66e%2Fgettyimages-483051990.jpg

[Tgo01]

We're talking about statues in Baltimore, removed by the contractor Whiting Turner. I've worked with Whiting Turner, a very respectable contractor that does great work. I'd hardly consider them vandals. None of your facts cloud my outrage against racism in any case.

I'm very obviously referring to the vandals that tore down the statue in NC, which prompted Baltimore to remove their statues because they believe in rewarding left wing terrorism.

[Methais]

Perhaps I chose my wording poorly. The people whom I have heard speak at length, tweet at 140, or post on Facebook about the Confederacy and why we should tear down statues and ban the Confederate flag, have done so in the absolutely uneducated way possible. And that's even worse than racism to me. In a few hundred years, historically speaking, the US and its politics will likely be gone, or at least unrecognizable. But deleting history out of ignorance or some other unrelated cause is a time honored tradition that needs to end. It didn't start at, but it first made the mainstream media upon the burning of the Library at Alexandria, and nobody has learned a goddamned thing from the mistake.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd2ydct3rBU

[Methais]

8800

Why do they have a bard in their party?

[Tgo01]

I am really amazed at some of the attempts to conflate people who are rejoicing over symbols of slavery being taken down with ISIS, which made hundreds of Yazidi girls into sex slaves.

So because they are "rejoicing" over the removal of "symbols of slavery" means they can decide to take down statues themselves without silly things like respecting the laws of the land? This makes no sense. ISIS tore down monuments built by civilizations that had slaves too, so I guess their actions are okay too since they are just removing symbols of slavery, right?


One of these things is not like the other.

Tearing down statues without the sanction of the official government of the nation is exactly the same as what ISIS did. How can you possibly say differently?


Trying to say they're identical is completely disingenuous, and frankly I expected better of you, TGo01. You've got utterly nuts lately.

Yes, I know. Being pro free speech and anti leftwing terrorism somehow makes me a Nazi these days. I am fully aware of how fast the left is sliding into utter madness.

[Archigeek]

I'm very obviously referring to the vandals that tore down the statue in NC, which prompted Baltimore to remove their statues because they believe in rewarding left wing terrorism.

Obviously it's not very obvious. I thought Baltimore made a quick decision because they didn't want to deal with the bullshit that Charlottesville Virginia is dealing with. I kinda doubt they took the statues down to avoid vandalism.

[Tgo01]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19861/oops-antifa-protesters-vandalized-peace-monument-emily-zanotti?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro


Antifa protesters marched on Piedmont Park in Atlanta, Georgia this week, bent on destroying the "Confederate monument" they said was encouraging racism in their community. But it was only after they'd vandalized and spray-painted the statue that they realized it was a "peace monument" designed to encourage national healing in the wake of the Civil War.

It's okay though, their hearts were in the right place.

[Tgo01]

Obviously it's not very obvious. I thought Baltimore made a quick decision because they didn't want to deal with the bullshit that Charlottesville Virginia is dealing with. I kinda doubt they took the statues down to avoid vandalism.

Baltimore had already voted on and removed their statues within 24 hours of the vandals tearing down a statue in NC. No one can convince me that's a coincidence.

[Methais]

Roman Times

http://assets.creativity-online.com/images/work/full/s/a/m/Samsung_Coliseum14.jpg


Our Time

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tv/image/1418/67/1418674712232.jpg

Fixed.

[Stumplicker]

Baltimore had already voted on and removed their statues within 24 hours of the vandals tearing down a statue in NC. No one can convince me that's a coincidence.

Considering that your initial, continued, and only "narrative" in response to "White Nationalist lunatic plows car into crowd and murders protester, causing statues to be taken down" has been "LIBERAL TERRORISTS! LIBERAL TERRORISTS! LIBERAL TERRORISTS!", it's not surprising that no one can convince you of anything, you fucking idiot. That isn't a problem with their argument. It's a problem with your brain not working.

[Tgo01]

Considering that your initial, continued, and only "narrative" in response to "White Nationalist lunatic plows car into crowd and murders protester, causing statues to be taken down" has been "LIBERAL TERRORISTS! LIBERAL TERRORISTS! LIBERAL TERRORISTS!", it's not surprising that no one can convince you of anything, you fucking idiot. That isn't a problem with their argument. It's a problem with your brain not working.

Number of "meanie head" posts made by Stumplicker since he fled to his safe space: 5

You never cared one bit about having a "safe space" where people couldn't say hateful things, you only wanted control over what YOU considered to be "hate speech." What a complete waste of oxygen you are.

[Methais]

They represent a time when blacks couldn't use the same drinking fountain or restroom as whites, when they couldn't get a loan to buy a home because of the color of their skin, where they couldn't attend the same schools as whites, or enter many buildings at all, and when they were burned alive and/or lynched without trial. Those statues certainly don't belong in Baltimore.

We had drinking fountains and mortgage loans during the Civil War? Nice.

Also, a Baltimore thread isn't a Baltimore thread without Challenge Pissing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBs455jwb8w

[BriarFox]

So because they are "rejoicing" over the removal of "symbols of slavery" means they can decide to take down statues themselves without silly things like respecting the laws of the land? This makes no sense. ISIS tore down monuments built by civilizations that had slaves too, so I guess their actions are okay too since they are just removing symbols of slavery, right?
I actually agree that people ripping down statues without due process are vandals, but that doesn't mean they're the same as ISIS. The motivations are entirely different. You're trying to equate whole movements and ideologies on the base of one similarity, which is like saying that because a rock is round and the sun is round, the sun is a rock -- but of course it's not.



