TrumpTowerGate

[Parkbandit]

"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!" -President Trump via Twitter

I KNEW voting for Trump would reap rewards beyond my wildest dreams.

Is it too early to start chanting "4 more years, 4 more years"?

[Neveragain]

Now it's starting to get delicious.

Benghazi was the result of YouTube video, IRS targeting conservatives, Private email servers, Destruction of cell phones, DNC undermining their own candidates, Rioting, Internal intelligence leaks, "Tell them you're Muslim", "I know better than 63 million voters",DNC sticking with Corporate donors and now Wiretapping a Presidential candidates private business.

I have stayed away from using the term Soft Coup, but now.....

[BriarFox]

Meh. Trump has produced no evidence. Until he has some, this just reads as an ill-conceived attempt to distract people from the beating he and his nominees have been taking.

[Parkbandit]

Meh. Trump has produced no evidence. Until he has some, this just reads as an ill-conceived attempt to distract people from the beating he and his nominees have been taking.

The beating? LOL.

Stop. You're being stupid again.

To be fair, I don't have a problem with a wiretap being placed on Trump given the hoopla surrounding Russia interference. I DO, however, have a problem with a sitting President who has put the full weight of his endorsement behind one candidate having the other candidate wiretapped.

[Neveragain]

Meh. Trump has produced no evidence. Until he has some, this just reads as an ill-conceived attempt to distract people from the beating he and his nominees have been taking.

Hey, for a party that likes to throw around accusations of NAZI's the Democrats have been acting a lot like the NAZI's did, just say'n.

[Axhinde]

Hey, for a party that likes to throw around accusations of NAZI's they sure do operate like the NAZI's did, just say'n.

So in your mind, the Dems want to eradicate Jewish people?

[Neveragain]

So in your mind, the Dems want to eradicate Jewish people?

When you seat a guy as your DNC vice-chairman that has been caught on video making comments with anti-Semitic undertones. DNC emails about Bernies Jewish heritage.

Of course I more or less was referring to things like wiretapping, rioting and Primary fixing. But if you want to go the rout of eradication we could talk about human weeds, Planned Parenthood and the pro-"choice" position of the Democrats.

[Axhinde]

When you seat a guy as your DNC vice-chairman that has been caught on video making comments with anti-Semitic undertones. DNC emails about Bernies Jewish heritage.

Of course I more or less was referring to things like wiretapping, rioting and Primary fixing. But if you want to go the rout of eradication we could talk about human weeds, Planned Parenthood and the pro-"choice" position of the Democrats.

Wiretapping has been used by numerous parties, especially in regards to criminal activity. While not a strictly American thing, it "seems" more prevalent here. I don't remember seeing any footage of the Nazi regime doing the rioting.

I'm not familiar with human weeds, so I won't get into a discussion about that. Planned Parenthood is much more than abortion services, which are about 3% of what they actually do. STD and cancer screening, as well as contraceptives are their main modus operandi. I do not believe individuals who believe in pro-choice also believe in eradicating an entire population.

In my opinion, making comparisons to Nazis to Republicans OR Democrats is at best a stretch. Neither have come close to going that far.

[time4fun]

Meh. Trump has produced no evidence. Until he has some, this just reads as an ill-conceived attempt to distract people from the beating he and his nominees have been taking.

Yeah...Trump is an idiot.

The only way that would have been authorized would be if there were a warrant from a Federal Judge- which would mean they found enough evidence of him colluding with Russia to convince that Judge to sign off on the warrant.

So even if Trump "wins" this ridiculous argument, he's losing badly.

[time4fun]

So in your mind, the Dems want to eradicate Jewish people?

ROFL, right?

Neveragain is pretty unhinged in the best of times, but it's adorable when people like him suddenly start caring about other people's civil rights. Apparently he hasn't looked at the people Trump surrounds himself with.

[Axhinde]

ROFL, right?

Neveragain is pretty unhinged in the best of times, but it's adorable when people like him suddenly start caring about other people's civil rights. Apparently he hasn't looked at the people Trump surrounds himself with.

I don't believe that's entirely where his intention rested with his statement, but I went there just to prove that any comparisons with American politics and the Nazi party are outrageous.

[time4fun]

I don't believe that's entirely where his intention rested with his statement, but I went there just to prove that any comparisons with American politics and the Nazi party are outrageous.

In fairness, given his propensity for logging into lnet with alts and spending hours saying racist, homophobic, misogynist, and- yes- antisemitic things (beta males, white genocide, etc), maybe we should defer to his expertise in Nazism.

Or, you know, all chip in to get him some medication refills.

[Neveragain]

ROFL, right?

Neveragain is pretty unhinged in the best of times, but it's adorable when people like him suddenly start caring about other people's civil rights. Apparently he hasn't looked at the people Trump surrounds himself with.

