Paris Accord

[Parkbandit]

President Trump has pulled out of the Paris Accords.. a treaty that did nothing to enforce greenhouse gas emmissions and did even less about actually "fixing" man-made global climate change.

So far, my favorite reaction is from the ACLU:

https://pictures.grabien.com/newsstories/inline/5449_2.jpg

lolwut? President Trump pulled out of this accord because he's a racist?

That's like time4fun level of stupidity right there.

[Gelston]

Everything is racist!

[Parkbandit]

"This will be the day that the United States resigned as the leader of the free world." -CNN contributor Fareed Zakaria

[hello]

Trump is the man!

Fuck other countries! America First! America First!

Now he just needs to create a fair and equitable tax plan (not one that steals from the poor to give to the rich). And pass a new Glass Steagall. He's job will be done.

[Gelston]

"This will be the day that the United States resigned as the leader of the free world." -CNN contributor Fareed Zakaria

Yeah, somehow Angela Merkel is now the leader of the freeworld because we pulled out of this.

[Wrathbringer]

Just something else for butthurt liberals to tard about. Talk about fake news.

[time4fun]

Trump is the man!

Fuck other countries! America First! America First!

Now he just needs to create a fair and equitable tax plan (not one that steals from the poor to give to the rich). And pass a new Glass Steagall. He's job will be done.

He's not passing Glass Steagall. Pay attention to what he does, not what he says.

[Wrathbringer]

He's not passing Glass Steagall. Pay attention to what he does, not what he says.

Speaking of tards...

[time4fun]

Yeah, somehow Angela Merkel is now the leader of the freeworld because we pulled out of this.

Putin must be walking on air right now. All he wanted was for the US to withdraw from its leadership from the world, and that's exactly what Trump has been making happen.

It's all a larger pattern.

Keep applauding it.

[Wrathbringer]

Putin must be walking on air right now. All he wanted was for the US to withdraw from its leadership from the world, and that's exactly what Trump has been making happen.

It's all a larger pattern.

Keep applauding it.

:lol:

[Parkbandit]

Putin must be walking on air right now. All he wanted was for the US to withdraw from its leadership from the world, and that's exactly what Trump has been making happen.

It's all a larger pattern.

Keep applauding it.

Keep guaranteeing that President Trump will be re-elected.

It's idiots like you who ushered in the Era of Trump.

Hope you are proud.

[~Rocktar~]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/17093/7-things-you-need-know-about-paris-accord-aaron-bandler

[Tgo01]

Putin must be walking on air right now. All he wanted was for the US to withdraw from its leadership from the world, and that's exactly what Trump has been making happen.

It's all a larger pattern.

Keep applauding it.

It's honestly hard to tell anymore if you're still this stupid, or if you've finally realized how stupid you are so you just keep playing the part for our amusement.

[Wrathbringer]

It's honestly hard to tell anymore if you're still this stupid, or if you've finally realized how stupid you are so you just keep playing the part for our amusement.

He/she/it is retarded in a very profound way.

[Ardwen]

How exactly will this help american jobs? When countries in the accord start adding massive carbon based tariffs on US exports and along with the roll backs on the mileage rules american cars fall below their standards for fuel efficiency?

[hello]

No, the US pulling out of Paris is a pretty serious withdrawal of leadership in world affairs. Minutes after Trump withdrew from Paris, Macron(French Pres) pleaded with US scientists to come and continue research in France. This isn't because Macron loves polar bears but to gain a strategic advantage in science and tech which will seep into other sectors like defense and the economy in general.

I think it's all in the name. People hear 'Green Energy' and immediately they think of enviormentalists, women in pink hats, save the whale posters, and a whole lot of money down the drain. A waste, to save a bunch of polar bears which is just all fake anyway basically. This is like calling the rickety wood and canvas contraption built by two brothers from Dayton a waste and will never fly.

People need to realize 'Green Energy' should really be called 'Future Energy', because that's what it is. It includes technologies like Fusion, Biological energy, fuel cells, and Batteries. One can divide human progress into epochs delineated by what type of energy source they are using at the time (burning sticks to nuclear energy); in fact when aliens pass over our planet most likely the 'quick and dirty' way they determine our civilization level is through the type of energy we use. (fucking dumbass monkeys still burning rocks and fossilized dead plant liquid.. HAhaHaHAHA!)

So, in that vein the Paris Accord can be renamed "leadership in future energy tech that can be used to conquer other nations and rule the galaxy club".