Tearing down statues without the sanction of the official government of the nation is exactly the same as what ISIS did. How can you possibly say differently?

See above.


Yes, I know. Being pro free speech and anti leftwing terrorism somehow makes me a Nazi these days. I am fully aware of how fast the left is sliding into utter madness.

I'm pro-free speech myself, but the alt right is using "free speech" as a rallying cry to express hateful, racist views. It's a smoke screen; don't buy into it.

[Methais]

I actually agree that people ripping down statues without due process are vandals, but that doesn't mean they're the same as ISIS. The motivations are entirely different. You're trying to equate whole movements and ideologies on the base of one similarity, which is like saying that because a rock is round and the sun is round, the sun is a rock -- but of course it's not.



See above.



I'm pro-free speech myself, but the alt right is using "free speech" as a rallying cry to express hateful, racist views. It's a smoke screen; don't buy into it.

Being for free speech also includes being for hateful speech that you disagree with. Otherwise you only believe in limited speech.

Free speech that has exceptions based on hurt feelings isn't free speech.

[BriarFox]

Being for free speech also includes being for hateful speech that you disagree with. Otherwise you only believe in limited speech.

Free speech that has exceptions based on hurt feelings isn't free speech.

It does, though, on a side note, people totally misunderstand the freedom of speech guaranteed by the First Amendment, which is freedom from government oppression for speaking up, not a carte blanche to say whatever you want without other people getting upset. I pointed out that it's a smoke screen here, though, because the alt right is trying to make a civil rights issue into a freedom of speech issue. It's not a freedom of speech issue; it's a civil rights issue. If you're shouting about how whites are the best race, and I tell you that that's a civil-rights violation and shout back, and you yell that you can say whatever you want (misunderstanding the 1st Amendment and all), you're just trying to distract people from the real issue, which is that you're a racist fuck.

[Androidpk]

It does, though, on a side note, people totally misunderstand the freedom of speech guaranteed by the First Amendment, which is freedom from government oppression for speaking up, not a carte blanche to say whatever you want without other people getting upset. I pointed out that it's a smoke screen here, though, because the alt right is trying to make a civil rights issue into a freedom of speech issue. It's not a freedom of speech issue; it's a civil rights issue. If you're shouting about how whites are the best race, and I tell you that that's a civil-rights violation and shout back, and you yell that you can say whatever you want (misunderstanding the 1st Amendment and all), you're just trying to distract people from the real issue, which is that you're a racist fuck.

+1

[Tgo01]

I actually agree that people ripping down statues without due process are vandals, but that doesn't mean they're the same as ISIS. The motivations are entirely different. You're trying to equate whole movements and ideologies on the base of one similarity, which is like saying that because a rock is round and the sun is round, the sun is a rock -- but of course it's not.

I said they are taking their queues from ISIS, meaning they are emulating at least one aspect of them, which they are.

Just like the asshole who drove his car into a crowd of people was emulating actions taken by terrorists as well.

I'm going to call out terrorist actions when I see them, whether they are committed by people on the left or the right.


but the alt right is using "free speech" as a rallying cry to express hateful, racist views.

That's exactly what free speech is. I don't like it when BLM marches down a street chanting "What do we want? DEAD COPS! When do we want it? NOW!" But I certainly respect their right to say it. I just think everyone should mock them on the internet and move on with their lives.

[Androidpk]

I said they are taking their queues from ISIS, meaning they are emulating at least one aspect of them, which they are.

Vandalism isn't terrorism.

[Methais]

It does, though, on a side note, people totally misunderstand the freedom of speech guaranteed by the First Amendment, which is freedom from government oppression for speaking up, not a carte blanche to say whatever you want without other people getting upset. I pointed out that it's a smoke screen here, though, because the alt right is trying to make a civil rights issue into a freedom of speech issue. It's not a freedom of speech issue; it's a civil rights issue. If you're shouting about how whites are the best race, and I tell you that that's a civil-rights violation and shout back, and you yell that you can say whatever you want (misunderstanding the 1st Amendment and all), you're just trying to distract people from the real issue, which is that you're a racist fuck.

There's no law against just shouting racist things. There is however a law against committing acts of violence because someone hurt your feelings or said stuff you don't like or agree with.

Shouting that whites are the best isn't a civil rights violation either. It's a good way to identify oneself as a piece of shit, but that's about it. But I'd love to hear how mean words are a civil rights violation.

[Tgo01]

It does, though, on a side note, people totally misunderstand the freedom of speech guaranteed by the First Amendment, which is freedom from government oppression for speaking up, not a carte blanche to say whatever you want without other people getting upset.

You're absolutely right, but the law is there to protect people's right to express their free speech as well. That means the local police should be there protecting people who are expressing their free speech on public property. Claiming the government should just turn a blind eye to people being physically attacked because "Well as long as it's not the government shutting down speech!" is absurd.

Also what you're referring to is our constitutional right to free speech, what I (and I imagine a lot of other people) are referring to is our concept of free speech. That is people being able to express their free speech without a third party shutting down their free speech or threatening them or physically attacking them.

It's why I'm such a big proponent of little moderation here on the PC, I don't want thought police telling us we are engaging in wrong think. Does this mean I think it's our constitutional right to post whatever we want here on the PC? Of course not. It's me recognizing that I believe strongly in the concept of free speech, even for little weasels like Stumplicker.


