Hollywood slush funds fail to buy election

[~Rocktar~]

So,

Seems the Republican won. So much for that "mandate on Trump."

Even the Communist News Network seems to agree that Republicans won 2 special elections for House seats.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/politics/georgia-house-results-ossoff-handel/index.html

[Tgo01]

Isn't this the fourth Republican win now that Democrats were so sure they would win?

This has gotta hurt. Poor Democrat rapists :(

[Fortybox]

Bwahahahahahaha.

Millions thrown to pajama boy. DENIED.

[drauz]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0IyelpBa6ECdUdeo/giphy.gif

[Candor]

Just wait until 2020 - the Democrats will lose the Presidential election again and the reactions are going to make 2016 look tame.

[Neveragain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYTfzfsbiUI

[Parkbandit]

So,

Seems the Republican won. So much for that "mandate on Trump."

Even the Communist News Network seems to agree that Republicans won 2 special elections for House seats.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/politics/georgia-house-results-ossoff-handel/index.html

Wait.. didn't time4anotherbadpoliticalprediction predict that Ossoff would win?

[Neveragain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_J6gmJYiU

[Parkbandit]

I can guarantee you that Nate Silver of 538 nailed the polling predictions on these 2 races.

He's amazingly accurate. Remember last year when he said Donald Trump was going to be elected President and all his fans didn't want to believe it? It was this all over again.

Nate Silver for President! KING OF THE POLLSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Back]

Yeah. Huff Post has been blaring headlines about these "Trump referendum" elections and democrats have lost every single one. They should try cozying up to Putin, turning back the time machine on our energy policy to mine for coal, and offend every friendly country... wait, EVERY country friendly or not.

[Neveragain]

Yeah. Huff Post has been blaring headlines about these "Trump referendum" elections and democrats have lost every single one. They should try cozying up to Putin, turning back the time machine on our energy policy to mine for coal, and offend every friendly country... wait, EVERY country friendly or not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVA9hl9cDD4

[Neveragain]

Climate change is targeting democrats!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuJbWY6vXsA

[Parkbandit]

Climate change is targeting democrats!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuJbWY6vXsA

Next headline on Huffington Post: "Republicans don't support climate change to disenfranchise voters!!! Also, Russia!!"

[ClydeR]

Team Trump weighs in on Twitter..




http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/rmi08a/conway-ossoff-tweet_zpsrayfuv8x.png
https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/877355893905666048



http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/rmi08a/trump-ossoff-tweet_zpsmtyxk0pz.png
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/877372660455546880


I foresee a major freak out coming. Trump used an O when he should have used a 0! That's not how you make America great again.

[Parkbandit]

5-O!!!!!!!!!!

[ClydeR]

5-O!!!!!!!!!!

Aside from the letter-number c0nfusi0n, the actual statistic is 4-1. They were CA-34, GA-6, KS-4, MT-1 and SC-5. During Obama's first year in office, there were also five special elections, and Obama's statistic was 5-0, not that those wins did him any good during the 2010 midterms.

[hello]

Aside from the letter-number c0nfusi0n, the actual statistic is 4-1. They were CA-34, GA-6, KS-4, MT-1 and SC-5. During Obama's first year in office, there were also five special elections, and Obama's statistic was 5-0, not that those wins did him any good during the 2010 midterms.

lol, CA 34. Good job Dems! At least you've shown you can win against another Dem!

[Gelston]

Aside from the letter-number c0nfusi0n, the actual statistic is 4-1. They were CA-34, GA-6, KS-4, MT-1 and SC-5. During Obama's first year in office, there were also five special elections, and Obama's statistic was 5-0, not that those wins did him any good during the 2010 midterms.

The 5-O is Trumps win and then the remaining Special elections where it was a Dem vs a Republican, where the Demos kept saying the Republican was going to lose.

[Tisket]

Where is your humanity, guys? Think about all the salty tears that have been shed this week resulting in unfortunately dehydrated democrats!

So unkind.

