Rachel Maddow Has Trump's Tax Returns

[time4fun]

And is apparently showing them tonight on her show. 6pm Pacific. MSNBC.

Looks like it's from 2005.

[Gelston]

Sweet, she should be arrested for committing a felony.

[time4fun]

Sweet, she should be arrested for committing a felony.

I think you need to go back to looking up the law.

The whole free press thing gives journalists rights.

[Tgo01]

People still give a flying fuck about this whole tax thing? Holy shit you people are sad.

Personally I can't wait, after months of hearing people think the tax returns will prove he's a Russian spy, or will somehow show he committed an impeachable crime, or show he paid nothing in taxes, when it turns out none of that is true they'll latch onto the stupidest of shit and try to make it sound like the political scandal of the century.

Trump only paid 20% in taxes! There are some secretaries that pay 21%!!!

Trump only donated .1% to charity! Obama gave 10%! IMPEACH!

[Gelston]

I think you need to go back to looking up the law.

The whole free press thing gives journalists rights.

Hmm... Ask Wikileaks about that whole putting out classified material thing. That guy ever comes to the US he is going to jail. It does not give the press unlimited power to post up classified material. Your tax return is confidential. For it to be released by anyone other than Trump is a felony.

And I can't believe you're so happy about this. Some asshole at the IRS, who handles all our stuff, is seriously lacking in integrity. I hope they find this person and imprison them too. This shit is a breach of public trust. But no, it is cool because it is Trump.

[Tgo01]

I think you need to go back to looking up the law.

The whole free press thing gives journalists rights.

:rofl:

You sound like that fucktard on CNN who said it was illegal for us mere peasants to read the Wikileaks releases and instead we had to get our information directly from "journalists" such as himself because it's not illegal for the press.

I honestly thought nothing could top your bullshit post that we should take a nationwide popular vote and divvy up house and senate seats that way, but here you go surprising me yet again.

[drauz]

I think you need to go back to looking up the law.

The whole free press thing gives journalists rights.

Maybe you should look up the law... it doesn't give them free rein to publish anything they want.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7213


(3) Other persons
It shall be unlawful for any person to whom any return or return information (as defined in section 6103(b)) is disclosed in a manner unauthorized by this title thereafter willfully to print or publish in any manner not provided by law any such return or return information. Any violation of this paragraph shall be a felony punishable by a fine in any amount not exceeding $5,000, or imprisonment of not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution.

I do hope they find the leak, as Gelston said this is a breach of the public trust. This isn't someone telling us that the government is spying on us or anything like that. This is someone who released a former private citizen's tax returns to a journalist.

[time4fun]

Maybe you should look up the law... it doesn't give them free rein to publish anything they want.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7213

You...missed the whole "press" piece.

Go look up Near v Minnesota

The government is virtually never allowed to punish the media for reporting on and releasing information in their possession. It's called the "Free Press" for a reason.

[Gelston]

You...missed the whole "press" piece.

Go look up Near v Minnesota

The government is virtually never allowed to punish the media for reporting on and releasing information in their possession. It's called the "Free Press" for a reason.

Go look up US v Manning where it prevented the NYT from publishing classified material, which was a lot more recently than your 1931 example.

Perhaps you should go reread your example, has nothing to do with the subject matter. We are talking about CLASSIFIED documents, not rulings on libel. Hell, even on that one the court ruled that censorship is constitutional in rare cases. Seriously, read the crap you post and think "Is this relevant?"

[Parkbandit]

Well, at least this will put to rest the "OMG WHEN IS HE GOING TO RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS!?!?!?!??! WE CAN'T GO ON WITHOUT KNOWING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" bullshit the left is wallowing in.

[Tgo01]

You...missed the whole "press" piece.

Go look up Near v Minnesota

The government is virtually never allowed to punish the media for reporting on and releasing information in their possession. It's called the "Free Press" for a reason.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

[RichardCranium]

Go look up US v Manning where it prevented the NYT from publishing classified material, which was a lot more recently than your 1931 example.

Perhaps you should go reread your example, has nothing to do with the subject matter. We are talking about CLASSIFIED documents, not rulings on libel. Hell, even on that one the court ruled that censorship is constitutional in rare cases. Seriously, read the crap you post and think "Is this relevant?"

I mean, arguing law with an admitted felon is pretty silly.

[Gelston]

I mean, arguing law with an admitted felon is pretty silly.

Did you know she has been both poorer and wealthier than everyone on the PC?

[rolfard]

Yes but when is he releasing his birth certificate? in 2024?

[Parkbandit]

You literally have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

Um, she has 10 PhDs and makes 100x more than everyone on here combined.

Plus she has an illegal brother.. so she knows everything there is to know about immigration.
Additionally, she taught logic so don't bother trying to out think her. She knows everything.
Multipliedx33 she was first poorer than anyone here.. so she knows all there is to know about poverty.
You don't know the law or how elections work like she does.

[Gelston]

The funniest thing, the case the brought up helps to actually prove there are restraints on the Freedom of the Press. She obviously only read a one sentence blurb about it.

[drauz]

You...missed the whole "press" piece.

Go look up Near v Minnesota

The government is virtually never allowed to punish the media for reporting on and releasing information in their possession. It's called the "Free Press" for a reason.

No, that just isn't true. The Washington Post even seems to be on the fence.


Q. Would a news organization that received the returns get in trouble?

A. Federal law prohibits “any person” from printing, publishing or soliciting tax-return information without the taxpayer’s authorization.

