View Full Version : WaPo: Trump Currently Exploring Pardoning Powers to Undercut Russian Investigation
time4fun
07-20-2017, 09:34 PM
Washington Post tonight reporting (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-lawyers-seek-to-undercut-muellers-russia-investigation/2017/07/20/232ebf2c-6d71-11e7-b9e2-2056e768a7e5_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar&tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.d99e05d4ad2b) that Trump is asking his lawyers to explore using Presidential Pardoning powers to excuse his family, aids, and himself:
Some of President Trump’s lawyers are exploring ways to limit or undercut special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s Russia investigation, building a case against what they allege are his conflicts of interest and discussing the president’s authority to grant pardons, according to people familiar with the effort.
Trump has asked his advisers about his power to pardon aides, family members and even himself in connection with the probe, according to one of those people. A second person said Trump’s lawyers have been discussing the president’s pardoning powers among themselves.
With the Russia investigation continuing to widen, Trump’s lawyers are working to corral the probe and question the propriety of the special counsel’s work. They are actively compiling a list of Mueller’s alleged potential conflicts of interest, which they say could serve as a way to stymie his work, according to several of Trump’s legal advisers.
A conflict of interest is one of the possible grounds that can be cited by an attorney general to remove a special counsel from office under Justice Department regulations that set rules for the job.
Trump has been fuming about the probe in recent weeks as he has been informed about the legal questions that he and his family could face. His primary frustration centers on why allegations that his campaign coordinated with Russia should spread into scrutinizing many years of Trump dealmaking. He has told aides he was especially disturbed after learning Mueller would be able to access several years of his tax returns.
Yeah, he's absolutely not guilty of anything.
cwolff
07-20-2017, 09:37 PM
Should I just get this started T4F?
"So...he's the president, that's within his powers."
"It doesn't mean he's guilty of anything. Show me what crimes he's pardoning himself for. Ya, Didn't think so"
"Bill Clinton pardoned that Rich guy and you libtards didn't cry foul. Hypocrites"
tyrant-201
07-20-2017, 09:39 PM
Should I just get this started T4F?
"So...he's the president, that's within his powers."
"It doesn't mean he's guilty of anything. Show me what crimes he's pardoning himself for. Ya, Didn't think so"
"Bill Clinton pardoned that Rich guy and you libtards didn't cry foul. Hypocrites"
Obama pardoned the most people in presidential history!!!!
cwolff
07-20-2017, 09:40 PM
Obama pardoned the most people in presidential history!!!!
Ahh, thank you tyrant. I missed that one.
time4fun
07-20-2017, 09:44 PM
Should I just get this started T4F?
"So...he's the president, that's within his powers."
"It doesn't mean he's guilty of anything. Show me what crimes he's pardoning himself for. Ya, Didn't think so"
"Bill Clinton pardoned that Rich guy and you libtards didn't cry foul. Hypocrites"
Ha, I love how we were all immediately thinking of the insane things Tgo, Neveragain, and PB would start saying to defend this.
They know Trump's guilty of things here. They've just decided they don't care.
cwolff
07-20-2017, 09:49 PM
Ha, I love how we were all immediately thinking of the insane things Tgo, Neveragain, and PB would start saying to defend this.
They know Trump's guilty of things here. They've just decided they don't care.
We should just macro the responses at this point. Post an anti trump story then ctrl- f1, f2, f3 to add the rebuttals.
Spokesperson for trumps legal team resigned. Hmmm...wonder what that's about.
We have clear example of trump learning about his powers then using/abusing them. No conflict of interest for President, firing comey etc... This isn't just spitballing.
cwolff
07-20-2017, 09:56 PM
NYT (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/us/politics/donald-trump-robert-mueller-russia-investigation.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0&referer=https://t.co/XMOy6JRufm) is reporting this now. It's fixing to be high noon in D.C.
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, MAGGIE HABERMAN and MATT APUZZO
July 20, 2017
WASHINGTON — President Trump’s lawyers and aides are scouring the professional and political backgrounds of investigators hired by the special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, looking for conflicts of interest they could use to discredit the investigation — or even build a case to fire Mr. Mueller or get some members of his team recused, according to three people with knowledge of the research effort.
The search for potential conflicts is wide-ranging. It includes scrutinizing donations to Democratic candidates, investigators’ past clients and Mr. Mueller’s relationship with James B. Comey, whose firing as F.B.I. director is part of the special counsel’s investigation.