[Parkbandit]

Where is your humanity, guys? Think about all the salty tears that have been shed this week resulting in unfortunately dehydrated democrats!

So unkind.

https://media.giphy.com/media/12zfAjyQ3RZNSw/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[drauz]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/us/pelosi-georgia-ossoff-democrats.html

Representative Tim Ryan of Ohio "Our brand is worse than Trump”.

Mr. Ryan said the Democratic brand had also become “toxic” in much of the country because voters saw Democrats as “not being able to connect with the issues they care about.”

[Tgo01]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/us/pelosi-georgia-ossoff-democrats.html

Representative Tim Ryan of Ohio "Our brand is worse than Trump”.

Mr. Ryan said the Democratic brand had also become “toxic” in much of the country because voters saw Democrats as “not being able to connect with the issues they care about.”

Tim Ryan also followed up with; "In other news, water is wet."

[time4fun]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/us/pelosi-georgia-ossoff-democrats.html

Representative Tim Ryan of Ohio "Our brand is worse than Trump”.

Mr. Ryan said the Democratic brand had also become “toxic” in much of the country because voters saw Democrats as “not being able to connect with the issues they care about.”

If that's true, then why are a bunch of ruby red districts suddenly competitive? GA-6 hasn't had a Democrat since the 70s, and a Democrat came within 5 points of it just 6 months after Trump came into office. Democrats may not have won a special election yet, but each of the districts was deep red. And Dems came shockingly close each time.

If there were a huge Democratic party problem, then these districts would be getting more conservative, not swinging wildly left.

Makes you wonder- how far left will things be in another 6 months? 12 months? This early into a new administration, the party in power should be polling better than before. The big drop doesn't tend to come until a year or so into a Presidency.

There's a lot for Republicans to be nervous about.

[Fortybox]

Liberals are completely out of tune and just...insane. Glad America is finally rejecting the crazy:


https://youtu.be/ghVSZNYPXtw

[Stolis]

If that's true, then why are a bunch of ruby red districts suddenly competitive? GA-6 hasn't had a Democrat since the 70s, and a Democrat came within 5 points of it just 6 months after Trump came into office. Democrats may not have won a special election yet, but each of the districts was deep red. And Dems came shockingly close each time.

If there were a huge Democratic party problem, then these districts would be getting more conservative, not swinging wildly left.

Makes you wonder- how far left will things be in another 6 months? 12 months? This early into a new administration, the party in power should be polling better than before. The big drop doesn't tend to come until a year or so into a Presidency.

There's a lot for Republicans to be nervous about.

https://adamsarson.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/09-28-14-reed-shhh.gif

[Parkbandit]

If that's true, then why are a bunch of ruby red districts suddenly competitive? GA-6 hasn't had a Democrat since the 70s, and a Democrat came within 5 points of it just 6 months after Trump came into office. Democrats may not have won a special election yet, but each of the districts was deep red. And Dems came shockingly close each time.

If there were a huge Democratic party problem, then these districts would be getting more conservative, not swinging wildly left.

Makes you wonder- how far left will things be in another 6 months? 12 months? This early into a new administration, the party in power should be polling better than before. The big drop doesn't tend to come until a year or so into a Presidency.

There's a lot for Republicans to be nervous about.

Translation: "We almost won! Republicans should be very very scared!"

Bitch, please. You couldn't beat our worst candidate ever... Republicans aren't nervous about anything your side has to offer.

[Fortybox]

If that's true, then why are a bunch of ruby red districts suddenly competitive? GA-6 hasn't had a Democrat since the 70s, and a Democrat came within 5 points of it just 6 months after Trump came into office. Democrats may not have won a special election yet, but each of the districts was deep red. And Dems came shockingly close each time.

If there were a huge Democratic party problem, then these districts would be getting more conservative, not swinging wildly left.

Makes you wonder- how far left will things be in another 6 months? 12 months? This early into a new administration, the party in power should be polling better than before. The big drop doesn't tend to come until a year or so into a Presidency.

There's a lot for Republicans to be nervous about.