The penalties for improperly disclosing tax information were strengthened in the late 1990s, putting new restrictions, new procedures and an internal tracking system in place to address concerns about unauthorized tax-return browsing.

First Amendment experts note that while the media could be prosecuted for publishing Trump’s tax returns, a news organization could also assert a First Amendment defense. In the case of the Pentagon Papers, for example, The Post argued that publication served an important public interest.

But those arguments would not be sure winners, experts said. And members of the media would need to consider risks to their sources in any investigation of who shared Trump’s tax information.

“The courts could say, if the public thinks the tax returns are so important, let it demand that the candidate authorize the IRS to release them on pain of losing votes,” said Jonathan Zittrain, a privacy expert and professor at Harvard Law School.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/09/21/this-is-why-donald-trumps-tax-returns-havent-been-leaked/?utm_term=.befd2aaee95b

[Parkbandit]

God, I'm trying to watch Maddow.. she's painfully unwatchable.

I'm not sure if she's going to start crying.. start screaming.. or just keep blabbering like a brainless dipshit.

[time4fun]

Go look up US v Manning where it prevented the NYT from publishing classified material, which was a lot more recently than your 1931 example.

Perhaps you should go reread your example, has nothing to do with the subject matter. We are talking about CLASSIFIED documents, not rulings on libel. Hell, even on that one the court ruled that censorship is constitutional in rare cases. Seriously, read the crap you post and think "Is this relevant?"

Citation of the legal reasoning please.

US v Manning was a Military Court, btw.

[Back]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/salvadorhernandez/the-white-house-just-released-some-details-on-trumps-tax-ret?utm_term=.veMyRNn7XZ#.gdn2egN0j4


The White House released some limited details on President Donald Trump’s tax returns Tuesday night, just minutes before MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow was set to release details on Trump’s 2005 tax returns.Trump paid $38 million in taxes on an income of $150 million, according to a White House statement.

The statement also criticized the MSNBC host for the report, calling it “desperate for ratings” and pointing out the returns were from “over a decade ago.”
The statement seemed to defend the amount of taxes paid by Trump in 2005.

“Before being elected President, Mr. Trump was one of the most successful businessmen in the world with a responsibility to his company, his family and his employees to pay no more tax than legally required,” the statement read.

[Gelston]

Citation of the legal reasoning please.

US v Manning was a Military Court, btw.

Which falls under... Gasp... The US Government. It is still a court. The decisions can still be appealed.

A "legal" reasoning? Take it directly from the Supreme Court's mouth...

"The objection has also been made that the principle as to immunity from previous restraint is stated too broadly, if every such restraint is deemed to be prohibited. That is undoubtedly true; the protection even as to previous restraint is not absolutely unlimited."

[Gelston]

BTW, here is a bunch of Journalist who have been jailed for job related things.

http://www.rcfp.org/jailed-journalists

[drauz]

Citation of the legal reasoning please.

US v Manning was a Military Court, btw.

Besides the law I gave you? Did it say "any persons except reporters"? No, it said it is illegal to disclose anyones tax returns without their consent. There is your legal reasoning.

[Tgo01]

US v Manning was a Military Court, btw.

So? Military courts aren't sham courts or anything that charge people with crimes for the hell of it.

Just about everything someone can be tried for in military court they can also be tried for in civilian court. Obvious exceptions would be shit that only pertains to people in the military; such as desertion and not obeying orders. If you think leaking classified information only pertains to the military...I mean wow.

[Tisket]

I'm fairly confident MSNBC has had an entire battery of attorneys advising them on the legalities of releasing the returns. Maybe they just weighed whatever the consequences are or might be against the gains they will make in breaking them first.

[Gelston]

I'm fairly confident MSNBC has had an entire battery of attorneys advising them on the legalities of releasing the returns. Maybe they just weighed whatever the consequences are or might be against the gains they will make in breaking them first.

Or maybe they are arrogant beyond retardation. She'd only face up to 5 years in jail, they probably would be more interested in her source though, so she'd get a grand total of probably a week or two in jail for contempt. At the end of it, she got a lot of views and now she looks like an old warhorse journalist for the minuscule jail time.

[drauz]

I'm fairly confident MSNBC has had an entire battery of attorneys advising them on the legalities of releasing the returns. Maybe they just weighed whatever the consequences are or might be against the gains they will make in breaking them first.

I would wager that they didn't think it would have any legal ramifications to them but could to a reporter. The reporter said "damn the consequences" and so they are reporting it.

I doubt Trump is going to have her prosecuted. It would just make her a martyr. Though Trump doesn't always seem to do the most common sense things.

[Gelston]

I would wager that they didn't think it would have any legal ramifications to them but could to a reporter. The reporter said "damn the consequences" and so they are reporting it.

I doubt Trump is going to have her prosecuted. It would just make her a martyr. Though Trump doesn't always seem to do the most common sense things.

I don't think they'd really be going for her, just her source. If someone from the IRS is giving away personal information like that, they need to be locked up.

[Tisket]

Could the person who supplied it be an ex wife? That would be a legitimately legal source, no? Assuming it's also her return.

[Tisket]

I'm working, has it aired yet?

[drauz]

I'm working, has it aired yet?

9pm eastern I believe, so yes.

[Gelston]

Could the person who supplied it be an ex wife? That would be a legitimately legal source, no? Assuming it's also her return.

He has been with Melania since 2005, he divorced the prior in 99. I don't see why the previous'd have them, since there is no way they've been filing jointly up until that wedding.