[Wrathbringer]

How exactly will this help american jobs?

Thank you for admitting you understand nothing about how this will help American jobs.

[Neveragain]

How exactly will this help american jobs? When countries in the accord start adding massive carbon based tariffs on US exports and along with the roll backs on the mileage rules american cars fall below their standards for fuel efficiency?

Wouldn't those tariffs give incentive for American companies to adjust their practices anyway?

German car manufacturers have already proven they are willing to cheat American consumers on our EPA emission standards.


http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34324772

[Parkbandit]

How exactly will this help american jobs? When countries in the accord start adding massive carbon based tariffs on US exports and along with the roll backs on the mileage rules american cars fall below their standards for fuel efficiency?

We were really the only one doing anything. China? "Yea, we will begin curbing emissions by 2030" THANKS!

And all Treaties require Congressional approval... this was called an "accord" to bypass that function. Well.. thanks to Obama, it was very easy for Trump to cancel it.. because an "accord" can be withdrawn from by a President.

There was no way to enforce these measures and it did nothing to actually help the environment. It was nothing more than a feel good treaty that collected money, mostly from the US.. to spend how it wants.

[Parkbandit]

And people, you can all relax. Michael Bloomberg has already stated he will pony up the "15 million" the US won't be paying now.

Thanks! I mean, it's almost the 3 billion dollars we were supposed to throw away. Pony up the rest of the 2,985,000,000 if you want to look like a white knight.

[Methais]

"This will be the day that the United States resigned as the leader of the free world." -CNN contributor Fareed Zakaria


Speaking of tards...


Putin must be walking on air right now. All he wanted was for the US to withdraw from its leadership from the world, and that's exactly what Trump has been making happen.

Holy fuck you're more reliable than Domino's Pizza. :lol:

[time4fun]

How exactly will this help american jobs? When countries in the accord start adding massive carbon based tariffs on US exports and along with the roll backs on the mileage rules american cars fall below their standards for fuel efficiency?

Anyone who thinks this helps US jobs doesn't understand the Paris Accord and has been hanging out in right wing media too long.

[Ardwen]

American car manufacturers are also cheating the same emission standards, whats your point?

[Tisket]

Holy fuck you're more reliable than Domino's Pizza. :lol:

We ordered from them yesterday and the pizza looked like someone played frisbee with it. All the toppings were there, just all to one side of the box.

I blame global warming.

[Parkbandit]

Anyone who thinks this helps US jobs doesn't understand the Paris Accord and has been hanging out in right wing media too long.

LOL

1-800-Dominoes.

[Tgo01]

Anyone who thinks this helps US jobs doesn't understand the Paris Accord and has been hanging out in right wing media too long.

Just for fucking ONCE it would be great if you actually explained your fucking position. You do this in every fucking thread. "I'm soooooo smart! You all just don't understand how bad this is! But I do! I get it! Because I'm so smart. Did I mention how smart I am? Ask me about my 20 women study majors and my time I taught logic."

Just fucking tell us what we are all missing and how pulling out of the Paris Accord is going to hurt US jobs. Use your words. Cite sources. Pull your head out of your ass. Or better yet just realize what a fucking hack you are and just shut the fuck up.

[hello]

Just for fucking ONCE it would be great if you actually explained your fucking position. You do this in every fucking thread. "I'm soooooo smart! You all just don't understand how bad this is! But I do! I get it! Because I'm so smart. Did I mention how smart I am? Ask me about my 20 women study majors and my time I taught logic."

Just fucking tell us what we are all missing and how pulling out of the Paris Accord is going to hurt US jobs. Use your words. Cite sources. Pull your head out of your ass. Or better yet just realize what a fucking hack you are and just shut the fuck up.

Because you're killing potential hi-tech jobs in new energy like a tokonaut fusion engine whatever and effectively removing impetus towards those new forms of energy and replacing them with 19th century coal mining jobs.

Effectively, you're destroying future development which will have vastly more returns for short term relief of pain for lower end workers (who probably will lose their jobs eventually anyhow.)

I'm not making a judgement call on it either way; but it is what it is. If I were a coal miner I would be happy though.

P.S.And Whirlin I'm on vacay will you please stop IP stalking me... seriously lighten up.

[Parkbandit]

Because you're killing potential hi-tech jobs in new energy like a tokonaut fusion engine whatever and effectively removing impetus towards those new forms of energy and replacing them with 19th century coal mining jobs.