The effort to investigate the investigators is another sign of a looming showdown between Mr. Trump and Mr. Mueller, who has assembled a team of high-powered prosecutors and agents to examine whether any of Mr. Trump’s advisers aided Russia’s campaign to disrupt last year’s presidential election.
Add "Trump won. Get over it." and "You're an idiot." and other personal attacks without reasoned rebuttals.
Tgo01
07-20-2017, 10:00 PM
"So...he's the president, that's within his powers."
It is.
"It doesn't mean he's guilty of anything. Show me what crimes he's pardoning himself for. Ya, Didn't think so"
Yeah. No. If you're pardoning someone then you are recognizing a crime they may have committed.
"Bill Clinton pardoned that Rich guy and you libtards didn't cry foul. Hypocrites"
Well I mean...it's true. Bill Clinton also pardoned his own brother on his last day in office and you libtards still hail him as the best president ever. But why be consistent, right?
I'll also note that you people are once again losing your shit over this story which is, and I quote, from anonymous "people familiar with the effort."
Calm down for fuck's sake.
I don't think issuing pardons would look good for Trump but honestly at this point since you dipshits have railed this fake Russia narrative for this so long based on "anonymous sources" that it can't get much worse for Trump.
So congrats, libtards! If Trump does start issuing pardons left and right it would actually be a juicy story but most of America, and the world, are sick of this shit already and it won't even matter one bit and most Americans will probably have long forgotten about it come 2020, especially if you morons are still pushing this bullshit Russia story then.
cwolff
07-20-2017, 10:06 PM
And just for a little perspective...
WASHINGTON — The Treasury Department on Thursday fined Exxon Mobil $2 million for violating sanctions that the United States imposed on Russia in 2014 while Rex W. Tillerson, now the secretary of state, was the oil company’s chief executive.
The penalty was relatively small for the Treasury and a blip on Exxon’s mammoth balance sheet, but it came as controversy over Russia policy has engulfed Washington. The Trump administration is facing questions about Russia’s intervention in the 2016 election, and Congress has considered stiffening sanctions out of concern that President Trump will try to ease those already in place.
The move also underscores concerns over Mr. Tillerson’s deep business connections in Russia
...this isn't even being discussed today.
time4fun
07-20-2017, 10:08 PM
It is.
Yeah. No. If you're pardoning someone then you are recognizing a crime they may have committed.
Well I mean...it's true. Bill Clinton also pardoned his own brother on his last day in office and you libtards still hail him as the best president ever. But why be consistent, right?
I'll also note that you people are once again losing your shit over this story which is, and I quote, from anonymous "people familiar with the effort."
Calm down for fuck's sake.
I don't think issuing pardons would look good for Trump but honestly at this point since you dipshits have railed this fake Russia narrative for this so long based on "anonymous sources" that it can't get much worse for Trump.
So congrats, libtards! If Trump does start issuing pardons left and right it would actually be a juicy story but most of America, and the world, are sick of this shit already and it won't even matter one bit and most Americans will probably have long forgotten about it come 2020, especially if you morons are still pushing this bullshit Russia story then.
Dear god you're a fool.
Tgo01
07-20-2017, 10:09 PM
Add "Trump won. Get over it." and "You're an idiot." and other personal attacks without reasoned rebuttals.
Dear god you're a fool.
Oh the irony.
Fortybox
07-20-2017, 10:28 PM
I WANT A BROADSWORD!!!11one
cwolff
07-20-2017, 10:31 PM
And Hannity is attacking Republicans for not pushing trumps agenda but he just shifted gears to attack Mueller. Got Gingrich (who seems drunk) on there talking shit about Mueller.
SHAFT
07-20-2017, 10:37 PM
https://youtu.be/JSUIQgEVDM4
time4fun
07-20-2017, 10:37 PM
And Hannity is attacking Republicans for not pushing trumps agenda but he just shifted gears to attack Mueller. Got Gingrich (who seems drunk) on there talking shit about Mueller.
Remember when Republicans used to be the patriotic ones?
cwolff
07-20-2017, 10:39 PM
Remember when Republicans used to be the patriotic ones?
+1
Tgo01
07-20-2017, 10:43 PM
Remember when Republicans used to be the patriotic ones?
Implying Democrats are the patriotic ones now?
insert 10 posts of HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA here.
cwolff
07-20-2017, 10:48 PM
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Fortybox
07-20-2017, 10:51 PM
Time4Fun's new tranny wig:
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drauz
07-20-2017, 10:52 PM
Remember when Republicans used to be the patriotic ones?