I pointed out that it's a smoke screen here, though, because the alt right is trying to make a civil rights issue into a freedom of speech issue. It's not a freedom of speech issue; it's a civil rights issue. If you're shouting about how whites are the best race, and I tell you that that's a civil-rights violation and shout back, and you yell that you can say whatever you want (misunderstanding the 1st Amendment and all), you're just trying to distract people from the real issue, which is that you're a racist fuck.

I don't care what their motives are, I still recognize their right to free speech on public land and their right to assemble. This means requiring the government to protect them when "counter protesters" show up with baseball bats and pepper spray.

Just like I would be against "counter protesters" showing up with baseball bats at a BLM rally and physically attacking the attendees.

[Tgo01]

Vandalism isn't terrorism.

So when ISIS tore down monuments they were just petty vandals then?

[Methais]

So when ISIS tore down monuments they were just petty vandals then?

JV vandals.

[Tgo01]

JV vandals.

Darn JV vandals!

[Androidpk]

So when ISIS tore down monuments they were just petty vandals then?

When the 82nd Airborne blew up Nazi symbols in Germany was that petty vandalism? As Ashliana would say, ​"Zero self awareness,Tgo."

[Neveragain]

When the 82nd Airborne blew up Nazi symbols in Germany was that petty vandalism? As Ashliana would say, ​"Zero self awareness,Tgo."

Oddly enough after blowing up NAZI symbols we now have NAZI's everywhere.

Thanks for proving the point.

[Methais]

When the 82nd Airborne blew up Nazi symbols in Germany was that petty vandalism? As Ashliana would say, ​"Zero self awareness,Tgo."

But why do you keep pulling a time4fun, someone who also has zero self awareness?

[BriarFox]

I don't care what their motives are, I still recognize their right to free speech on public land and their right to assemble. This means requiring the government to protect them when "counter protesters" show up with baseball bats and pepper spray.

Just like I would be against "counter protesters" showing up with baseball bats at a BLM rally and physically attacking the attendees.

I agree with that. I haven't actually been defending people committing crimes, if you scroll back up. The anti-protesters are certainly not ISIS, though.

[Androidpk]

we now have NAZI's everywhere.

Source

[Neveragain]

Source

The Democrats.

[Androidpk]

The Democrats.

The Democrats are your source for that information? I don't recall any Democrats saying there are Nazis everywhere now because of Nazi symbolism being destroyed in WW2.

[Methais]

there are Nazis everywhere now because of Nazi symbolism being destroyed in WW2.

Someone just said it! Look! ^

[Neveragain]

The Democrats are your source for that information? I don't recall any Democrats saying there are Nazis everywhere now because of Nazi symbolism being destroyed in WW2.

You're a special kind of stupid aren't you.


Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. ~ George Santayana

[Androidpk]

Antifa used baseball bats. Baseball players use baseball bats. Baseball is America's pastime. Therefore Antifa is taking it's queus from American culture.

[Androidpk]

You're a special kind of stupid aren't you.

says the person wishing for a nuclear war :lol:

[Neveragain]

says the person wishing for a nuclear war :lol:

Yes, that's exactly what I'm wishing for. (sadly I need to denote that this is sarcasm)

[Androidpk]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm wishing for. (sadly I need to denote that this is sarcasm)

Do I need to pull up your posts where you were saying we should nuke the Middle east to stop terrorism?

[Tgo01]

When the 82nd Airborne blew up Nazi symbols in Germany was that petty vandalism? As Ashliana would say, ​"Zero self awareness,Tgo."

Please stop comparing our army during WWII to ISIS, it hurts my feelings :(

I can't wait until people start saying I hate the military, even though I almost always side with our military.

[Neveragain]

Do I need to pull up your posts where you were saying we should nuke the Middle east to stop terrorism?

Yes

[Tgo01]

Antifa used baseball bats. Baseball players use baseball bats. Baseball is America's pastime. Therefore Antifa is taking it's queus from American culture.

I would agree with this if baseball players showed up to rallies and started swinging bats at people they disagreed with.

[Androidpk]

I hate the military

.

[Tgo01]

.

https://media.giphy.com/media/4JStXXVC9H4rK/200.gif

[Neveragain]

I steal from people.

We know.

[Androidpk]

I would agree with this if baseball players showed up to rallies and started swinging bats at people they disagreed with.

Cool, let me know when the lefty protesters start enslaving and murdering people they disagree with.

[Androidpk]

We know.

It's open knowledge that I worked for the federal government.

[Tgo01]

Cool, let me know when the lefty protesters start enslaving and murdering people they disagree with.

Tgo01: The radical left is taking their queues from ISIS.
Everyone else: So you're saying they are EXACTLY THE SAME in each and every way?
Tgo01: I...what? No...
Everyone else: YOU'RE A NAZI SYMPATHIZER!!

[Parkbandit]

You're really stretching.

Only if you can't see what you are doing in the 1st post is exactly the "us-them dichotomy" you claim you dislike in the 2nd post that was literally 35 minutes later.

Or you are bi-polar.

Or have multiple personalities.

Or your little brother made one of the posts using your name.

[Androidpk]

Tgo01: The radical left is taking their queues from ISIS.
Everyone else: So you're saying they are EXACTLY THE SAME in each and every way?
Tgo01: I...what? No...
Everyone else: YOU'RE A NAZI SYMPATHIZER!!


I would agree with this if baseball players showed up to rallies and started swinging bats at people they disagreed with.

I never said Antifa and Baseball players were exactly the same, I said they were taking queues from them, so why do you disagree?

[BriarFox]

Only if you can't see what you are doing in the 1st post is exactly the "us-them dichotomy" you claim you dislike in the 2nd post that was literally 35 minutes later.