Effectively, you're destroying future development which will have vastly more returns for short term relief of pain for lower end workers (who probably will lose their jobs eventually anyhow.)

I'm not making a judgement call on it either way; but it is what it is. If I were a coal miner I would be happy though.

P.S.And Whirlin I'm on vacay will you please stop IP stalking me... seriously lighten up.

Wait...

I can't tell if you are still trolling or if this is actually your position.

You honestly believe that capitalism will be completely forgotten in the alternative fuels market.. because we pulled out of an unbinding agreement that had no mechanism of enforcement?

Really?

[hello]

Wait...

I can't tell if you are still trolling or if this is actually your position.

You honestly believe that capitalism will be completely forgotten in the alternative fuels market.. because we pulled out of an unbinding agreement that had no mechanism of enforcement?

Really?

Capitalism is great, and it works.. for the most part.

But, on occassion,especially for basic science research where the returns are not until decades or a century from now, no company will touch it. In fact, companies nowadays are concerned about returns in the micro time frame (read as next fiscal quarter) and shareholders judge a company based on these ultra short term gains. It's a massive problem and the latest symptom of this was the 08' crash (short term leverage till your company's assets aren't even worth 1 1/1000th of liabilities, but it's OK since it looks good next quarter).

Research in the most basic of sciences (new forms of energy) are crucial. I would say it's importance can be equated to 1/5th the loss of the US population (roughly 70 million lives). Seriously, if we're not first or at least have people who can understand and make this stuff, we're in for a world of hurt in the next big war or space race or pretty much anything involving human ingenuity.

[time4fun]

Because you're killing potential hi-tech jobs in new energy like a tokonaut fusion engine whatever and effectively removing impetus towards those new forms of energy and replacing them with 19th century coal mining jobs.

Effectively, you're destroying future development which will have vastly more returns for short term relief of pain for lower end workers (who probably will lose their jobs eventually anyhow.)



All of which Tgo would have understood if he had done 30 seconds of research in a non-right-wing news outlet.

Solar energy has been expanding at a rate of 17x (http://www.irena.org/DocumentDownloads/Publications/IRENA_RE_Jobs_Annual_Review_2017.pdf) that of the national economy.

Several prominent economists (https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/05/31/us/politics/ap-us-trump-climate-economy.html) have come out to say that withdrawing from the Paris Accord won't actually create any jobs.

And Trump's speech on the subject has been fact checked into oblivion by several (http://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/factchecking-trumps-climate-speech/)different (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jun/01/fact-checking-donald-trumps-statement-withdrawing-/)publications (http://www.businessinsider.com/fact-check-trump-reasons-for-leaving-paris-agreement-2017-6/#job-losses-1).

Meanwhile global warming is taking a huge toll on the world right now. A guy in the white house just sold out the planet because- in his juvenile outlook on life- he thinks it'll make more people like him. Or, you know, it's part of the pattern of behavior that has systematically damaged the US's ability to serve as a global leader. If nothing else- Putin is pleased.

[hello]

All of which Tgo would have understood if he had done 30 seconds of research in a non-right-wing news outlet.

Solar energy has been expanding at a rate of 17x (http://www.irena.org/DocumentDownloads/Publications/IRENA_RE_Jobs_Annual_Review_2017.pdf) that of the national economy.

Several prominent economists (https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/05/31/us/politics/ap-us-trump-climate-economy.html) have come out to say that withdrawing from the Paris Accord won't actually create any jobs.

And Trump's speech on the subject has been fact checked into oblivion by several (http://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/factchecking-trumps-climate-speech/)different (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jun/01/fact-checking-donald-trumps-statement-withdrawing-/)publications (http://www.businessinsider.com/fact-check-trump-reasons-for-leaving-paris-agreement-2017-6/#job-losses-1).

Meanwhile global warming is taking a huge toll on the world right now. A guy in the white house just sold out the planet because- in his juvenile outlook on life- he thinks it'll make more people like him. Or, you know, it's part of the pattern of behavior that has systematically damaged the US's ability to serve as a global leader. If nothing else- Putin is pleased.

Putin signed onto the Paris agreement meaning he'll be at these meetings but Trump (and America will be absent). Just by the point of us having a seat at the table when 99% of the world's nations gathers makes the accord worthwhile. Just give displaced West Virginian coal miners free job re-training and their kids a 4 year scholarship to WVA U. Done, settled.