You mean like what Trump did?

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/news/special/2016/newsspec_15385/img/republican_change_map_976_1_dec.png

[Tgo01]

If that's true, then why are a bunch of ruby red districts suddenly competitive? GA-6 hasn't had a Democrat since the 70s, and a Democrat came within 5 points of it just 6 months after Trump came into office.

Hillary can still win Texas, gais!


Democrats may not have won a special election yet, but each of the districts was deep red. And Dems came shockingly close each time.

Clearly our definitions of "shockingly close" are nowhere near the same.


This early into a new administration, the party in power should be polling better than before.

Seriously, is this your first US election? In modern times the president's party in Congress tends to do worse, not better.

2009 Obama is sworn into office with a Democrat senate and house, 2 years later Democrats lose the house, 4 years later Democrats lose the senate.

1993 Clinton is sworn in with a Democrat senate and house, 2 years later both houses swing to Republican and stay that way for the rest of Clinton's time in office.

Bush Jr. is the exception to this rule, seeing as how he had a Republican controlled congress for most of his time in office, but even that came to an end towards the end of his second term.

[hello]

No, time4fun is right. If we head into a recession this party goes downhill real fast. Right now, there really hasn't been a massive tidal change to the day to day life of Trump's core. It's why Trump wants a "nice healthcare bill with heart" and moving riders onto spending bills that are defacto indirect welfare. He KNOWS the hand that feeds him and he's walking on eggshells to not rock the boat with them in it.

[Fortybox]

No, time4fun is right. If we head into a recession this party goes downhill real fast. Right now, there really hasn't been a massive tidal change to the day to day life of Trump's core. It's why Trump wants a "nice healthcare bill with heart" and moving riders onto spending bills that are defacto indirect welfare. He KNOWS the hand that feeds him and he's walking on eggshells to not rock the boat with them in it.

Recession is happening in late 2018/2019.

[drauz]

If that's true, then why are a bunch of ruby red districts suddenly competitive? GA-6 hasn't had a Democrat since the 70s, and a Democrat came within 5 points of it just 6 months after Trump came into office. Democrats may not have won a special election yet, but each of the districts was deep red. And Dems came shockingly close each time.

If there were a huge Democratic party problem, then these districts would be getting more conservative, not swinging wildly left.

Makes you wonder- how far left will things be in another 6 months? 12 months? This early into a new administration, the party in power should be polling better than before. The big drop doesn't tend to come until a year or so into a Presidency.

There's a lot for Republicans to be nervous about.

Are you forgetting that Republicans just won Pennsylvania and Michigan for the first time since 1988?! Almost 30 years!

So are these states now more red states than blue or do you think they will be blue next Presidential election? Or do you think the people just didn't believe in the message that the Democrats put out and felt that they weren't working for the common man?

I'm with the second and am fairly sure it will swing back blue the next go around.

One voting period can hardly be used to show a trend.

[time4fun]

Are you forgetting that Republicans just won Pennsylvania and Michigan for the first time since 1988?! Almost 30 years! So are these states now more red states than blue or do you think they will be blue next Presidential election?

One voting period can hardly be used to show a trend.

Yes, and if that were the new normal- if this country were shifting red- then these special elections- coming so soon after Trump- should be moving right, not dramatically left.

Don't forget that more people voted for Clinton than for Trump, and Trump's margins in those states were impressive for a Republican but were minuscule overall. And, in response, we're seeing every single special election swinging left. We're not even looking at mixed results here. We're seeing a consistent- and strong- shift left. There are about 90 GOP-controlled districts that weren't as red as GA-6. If GA-6 came within 5% (from over 20% a few months ago) that is a very bad sign for the GOP. Shift all those districts left 7-20 points. Sure, Dems may not win them all, but they'll win a lot.