Democrats still aren't more patriotic.
Fortybox
07-20-2017, 11:00 PM
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time4fun
07-20-2017, 11:01 PM
Democrats still aren't more patriotic.
Really? They're not protecting someone who is being chummy with a major foreign power that is attacking our elections, who is trying to obstruct an active investigation into him and his campaign/family, and who is talking about having an FBI Director who reports right to him.
Fortybox
07-20-2017, 11:03 PM
Really? They're not protecting someone who is being chummy with a major foreign power that is attacking our elections, who is trying to obstruct an active investigation into him and his campaign/family, and who is talking about having an FBI Director who reports right to him.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v3aeaVnWFk73W/giphy.gif
Tgo01
07-20-2017, 11:04 PM
Really? They're not protecting someone who is being chummy with a major foreign power that is attacking our elections, who is trying to obstruct an active investigation into him and his campaign/family, and who is talking about having an FBI Director who reports right to him.
insert 20 posts of HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH here
Aren't Democrats busy attacking our military, protecting illegal aliens committing crimes, and wanting more Islamic terrorists in our country?
Fortybox
07-20-2017, 11:07 PM
insert 20 posts of HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH here
Aren't Democrats busy attacking our military, protecting illegal aliens committing crimes, and wanting more Islamic terrorists in our country?
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Archigeek
07-20-2017, 11:09 PM
Time4Fun's new tranny wig:
https://media0.giphy.com/media/i9qzeufDBKjNm/giphy.gif
Speaking of republicans and transgender women:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/342753-transgender-woman-posts-viral-photo-with-texas-gov-in-midst-of
~Rocktar~
07-20-2017, 11:11 PM
Really? They're not protecting someone who is being chummy with a major foreign power that is attacking our elections, who is trying to obstruct an active investigation into him and his campaign/family, and who is talking about having an FBI Director who reports right to him.
So when is ICE picking you up for willfully sheltering an illegal?
Fortybox
07-20-2017, 11:11 PM
Speaking of republicans and transgender women:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/342753-transgender-woman-posts-viral-photo-with-texas-gov-in-midst-of
Please...you can so tell that's a dude.
cwolff
07-20-2017, 11:15 PM
Pardon trumps Indictment, Impeachment trumps Pardon. Interesting tidbit.
Also, apparently accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt and one is no longer protected by the 5th amendment. Anyone who's pardoned can be compelled to testify.
Fortybox
07-20-2017, 11:16 PM
Pardon trump Indictment, Impeachment trumps Pardon. Interesting tidbit.
Also, apparently accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt and one is no longer protected by the 5th amendment. Anyone who's pardoned can be compelled to testify.
https://media4.giphy.com/media/4aRVDhN6Bwcak/giphy.gif
time4fun
07-20-2017, 11:18 PM
So when is ICE picking you up for willfully sheltering an illegal?
When you get an education.
Tgo01
07-20-2017, 11:19 PM
When you get an education.
I thought you were so patriotic now? Why are you harboring a fugitive?
time4fun
07-20-2017, 11:25 PM
Pardon trumps Indictment, Impeachment trumps Pardon. Interesting tidbit.
Also, apparently accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt and one is no longer protected by the 5th amendment. Anyone who's pardoned can be compelled to testify.
Do you have a citation for the statement about the 5th?
There are ways to get them to testify to a Congressional committee, but I'm not aware of anything that would compel them to give testimony to Mueller.
cwolff
07-20-2017, 11:25 PM
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Fortybox
07-20-2017, 11:29 PM
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Eric Holder isn't going to be the next president. He needs to stop and go away.
cwolff
07-20-2017, 11:32 PM
Do you have a citation for the statement about the 5th?
There are ways to get them to testify to a Congressional committee, but I'm not aware of anything that would compel them to give testimony to Mueller.
So far this is all I have in print (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/what-happens-if-trump-exercise-pardon-power_us_596f75dbe4b0000eb197ba66).
A Pardon’s Effect on the Congressional Investigations
Congressional investigations serve legislative policy and oversight goals rather than criminal enforcement goals, so a pardon does not end an Article I inquiry. But there could be other counterintuitive effects of a pardon on the ongoing congressional investigations into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election and whether there was any coordination with the Trump campaign. For example, it could potentially remove federal legal jeopardy in a manner that may defeat an assertion of the Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. Were Trump to pardon his former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, tomorrow, Congress might be able to get a court order requiring Flynn to testify before the committees because he no longer faces federal criminal prosecution. That court order or resulting congressional contempt finding, in turn, could theoretically be enforced by coercive contempt (i.e., jailing until such time as the witness provides ordered testimony). Because coercion serves process integrity goals rather than criminal goals, that enforcement power probably could not be defeated by another presidential pardon.