Or you are bi-polar.

Or have multiple personalities.

Or your little brother made one of the posts using your name.

I don't think you understand my posts.

[Parkbandit]

When the 82nd Airborne blew up Nazi symbols in Germany was that petty vandalism? As Ashliana would say, ​"Zero self awareness,Tgo."

You have to wonder to yourself.. "gee self.. I'm siding with the 3 biggest idiots on this forum: Backlash, time4fun and Ashliana.. maybe I'm just wrong in this case"

And to put the cherry on top, you quote one of them?

Good job pk...

[Neveragain]

Cool, let me know when the lefty protesters start enslaving and murdering people they disagree with.

You need to quit smoking so much grass.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ft_INPi1_U

[Androidpk]

You have to wonder to yourself.. "gee self.. I'm siding with the 3 biggest idiots on this forum: Backlash, time4fun and Ashliana.. maybe I'm just wrong in this case"

And to put the cherry on top, you quote one of them?

Good job pk...

Sometimes I agree with you and Tgo too, I don't discriminate against which idiots I may occasionally share an opinion with.

[Parkbandit]

Sometimes I agree with you and Tgo too, I don't discriminate against which idiots I may occasionally share an opinion with.

If I agree with Backlash on something.. my first inclination is to make sure I didn't have a stroke and lose half my brain, leaving me in a vegetative state.

That's a solid rule to live by here.

[Tgo01]

I never said Antifa and Baseball players were exactly the same, I said they were taking queues from them, so why do you disagree?

Because I have never seen a baseball player go to a rally and start swinging a baseball bat around at people.

Nor are baseball teams formed with the express purpose of beating up people who disagree with them.

You can't even get one similarity right.

[Parkbandit]

I don't think you understand my posts.

No, I understood them fine.

You called one group of people you disagree with, "assholes".. then whined about why we can't get along.

[Tgo01]

Sometimes I agree with you and Tgo too

Sometimes you make sense, sometimes you quote Ashliana unironically.

[Androidpk]

Sometimes you make sense, sometimes you quote Ashliana unironically.

The zero self awareness bit was most certainly not unironically.

[Tgo01]

The zero self awareness bit was most certainly not unironically.

Your face is unironic!

[Androidpk]

Because I have never seen a baseball player go to a rally and start swinging a baseball bat around at people.

Nor are baseball teams formed with the express purpose of beating up people who disagree with them.

You can't even get one similarity right.

The point is it is absurd to suggest that Antifa is taking queues from ISIS just because they commit vandalism.

[Androidpk]

Your face is unironic!

I have a face only your mother could love.

[Androidpk]

And to respond to the rep I got asking why I don't call out the violent left like I do with the violent right:


Antifa are nothing but violent thugs.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?108125-Things-that-made-you-frown-today-(Political)&p=1939860#post1939860

[BriarFox]

No, I understood them fine.

You called one group of people you disagree with, "assholes".. then whined about why we can't get along.

Oh, ok, now I see your point. You interpreted my posts through the PB lens. It all makes sense!

[Parkbandit]

Oh, ok, now I see your point. You interpreted my posts through the PB lens. It all makes sense!

Yea.. that must be it.

No way can BriarFox be a raging hypocrite in 35 minutes flat!

NO WAY!

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/08b93f0123/eKTJdjIERZG5ZJH0Najf_j8.gif

[BriarFox]

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/08b93f0123/eKTJdjIERZG5ZJH0Najf_j8.gif

Hey, finally an honest post about your habits on the PC. Wonders shall never cease.

[Parkbandit]

Hey, finally an honest post about your habits on the PC. Wonders shall never cease.
http://p.fod4.com/p/media/08b93f0123/eKTJdjIERZG5ZJH0Najf_j8.gif

[Crash187]

Hey, finally an honest post about your habits on the PC. Wonders shall never cease.

To be fair, calling folks assholes, and then wondering why you can't get along is kind of dumb.

Me: "Hey let's be friends?"
You: "No you don't agree with me or said something I don't like, you're an asshole."
Me: "ok."
You talking to someone else: "I don't know why people can't get along.

That's basically what just happened.

[Parkbandit]

To be fair, calling folks assholes, and then wondering why you can't get along is kind of dumb.

Me: "Hey let's be friends?"
You: "No you don't agree with me or said something I don't like, you're an asshole."
Me: "ok."
You talking to someone else: "I don't know why people can't get along.

That's basically what just happened.

No, no.. you read it all wrong. He meant assholes in a non-confrontational agreeing type of way.

[Tgo01]

Seattle Mayor Wants Confederate Statue AND Lenin Statue Removed (http://www.dailywire.com/news/19884/seattle-mayor-wants-confederate-statue-and-lenin-hank-berrien?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro)


In the last few days, Seattleites have expressed concerns and frustration over symbols of hate, racism and violence that exist in our city. Not only do these kinds of symbols represent historic injustices, their existence causes pain among those who themselves or whose family members have been impacted by these atrocities. We should remove all these symbols, no matter what political affiliation may have been assigned to them in the decades since they were erected. This includes both confederate memorials and statues idolizing the founder of the authoritarian soviet regime. Both are on private property, but I believe the confederate memorial at Lake View Cemetery and the Lenin statue in Fremont should be removed. We should never forget our history, but we also should not idolize figures who have committed violent atrocities and sought to divide us based on who we are or where we came from.

I'll admit I'm shocked. Let's see which statue(s), if any, get ultimately get removed.