That doesn't mean that the current trend will stick. Things can change and happen, but there's nothing to celebrate for either side right now. Dems didn't pick up any seats, and Republicans are getting a glimpse at a very possible- and very bleak- electoral future. Trump's approval ratings aren't going up- they're getting worse. And there's no light at the end of the tunnel for him any time soon barring something dramatic. Being under active investigation for obstruction of justice rarely ends well. And that's only the tip of the iceberg for him and those around him.

[Tgo01]

Yes, and if that were the new normal- if this country were shifting red- then these special elections- coming so soon after Trump- should be moving right, not dramatically left.

How can you talk out of both sides of your ass so efficiently? Years of practice or what?

"These 4 elections weren't as far right as one would think!!! Therefore Democrats are gonna take over in 6 months!!!! PROOF!!!!!"

What about these 4 states that swung Republican and gave Trump the win?

"Yeah but those don't count because these 4 elections that Republicans still won!!!11111"

I sincerely hope everyone who took your made up college course in "logic" asked for a refund after they tried these debate tactics of yours in the real world and were laughed out of town.

[drauz]

Yes, and if that were the new normal- if this country were shifting red- then these special elections- coming so soon after Trump- should be moving right, not dramatically left.

Don't forget that more people voted for Clinton than for Trump, and Trump's margins in those states were impressive for a Republican but were minuscule overall. And, in response, we're seeing every single special election swinging left. We're not even looking at mixed results here. We're seeing a consistent- and strong- shift left. There are about 90 GOP-controlled districts that weren't as red as GA-6. If GA-6 came within 5% (from over 20% a few months ago) that is a very bad sign for the GOP. Shift all those districts left 7-20 points. Sure, Dems may not win them all, but they'll win a lot.

That doesn't mean that the current trend will stick. Things can change and happen, but there's nothing to celebrate for either side right now. Dems didn't pick up any seats, and Republicans are getting a glimpse at a very possible- and very bleak- electoral future. Trump's approval ratings aren't going up- they're getting worse. And there's no light at the end of the tunnel for him any time soon barring something dramatic. Being under active investigation for obstruction of justice rarely ends well. And that's only the tip of the iceberg for him and those around him.

Why does the margins matter? THE STATES CHANGED FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE '88! Somehow that is minuscule? Then democrats not even winning these special elections shouldn't even get an afterthought.

But... you want to shine things democrats do in a good light and anything happening to republicans in a negative light.

[time4fun]

Why does the margins matter? THE STATES CHANGED FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE '88! Somehow that is minuscule? Then democrats not even winning these special elections shouldn't even get an afterthought.

But... you want to shine things democrats do in a good light and anything happening to republicans in a negative light.

Did you just ask why margins matter in a conversation about elections...?

[drauz]

Did you just ask why margins matter in a conversation about elections...?

I mean if you can't get what I meant from the following sentences....

[Neveragain]

No, time4fun is right. If we head into a recession this party goes downhill real fast. Right now, there really hasn't been a massive tidal change to the day to day life of Trump's core. It's why Trump wants a "nice healthcare bill with heart" and moving riders onto spending bills that are defacto indirect welfare. He KNOWS the hand that feeds him and he's walking on eggshells to not rock the boat with them in it.

Personally I'm not seeing any signs of recession, actually I'm seeing signs of just the opposite. Housing is a sellers market right now, wages have been going up in our area, central bank has been increasing interest rates and one of the biggest measures I use is how busy the Union Pacific railway is. The railway has not seen this much traffic in almost 10 years, miles and miles of Pennsylvania coal heading west and miles and miles of goods headed east. Sure signs that industry has gained confidence with a Trump White House.

[Shaps]

I think no one.. any of us on here.. or the political pundit hacks have any fucking idea what's going to happen at all in the current election environment.

Every poll shown on mainstream news channels has been wrong for the past mmmmm.. 4-6 years roughly (generally speaking). The desire to sway public opinion and "massage" numbers to fit the narrative they want pushed is completely skewed.

One reason you see traditionally red states turning more purple, is not an increase in Democrats per capita.. it's you see more Democrats fleeing traditional Democratic states and relocating to traditional Republican states... why is this? Due to taxes and quality of life. Unfortunately, that migration affects elections in that area because the dumbasses that move to get away from those policies, still for some reason vote that way.