A Pardon’s Effect on the Special Counsel Investigation
As for the special counsel, a prospective pardon would have a narrowing effect on his authority, as it would end any criminal jeopardy arising from his investigation. However, provided there are still active leads and targets, the special counsel mandate would continue. It would raise interesting legal questions. For example, a pardoned individual could still potentially serve as an unindicted coconspirator, which triggers benefits to a prosecution such as a hearsay exception for co-conspirator statements.
Neveragain
07-20-2017, 11:32 PM
Ha, I love how we were all immediately thinking of the insane things Tgo, Neveragain, and PB would start saying to defend this.
They know Trump's guilty of things here. They've just decided they don't care.
I have said multiple times that if there has been any laws broken that people should go down. I have also said multiple times that I neither voted for or supported Trump. Unlike you I understand that people are innocent until proven guilty and I still feel safer not having Hillary Clinton as our president.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od4Zby8HLnA
cwolff
07-20-2017, 11:34 PM
I have said multiple times that if there has been any laws broken that people should go down. I have also said multiple times that I neither voted for or supported Trump. Unlike you I understand that people are innocent until proven guilty and I still feel safer not having Hillary Clinton as our president.
Don't feel too safe. God only knows what triggers will get pulled if Mueller starts backing trump into a corner.
time4fun
07-20-2017, 11:37 PM
So far this is all I have in print.
Yeah, that works for Congressional Testimony, but it would effectively shut down Mueller's investigation. That's the point. Congress can have all of the inquiries it wants, but it doesn't have the ability to enforce the law. The Executive Branch has to be the one to act.
Bottom line here- if Congress is content to sit back and do nothing in a situation where Trump abuses Presidential Pardon powers to shut down Mueller's investigation, they're not going to start compelling people to give testimony in front of Congressional committees.
drauz
07-20-2017, 11:40 PM
Do you have a citation for the statement about the 5th?
There are ways to get them to testify to a Congressional committee, but I'm not aware of anything that would compel them to give testimony to Mueller.
They can't.
Androidpk
07-20-2017, 11:41 PM
Remember when Republicans used to be the patriotic ones?
More insults and gaslighting.. how boring.
time4fun
07-20-2017, 11:42 PM
Don't feel too safe. God only knows what triggers will get pulled if Mueller starts backing trump into a corner.
If Trump is as guilty as he is acting, he will have VERY little to lose by taking extreme measures to shut Mueller's investigation down. He's already demonstrated that he's willing to take extreme action, and Congressional Republicans have showns that they have no interest in performing their duties to put real checks on Executive power.
Fortybox
07-20-2017, 11:43 PM
If Trump is as guilty as he is acting, he will have VERY little to lose by taking extreme measures to shut Mueller's investigation down. He's already demonstrated that he's willing to take extreme action, and Congressional Republicans have showns that they have no interest in performing their duties to put real checks on Executive power.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/hg9md9M2nDtJK/giphy.gif
cwolff
07-20-2017, 11:44 PM
Yeah, that works for Congressional Testimony, but it would effectively shut down Mueller's investigation. That's the point. Congress can have all of the inquiries it wants, but it doesn't have the ability to enforce the law. The Executive Branch has to be the one to act.
Bottom line here- if Congress is content to sit back and do nothing in a situation where Trump abuses Presidential Pardon powers to shut down Mueller's investigation, they're not going to start compelling people to give testimony in front of Congressional committees.
Not necessarily. A former CIA and DIA lawyer was on. He says it would shut down criminal investigations but Mueller is doing a counter intelligence investigation also. That part of the investigation could/would still continue because of the National Security implications.
cwolff
07-20-2017, 11:45 PM
If Trump is as guilty as he is acting, he will have VERY little to lose by taking extreme measures to shut Mueller's investigation down. He's already demonstrated that he's willing to take extreme action, and Congressional Republicans have showns that they have no interest in performing their duties to put real checks on Executive power.