[Tisket]

I'm more interested in what my neighbors make than what Trump makes. Where are their returns?!

[Gelston]

I'm more interested in what my neighbors make than what Trump makes. Where are their returns?!

There is someone in the IRS that is giving that shit away, see if you can find them!

[Gelston]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm4_QGJGjPI

[Richaard]

People still give a flying fuck about this whole tax thing? Holy shit you people are sad.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Tgo01 again.

[Pin]

Well, if nothing else, we know why Trump hates the alternative minimum tax so much.

[time4fun]

Well, if nothing else, we know why Trump hates the alternative minimum tax so much.

I think this was all a way for her to keep the taxes story in the narrative. She needs the tax returns to help connect (or not) the dots that she's laid out on the Russian influence issue.

[Tgo01]

I think this was all a way for her to keep the taxes story in the narrative. She needs the tax returns to help connect (or not) the dots that she's laid out on the Russian influence issue.


People still give a flying fuck about this whole tax thing? Holy shit you people are sad.

Personally I can't wait, after months of hearing people think the tax returns will prove he's a Russian spy, or will somehow show he committed an impeachable crime, or show he paid nothing in taxes, when it turns out none of that is true they'll latch onto the stupidest of shit and try to make it sound like the political scandal of the century.

Trump only paid 20% in taxes! There are some secretaries that pay 21%!!!

Trump only donated .1% to charity! Obama gave 10%! IMPEACH!

Do I know libtards or what?

[drauz]

Well that was anti-climactic. Basically all speculation. About the only facts she gave out was how much he earned, how much he paid, and how much he wrote off.

Then the guys starts about how it could have been Trump that gave it to him.

[Donquix]

Do I know libtards or what?

You sure called her making a logical conclusion based on facts. Yes. GOT EM.

[Tgo01]

You sure called her making a logical conclusion based on facts. Yes. GOT EM.

Trump is a Russian operative and his tax returns prove it!!!

[Donquix]

Well that was anti-climactic. Basically all speculation. About the only facts she gave out was how much he earned, how much he paid, and how much he wrote off.

Then the guys starts about how it could have been Trump that gave it to him.

Which honestly makes the most sense, it was the first thing I thought when I saw it was from fucking '05. It's a decade old summary sheet, making it a complete non-issue in that it's likely well before any potential (meaningful) improprieties in terms of his political career, and not being the full return makes it completely useless no matter what year it was from.

Non-story that they gave the Lebron Decision treatment to.

[Donquix]

Trump is a Russian operative and his tax returns prove it!!!

Maybe if you sarcastically yell it enough, it will stop being true :D

[Tgo01]

Maybe if you sarcastically yell it enough, it will stop being true :D

This is like the left's birther movement at this point. Only difference is the birthers were always a fringe group of conservatives, while this Russian spy thing seems to be pretty mainstream with the left.

[Kembal]

Which honestly makes the most sense, it was the first thing I thought when I saw it was from fucking '05. It's a decade old summary sheet, making it a complete non-issue in that it's likely well before any potential (meaningful) improprieties in terms of his political career, and not being the full return makes it completely useless no matter what year it was from.

Non-story that they gave the Lebron Decision treatment to.

Almost certain he leaked it himself. It's stamped with client copy. And yes, only being the summary sheet, it means very little.

[Gelston]

Sorry, I was busy killing NarcoTerrorists of the Santa Blanca Cartel in Bolivia.... So this was basically just a big waste of time? I heard she put it off until like the very, very end of the show too.

[drauz]

Almost certain he leaked it himself. It's stamped with client copy. And yes, only being the summary sheet, it means very little.

I'd be surprised if he sees his tax returns other than to sign them. I would think a safer bet would be someone at an accounting firm, or whoever does his taxes.

[Tgo01]

Sorry, I was busy killing NarcoTerrorists of the Santa Blanca Cartel in Bolivia.... So this was basically just a big waste of time? I heard she put it off until like the very, very end of the show too.

Her show got a small bump from all of her Trump hysteria so she's milking the shit out of it. If time4fun is representative of her typical viewer then I don't expect they will call out her shit when they see it, instead they'll think she's some sort of hero because reasons.

[Tgo01]

Her show got a small bump from all of her Trump hysteria so she's milking the shit out of it. If time4fun is representative of her typical viewer then I don't expect they will call out her shit when they see it, instead they'll think she's some sort of hero because reasons.

Yes, I used hero instead of heroine. Patriarchy, bitches.

[Gelston]

Yes, I used hero instead of heroine. Patriarchy, bitches.

But was she Heroinic

[Fortybox]

Go look up US v Manning where it prevented the NYT from publishing classified material, which was a lot more recently than your 1931 example.

Perhaps you should go reread your example, has nothing to do with the subject matter. We are talking about CLASSIFIED documents, not rulings on libel. Hell, even on that one the court ruled that censorship is constitutional in rare cases. Seriously, read the crap you post and think "Is this relevant?"

That would require her to read and process a thought rather than Googling garbage. Don't forget, she has a degree in everything.

[Candor]

(CNN) David Clay Johnston, the journalist who broke the Trump tax return story, says he believes President Donald Trump is the one who sent him the pages anonymously.

[drauz]

(CNN) David Clay Johnston, the journalist who broke the Trump tax return story, says he believes President Donald Trump is the one who sent him the pages anonymously.

Well the return address was 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

[Tgo01]

So this stunt by Rachel Maddow showed that Trump pays federal taxes and pays a higher percent of his income in taxes than both Obama and Sanders. Well at least this one year anyways.

