Bernie and Jane Sanders, under FBI investigation for bank fraud, hire lawyers

[Gelston]

I'll just leave this here...


Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and his wife, Jane Sanders have hired prominent defense attorneys amid an FBI investigation into a loan Jane Sanders obtained to expand Burlington College while she was its president, CBS News confirms.

Politico Magazine first reported the Sanders had hired lawyers to defend them in the probe. Sanders' top adviser Jeff Weaver told CBS News the couple has sought legal protection over federal agents' allegations from a January 2016 complaint accusing then-President of Burlington College, Ms. Sanders, of distorting donor levels in a 2010 loan application for $10 million from People's United Bank to purchase 33 acres of land for the institution.

According to Politico, prosecutors might also be looking into allegations that Sen. Sanders' office inappropriately urged the bank to approve the loan.

Burlington attorney and Sanders supporter Rich Cassidy has reportedly been hired to represent Sen. Sanders. And high-profile Washington defense attorney Larry Robbins, who counseled Libby "Scooter" Robbins, former Chief of Staff for the Vice President, is protecting Jane Sanders.

Ms. Sanders' push for the liberal arts college's costly land acquisition was cited in a press release by the college when it shut down in 2016.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-and-jane-sanders-under-fbi-investigation-for-bank-fraud-hire-lawyers/

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[Methais]

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[Parkbandit]

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[Latrinsorm]

i'm pretty sure tax avoision isn't going to lead to violent revolution. for one thing it's well past february. but sure, great gif

[tyrant-201]

The sharks are feeding.

I was/am a fan of Sanders, but if she did this, they'll have to pay for it. Ain't right no matter who does it.

[SHAFT]

The sharks are feeding.

I was/am a fan of Sanders, but if she did this, they'll have to pay for it. Ain't right no matter who does it.

Did you know Bernie lost? Friendly reminder if you didn't.

Hillary lost too.

[Gelston]

The sharks are feeding.

I was/am a fan of Sanders, but if she did this, they'll have to pay for it. Ain't right no matter who does it.

I am more putting it out there because of Bernie fans who though he was fucking perfect.

Being called a socialist used to be a bad thing in this country.

[Gelston]

i'm pretty sure tax avoision isn't going to lead to violent revolution. for one thing it's well past february. but sure, great gif

How much money did you lose on donating to Bernie?

[hello]

To be fair, this is his wife's problem although he did try to help her out. It's very mild compared to some other Democrats. Trump is just fresh to politics and doesn't have a record yet; I'm willing to bet though that if he were in politics as long as Betn/Hill, his corruption would be EPIC in scale.

It's the man you have to be concerned about not the record, a fox guarding the hen house who hasn't done anything yet is not an indication that he won't do something later.

[Gelston]

To be fair, this is his wife's problem although he did try to help her out. It's very mild compared to some other Democrats. Trump is just fresh to politics and doesn't have a record yet; I'm willing to bet though that if he were in politics as long as Betn/Hill, his corruption would be EPIC in scale.

It's the man you have to be concerned about not the record, a fox guarding the hen house who hasn't done anything yet is not an indication that he won't do something later.

No one likes you.

[hello]

No one likes you.

And girls don't like you 3 pull-up man, what's your point?

[Neveragain]

How much money did you lose on donating to Bernie?

Funny stuff.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccEbUhKHsJI

[Neveragain]

And girls don't like you 3 pull-up man, what's your point?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI

[Parkbandit]

How much money did you lose on donating to Bernie?

He was a Hillary Fangirl.

[Back]

Being called a socialist used to be a bad thing in this country.

I've never understood that. Well, I understand that it's a misguided notion due to ignorance.

If they are guilty then they should suffer the consequences. No one should be above the laws of our country.

[Parkbandit]

I've never understood that. Well, I understand that it's a misguided notion due to ignorance.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


If they are guilty then they should suffer the consequences. No one should be above the laws of our country.

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[~Rocktar~]

To be fair, this is his wife's problem although he did try to help her out. It's very mild compared to some other Democrats. Trump is just fresh to politics and doesn't have a record yet; I'm willing to bet though that if he were in politics as long as Betn/Hill, his corruption would be EPIC in scale.

It's the man you have to be concerned about not the record, a fox guarding the hen house who hasn't done anything yet is not an indication that he won't do something later.

For fucks sake, you missed such an opportunity, you should have said that his corruption would be YUGEEEEE!