[hello]

I think no one.. any of us on here.. or the political pundit hacks have any fucking idea what's going to happen at all in the current election environment.

Every poll shown on mainstream news channels has been wrong for the past mmmmm.. 4-6 years roughly (generally speaking). The desire to sway public opinion and "massage" numbers to fit the narrative they want pushed is completely skewed.

One reason you see traditionally red states turning more purple, is not an increase in Democrats per capita.. it's you see more Democrats fleeing traditional Democratic states and relocating to traditional Republican states... why is this? Due to taxes and quality of life. Unfortunately, that migration affects elections in that area because the dumbasses that move to get away from those policies, still for some reason vote that way.

Why would a democrat move from San Fran, Los Angeles, Washington, New York City where all the jobs, money, and hot guys are to live in Alabama or Mississippi?

[Methais]

Team Trump weighs in on Twitter..




I foresee a major freak out coming. Trump used an O when he should have used a 0! That's not how you make America great again.

Know what's a good TV show? Hawaii Five Zero.

[Methais]

If that's true, then why are a bunch of ruby red districts suddenly competitive? GA-6 hasn't had a Democrat since the 70s, and a Democrat came within 5 points of it just 6 months after Trump came into office. Democrats may not have won a special election yet, but each of the districts was deep red. And Dems came shockingly close each time.

If there were a huge Democratic party problem, then these districts would be getting more conservative, not swinging wildly left.

Makes you wonder- how far left will things be in another 6 months? 12 months? This early into a new administration, the party in power should be polling better than before. The big drop doesn't tend to come until a year or so into a Presidency.

There's a lot for Republicans to be nervous about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2quonm59Kc

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-15-2015/_5S3eP.gif

[Neveragain]

If that's true, then why are a bunch of ruby red districts suddenly competitive? GA-6 hasn't had a Democrat since the 70s, and a Democrat came within 5 points of it just 6 months after Trump came into office. Democrats may not have won a special election yet, but each of the districts was deep red. And Dems came shockingly close each time.

If there were a huge Democratic party problem, then these districts would be getting more conservative, not swinging wildly left.

Makes you wonder- how far left will things be in another 6 months? 12 months? This early into a new administration, the party in power should be polling better than before. The big drop doesn't tend to come until a year or so into a Presidency.

There's a lot for Republicans to be nervous about.

Democrats raised 4 million dollars in the month of May, the lowest amount since 2003.

Republicans raised 11 million dollars in May, an all time high.

[Shaps]

Why would a democrat move from San Fran, Los Angeles, Washington, New York City where all the jobs, money, and hot guys are to live in Alabama or Mississippi?

Lol.. there are hot southern guys too ya know.. and if you're a guy.. everyone knows southern women are the best :P .

[Fortybox]

Democrats raised 4 million dollars in the month of May, the lowest amount since 2003.

Republicans raised 11 million dollars in May, an all time high.

She...or he? (I believe Time4fun is a tranny) solely cares about the agenda of the far left.

Logic doesn't matter here. It's all about obliterating the opposition.

[Methais]

Why would a democrat move from San Fran, Los Angeles, Washington, New York City where all the jobs, money, and hot guys are to live in Alabama or Mississippi?

Well for one, figuring out if someone's a male or female or one of these 5823470423 new made up genders in SF/LA/WA/NYC is probably an agonizing process full of triggers and SJW bullshit in every direction.


everyone knows southern women are the best :P .

^

[Neveragain]

She...or he? (I believe Time4fun is a tranny) solely cares about the agenda of the far left.

Logic doesn't matter here. It's all about obliterating the opposition.

Well...Vishra is a shim with penis envy, just make sure you don't drag your belief system into the game or Vishra will lose shims fucking mind.