Ya, the tinfoil hat, 9/11 truther guys must be absolutely giddy with the impending false flag operation.
time4fun
07-20-2017, 11:45 PM
I have said multiple times that if there has been any laws broken that people should go down. I have also said multiple times that I neither voted for or supported Trump. Unlike you I understand that people are innocent until proven guilty and I still feel safer not having Hillary Clinton as our president.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od4Zby8HLnA
No, you're a short-sighted fool who doesn't understand the security risks Trump and his campaign pose to our country right now. Lying about contacts with Russians makes them vulnerable to blackmail.
And if they are as guilty as they're acting, they are VERY vulnerable to blackmail.
A sitting President who is busy trying to deceive the country into believing Russia never meddled in our elections is dangerous enough- one who is also vulnerable to blackmail by the Russian government is a massive security risk on a scale we've never seen.
This is no longer a situation about a normal US citizen dealing with a normal criminal investigation. There are very real concerns here about the position Trump has put this entire country in just by the actions that have already come to light. We are WAY past the point of needing to patiently sit around and check to see if the US President is a foreign asset of our primary geopolitical enemy in the world.
~Rocktar~
07-20-2017, 11:46 PM
When you get an education.
I have an education and you are still a criminal by harboring a criminal.
Neveragain
07-20-2017, 11:47 PM
Don't feel too safe. God only knows what triggers will get pulled if Mueller starts backing trump into a corner.
Nobody said this was going to be pretty.
Fortybox
07-20-2017, 11:50 PM
Oh I love this so much.
MOAR plz!!!
~Rocktar~
07-20-2017, 11:50 PM
Don't feel too safe. God only knows what triggers will get pulled if Mueller starts backing trump into a corner.
He is still safer than if he had crossed Hillary.
Neveragain
07-20-2017, 11:51 PM
No, you're a short-sighted fool who doesn't understand the security risks Trump and his campaign pose to our country right now. Lying about contacts with Russians makes them vulnerable to blackmail.
And if they are as guilty as they're acting, they are VERY vulnerable to blackmail.
A sitting President who is busy trying to deceive the country into believing Russia never meddled in our elections is dangerous enough- one who is also vulnerable to blackmail by the Russian government is a massive security risk on a scale we've never seen.
This is no longer a situation about a normal US citizen dealing with a normal criminal investigation. There are very real concerns here about the position Trump has put this entire country in just by the actions that have already come to light. We are WAY past the point of needing to patiently sit around and check to see if the US President is a foreign asset of our primary geopolitical enemy in the world.
You are in a cold dark place right now, I understand.
I suggest a real nice mellow indica for that and stay away from the sativas for a while.
Androidpk
07-20-2017, 11:51 PM
No, you're a short-sighted fool who doesn't understand the security risks Trump and his campaign pose to our country right now. Lying about contacts with Russians makes them vulnerable to blackmail.
And if they are as guilty as they're acting, they are VERY vulnerable to blackmail.
A sitting President who is busy trying to deceive the country into believing Russia never meddled in our elections is dangerous enough- one who is also vulnerable to blackmail by the Russian government is a massive security risk on a scale we've never seen.
This is no longer a situation about a normal US citizen dealing with a normal criminal investigation. There are very real concerns here about the position Trump has put this entire country in just by the actions that have already come to light. We are WAY past the point of needing to patiently sit around and check to see if the US President is a foreign asset of our primary geopolitical enemy in the world.
...
Neveragain
07-20-2017, 11:55 PM
https://media3.giphy.com/media/hg9md9M2nDtJK/giphy.gif
LOL
Fortybox
07-20-2017, 11:58 PM
LOL
Pretty much sums up the liberals argument. CONSPIRACY!
Tgo01
07-20-2017, 11:58 PM
Bottom line here- if Congress is content to sit back and do nothing in a situation where Trump abuses Presidential Pardon powers
LOL!
time4fun (and presumably Democrats everywhere) are suddenly concerned with "Presidential pardon powers" abuses!
I couldn't even dream up a comedy such as this if I had a thousand years.
cwolff
07-21-2017, 12:00 AM
If Trump is as guilty as he is acting, he will have VERY little to lose by taking extreme measures to shut Mueller's investigation down. He's already demonstrated that he's willing to take extreme action, and Congressional Republicans have showns that they have no interest in performing their duties to put real checks on Executive power.
Ya that's the truth. Checks and Balances only work if there's political will to actually check and balance.
Tgo01
07-21-2017, 12:03 AM
Congressional Republicans have showns that they have no interest in performing their duties to put real checks on Executive power.