[Latrinsorm]

How much money did you lose on donating to Bernie?$0
Being called a socialist used to be a bad thing in this country.So did being called a German. Someday in the next twenty years or so nobody will care about people being Muslim anymore, just like the first 150 or so years of our Republic. That's the thing with boogeymen, you gotta keep recycling them or the fear factor wears off.

[Shaps]

$0So did being called a German. Someday in the next twenty years or so nobody will care about people being Muslim anymore, just like the first 150 or so years of our Republic. That's the thing with boogeymen, you gotta keep recycling them or the fear factor wears off.

You just mixed peoples.. with ideologies.. the very thing that people use for straw arguments and to try and win cheap debate points.

Germans are not bad, Europeans are not bad, Whites are not bad, Blacks are not bad, Mexicans are not bad, Asians are not bad... People are born who and what they are.. That does not make them bad...

Ideologies pushed and driven to subjugate others are... hence.. Nazism... Socialism... Communism... Anarchy... Fascism... are bad.

So yes.. Socialism is the ultimate 1%'er hoax on a people.. "Everyone will be equal!! Everyone will share!! Everyone will have the same things because that is what will make us all equal" bullshit that gets said.. while those in power absolutely crush and destroy anyone that challenges them. It's the ultimate power game... because... a community never truly owns or decides.. there will always been an Alpha and the weak.

But, it sounds cool. It sounds utopian. It's "progressive", even though it's centuries old...

But hey.. that boogeyman is real.. no recycling necessary.. because humans will always been humans..

[tyrant-201]

You just mixed peoples.. with ideologies.. the very thing that people use for straw arguments and to try and win cheap debate points.

Germans are not bad, Europeans are not bad, Whites are not bad, Blacks are not bad, Mexicans are not bad, Asians are not bad... People are born who and what they are.. That does not make them bad...

Ideologies pushed and driven to subjugate others are... hence.. Nazism... Socialism... Communism... Anarchy... Fascism... are bad.

So yes.. Socialism is the ultimate 1%'er hoax on a people.. "Everyone will be equal!! Everyone will share!! Everyone will have the same things because that is what will make us all equal" bullshit that gets said.. while those in power absolutely crush and destroy anyone that challenges them. It's the ultimate power game... because... a community never truly owns or decides.. there will always been an Alpha and the weak.

But, it sounds cool. It sounds utopian. It's "progressive", even though it's centuries old...

But hey.. that boogeyman is real.. no recycling necessary.. because humans will always been humans..

Do you not think Capitalism is a system of exploitation?

[~Rocktar~]

Do you not think Capitalism is a system of exploitation?

All systems are systems of exploitation so what's your point? Capitalism is so far the only government system that works for large groups that doesn't depend on threat of violence to maintain it's self. That alone makes it far superior to all other systems.

Winston Churchill said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others." You could say the same about Capitalism.

[tyrant-201]

All systems are systems of exploitation so what's your point? Capitalism is so far the only government system that works for large groups that doesn't depend on threat of violence to maintain it's self. That alone makes it far superior to all other systems.

Winston Churchill said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others." You could say the same about Capitalism.

Capitalism is not a system of government.

[time4fun]

All systems are systems of exploitation so what's your point? Capitalism is so far the only government system that works for large groups that doesn't depend on threat of violence to maintain it's self. That alone makes it far superior to all other systems.

Winston Churchill said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others." You could say the same about Capitalism.

Your post makes it sound like you don't actually understand what Capitalism is. (Or any other economic system, for that matter)

[~Rocktar~]

Capitalism is not a system of government.

Economic and government systems are so intertwined these days you could argue that it is. However in the classical definition it is not, that is true. That does not invalidate the point.


Your post makes it sound like you don't actually understand what Capitalism is. (Or any other economic system, for that matter)

You calling out anyone on understanding anything is hysterical. Thanks for the laugh.

[tyrant-201]

Economic and government systems are so intertwined these days you could argue that it is. However in the classical definition it is not, that is true. That does not invalidate the point.



You calling out anyone on understanding anything is hysterical. Thanks for the laugh.

From my perspective, the fact that capitalism is so intertwined with our current government is a major problem. Capitalism in its purest form is great. The perverse nature of our current system where moneyed interest buys influence, conglomerates to eliminate competition on a massive scale, and blocks regulation to ensure it doesn't damage the system is not a good thing.

I do not disagree that capitalism is the best economic system out there, but I'd favor an approach where blending other ideologies makes the most sense.

[Tgo01]

Your post makes it sound like you don't actually understand what Capitalism is. (Or any other economic system, for that matter)

"You don't understand what capitalism or any economic system is. But I do! Because I'm very very smart!"