[Back]

Trump is an idiot. He's only out for himself and his criminal friends on Wall Street.

[Whirlin]

But how are we supposed to afford sending people to college and stuff? We have a wall to build

[hello]

Always liked this quote and it never was proven wrong thus far...

"In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law...? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will."

[Parkbandit]

Meanwhile global warming is taking a huge toll on the world right now. A guy in the white house just sold out the planet because- in his juvenile outlook on life- he thinks it'll make more people like him. Or, you know, it's part of the pattern of behavior that has systematically damaged the US's ability to serve as a global leader. If nothing else- Putin is pleased.

Wait.. what huge toll is man made global warming taking right now? Be specific.

Also.. with an 8 month investigation on ZOMGRUSSIA! that has taken place.. there is still zero evidence that there has been any collusion with the Trump administration. Do you have a timetable when you will stop using that as an excuse as to why Hillary lost?

[Back]

Trump and Putin made a deal. Putin would help Trump win and when Trump won he would lift the sanctions on Russia.

[Parkbandit]

Trump and Putin made a deal. Putin would help Trump win and when Trump won he would lift the sanctions on Russia.

Back.. if you are going to have Drunk Storytelling Time with Backlash, let people know about it prior to you starting.

Weird I haven't heard of this deal on any news sites. Can you link it?

[hello]

Trumps been president like 120 days, give him at least 1 year before judgement. Pulling out of a climate accord is bad but could be part of a broader strategy.

[tyrant-201]

Trump and Putin clearly don't have any sort of deal in the works. Everyone knows Trump hates Russia. Come on.

[Methais]

Trump and Putin made a deal. Putin would help Trump win and when Trump won he would lift the sanctions on Russia.

What exactly did Putin do to "help Trump win"?


Meanwhile global warming is taking a huge toll on the world right now. A guy in the white house just sold out the planet because- in his juvenile outlook on life- he thinks it'll make more people like him. Or, you know, it's part of the pattern of behavior that has systematically damaged the US's ability to serve as a global leader. If nothing else- Putin is pleased.

What exactly is global warming doing right now that it's taking such a huge toll on the world?

[Ardwen]

Ask the Marshall Islands or any of the island nations in the pacific that question about global warming methais

[Methais]

Ask the Marshall Islands or any of the island nations in the pacific that question about global warming methais

But I want to hear time4fun's version because I know she'll deliver, possibly in 30 minutes or less.

Plus I don't have the phone number to any pacific island nations.

Hey wait. You seem to know about those islands. Save me a phone call here.

[Tgo01]

All of which Tgo would have understood if he had done 30 seconds of research in a non-right-wing news outlet.

Oh goodie! I was hoping you would quote hello and basically say "yeah, that."


Because you're killing potential hi-tech jobs in new energy like a tokonaut fusion engine whatever and effectively removing impetus towards those new forms of energy and replacing them with 19th century coal mining jobs.

Perhaps I missed it but where did Trump do any of this?


Effectively, you're destroying future development which will have vastly more returns for short term relief of pain for lower end workers (who probably will lose their jobs eventually anyhow.)

Again, where did Trump do any of this? And again, use your words and cite your sources, time4fun. But we all know you won't! Hyperbole and fear mongering works easier!!


Solar energy has been expanding at a rate of 17x (http://www.irena.org/DocumentDownloads/Publications/IRENA_RE_Jobs_Annual_Review_2017.pdf) that of the national economy.

What does that have anything at all to do with the Paris accord? Again, USE YOUR FUCKING WORDS.


Several prominent economists (https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/05/31/us/politics/ap-us-trump-climate-economy.html) have come out to say that withdrawing from the Paris Accord won't actually create any jobs.


They say the agreement would likely help create about as many jobs in renewable energy as it might cost in polluting industries.

This is the best you could come up with? The agreement would "likely" help create as many green jobs as it costs in dirty jobs? So the Paris accord would be a wash in terms of jobs according to these economists? Should I go ahead and link to sources that say the Paris accord would be bad for the economy? Or would I be wasting my time because you would just scream "OMG! RIGHT WING NEWS!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!"

Also just the fact that we won't be pissing away money by giving it to other countries alone would help OUR economy and spur job growth, right? So it looks like you've already lost this argument based on your zero net job growth either way.