[Neveragain]

Why would a democrat move from San Fran, Los Angeles, Washington, New York City where all the jobs, money, and hot guys are to live in Alabama or Mississippi?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bY49e6rGjM

[Latrinsorm]

Liberals are completely out of tune and just...insane. Glad America is finally rejecting the crazy:America sent more Democrats to both houses of Congress in 2016 than 2014. If that's rejection, what the blue h#ck do you call acceptance?
Bitch, please. You couldn't beat our worst candidate ever... Republicans aren't nervous about anything your side has to offer.Why else do you think our GOP hasn't delivered on any of their campaign promises?
Say what you will about politicians, they know which way the wind blows, otherwise they don't stay politicians for long.
Seriously, is this your first US election? In modern times the president's party in Congress tends to do worse, not better. 2009 Obama is sworn into office with a Democrat senate and house, 2 years later Democrats lose the house, 4 years later Democrats lose the senate. 1993 Clinton is sworn in with a Democrat senate and house, 2 years later both houses swing to Republican and stay that way for the rest of Clinton's time in office. Bush Jr. is the exception to this rule, seeing as how he had a Republican controlled congress for most of his time in office, but even that came to an end towards the end of his second term.Five months is not close to two years.
What about these 4 states that swung Republican and gave Trump the win?If you look at the margins, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh man I almost kept a straight face, as if you'd ever consider any actual quantitative facts. Whew! Always good for a laugh.

[Tgo01]

If you look at the margins, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh man I almost kept a straight face, as if you'd ever consider any actual quantitative facts. Whew! Always good for a laugh.

Are you having a stroke?

[time4fun]

I'd just like to remind the class here that in 2016:

Democrats got just shy of 11.1 million votes more than Republicans for the Senate (10% more than the last election, btw)
Democrats got over 2.8 million more votes than Republicans for the Presidency
Republicans got just shy of 1.4 million more votes than Democrats in the House. (Democrats gained 6 seats)

So, while it's adorable that a group of conservatives here seem to think that suddenly Democrats are super unpopular and Republicans are super popular- the numbers don't support it by any stretch.

You got the White House (despite a minority of people wanting that to happen), and all it took was a foreign power interfering with our elections and spreading mountains of fake news about the Democratic candidate, hacking into the DNC and selectively leaking emails (and following up with mountains of fake news), and hacking into a bunch of voter registration information to help figure out how best to target their efforts. There's a lot to be proud of here clearly.

You got the Senate because, frankly, you're supposed to. The Senate is supposed to be the thing that eliminates population advantages among states.

You got a 26 seat majority in the House because gerrymandering works, and because liberals tend to flee to densely populated areas because we don't really want to be around you.

But none of this is a reflection of Democrats being deeply unpopular. (At least, not more so than Republicans) There were a lot of factors that went into this- some good, some really, REALLY horrible.

None of which were about the decline of a party with a higher voter identification than Republicans.

[Tgo01]

Democrats got just shy of 11.1 million votes more than Republicans for the Senate (10% more than the last election, btw)

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

No one cares that a state like California with ~40 million people all voted between Democrat 1 and Democrat 2 and a small state like Iowa with ~3 million people were splitting their votes between a Republican and a Democrat.

No one fucking cares because only a 5 year old would think it matters. Holy shit you're dumb.


Democrats got over 2.8 million more votes than Republicans for the Presidency

Too bad having big states like California and New York being brain dead Democrat states doesn't win presidencies.


So, while it's adorable that a group of conservatives here seem to think that suddenly Democrats are super unpopular and Republicans are super popular- the numbers don't support it by any stretch.

No one is saying Democrats are "suddenly unpopular" as a whole. They are unpopular at the moment where it counts. Yes, Democrats have big states like California and New York where they will continue to vote Democrat like good little drones. Other states haven't jumped on the brain dead bandwagon, in fact some states have swung away. Remember those states that Obama won easily that Hillary lost?

Remember 8 years ago Democrats controlled all of congress?

Remember how that all changed?

Because the Democrat brand tends to be shit outside of large cities.