[Androidpk]

Wut?? Why the fuck is there a statue of Lenin in Seattle?? Hipsters are getting out of control!

[Back]

Wut?? Why the fuck is there a statue of Lenin in Seattle?? Hipsters are getting out of control!

Damn. Our communist plot has been discovered!

[Crash187]

Seattle Mayor Wants Confederate Statue AND Lenin Statue Removed (http://www.dailywire.com/news/19884/seattle-mayor-wants-confederate-statue-and-lenin-hank-berrien?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro).

Well shit, by that statement shouldn't all statues of Gen. Sherman be removed. He ordered his men to commit atrocities on his little march. I think today they'd be called war crimes. Nope he was just doing what needed to be done even though the south had lost by that point in all actuality.

[BriarFox]

To be fair, calling folks assholes, and then wondering why you can't get along is kind of dumb.

Me: "Hey let's be friends?"
You: "No you don't agree with me or said something I don't like, you're an asshole."
Me: "ok."
You talking to someone else: "I don't know why people can't get along.

That's basically what just happened.

You should read my posts rather than PB's reframing of them.

[Crash187]

You should read my posts rather than PB's reframing of them.

I read them, problem is no one unless I misread something, is trying to defend racism to any degree. The tearing down of U.S. history is the majority of the problem. It's a dark part of our history but still history none the less. On the flip side of the coin like I said before Sherman committed or did order his soldiers to commit atrocities on the general populace of the south (civilians you know those off limits people). Perhaps we should tear down his monuments too. It's a matter of perspective but calling people assholes defending racism is sure as hell not a productive way to start a dialogue.

[Back]

I read them, problem is no one unless I misread something, is trying to defend racism to any degree. The tearing down of U.S. history is the majority of the problem. It's a dark part of our history but still history none the less. On the flip side of the coin like I said before Sherman committed or did order his soldiers to commit atrocities on the general populace of the south (civilians you know those off limits people). Perhaps we should tear down his monuments too. It's a matter of perspective but calling people assholes defending racism is sure as hell not a productive way to start a dialogue.

I don't consider it erasing history. I call it learning from history. Books aren't being erased. Put the statues in museums.

[Androidpk]

I don't consider it erasing history. I call it learning from history. Books aren't being erased. Put the statues in museums.

Okay but where do you draw the line? What about people calling for the removal of statues depicting George Washington and Thomas Jefferson?

[drauz]

Okay but where do you draw the line? What about people calling for the removal of statues depicting George Washington and Thomas Jefferson?

Or their memorials in D.C.

[Tgo01]

Put the statues in museums.

That's a bullshit solution. No one is being fooled into believing that people that are resorting to literally pulling down statues would be fine with these statues being put in museums.

It's such a bullshit distraction to claim "Hey! Look! We're meeting you halfway!" No. I give it 3 years tops before people start calling for the removal of these statues from museums, if any even make it there to begin with.

[time4fun]

I read them, problem is no one unless I misread something, is trying to defend racism to any degree. The tearing down of U.S. history is the majority of the problem. It's a dark part of our history but still history none the less. On the flip side of the coin like I said before Sherman committed or did order his soldiers to commit atrocities on the general populace of the south (civilians you know those off limits people). Perhaps we should tear down his monuments too. It's a matter of perspective but calling people assholes defending racism is sure as hell not a productive way to start a dialogue.

Statues of war figures are about veneration- not recollection. And these statues were, by and large, erected specifically for the purpose of veneration. It would be inaccurate to treat treat them as somehow neutral representations of the Confederacy. (If such a thing can be said to exist) They definitely were not erected as warnings against it.

Secondly- you say this has nothing to do with racism. So why have white supremecy, neo-nazi groups fixated so strongly on them?

What is it exactly about these monuments they're venerating?

[Latrinsorm]

Tomorrow evening then for the call? Will have to be offsite but should not be an issue to set up. Just let me know your best time and I'll send you a PM tomorrow with the details. I'm not going to let you get away from this one without you trying to pass off your wikipedia-fu level of knowledge to some actual experts. You seem like a guy who likes to consider himself intelligent. These forums are hardly the place for that. Let's bring it into the real world for some real conversation if you feel you're that much of an expert.Okay Steve you got me. Just spent 13 seconds calling the University of Chicago after hours. Great joke, I guess?

[Tgo01]

Secondly- you say this has nothing to do with racism. So why have white supremecy, neo-nazi groups fixated so strongly on them?

Nazi's like the color blue! Everything blue is racist!

[Latrinsorm]

You have to wonder to yourself.. "gee self.. I'm siding with the 3 biggest idiots on this forum: Backlash, time4fun and Ashliana.. maybe I'm just wrong in this case"It's not surprising that's the "who is siding with whom" in this situation that makes you wonder.
I read them, problem is no one unless I misread something, is trying to defend racism to any degree.If someone says "yeah the Nazis are bad but", that's defending them to some degree. That's why people across the political spectrum have been so outraged by statements like Terry's and President Trump's that didn't offer unequivocal condemnation of Nazis. When Marco Rubio is siding with Bernie Sanders against you, you really ought to re-evaluate what you're saying.
Okay but where do you draw the line? What about people calling for the removal of statues depicting George Washington and Thomas Jefferson?Nobody who waged war against the United States gets a statue. It worked just fine for Benedict Arnold, it will work just as well for Robert E. Lee and his ilk. Also covers Hitler! It's so easy!

[Fortybox]

No, I understood them fine.

You called one group of people you disagree with, "assholes".. then whined about why we can't get along.

You forgot that he mentioned equality too.