Also no connections to Russia. No information that would lead to Trump being impeached.

Honestly Maddow and MSNBC must be hoping their viewers are so brain dead at this point that just mentioning Trump's taxes brings in more loyal viewers and doesn't turn any away, because if anything this just made Trump look good compared to what his detractors have been saying.

[Parkbandit]

So, this "Breaking News" and huge "scoop" that Maddow got.. was the 2005 2 page 1040? The same 2005 2 page 1040 that was already gone over last year by the Wall Street Journal?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-got-a-big-break-on-2005-taxes-1458249902

That was so painful to watch last night... she's really, really bad.

How the fuck does she have her own show?

[Parkbandit]

(CNN) David Clay Johnston, the journalist who broke the Trump tax return story, says he believes President Donald Trump is the one who sent him the pages anonymously.

Given how Maddow made President Trump look good.. I wouldn't doubt it. If he did, he played Maddow like the hack she is.

[time4fun]

(CNN) David Clay Johnston, the journalist who broke the Trump tax return story, says he believes President Donald Trump is the one who sent him the pages anonymously.

On Maddow he said it was possible. Does anyone have the clip of him saying he was pretty certain?

If Trump leaked it, that'd be a bit of a political miscalculation. For one, they showed a 25% tax rate and a $100m business loss. Secondly, they get everyone thinking about his taxes again- which isn't good. And finally, it makes it really hard for the GOP to try to repeal AMT given how much he would benefit from it.

[Parkbandit]

On Maddow he said it was possible. Does anyone have the clip of him saying he was pretty certain?

If Trump leaked it, that'd be a bit of a political miscalculation. For one, they showed a 25% tax rate and a $100m business loss. Secondly, they get everyone thinking about his taxes again- which isn't good. And finally, it makes it really hard for the GOP to try to repeal AMT given how much he would benefit from it.

LOL.

I'm surprised you didn't say the $100m business write off was an impeachable offense.

You're fucking hilarious.

Thank you for your keen insight in this matter.

[Parkbandit]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/03/15/rachel_maddow_s_trump_taxes_scoop_was_a_cynical_se lf_defeating_spectacle.html

Even the leftest lefties think it was an abortion last night.

Poor Maddow.......

[Methais]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C67iOufWcAIWPyS.jpg:large

[ClydeR]

He has been with Melania since 2005, he divorced the prior in 99. I don't see why the previous'd have them, since there is no way they've been filing jointly up until that wedding.

Did you notice that her name was misspelled on the return?

[ClydeR]

Here's a direct link to an image of the tax returns..
http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/trump2005tax.pdf

His Social Security Number is blacked out. Did they redact it in a secure way?

[Neveragain]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C67iOufWcAIWPyS.jpg:large

BHO 2014 tax rate: 19.6%

I only think it's fair that time4fun show us her tax returns being that she makes more than any of us. She should also post a picture of her car/s, her home, her bank account balance, her home furnishings, her insurance costs, her private donations and any vacations she has taken.

[Parkbandit]

BHO 2014 tax rate: 19.6%

I only think it's fair that time4fun show us her tax returns being that she makes more than any of us. She should also post a picture of her car/s, her home, her bank account balance, her home furnishings, her insurance costs, her private donations and any vacations she has taken.

What about her illegal alien brother, she keeps locked up in her basement?

Or the dirt shack she used to live in.. because she knows poverty better than anyone here?

[Shaps]

Someone should release Rachel Maddow's tax returns.

I also love how they release Trump's returns.. and his taxes paid by % are higher than any political person spouting bullshit against him. Beautiful.

[Gelston]

Someone should release Rachel Maddow's tax returns.

I also love how they release Trump's returns.. and his taxes paid by % are higher than any political person spouting bullshit against him. Beautiful.

I'm actually surprised she went ahead with that after seeing them.

[Neveragain]

What about her illegal alien brother, she keeps locked up in her basement?

I'm guessing it's one of those tin sheds us trailer park dwellers use, I don't think they have basements in the bay area...just a wild guess. Probably stolen milk crate furnishings and a straw mattress, field workers deserve living space too.


Or the dirt shack she used to live in.. because she knows poverty better than anyone here?

That's not poor enough, that's the standard home in socialist societies. (if you're lucky enough to own a dirt shack)

[Gelston]

I'm curious how much of what she said is true and how much is just trying to story top or gain sympathy. I imagine she is just some random white woman who was born middle class and is upper middle class now and she likes to invent stories on an internet forum to try to put across a narrative about a world she wishes existed. She seems to only come up with the really stupid things, like the illegal brother, making more than everyone, having been poorer than everyone, when she is being stressed/attacked.

[Neveragain]

I'm curious how much of what she said is true and how much is just trying to story top or gain sympathy. I imagine she is just some random white woman who was born middle class and is upper middle class now and she likes to invent stories on an internet forum to try to put across a narrative about a world she wishes existed. She seems to only come up with the really stupid things, like the illegal brother, making more than everyone, having been poorer than everyone, when she is being stressed/attacked.

I have a mental image, for sure dyed hair.

[Tgo01]

If Trump leaked it, that'd be a bit of a political miscalculation.

Of course!


For one, they showed a 25% tax rate and a $100m business loss.

I...so?


Secondly, they get everyone thinking about his taxes again- which isn't good.

Like the left has ever stopped talking about his taxes? Are you for serious?


And finally, it makes it really hard for the GOP to try to repeal AMT given how much he would benefit from it.