[Latrinsorm]

You just mixed peoples.. with ideologies.. the very thing that people use for straw arguments and to try and win cheap debate points.

Germans are not bad, Europeans are not bad, Whites are not bad, Blacks are not bad, Mexicans are not bad, Asians are not bad... People are born who and what they are.. That does not make them bad...

Ideologies pushed and driven to subjugate others are... hence.. Nazism... Socialism... Communism... Anarchy... Fascism... are bad.

So yes.. Socialism is the ultimate 1%'er hoax on a people.. "Everyone will be equal!! Everyone will share!! Everyone will have the same things because that is what will make us all equal" bullshit that gets said.. while those in power absolutely crush and destroy anyone that challenges them. It's the ultimate power game... because... a community never truly owns or decides.. there will always been an Alpha and the weak.

But, it sounds cool. It sounds utopian. It's "progressive", even though it's centuries old...

But hey.. that boogeyman is real.. no recycling necessary.. because humans will always been humans..whoosh
From my perspective, the fact that capitalism is so intertwined with our current government is a major problem. Capitalism in its purest form is great. The perverse nature of our current system where moneyed interest buys influence, conglomerates to eliminate competition on a massive scale, and blocks regulation to ensure it doesn't damage the system is not a good thing.

I do not disagree that capitalism is the best economic system out there, but I'd favor an approach where blending other ideologies makes the most sense.Good news! We (Murca) have been running a blended economy for over a hundred years. With that mixed system we have become the most powerful nation in the history of the world, beaten back the barbarous Germans (twice), slayed the dragon inflation, conquered the Moon, outlawed the demond marihuana, destroyed the tyranny of Mssr. Auric "Gold" Finger thanks entirely to the price ceiling declarin', wage fixin', limousine-ridin', jet flyin' son of a gun Richard "Thrillhouse" Nixon. Wow! Is there anything a mixed economy can't do?

[tyrant-201]

whooshGood news! We (Murca) have been running a blended economy for over a hundred years. With that mixed system we have become the most powerful nation in the history of the world, beaten back the barbarous Germans (twice), slayed the dragon inflation, conquered the Moon, outlawed the demond marihuana, destroyed the tyranny of Mssr. Auric "Gold" Finger thanks entirely to the price ceiling declarin', wage fixin', limousine-ridin', jet flyin' son of a gun Richard "Thrillhouse" Nixon. Wow! Is there anything a mixed economy can't do?

I'm aware that we have a mixed economy.

[Tgo01]

I'm aware that we have a mixed economy.

Do you even know anything about mixed economies? Or any economies for that matter?

I do. I know about them all.

[tyrant-201]

Do you even know anything about mixed economies? Or any economies for that matter?

I do. I know about them all.

No.

Shit, who even pays our police departments? I bet it's Amazon. They have their finger in everything!

[Gelston]

No, Biff owns the police.

[Latrinsorm]

No, Biff owns the police.HE('S KID) WAS FRAMED!!!!!!!!

[Parkbandit]

I heard a new definition of socialism the other day:

'Socialism is the intersection between incapable and incompetent"

Or something like that.

It honestly doesn't surprise me the types of people who espouse how great socialism is.

[~Rocktar~]

I heard a new definition of socialism the other day:

'Socialism is the intersection between incapable and incompetent"

Or something like that.

It honestly doesn't surprise me the types of people who espouse how great socialism is.

You must spread some reputation around . . .

Love that definition.

[cwolff]

Any of you guys ever been to Europe? It's pretty socialist and pretty damn nice.

[Shaps]

Any of you guys ever been to Europe? It's pretty socialist and pretty damn nice.

You talking after it was completely destroyed and then rebuilt under the Marshall Plan?

If you've noticed what's going on with the EU currently, and I lived in Germany when it was still the Deutsche Mark and after EU integration.. You're right.. they've had a nice run.. but even now it's on a tenuous balance that will eventually tip.

[Methais]

whooshGood news! We (Murca) have been running a blended economy for over a hundred years. With that mixed system we have become the most powerful nation in the history of the world, beaten back the barbarous Germans (twice), slayed the dragon inflation, conquered the Moon, outlawed the demond marihuana, destroyed the tyranny of Mssr. Auric "Gold" Finger thanks entirely to the price ceiling declarin', wage fixin', limousine-ridin', jet flyin' son of a gun Richard "Thrillhouse" Nixon. Wow! Is there anything a mixed economy can't do?

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[Astray]

But but but... integrity.

Fraud? C'mon guys, it's not like Sanders sold out in the... oh.