[Back]

You have to wonder to yourself.. "gee self.. I'm siding with the 3 biggest idiots on this forum: Backlash, time4fun and Ashliana.. maybe I'm just wrong in this case"

And to put the cherry on top, you quote one of them?

Good job pk...

More like aligning against white supremacist racist nazis.

[Fortybox]

Or their memorials in D.C.

Or the Democratic Party itself. The party has deep roots in racism.

[Fortybox]

Statues of war figures are about veneration- not recollection. And these statues were, by and large, erected specifically for the purpose of veneration. It would be inaccurate to treat treat them as somehow neutral representations of the Confederacy. (If such a thing can be said to exist) They definitely were not erected as warnings against it.

Secondly- you say this has nothing to do with racism. So why have white supremecy, neo-nazi groups fixated so strongly on them?

What is it exactly about these monuments they're venerating?

Why are you here? I thought these boards were traumatic for you?

[Androidpk]

It's not surprising that's the "who is siding with whom" in this situation that makes you wonder.If someone says "yeah the Nazis are bad but", that's defending them to some degree. That's why people across the political spectrum have been so outraged by statements like Terry's and President Trump's that didn't offer unequivocal condemnation of Nazis. When Marco Rubio is siding with Bernie Sanders against you, you really ought to re-evaluate what you're saying.Nobody who waged war against the United States gets a statue. It worked just fine for Benedict Arnold, it will work just as well for Robert E. Lee and his ilk. Also covers Hitler! It's so easy!

Okay. But what about non-violent offenders against the US? What about civil rights heroes? All art is subject to offense, should we ban all art? That may seem like stretching to some but slippery slope and all that.

[BriarFox]

Or the Democratic Party itself. The party has deep roots in racism.

Yes, during the Civil War, the Democrats were the party of slavery. However, the Democratic party of the 1860s is not the Democratic party of the 2010s, and it's bad history and worse disingenuity to make the connection you're trying to make.

[Androidpk]

More like aligning against white supremacist racist nazis.

Except there is a difference that PB is failing to mention and that I'm aligning against white supremist racist nazis AND the violent left wing groups such as Antifa.

[Latrinsorm]

Okay. But what about non-violent offenders against the US? What about civil rights heroes? All art is subject to offense, should we ban all art? That may seem like stretching to some but slippery slope and all that.How is it a slippery slope? Either they waged war on the United States or they didn't. Boom, hard and fast, done.

[Androidpk]

How is it a slippery slope? Either they waged war on the United States or they didn't. Boom, hard and fast, done.

How about Martin Luther King/jr?

[Androidpk]

I don't consider it erasing history. I call it learning from history. Books aren't being erased. Put the statues in museums.

I'm with Back on this one. It isn't erasing history because we'd still have the books. I mean, who's ever heard of banning offensive books? Pffffft

[time4fun]

Okay. But what about non-violent offenders against the US? What about civil rights heroes? All art is subject to offense, should we ban all art? That may seem like stretching to some but slippery slope and all that.

The second you start playing "slippery slope" with a white nationalist, neo-nazi hate march, you've already fallen right down that slope.

There's no grey area here. These are horrendous people, and one of them tried to kill dozens of people during that march. You also had neo-nazis who were all standing across from a Jewish Synagogue holding guns and screaming "Sieg Heil" at them over and over again. They came marching with fire and guns chanting "Jews will not replace us", and you're sitting here trying to talk about it as though it's really just the right-wing equivalent of people who showed up to march against hate.

And you know how you can tell how incredibly wrong you are?

You're currently making the same arguments as Neveragain- one of PC's card-carrying white supremecists. That alone should be a serious reality check for you.

[Parkbandit]

I don't consider it erasing history. I call it learning from history. Books aren't being erased. Put the statues in museums.

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/confederate-statue-4.jpg

So THAT is what these fine, upstanding citizens are doing.... moving these statues to museums!

I can't wait to go!

[Fortybox]

Yes, during the Civil War, the Democrats were the party of slavery. However, the Democratic party of the 1860s is not the Democratic party of the 2010s, and it's bad history and worse disingenuity to make the connection you're trying to make.

America of the 1860s is not the America of the 2010s. So what's your point? Maybe I am traumatized by the past actions of the Democratic Party. Does that mean I get to topple donkey statues?

The destruction of property in this way is flat out wrong.

But then I'm talking to someone who wants equality but then calls the other side asshole.

[Parkbandit]

Except there is a difference that PB is failing to mention and that I'm aligning against white supremist racist nazis AND the violent left wing groups such as Antifa.

Who is aligning themselves for white supremacist racist Nazis?

Not for Free speech.. specifically FOR white supremacist racist Nazis?

[Fortybox]

The second you start playing "slippery slope" with a white nationalist, neo-nazi hate march, you've already fallen right down that slope.

There's no grey area here. These are horrendous people, and one of them tried to kill dozens of people during that march. You also had neo-nazis who were all standing across from a Jewish Synagogue holding guns and screaming "Sieg Heil" at them over and over again. They came marching with fire and guns chanting "Jews will not replace us", and you're sitting here trying to talk about it as though it's really just the right-wing equivalent of people who showed up to march against hate.

And you know how you can tell how incredibly wrong you are?

You're currently making the same arguments as Neveragain- one of PC's card-carrying white supremecists. That alone should be a serious reality check for you.

I love how the left characterizes neo-Nazi as on the right. Those fools have more in common with the progressive movement...they are part of the progressive movement. Same insane logic, that being a desire for a fundamental transformation of America.