Oh no! Trump might have benefited from this 12 years ago! Surely that means we can't look into fixing our mess of a tax code!

Even my hard core leftist family members on Facebook are groaning about what a stupid move this was by Maddow. It's time to put down the kool-aid, time4fun.

[Neveragain]

Someone should release Rachel Maddow's tax returns.

I also love how they release Trump's returns.. and his taxes paid by % are higher than any political person spouting bullshit against him. Beautiful.

Dude, he's the Troll King God Emperor.

[Fortybox]

What about her illegal alien brother, she keeps locked up in her basement?

Or the dirt shack she used to live in.. because she knows poverty better than anyone here?

She is also on the wait list for a Tesla...but owning 2 Teslas means your evil!!!

[Fortybox]

I'm curious how much of what she said is true and how much is just trying to story top or gain sympathy. I imagine she is just some random white woman who was born middle class and is upper middle class now and she likes to invent stories on an internet forum to try to put across a narrative about a world she wishes existed. She seems to only come up with the really stupid things, like the illegal brother, making more than everyone, having been poorer than everyone, when she is being stressed/attacked.

Either she is trolling or she really is this retarded. Perhaps both? Retarded trolls are the worse.

[Izalude]

After reading this thread, I think I'm dumber now as a person. There's people on both ends of the political spectrum with their head's so far up their asses that, I fear for the future of my country. But yeah, go ahead. Keep bickering amongst yourselves about Obama being a war criminal, Clinton winning the election, Trump is the savior of the nation, and his tax returns actually mean something. You're being distracted.

[Parkbandit]

Someone should release Rachel Maddow's tax returns.

I also love how they release Trump's returns.. and his taxes paid by % are higher than any political person spouting bullshit against him. Beautiful.

I'm guessing that this is maybe the one tax return he could "leak" out that makes him look fair in the eyes of the retarded liberals.

I'm not saying for sure President Trump leaked this out.. I'm just saying there is only a 99.99443% chance he was using Maddow for the useless tool she is.

[Parkbandit]

I'm curious how much of what she said is true and how much is just trying to story top or gain sympathy. I imagine she is just some random white woman who was born middle class and is upper middle class now and she likes to invent stories on an internet forum to try to put across a narrative about a world she wishes existed. She seems to only come up with the really stupid things, like the illegal brother, making more than everyone, having been poorer than everyone, when she is being stressed/attacked.

"You don't know about illegal immigration like I do!"
"You don't know wealth like I do!"
"You don't know logic like I do!"
"You don't know poverty like I do!"

I'm waiting for her to tell us she's a black, transvestite lesbian with a birth defect and an incurable disease and she would have a Yatzee.

[Parkbandit]

After reading this thread, I think I'm dumber now as a person. There's people on both ends of the political spectrum with their head's so far up their asses that, I fear for the future of my country. But yeah, go ahead. Keep bickering amongst yourselves about Obama being a war criminal, Clinton winning the election, Trump is the savior of the nation, and his tax returns actually mean something. You're being distracted.

From the Russians?

[Izalude]

From the Russians?

No.

[Parkbandit]

No.

NORTHKOREANS!?!?

[time4fun]

She is also on the wait list for a Tesla...but owning 2 Teslas means your evil!!!

You're.

[time4fun]

I'm curious how much of what she said is true and how much is just trying to story top or gain sympathy. I imagine she is just some random white woman who was born middle class and is upper middle class now and she likes to invent stories on an internet forum to try to put across a narrative about a world she wishes existed. She seems to only come up with the really stupid things, like the illegal brother, making more than everyone, having been poorer than everyone, when she is being stressed/attacked.

LOL

Don't get out much do you?

[Tgo01]

You're.

Careful, chances are good time4fun used to teach English in college.

[Taernath]

You're.

That's not a complete sentence.

[Gelston]

LOL

Don't get out much do you?

What an amazing response.

[time4fun]

That's not a complete sentence.

You're not a complete sentence.

[time4fun]

What an amazing response.

What's amazing is that the notion of biracial families with mixed citizenship status is so exotic to you that it beggars belief.

Let me amend- you really need to get out more.

[Gelston]

I think the Rachel Maddow thing finally broke time4fun and she has reset to factory settings.

And maybe not...


What's amazing is that the notion of biracial families with mixed citizenship status is so exotic to you that it beggars belief.

Let me amend- you really need to get out more.

I don't know, between all my volunteer work, my cook outs, and my various other activities, I don't think there would be enough time left.

[Tgo01]

What's amazing is that the notion of biracial families with mixed citizenship status is so exotic to you that it beggars belief.

What's amazing is that your takeaway from his comment is he just can't imagine a biracial family existing, instead of his obvious point that your stories are often so fanciful that people are starting to question everything you say.

[Gelston]

I don't find it beyond belief, I live in Louisiana. We have tons of it here. I jsut don't believe time4fun, especially due to the timing of when she brought it up.

[Tgo01]

I don't find it beyond belief, I live in Louisiana. We have tons of it here. I jsut don't believe time4fun, especially due to the timing of when she brought it up.

That's what I said :(

[Taernath]

You're not a complete sentence.

What's this people are saying about you living in poverty? I was going to ask the others but since you're here and posting I figured I might as well ask directly.

[Gelston]

What's this people are saying about you living in poverty? I was going to ask the others but since you're here and posting I figured I might as well ask directly.

She said in some other thread that she grew up poorer than anyone else on here or some bullshit. Anything you've done, she has done more.

[Wrathbringer]

Careful, chances are good time4fun used to teach English in college.