And Trump's speech on the subject has been fact checked into oblivion by several (http://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/factchecking-trumps-climate-speech/)different (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jun/01/fact-checking-donald-trumps-statement-withdrawing-/)publications (http://www.businessinsider.com/fact-check-trump-reasons-for-leaving-paris-agreement-2017-6/#job-losses-1).

You do know it's not just Trump that thinks this was a bad deal for the US, right? Just want to make sure we're on the same page that anyone can "fact check" something. At least you didn't cite Politifact so I'll give you that much.


A guy in the white house just sold out the planet because- in his juvenile outlook on life- he thinks it'll make more people like him.

Trump didn't sell out shit, this is more pathetic fear mongering on your part. The rest of the world is free to (voluntarily) abide by the Paris accord, unless of course the entire accord relied on money from the US in order to make it work, which kinds of goes to show Trump was right, right?

Also the US is still free to reduce its greenhouse emissions, like it has been doing for many fucking years now. Why do you think so many people are buying solar panels for their roofs and buying electric/hybrid cars? Because the federal government gives these people subsidies to make these purchases a reality because without said subsidies many people would never buy them because they are not cost efficient. Not to mention all of the renewable sources of energy the government has been pushing.

But hey! Let's just ignore all of those pesky facts! Trump pulled us out of a bullshit accord that demanded money from the US in exchange for a mere promise that other countries would reduce their green house emissions, all the while not expecting a single thing out of dirty ass fucking countries such as China and India for 13 years.

BUT TRUMP DID SOMETHING! HE DESTROYED THE PLANET!

Crack open a fucking book sometime and do your own damn research instead of parroting back shit you hear on the radio and TV because it's getting tiring educating you so often.

[tyrant-201]

Libtard media conspiracy. Global warming isn't real. Go cry some more, snowflakes. Trump 2020.

[Tgo01]

Libtard media conspiracy. Global warming isn't real. Go cry some more, snowflakes. Trump 2020.

I'm not saying climate change isn't happening. What I'm saying is the Paris accord is worthless.

Telling the largest polluter on the planet, more so than the US+Europe combined, that they can go ahead and keep polluting their hearts out for 13 years then maybe if they feel like it they can go ahead and start looking into cutting back their emissions? Meanwhile the US is expected to make huge cuts right away, and oh yeah! Give away money to "poor" countries with no strings attached that they will actually cut their emissions.

This isn't an environmental policy, it's a leftist's "feel good" policy. And oh yeah, a way to siphon more money from the US.

[tyrant-201]

I'm not saying climate change isn't happening. What I'm saying is the Paris accord is worthless.

Telling the largest polluter on the planet, more so than the US+Europe combined, that they can go ahead and keep polluting their hearts out for 13 years then maybe if they feel like it they can go ahead and start looking into cutting back their emissions? Meanwhile the US is expected to make huge cuts right away, and oh yeah! Give away money to "poor" countries with no strings attached that they will actually cut their emissions.

This isn't an environmental policy, it's a leftist's "feel good" policy. And oh yeah, a way to siphon more money from the US.

I agree. It was a major step to withdraw from that voluntary agreement. It tells the world the US isn't fucking around anymore. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP.

[Tgo01]

I agree. It was a major step to withdraw from that voluntary agreement. It tells the world the US isn't fucking around anymore. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP.

Now you're getting it.

[time4fun]

I agree. It was a major step to withdraw from that voluntary agreement. It tells the world the US isn't fucking around anymore. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP.

Really? Seems like it was actually a sign that we ARE fucking around now.

[Tgo01]

Really? Seems like it was actually a sign that we ARE fucking around now.

O <----- Joke




















O < ------ Your head

[time4fun]

Putin signed onto the Paris agreement meaning he'll be at these meetings but Trump (and America will be absent). Just by the point of us having a seat at the table when 99% of the world's nations gathers makes the accord worthwhile. Just give displaced West Virginian coal miners free job re-training and their kids a 4 year scholarship to WVA U. Done, settled.

This is what should have happened. We could have trained coal miners to work in solar and could've used the Paris accord as a reason to bring more renewable energy enterprise to those areas. There's already a thriving renewable energy industry out in a lot of those areas- largely the result of the stimulus money. We could've kept moving in that direction.

But, instead, after spending a few decades convincing 1/3 of this country that climate change ISN'T human-made and a massive threat to us all, the conservative movement is placating their base by keeping up the ruse. It's disgusting, and it's continuing the trend of removing the US from its global leadership position- precisely what Putin wanted. The same thing he's wanted from every European business leader candidate he's backed: Down with NATO, <INSERT COUNTRY HERE> First, Withdraw from all global obligations, lift Russian sanctions, etc. But, in our case, it's totally a coincidence of course.