Now she's pretending to give a shit about Congress' checks and balances on the executive branch!
Please, stop! STOP! I'm going to hurt myself from laughing so fucking hard.
Fortybox
07-21-2017, 12:05 AM
Now she's pretending to give a shit about Congress' checks and balances on the executive branch!
Please, stop! STOP! I'm going to hurt myself from laughing so fucking hard.
HILLARY WON THE POPULAR VOTE. STFU TGOOOOOOOOOO
Tgo01
07-21-2017, 12:06 AM
HILLARY WON THE POPULAR VOTE. STFU TGOOOOOOOOOO
Maybe she'll tell us the one again about how we should divvy up senate seats by country wide popular votes. That one was a riot.
time4fun
07-21-2017, 12:08 AM
Ya that's the truth. Checks and Balances only work if there's political will to actually check and balance.
I love how the PC Conservative trolls are doing everything in their power to avoid having to actually talk about Trump mulling using Presidential pardon powers to shut down an investigation into him and his campaign and family.
Tgo01
07-21-2017, 12:11 AM
I love how the PC Conservative trolls are doing everything in their power to avoid having to actually talk about Trump mulling using Presidential pardon powers to shut down an investigation into him and his campaign and family.
I actually did discuss this and your response was, and I quote:
Dear god you're a fool.
But keep on herping and derping and gaslighting.
cwolff
07-21-2017, 12:12 AM
I love how the PC Conservative trolls are doing everything in their power to avoid having to actually talk about Trump mulling using Presidential pardon powers to shut down an investigation into him and his campaign and family.
Ya, you already won when they start attacking you. They're all about the defense mechanisms.
Fortybox
07-21-2017, 12:12 AM
I love how the PC Conservative trolls are doing everything in their power to avoid having to actually talk about Trump mulling using Presidential pardon powers to shut down an investigation into him and his campaign and family.
It must hurt to have been rejected so bad. The anger must be so overwhelming.
Tgo01
07-21-2017, 12:12 AM
Ya, you already won when they start attacking you. They're all about the defense mechanisms.
I actually did discuss this and your response was, and I quote:
Oh wait, you didn't respond to my post!
Fortybox
07-21-2017, 12:14 AM
Ya, you already won when they start attacking you. They're all about the defense mechanisms.
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Fortybox
07-21-2017, 12:21 AM
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Neveragain
07-21-2017, 12:29 AM
I love how the PC Conservative trolls are doing everything in their power to avoid having to actually talk about Trump mulling using Presidential pardon powers to shut down an investigation into him and his campaign and family.
There is 0 point in talking to you, the moment someone makes you look like an idiot you call them racist or some other stupid bullshit. Now please continue gaslighting for us and I'll do what I enjoy doing, making fun of Hillary Clinton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_bNPlXKzTQ
Fortybox
07-21-2017, 12:32 AM
There is 0 point in talking to you, the moment someone makes you look like an idiot you call them racist or some other stupid bullshit. Now please continue gaslighting for us and I'll do what I enjoy doing, making fun of Hillary Clinton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_bNPlXKzTQ
Don't forget that she ignores you on lnet or the message board!
Fortybox
07-21-2017, 12:34 AM
https://youtu.be/njczesGlXaQ
This is so bad. Just look at all the celebration from everyone that thought this would be a landslide victory. LOL
Tgo01
07-21-2017, 12:41 AM
https://youtu.be/njczesGlXaQ
This is so bad. Just look at all the celebration from everyone that thought this would be a landslide victory. LOL
No "I want someone to invent Pokemon..go to the polls"? FAIL!
Tgo01
07-21-2017, 12:43 AM
No "I want someone to invent Pokemon..go to the polls"? FAIL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN7WUUAb6Iw
Neveragain
07-21-2017, 12:44 AM
Don't forget that she ignores you on lnet or the message board!
I have no idea about lnet, I have maybe spoken 3 sentences on there in 2+ years. Most of the time I have it shut off because..well...mistakes and such. :whipit:
SHAFT
07-21-2017, 01:07 AM
Not to mention 990+ tweets...
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SHAFT
07-21-2017, 01:16 AM
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SHAFT
07-21-2017, 01:23 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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SHAFT
07-21-2017, 01:25 AM
On Macron of France:
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cwolff
07-21-2017, 10:25 AM
He's such a tard. They're talking about turning his transcripts into a version of Drunk History. LOL
Parkbandit
10-17-2017, 01:59 PM
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration
The "real" Russian story...
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