Lol nice

[Parkbandit]

What's amazing is that the notion of biracial families with mixed citizenship status is so exotic to you that it beggars belief.

Let me amend- you really need to get out more.

FUCK!

How did I forget this! She knows everything there is to know about racism because even though she's white, she has a black brother who happens to also be an illegal alien.

Poor / Rich
Logic
Racism
Illegal Immigration

She's just ONE away from a full blown Yatzee!!

Come on time4fun... help us out. To get the full Yatzee credit, you must create a storyline for one of the following:

1) Abortion: You can't say you had one.. those are a dime a dozen. You can't claim you were almost aborted, because that would fuck up your current storyline. Maybe you saved a Hispanic lady once by performing an abortion on her because her life was in grave peril.. something along those lines. Maybe it happened in the back of an alley and you can weave that into Trump will make abortions illegal again and that is where women will have to get them done.

2) Medical: You could really use some gravitas on this subject so you can show us you know more about healthcare than everyone else combined. Perhaps you actually have an MD, but went on to get more PhDs and decided that you needed to do something other than medicine to save the planet. Be careful here though, don't over play your hand too far.. you run the risk of alienating some people who would view you as too good to help others with your amazing medical knowledge.

3) Taxation: You could sort of do the same thing as the Medical part.. and no one cares if you stayed in accounting so you don't have any negative to this storyline. Might be the safer bet than Medical, but the rewards would be far less.

4) Government: You need something big here, given your debacle about the last election and not realizing that Presidents are elected via Electorial College and not popular vote. Maybe a "Women of Industry" government panel.. maybe you worked as an intern for a female governor somewhere.

[Parkbandit]

What's this people are saying about you living in poverty? I was going to ask the others but since you're here and posting I figured I might as well ask directly.

You have no idea what it's like to be poor unless you grew up poor. Don't bother even attempting to discuss the subject.

She can, because she was 100x poorer than everyone here combined.

[Tgo01]

4) Government: You need something big here, given your debacle about the last election and not realizing that Presidents are elected via Electorial College and not popular vote. Maybe a "Women of Industry" government panel.. maybe you worked as an intern for a female governor somewhere.

I'm almost positive she has said something similar before, like she was invited to speak about race or sexism or something. Shit, I really want to find this post now.

[Gelston]

You have no idea what it's like to be poor unless you grew up poor. Don't bother even attempting to discuss the subject.

She can, because she was 100x poorer than everyone here combined.

Those starving kids in Africa on those commercials? Yeah, they used to gather up supplies for her because they felt so bad for her poverty.

[Parkbandit]

I'm almost positive she has said something similar before, like she was invited to speak about race or sexism or something. Shit, I really want to find this post now.

We would accept the following topics:

"Undocumented Americans, Racism and Me."

"Rich Lady, Poor Lady"

"I Transitioned From a Man and Now I Make 13% Less!"

"Transitioning: I Lost My Penis But Gained A New Perspective"

"Abortion: We Need More Republicans On Board Because We Can't Keep Killing The Coloreds."

[Tgo01]

I'm almost positive she has said something similar before, like she was invited to speak about race or sexism or something. Shit, I really want to find this post now.

Found the post I was thinking of.


ROFL- "It's strange that someone would talk about something they actually know about". God that just sums you up so well.

It IS strange that someone who grew up in a biracial family where half of the family were first generation immigrants (two of whom were undocumented) would grow up to have an interest in civil rights, isn't it?

And it's shocking that someone who's active in the politics folder, who actively follows matters of public policy and- in particular- civil rights, and who has an above average interest in the law spent two summers in DC working for human rights groups and was doing Hill drops the day of 9/11. I also spent a summer at the UN working on gender inclusion in the ICC at the 10th and final preparatory commission. Does that blow your mind too?

I mean, I know it's not as good a reason to be interested in the topics as being an uneducated, angry, entitled white man from one of the middle states. But hey, it works for me.

[Tgo01]

Those starving kids in Africa on those commercials? Yeah, they used to gather up supplies for her because they felt so bad for her poverty.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Gelston again.

[Parkbandit]

Found the post I was thinking of.


https://www.agrentools.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2016_12_28-survey-says.jpg



















https://media.giphy.com/media/KBs5fI5kMHrG0/giphy.gif

[Wrathbringer]

FUCK!

How did I forget this! She knows everything there is to know about racism because even though she's white, she has a black brother who happens to also be an illegal alien.

Poor / Rich
Logic
Racism
Illegal Immigration

She's just ONE away from a full blown Yatzee!!

Come on time4fun... help us out. To get the full Yatzee credit, you must create a storyline for one of the following:

1) Abortion: You can't say you had one.. those are a dime a dozen. You can't claim you were almost aborted, because that would fuck up your current storyline. Maybe you saved a Hispanic lady once by performing an abortion on her because her life was in grave peril.. something along those lines. Maybe it happened in the back of an alley and you can weave that into Trump will make abortions illegal again and that is where women will have to get them done.

2) Medical: You could really use some gravitas on this subject so you can show us you know more about healthcare than everyone else combined. Perhaps you actually have an MD, but went on to get more PhDs and decided that you needed to do something other than medicine to save the planet. Be careful here though, don't over play your hand too far.. you run the risk of alienating some people who would view you as too good to help others with your amazing medical knowledge.

3) Taxation: You could sort of do the same thing as the Medical part.. and no one cares if you stayed in accounting so you don't have any negative to this storyline. Might be the safer bet than Medical, but the rewards would be far less.