Hell, look at this map of how California voted in the 2016 presidential election:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/California_Presidential_Election_Results_2016.svg/621px-California_Presidential_Election_Results_2016.svg. png

Notice the really dark blue spots are where all of the large cities are? Notice the light red and dark red spots where there aren't large cities?

This is exactly why our federal elections work the way they do; we don't want a bunch of morons in large cities deciding everything. Maybe instead of telling people in rural parts of the country that they are just racist and sexist and they should prove they aren't racist and sexist by voting Democrat, Democrats should pull their heads out of their collective asshole and start caring about people who don't live in large cities.

[Tgo01]

Here's a map of the entire US and how the counties voted in 2016:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg/1280px-2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg.png

Again, notice all of the red in rural parts of the country? Notice all of the blue (even in states like Texas!) where the large cities are?

Hell, look at Washington state, which is just California Jr. Over twice as many counties went for Trump as they did for Hillary. Only the big cities went for Hillary!

Are you really this stupid, time4fun?

[Latrinsorm]

No one is saying Democrats are "suddenly unpopular" as a whole. They are unpopular at the moment where it counts. ... Maybe instead of telling people in rural parts of the country that they are just racist and sexist and they should prove they aren't racist and sexist by voting Democrat, Democrats should pull their heads out of their collective asshole and start caring about people who don't live in large cities.I can provide a quote from this thread that says the former. Here it is. "Liberals are completely out of tune and just...insane. Glad America is finally rejecting the crazy"

Let's see if you can provide a quote from any thread that says the latter.

[Tgo01]

I can provide a quote from this thread that says the former. Here it is. "Liberals are completely out of tune and just...insane. Glad America is finally rejecting the crazy"

Let's see if you can provide a quote from any thread that says the latter.

Your mom wears combat boots.

[tyrant-201]

Your mom wears combat boots.

That's sexist

[Tgo01]

That's sexist

Your first thought is that a woman can't wear combat boots? That combat is only for men!?

That, sir, is sexist.

[~Rocktar~]

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/man-eating-potato-chips-hurriedly-caucasian-hurry-51643417.jpg

[tyrant-201]

Your first thought is that a woman can't wear combat boots? That combat is only for men!?

That, sir, is sexist.

What, I can't think combat boots are only for men because I'm a man? That's sexist.

[Fortybox]

Here's a map of the entire US and how the counties voted in 2016:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg/1280px-2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg.png

Again, notice all of the red in rural parts of the country? Notice all of the blue (even in states like Texas!) where the large cities are?

Hell, look at Washington state, which is just California Jr. Over twice as many counties went for Trump as they did for Hillary. Only the big cities went for Hillary!

Are you really this stupid, time4fun?

Time4Retards doesn't view the country like that though. States mean nothing to the liberal mindset. The government needs to control everything because we are all wicked horrible people.

[tyrant-201]

Time4Retards doesn't view the country like that though. States mean nothing to the liberal mindset. The government needs to control everything because we are all wicked horrible people.

Let's be fair here. The Federal government is a weapon to be used whenever expedient by either party.

[Neveragain]

Let's be fair here. The Federal government is a weapon to be used whenever expedient by either party.

This being said, I can assume that you agree that the Government should not be in charge of our health?

8671

[tyrant-201]

This being said, I can assume that you agree that the Government should not be in charge of our health?

8671

Sure, who will ensure the American people have adequate health care?

[time4fun]

Time4Retards doesn't view the country like that though. States mean nothing to the liberal mindset. The government needs to control everything because we are all wicked horrible people.

Uh. Do you even know where the states rights argument came from?

Both parties are pro big government. Democrats think the government should be involved in the economy to protect people but should stay away from the way people live their lives personally.

Republicans want the government to stay out of the economy but want the government to control people's personal lives.

[Tgo01]

Democrats think the government should be involved in the economy to protect people but should stay away from the way people live their lives personally.

HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

[tyrant-201]

HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

It's funny that anyone thinks either political party believes this. Don't you agree?

[tyrant-201]

Uh. Do you even know where the states rights argument came from?