[Latrinsorm]

But how are we supposed to afford sending people to college and stuff? We have a wall to buildWall E was a huge success, stands to reason Wall U. will be too. If we make the mascot the Fighting Orangemen do you think that'll be too on the nose, or not enough.
Wait.. what huge toll is man made global warming taking right now? Be specific.

Also.. with an 8 month investigation on ZOMGRUSSIA! that has taken place.. there is still zero evidence that there has been any collusion with the Trump administration. Do you have a timetable when you will stop using that as an excuse as to why Hillary lost?Consider that President Nixon's tapes were revealed to the public 17 months after the first select committee was formed, and over two years after the first press reports on Watergate in general. Consider also that the President himself had no direct involvement in the burglaries whatsoever, but was (on track to be) impeached due to his obstruction of the investigation of the coverup he directly ordered.

[hello]

I'm not saying climate change isn't happening. What I'm saying is the Paris accord is worthless.

Telling the largest polluter on the planet, more so than the US+Europe combined, that they can go ahead and keep polluting their hearts out for 13 years then maybe if they feel like it they can go ahead and start looking into cutting back their emissions? Meanwhile the US is expected to make huge cuts right away, and oh yeah! Give away money to "poor" countries with no strings attached that they will actually cut their emissions.

This isn't an environmental policy, it's a leftist's "feel good" policy. And oh yeah, a way to siphon more money from the US.

It's not, per capita India and China(which I assume you're talking about) pollute less. Not only that, but the US has been a CO2 emitter since at least the 1880's and Europe since the 1850's. China hasn't seen those levels of industrialization since the 1970's and India after that.

2011 Total Emissions Country Rank

2011 Total Carbon Dioxide Emissions from the Consumption of Energy (Million Metric Tons)

2011 Per Capita Carbon Dioxide Emissions from the Consumption of Energy (Metric Tons of Carbon Dioxide per Person)
Country Total Per Capita

1. China 8715.31 6.52
2. United States 5490.63 17.62
3. Russia 1788.14 12.55
4. India 1725.76 1.45
5. Japan 1180.62 9.26
6. Germany 748.49 9.19
7. Iran 624.86 8.02
8. South Korea 610.95 12.53
9. Canada 552.56 16.24
10. Saudi Arabia 513.53 19.65

You have a very optimistic view on international relations. I don't think you understand how nations agree on global matters especially so caustic a topic as greenhouse gases and economic development.

Countries are sociopathic...like this guy sociopathic. vvv
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bq6bQqgCEAIBufX.jpg

For the Paris Accord to happen, the EU and China bent over backwards to accomodate US demands to relax the SDM (sustainable development mechanism) which has been reinforced after Kyoto. Most developed nations embraced the new SDM since it was thought that it will shift industries to newer technologies, developing nations dithered as the infrastructure and investment didn't exist to accomodate such energy technologies. They were ultimately persuaded by monetary contributions but also threat of trade restrictions in accordance with new EU ratified guidelines. In the end, like in life, the guy with the money wins.

If the U.S. continues down this path, I see us losing in energy tech and ultimately falling behind economically.

[Parkbandit]

Really? Seems like it was actually a sign that we ARE fucking around now.

http://i.imgur.com/MYNvIv3.png

[Godsanvil]

Until they fix stuff like this. https://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/6296-The-world-s-longest-burning-fires-China-s-unseen-story
I don't really think much or care if the rest of the world pointing fingers at the US.
China's coal fires consume 20 million tons of coal annually. How much Co2 is that? That is strait up unfiltered unrefined coal just burning. All these other countries are smaller then Texas so of course they have less Pollution. Thats just commons sense. They do not pay anything so their opinion is worthless.

[tyrant-201]

Are we gonna let a country like china or europe just boss us around and tell us what to do. If china can burn coal why can't we do it. People keep talking about the energy of the future and global warming, whatever. How about NOW? Our people are suffering and we need results.

[hello]

Are we gonna let a country like china or europe just boss us around and tell us what to do. If china can burn coal why can't we do it. People keep talking about the energy of the future and global warming, whatever. How about NOW? Our people are suffering and we need results.

You serious? I explained why.