4) Government: You need something big here, given your debacle about the last election and not realizing that Presidents are elected via Electorial College and not popular vote. Maybe a "Women of Industry" government panel.. maybe you worked as an intern for a female governor somewhere.

You forgot where she singlehandedly evacuated a building on 9/11 then rode in a car.

[Taernath]

You have no idea what it's like to be poor unless you grew up poor. Don't bother even attempting to discuss the subject.

She can, because she was 100x poorer than everyone here combined.

I was a feral child though. I learned English through Gemstone.

[Tgo01]

You forgot where she singlehandedly evacuated a building on 9/11 then rode in a car.

Oh yeah, how could we forget that gem?


I was literally in Washington DC working on the Hill when the plane crashed into the Pentagon Mr Mansplain.

So while you were presumably hanging out with your buddies watching HBO, I was evacuating a building and jumping into a colleague's car while we drove back to my Bethesda apartment listening to the radio reports of car bombs (turned out to be false) and trying to figure out how likely I was to die on the way back and when I had called my mother last.

So please, keep talking to me about how dangerous terrorism is and how important national security is. I'd love to learn more.

Her last two sentences also implies this experience gives her her "Terrorism Expert" badge.

[Gelston]

Oh yeah, how could we forget that gem?



Her last two sentences also implies this experience gives her her "Terrorism Expert" badge.

Yeah, I'm sure she has seen so many terrorists in her time.

She has no idea that right now I'm in Bolivia with a team of three others dismantling a NarcoTerrorist Drug Cartel. You're welcome for my service.

[Taernath]

Yeah, I'm sure she has seen so many terrorists in her time.

She has no idea that right now I'm in Bolivia with a team of three others dismantling a NarcoTerrorist Drug Cartel. You're welcome for my service.
You're doing Tom Clancy's work, son.

[Tgo01]

Since someone asked nicely in my rep comments I found the poor comment too:


I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people.

But I do know how to explain to you that **lower and middle income people are the ones who are getting screwed over here**. People like me will get another vacation because the tax breaks only apply to people making over 200k a year- for reasons that have literally nothing to do with expanding health care.

So they're going to kick a bunch of people off of the medicaid rolls (no insurance), turn the up-front ACA credits into tax deductions (which is great if you aren't poor and can afford to pay your full premiums up front), increase premiums for people with pre-existing conditions who don't have steady work and end up with lapses by 30%, and, oh yeah, it'll help with health savings accounts, which again, only apply to people who can actually save. Oh, and ending the mandate means younger, healthier people are going to pull out of the individual market- which is going to speed up its collapse and send premiums skyrocketing.

I grew up so poor we didn't always know when the next meal would be. I spent most of my life dead poor. And, unlike you, I vote for people who help the poor because I believe that tax cuts for people like me are stupid. There are people who need food, people who need medicine, people who need homes, and people who deserve quality education for their kids. Helping them is infinitely more important than giving some rich a-holes a second Tesla.

So before you jump in telling me I don't understand what it's like to be lower and middle income, you might want to not support legislation that screws those exact people over in the same post.

[Tisket]

time3fun is ridiculous. Seriously, I think it's time she creates a new handle and retires her current one. I doubt anyone takes her posts seriously anymore.

[Parkbandit]

I was a feral child though. I learned English through Gemstone.

Feral=no money.

She owed money.

No money > Owed money

Good day, sir. Good day.

[Parkbandit]

time3fun is ridiculous. Seriously, I think it's time she creates a new handle and retires her current one. I doubt anyone takes her posts seriously anymore.

If you don't take her seriously, then you are some sort of sexist, racist, poor hating white bitch.

[Methais]

I have a mental image, for sure dyed hair.

https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/fat-ugly-feminist2.jpg

And when she's out fighting fascism:
http://img.memecdn.com/this-looks-like-a-job-for-feminism_o_5797333.jpg


Careful, chances are good time4fun used to teach English in college.

I bet she also works at/manages/owns/leases a restaurant too, but on the west coast.


I don't find it beyond belief, I live in Louisiana. We have tons of it here. I jsut don't believe time4fun, especially due to the timing of when she brought it up.

One thing about those fat slob trailer park girls...black guys down here always willing to give them the lovin' that the crackers won't. Pulling out also seems like a foreign concept to both parties.


Those starving kids in Africa on those commercials? Yeah, they used to gather up supplies for her because they felt so bad for her poverty.

time4cunt grew up so poor that she ruins Sara McLachlan's day.


You forgot where she singlehandedly evacuated a building on 9/11 then rode in a car.

Just because it was an abandoned wood shed on the other side of town with a few spiders in it that she swept out with a broom before hearing about the attacks doesn't make it any less of an evacuation. Fucking bigot.


What's amazing is that the notion of biracial families with mixed citizenship status is so exotic to you that it beggars belief.

Let me amend- you really need to get out more.

Is "mixed citizen status" the new PC term for "harboring an illegal"?

I'm starting to question if time4cunt is even a real person or just an extremely dedicated troll.

[Fortybox]

If you don't take her seriously, then you are some sort of sexist, racist, poor hating white bitch.

And then she will ignore you.

[time4fun]

What's this people are saying about you living in poverty? I was going to ask the others but since you're here and posting I figured I might as well ask directly.

Um, they find it hard to believe that I grew up dirt poor. I was the first in my family to graduate from high school. So you can imagine we weren't rolling in cash. Mom raised us on less than the cost of my college tuition.

They also find it hard to believe that biracial families exist, and that undocumented immigrants can be related to people who are US-born citizens.