Both parties are pro big government. Democrats think the government should be involved in the economy to protect people but should stay away from the way people live their lives personally.

Republicans want the government to stay out of the economy but want the government to control people's personal lives.

You are stupid. Please stop posting. You make "our" side look bad.

[Tgo01]

It's funny that anyone thinks either political party believes this. Don't you agree?

Of course both parties have elements that want to control people's lives. That's what government is all about.

One could argue that one side wants less government intrusion in people's lives, but the idea that either party wants to completely stay out of the way people live?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[tyrant-201]

Of course both parties have elements that want to control people's lives. That's what government is all about.

One could argue that one side wants less government intrusion in people's lives, but the idea that either party wants to completely stay out of the way people live?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I concur. HAHAHHAAHAHA

[Fortybox]

HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

I kek'd

[Neveragain]

Sure, who will ensure the American people have adequate health care?

Individuals and their Doctors.

[tyrant-201]

Individuals and their Doctors.

Uh-huh. Such a simple answer. Bound to work for 320 million + people.

[Neveragain]

Uh-huh. Such a simple answer. Bound to work for 320 million + people.

So the better answer is to use coercion and let the likes of Nancy Pelosi and John McCain make healthcare decisions for 320 million people ?

Is it your own incompetence that makes you worry about making your own healthcare decisions or is it that you feel others are incompetent ?

[tyrant-201]

So the better answer is to use coercion and let the likes of Nancy Pelosi and John McCain make healthcare decisions for 320 million people ?

Is it your own incompetence that makes you worry about making your own healthcare decisions or is it that you feel others are incompetent ?

I wish I saw the world in black and white like you do. Wait, I don't.

[Methais]

I'd just like to remind the class here that in 2016:

Democrats got just shy of 11.1 million votes more than Republicans for the Senate (10% more than the last election, btw)
Democrats got over 2.8 million more votes than Republicans for the Presidency
Republicans got just shy of 1.4 million more votes than Democrats in the House. (Democrats gained 6 seats)

So, while it's adorable that a group of conservatives here seem to think that suddenly Democrats are super unpopular and Republicans are super popular- the numbers don't support it by any stretch.

You got the White House (despite a minority of people wanting that to happen), and all it took was a foreign power interfering with our elections and spreading mountains of fake news about the Democratic candidate, hacking into the DNC and selectively leaking emails (and following up with mountains of fake news), and hacking into a bunch of voter registration information to help figure out how best to target their efforts. There's a lot to be proud of here clearly.

You got the Senate because, frankly, you're supposed to. The Senate is supposed to be the thing that eliminates population advantages among states.

You got a 26 seat majority in the House because gerrymandering works, and because liberals tend to flee to densely populated areas because we don't really want to be around you.

But none of this is a reflection of Democrats being deeply unpopular. (At least, not more so than Republicans) There were a lot of factors that went into this- some good, some really, REALLY horrible.

None of which were about the decline of a party with a higher voter identification than Republicans.

You're stupid as fuck and the way you try to act all condescending toward people you disagree with (even though you're always wrong) as if they're schoolchildren, just before barfing up even more of your insane levels of retardedness that ironically most schoolchildren are probably smarter than, would be sad as fuck if it weren't so funny.

Or maybe it's sad as fuck despite being hilarious.

Either way you're a delusional fart sniffing expired for 3 weeks at room temperature milk smelling twatbutter on a moldy bagel.

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You got a 26 seat majority in the House because gerrymandering works, and because liberals tend to flee to densely populated areas because we don't really want to be around you.

Lol party of tolerance.

[Neveragain]

I wish I saw the world in black and white like you do. Wait, I don't.

Ok, let's go back to where you said this:
Let's be fair here. The Federal government is a weapon to be used whenever expedient by either party.

But somehow for whatever reason that may be, you want to hand your life decisions to these people.

There's really nothing black or white about it, you have to use coercion to make your free healthcare pipe dream work.

Thanks Uncle Joe, my doctor never could have figured it out without you picking our pocket.