[tyrant-201]

Wonder what PK has to say about this

[Back]

We already live in a semi socialist country.

Some of you guys really buy into that whole "America" brand thing. Just like the good little consumers the CEOs want you to be.

[Parkbandit]

We already live in a semi socialist country.

Some of you guys really buy into that whole "America" brand thing. Just like the good little consumers the CEOs want you to be.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/14/wtf_2.jpg

[Methais]

We already live in a semi socialist country.

Some of you guys really buy into that whole "America" brand thing. Just like the good little consumers the CEOs want you to be.

Which product of captalism are you posting from?

[Latrinsorm]

You talking after it was completely destroyed and then rebuilt under the Marshall Plan?

If you've noticed what's going on with the EU currently, and I lived in Germany when it was still the Deutsche Mark and after EU integration.. You're right.. they've had a nice run.. but even now it's on a tenuous balance that will eventually tip.The Marshall Plan is quintessential socialism. Wealth redistributed from the rich (us) to the poor (wartorn Europe) under a centrally planned system.

[Shaps]

The Marshall Plan is quintessential socialism. Wealth redistributed from the rich (us) to the poor (wartorn Europe) under a centrally planned system.

C'mon Latrinsorm. You usually make better arguments than this. You know perfectly well that is an apples and oranges thing, and no where near Socialism.

[Parkbandit]

C'mon Latrinsorm. You usually make better arguments than this. You know perfectly well that is an apples and oranges thing, and no where near Socialism.

He does?

Really??

[Shaps]

He does?

Really??

I think so. As said, Latrinsorm usually makes some really good arguments and I enjoy the analytics he applies to the majority of his posts. On this one though... maybe he doesn't? :)

Either way, fun conversations as usual. Keep it going.

[Methais]

I think so. As said, Latrinsorm usually makes some really good arguments and I enjoy the analytics he applies to the majority of his posts. On this one though... maybe he doesn't? :)

Either way, fun conversations as usual. Keep it going.

Anytime someone reads a Latrin post, a troll gets its bridge.

[Latrinsorm]

C'mon Latrinsorm. You usually make better arguments than this. You know perfectly well that is an apples and oranges thing, and no where near Socialism.Wealth redistribution and central planning are defining characteristics of socialism. Look at any right wing criticism (https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/ending-tax-socialism) of the progressive income tax. The only salient difference is that you agree with the Marshall Plan and you disagree with other forms of socialism - that doesn't make them apples and oranges.

[Shaps]

Wealth redistribution and central planning are defining characteristics of socialism. Look at any right wing criticism (https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/ending-tax-socialism) of the progressive income tax. The only salient difference is that you agree with the Marshall Plan and you disagree with other forms of socialism - that doesn't make them apples and oranges.

Actually it does.. as it was an investment. Not the establishment of socialism. It actually was more capitalistic in nature, as it afforded the US a host of political influence and business development.

But if you're going to define socialism as any entity that happens to have more money than another, then gives some of it to them... well.. I can't argue with you on that.

[Methais]

I am more putting it out there because of Bernie fans who though he was fucking perfect.

Being called a socialist used to be a bad thing in this country.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK2B7ShU8TM

Who the fuck's gonna argue with Tim Curry?

[Ceyrin]

Ideologies pushed and driven to subjugate others are... hence.. Nazism... Socialism... Communism... Anarchy... Fascism... are bad

You left out capitalism.

[Shaps]

You left out capitalism.

Actually I left it out because the ones listed are all governed by the State... whereas capitalism is designed to be managed by private individuals.

This doesn't mean there is not corruption in capitalism, only that the framework is best suited to allow people freedom of opportunity and advancement. If we, and I mean all of us, had politicians that sought that for us all... then we'd be in a good place... As it currently stands, IMO, both major parties and our current politicians only do what's best for them... which is angering in and of itself.

I can only hope that we, as the citizens, would elect those that actually sought compromise and governance with an analytical perspective vs. a partisan one.

[Gelston]

Actually I left it out because the ones listed are all governed by the State... whereas capitalism is designed to be managed by private individuals.

This doesn't mean there is not corruption in capitalism, only that the framework is best suited to allow people freedom of opportunity and advancement. If we, and I mean all of us, had politicians that sought that for us all... then we'd be in a good place... As it currently stands, IMO, both major parties and our current politicians only do what's best for them... which is angering in and of itself.

I can only hope that we, as the citizens, would elect those that actually sought compromise and governance with an analytical perspective vs. a partisan one.

HAHA Ceyrin trying to be edgy.