In short- the reason why the sad, racist, angry, conservative troll mafia of PC are the way they are is that they apparently never leave the basement or watch TV outside of Fox News.

In all seriousness though- it kind of makes sense given their world views. It's hard not to feel bad for them though. I can't imagine living in a reality where these sorts of things are alien and threatening- to the point where you feel the need to log into a text-based game and spout off crazy things about white genocide and zionism for weeks at a time (Hi Neveragain). Where multiculturalism is a "liberal conspiracy to force you to think a certain way" and not just...today's trip home on public transportation.

[Tgo01]

Tell us another story, auntie time4fun.

Tell us the one where you wrestled an alligator who was trying to eat a kitten stuck in a tree so now you're an expert on animals and therefore we can't say anything bad about PETA.

[Gelston]

Um, they find it hard to believe that I grew up dirt poor. I was the first in my family to graduate from high school. So you can imagine we weren't rolling in cash. Mom raised us on less than the cost of my college tuition.

They also find it hard to believe that biracial families exist, and that undocumented immigrants can be related to people who are US-born citizens.

In short- the reason why the sad, racist, angry, conservative troll mafia of PC are the way they are is that they apparently never leave the basement or watch TV outside of Fox News.

In all seriousness though- it kind of makes sense given their world views. It's hard not to feel bad for them though. I can't imagine living in a reality where these sorts of things are alien and threatening- to the point where you feel the need to log into a text-based game and spout off crazy things about white genocide and zionism for weeks at a time (Hi Neveragain). Where multiculturalism is a "liberal conspiracy to force you to think a certain way" and not just...today's trip home on public transportation.

No one finds any of those things hard to believe, we just feel that you are a liar. You are a story topper. Anytime anyone mentions a life experience, you one up them. Any time anyone says their view on something is one way, you one up them and say they are wrong because you had it so much harder or have so much more experience.

[time4fun]

No one finds any of those things hard to believe, we just feel that you are a liar. You are a story topper. Anytime anyone mentions a life experience, you one up them. Any time anyone says their view on something is one way, you one up them and say they are wrong because you had it so much harder or have so much more experience.

I'm sorry, I don't really know how to console you here.

Just stay angry. One day it's going to work out for you.

[Tgo01]

I'm sorry, I don't really know how to console you here.

Come on, surely at some point in your life you were a grief counselor.

Maybe in between dodging bombs and rescuing people from a building during 9/11 and working at the UN on gender inclusion?

[Gelston]

I'm sorry, I don't really know how to console you here.

Just stay angry. One day it's going to work out for you.

... I'm not angry? Calling you on your shit isn't being angry.

[Fortybox]

I'm sorry, I don't really know how to console you here.

Just stay angry. One day it's going to work out for you.

LOL...just stay angry? You're the one always angry.

I'm just going to call it...she's trolling the boards.

[Parkbandit]

I'm sorry, I don't really know how to console you here.

Tell us about your PhD in Psychiatry and how you once saved a famous person from committing suicide!

That's my favorite story.


Just stay angry. One day it's going to work out for you.

Just stay afraid and upset. One day, President Trump is going to deport your imaginary illegal black brother.

[Tgo01]

I'm just going to call it...she's trolling the boards.

The only thing is she acts EXACTLY like this on LNet too. So either she's super serious, or she is the most dedicated troll to ever grace the PC/GS to be this dedicated both on the PC and on LNet.

[Parkbandit]

LOL...just stay angry? You're the one always angry.

I'm just going to call it...she's trolling the boards.

You would think so at first, but then the more "she" posts, the more you realize she's honestly the dumbest person you "know".

[Fortybox]

You would think so at first, but then the more "she" posts, the more you realize she's honestly the dumbest person you "know".

How does she have green rep still?

[Gelston]

How does she have green rep still?

She is a trustworthy merchant. Rep means nothing though.

[Methais]

Tell us about your PhD in Psychiatry and how you once saved a famous person from committing suicide!

That's my favorite story.



Just stay afraid and upset. One day, President Trump is going to deport your imaginary illegal black brother.

Someone should be excellent and link all her stories in a single post. I'm pretty sure I missed a lot of these and that makes me sad.


She is a trustworthy merchant. Rep means nothing though.

Why is she participating in capitalism? What an evil driven by pure greed and hatred fucking racist.

[Neveragain]

Um, they find it hard to believe that I grew up dirt poor. I was the first in my family to graduate from high school. So you can imagine we weren't rolling in cash. Mom raised us on less than the cost of my college tuition.

They also find it hard to believe that biracial families exist, and that undocumented immigrants can be related to people who are US-born citizens.

In short- the reason why the sad, racist, angry, conservative troll mafia of PC are the way they are is that they apparently never leave the basement or watch TV outside of Fox News.

In all seriousness though- it kind of makes sense given their world views. It's hard not to feel bad for them though. I can't imagine living in a reality where these sorts of things are alien and threatening- to the point where you feel the need to log into a text-based game and spout off crazy things about white genocide and zionism for weeks at a time (Hi Neveragain). Where multiculturalism is a "liberal conspiracy to force you to think a certain way" and not just...today's trip home on public transportation.

Put up or shut up, what's this like the 50th time you have accused me of this? You're losing badly.

[Androidpk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_rTWxJepO8

[Neveragain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_rTWxJepO8

You know it's bad when you're a Democrat and Colbert does a skit about you.

Time4fun just needs to accept that Trump is her president and her deep seated dream of choking on my dick is never going to happen.