[Parkbandit]

You serious? I explained why.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?109586-Paris-Accord&p=1951816#post1951816

Seriously though, his sarcasm, much like most of his posts, are 3rd grade level at best.

[time4fun]

You serious? I explained why.

He's being sarcastic.

Also, the GOP is voting on a bill to repeal significant parts of Dodd-Frank next week.

If you think they're going to pass Glass-Steagall, I've got bad news for you. Democrats are the party of financial regulations. Republicans are the party of deregulation.

You were sold snake oil by a serpent on this one, I'm afraid.

[Godsanvil]

I don't care what party your in. Someone needs to do something about 20 million tons of coal just burning unfiltered every year. That is probably worse the the whole worlds pollution combined.

Yeah sarcasm the lowest form of wit. What you do when you have no real response.

[hello]

He's being sarcastic.

Also, the GOP is voting on a bill to repeal significant parts of Dodd-Frank next week.

If you think they're going to pass Glass-Steagall, I've got bad news for you. Democrats are the party of financial regulations. Republicans are the party of deregulation.

You were sold snake oil by a serpent on this one, I'm afraid.

I still believe in Trump at his core. I'm explaining most of his 'shenanigans' as being new to the game (including Paris; which I still believe is a ploy by him to make great changes.) People think Trump is stupid; I'm sorry, you don't make a billion dollars by being remotely stupid, maybe not a genius but definitely not stupid.

+Paris pullout was a strategy (he's actually well aware on the climate as with his daughter).

+Russian thing is concoted by him beginning to end in order to get the Russians back on the defensive on Ukraine.

+He works extremely hard (covfefe should explain how much he works;sleep deprivation)

+He personally lost a bundle on Real Estate in the 08' crisis and wants revenge against Wall Street; hiring Goldman sachs alums is a ploy to throw Wall Street off guard(he's really with us? um, right guys?)

+He genuinely cares about the well-being of America. I have no doubt about this.

[Latrinsorm]

I don't care what party your in. Someone needs to do something about 20 million tons of coal just burning unfiltered every year. That is probably worse the the whole worlds pollution combined.It's not.

[tyrant-201]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?109586-Paris-Accord&p=1951816#post1951816

Seriously though, his sarcasm, much like most of his posts, are 3rd grade level at best.

You wound me.

[Parkbandit]

You wound me.

Hey now.. you did catch 2 retards in your retard traps.

[Archigeek]

I thought everyone knew that the pull out method doesn't work.

[tyrant-201]

Hey now.. you did catch 2 retards in your retard traps.

I'd have caught more if you didn't call me out.

[time4fun]

I'd have caught more if you didn't call me out.

Wait until PB figures out whom you were parodying.

[Tgo01]

Wait until PB figures out whom you were parodying.

I think literally everyone understood the reference the second they originally read it. Well, except you that is. You needed someone to tell you it was a joke/sarcasm before you were "in on it" the whole time.

[Parkbandit]

Wait until PB figures out whom you were parodying.

Spoiler: You were one of the retards he caught... you know, in case it went over your head again....

[ClydeR]

This morning on CBS, John Dickerson asked UN Ambassador Nikki Haley about climate change in Africa and Fiji. Haley correctly said that Africa and Fiji can implement the Paris agreement if they think it is in their best interest, and the Unites States should do what is in our best interest. When everybody takes personal responsibility, if Fiji sinks into the sea, it will be Fijians' fault, and if Africa has famine, it will be Africans' fault.


DICKERSON: Angela Merkel, apparently in her conversation with the president about this said, if the United States pulled out of the agreement, what would the -- what would the moral message be to countries like Africa, where this -- where climate change affects drought and famine and war, and then also countries like Fiji, where the rising sea levels affect it. What's the answer to Chancellor Merkel?

HALEY: The answer is that they should continue doing what's in the best interest. And if the Paris agreement was something that works for them, that they can achieve, they should do that.

You know, there's a reason that President Obama didn't go through the Senate to get this cleared, because he couldn't. It was -- the regulations were unattainable. I mean you could not actually have a business run under the regulations that we had. And so we're not saying forget about the environment. We know that there are issues with the environment. We know that we have to be conscious of it. But we can't sit there and have Angela Merkel telling us to worry about Africa. She should continue doing her part. We're going to continue doing our part. We're going to continue encouraging other countries to do what they think is in the best interests of them. But, you know, American sovereignty matters.

More... (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-june-4-2017-transcript-warner-collins-haley-stoltenberg/)