Can't wait for the progressive movement to start destroying Christian statues.

[BriarFox]

America of the 1860s is not the America of the 2010s. So what's your point? Maybe I am traumatized by the past actions of the Democratic Party. Does that mean I get to topple donkey statues?

The destruction of property in this way is flat out wrong.

But then I'm talking to someone who wants equality but then calls the other side asshole.

If you're a racist, you're an asshole, and I'm going to unapologetically wave that flag.

[Androidpk]

The second you start playing "slippery slope" with a white nationalist, neo-nazi hate march, you've already fallen right down that slope.

There's no grey area here. These are horrendous people, and one of them tried to kill dozens of people during that march. You also had neo-nazis who were all standing across from a Jewish Synagogue holding guns and screaming "Sieg Heil" at them over and over again. They came marching with fire and guns chanting "Jews will not replace us", and you're sitting here trying to talk about it as though it's really just the right-wing equivalent of people who showed up to march against hate.

And you know how you can tell how incredibly wrong you are?

You're currently making the same arguments as Neveragain- one of PC's card-carrying white supremecists. That alone should be a serious reality check for you.

I disagree. There is ALWAYS a gray area.

[Fortybox]

If you're a racist, you're an asshole, and I'm going to unapologetically wave that flag.

And so are the fools who destroyed property. What's your point?

[Androidpk]

And you know how you can tell how incredibly wrong you are?

You're currently making the same arguments as Neveragain- one of PC's card-carrying white supremecists. That alone should be a serious reality check for you.



You have to wonder to yourself.. "gee self.. I'm siding with the 3 biggest idiots on this forum: Backlash, time4fun and Ashliana.. maybe I'm just wrong in this case"

And to put the cherry on top, you quote one of them?

Good job pk...


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[BriarFox]

And so are the fools who destroyed property. What's your point?

You're criticizing my arguments as implicitly hypocritical because I called people assholes; I'm replying that that argument doesn't work.

[Latrinsorm]

How about Martin Luther King/jr?Didn't wage war on the United States, he can have a statue. And he already does! The system works.

[Androidpk]

Didn't wage war on the United States, he can have a statue. And he already does! The system works.

He was a non-violent offender against the state, just like Gandhi and others.

[Latrinsorm]

He was a non-violent offender against the state, just like Gandhi and others.He was black too, and a Baptist, and a Ph.D. He was lots of things; one thing he was not was someone who waged war on the United States.

So he can have a statue!

Done and done.

[Fortybox]

You're criticizing my arguments as implicitly hypocritical because I called people assholes; I'm replying that that argument doesn't work.

I'm not the only one calling out your hypocrisy.

[Tgo01]

He was black too, and a Baptist, and a Ph.D. He was lots of things; one thing he was not was someone who waged war on the United States.

So he can have a statue!

Done and done.

I'm only half paying attention but what are you blathering on about now? People who wage war on the US can't have a statue? Very few people were responsible for "waging war" against the Union, most other people who fought for the Confederacy had no choice, the citizens in the south certainly had little to no choice.

Or do we just say they're all racist fucks so no statue!

What about in the UK, should they have statues of any US citizens or honor the US in any way?

What about India, should they have any statues honoring UK citizens in any way?

Go back far enough and someone fucked over another person's family in some way, so let's just do away with all statues and monuments, just to be on the safe side. This is the madness Democrats want to engage in. This is the madness Latrinsorm wants to engage in.

THIS.

IS.

[Fortybox]

I'm only half paying attention but what are you blathering on about now? People who wage war on the US can't have a statue? Very few people were responsible for "waging war" against the Union, most other people who fought for the Confederacy had no choice, the citizens in the south certainly had little to no choice.

Or do we just say they're all racist fucks so no statue!

What about in the UK, should they have statues of any US citizens or honor the US in any way?

What about India, should they have any statues honoring UK citizens in any way?

Go back far enough and someone fucked over another person's family in some way, so let's just do away with all statues and monuments, just to be on the safe side. This is the madness Democrats want to engage in. This is the madness Latrinsorm wants to engage in.

THIS.

IS.

SPARTAAAAAAAAAA!

[BriarFox]

I'm not the only one calling out your hypocrisy.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/010/692/19789999.jpg

[Back]

There should be a statue to Heather Heyer who was murdered for advocating love and peace.

[drauz]

There should be a statue to Heather Heyer who was murdered for advocating love and peace.

No, there shouldn't. I don't think that is statue worthy. It's certainly a tragedy, but it wasn't something heroic or world changing.

I actually like Tgo's idea. Take down all the statues and put them in museums. I'm not the type that enjoys them anyways (statues not museums).

[Fortybox]

There should be a statue to Heather Heyer who was murdered for advocating love and peace.

Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal (D) should get a statue too. The left just loves peace so much that they want Trump assassinated. And by assassinated I mean it in an equality-asshole BriarFox-like way.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2017/08/17/2017.08.17%20-%20Maria%201_0.JPG

[Tgo01]

Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal (D) should get a statue too. The left just loves peace so much that they want Trump assassinated. And by assassinated I mean it in an equality-asshole BriarFox-like way.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2017/08/17/2017.08.17%20-%20Maria%201_0.JPG

You calling out left wing hate speech? Racist.

[BriarFox]

Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal (D) should get a statue too. The left just loves peace so much that they want Trump assassinated. And by assassinated I mean it in an equality-asshole BriarFox-like way.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2017/08/17/2017.08.17%20-%20Maria%201_0.JPG

@Whirlin, please change my title to "Equality Asshole." Kthx.

[Fortybox]

You calling out left wing hate speech? Racist.

Yeah I'm sure Time4fun will say this is peace speech.

[Fortybox]

@Whirlin, please change my title to "Equality Asshole." Kthx.

Lulz

[Gelston]

Yall went full retard. Oh wait, Time4idiocy posted.

[Methais]

I never said Antifa and Baseball players were exactly the same, I said they were taking queues from them, so why do you disagree?

Baseball was inspired by Cricket, which has been around since 1725 or some shit, so it's really England that's responsible for Antifa and ISIS.


You have to wonder to yourself.. "gee self.. I'm siding with the 3 biggest idiots on this forum: Backlash, time4fun and Ashliana.. maybe I'm just wrong in this case"

And to put the cherry on top, you quote one of them?

Good job pk...

You should at least give him accuracy points for bolding it.

[Parkbandit]

You should at least give him accuracy points for bolding it.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/5be4fffbd194e3dc0ee7194768dae457/tumblr_mm10bduqik1r8wi49o1_400.gif

[Methais]

Damn. Our communist plot has been discovered!

Did you just admit to being a hipster?

[Methais]

Statues of war figures are about veneration- not recollection. And these statues were, by and large, erected specifically for the purpose of veneration. It would be inaccurate to treat treat them as somehow neutral representations of the Confederacy. (If such a thing can be said to exist) They definitely were not erected as warnings against it.

Secondly- you say this has nothing to do with racism. So why have white supremecy, neo-nazi groups fixated so strongly on them?

What is it exactly about these monuments they're venerating?

Why does Seattle have a Lenin statue? You're probably a fan of Lenin so figured you might know.

[Kobold]

Why does Seattle have a Lenin statue? You're probably a fan of Lenin so figured you might know.

Called Google, lazy fat Italic.

The sculpture was rescued from a scrap yard in Slovakia by an Issaquah, Wash., man and erected in the neighborhood in 1995 as a symbol of art outlasting politics

[Methais]

Chelsea Clinton Tries Again, Compares Confederate Monuments to Satan: Backfire in 3...2...1... (http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/08/950848-chelsea-clinton-tries-compares-confederate-monuments-satan-backfire-3-2-1/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_term=ijamerica&utm_campaign=ods&utm_content=Culture)

:lol:

I bet time4fun thinks Chelsea is a brilliant individual and would be a great President one day.

[Kobold]

Chelsea Clinton Tries Again, Compares Confederate Monuments to Satan: Backfire in 3...2...1... (http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/08/950848-chelsea-clinton-tries-compares-confederate-monuments-satan-backfire-3-2-1/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_term=ijamerica&utm_campaign=ods&utm_content=Culture)

:lol:

I bet time4fun thinks Chelsea is a brilliant individual and would be a great President one day.

https://i.imgflip.com/1ubmr6.jpg

[Methais]

Except there is a difference that PB is failing to mention and that I'm aligning against white supremist racist nazis AND the violent left wing groups such as Antifa.

The first part of your post was fair and pure. The last part was definitely pure racism.

[Tgo01]

Chelsea Clinton Tries Again, Compares Confederate Monuments to Satan: Backfire in 3...2...1... (http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/08/950848-chelsea-clinton-tries-compares-confederate-monuments-satan-backfire-3-2-1/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_term=ijamerica&utm_campaign=ods&utm_content=Culture)

What an idiot.

[Kobold]

The first part of your post was fair and pure. The last part was definitely pure racism.

https://i.imgflip.com/1ubmr6.jpg

[Methais]

There should be a statue to Heather Heyer who was murdered for advocating love and peace.

The fact that you didn't advocate the same for Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown proves how racist you along with everyone else who didn't advocate for them to get a statue are.

Brb calling the race police.

[Kobold]

The fact that you didn't advocate the same for Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown proves how racist you along with everyone else who didn't advocate for them to get a statue are.

Brb calling the race police.

https://i.imgflip.com/1ubmr6.jpg

[Methais]

Called Google, lazy fat Italic.

The sculpture was rescued from a scrap yard in Slovakia by an Issaquah, Wash., man and erected in the neighborhood in 1995 as a symbol of art outlasting politics

The fact that you mention me being Italian in every post as if it's an insult is cute. If you want to insult me, call me a feminist or Canadian or something.

[Kobold]

The fact that you mention me being Italian in every post as if it's an insult is cute. If you want to insult me, call me a feminist or Canadian or something.

https://i.imgflip.com/1ubmr6.jpg

[Methais]

Brb fapping to either Susan Sarandon or Leslie Ann Warren.

[Methais]

Ok I'm back.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/89/893471a0ee636b3631b11f95ba4d542b25d9dbbede69c7b9dc 3cf607b6b183b1.jpg

[Wrathbringer]

The fact that you mention me being Italian in every post as if it's an insult is cute. If you want to insult me, call me a feminist or Canadian or something.

President Donald Trump meets Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
8805

[Methais]

President Donald Trump meets Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
8805

https://i.redd.it/bux34grhihhy.jpg

[Methais]

https://scontent.fbtr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20799938_1891660077751754_235797815012722500_n.jpg ?oh=cbe2aa089bc08a8df4969c59a085e473&oe=5A20A5CF

I mean he's not wrong.

[Kobold]

https://scontent.fbtr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20799938_1891660077751754_235797815012722500_n.jpg ?oh=cbe2aa089bc08a8df4969c59a085e473&oe=5A20A5CF

I mean he's not wrong.

Strangely, I agree with you here you greasy haired Salami sucker.