Unhinged and You go hand in hand. You don't even know how American elections are won.

When Israel's Prime Minister totally dismisses ant-Semitic accusation about Trump I tend to take his word over a person who aids and embeds an illegal alien.

[Axhinde]

In fairness, given his propensity for logging into lnet with alts and spending hours saying racist, homophobic, misogynist, and- yes- antisemitic things (beta males, white genocide, etc), maybe we should defer to his expertise in Nazism.

Or, you know, all chip in to get him some medication refills.

Only reference I've seen on LNet to "male types" was Dreaven, who kept saying "alpha male" as though he qualified himself as such.

[Parkbandit]

So in your mind, the Dems want to eradicate Jewish people?

Anytime ANYONE pulls the "OMG NAZI" card, you need to make fun of them for being silly, retarded and having no understanding of what the Nazi Party actually did in Germany.

[Neveragain]

In fairness, given his propensity for logging into lnet with alts and spending hours saying racist, homophobic, misogynist, and- yes- antisemitic things (beta males, white genocide, etc), maybe we should defer to his expertise in Nazism.

Or, you know, all chip in to get him some medication refills.

Except you know you are completely lying about this and have 0 evidence of me doing this.

[Axhinde]

Anytime ANYONE pulls the "OMG NAZI" card, you need to make fun of them for being silly, retarded and having no understanding of what the Nazi Party actually did in Germany.

Well, now that I have your persmission old friend...

Yes, I meant that both ways

[Parkbandit]

ROFL, right?

Neveragain is pretty unhinged in the best of times, but it's adorable when people like him suddenly start caring about other people's civil rights. Apparently he hasn't looked at the people Trump surrounds himself with.

Did he surround himself with Nazis?

The fact you don't see how much of a hypocritical, retarded, mouth breathing waste of human flesh you are, is astounding.

[Parkbandit]

Well, now that I have your persmission old friend...

Yes, I meant that both ways

I know you did.. I wasn't giving you permission anymore than you gave me permission in WOW to use my dwarven skills to find loot in dungeons.

We're cool.

[Archigeek]

His tweets are hilarious. Nothing but self-centered fantasy.

[ClydeR]

Here is the actual text of the early morning Tweet Storm. Schwarzenegger got mentioned too.



http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/rmi08a/Trump_TweetStorm_03042017_zps2qsl4yye.png

[time4fun]

Here is the actual text of the early morning Tweet Storm. Schwarzenegger got mentioned too.



http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/rmi08a/Trump_TweetStorm_03042017_zps2qsl4yye.png

yeah, speaking of medication...

[time4fun]

His tweets are hilarious. Nothing but self-centered fantasy.

Strategy honestly.

As Briar pointed out- he's trying to get the story on something other than Russia. He'll say literally anything to shift the news cycle- he's done this so many times before.

[Axhinde]

I know you did.. I wasn't giving you permission anymore than you gave me permission in WOW to use my dwarven skills to find loot in dungeons.

We're cool.

:lol:

Pulling a Falgrin...

[Parkbandit]

yeah, speaking of medication...

Irony.

[Parkbandit]

:lol:

Pulling a Falgrin...

They call it "Pulling a Collector" in ARK now...

Fuckers. ALL OF YOU ARE AGAINST ME!

[Axhinde]

They call it "Pulling a Collector" in ARK now...

Fuckers. ALL OF YOU ARE AGAINST ME!

YOU brought it up!

[Parkbandit]

YOU brought it up!

OK!

Let's get back to how much winning the Trump Presidency is.

Politically speaking, I've never been more entertained.

[Shaps]

Strategy honestly.

As Briar pointed out- he's trying to get the story on something other than Russia. He'll say literally anything to shift the news cycle- he's done this so many times before.

I don't know if his phones were tapped or what, but if they were that's some messed up stuff IMO. As for getting a judge to sign off on it.. cmon.. you know asking a judge to do a favor for the Prez isn't a hard thing to do.

The whole Russian thing I'm still waiting to see how it shakes out. I think the Russians were just trying to fuck with our whole system, not for a specific candidate.. and that pisses me off and I think both sides should work together to ensure our security systems are better implemented. The Ambassador thing I think is more of a red herring, the cyber stuff is the real issue IMO.

As for his tweets.. I think it's just him fighting back. Look at how much coverage it gets and people see it. If someone accuses you of something and you fight back.. I don't think that's him "shifting the news cycle".. it's him giving his side. Now granted I think he tweets wayyyyy to much.. he won.. and there is strength in silence sometimes instead of the continuous chatter.

Have to agree though.. this shit is fun to watch. Don't think there has ever been a crazier first 60 days of a presidency ever lol.

[Parkbandit]

I don't know if his phones were tapped or what, but if they were that's some messed up stuff IMO. As for getting a judge to sign off on it.. cmon.. you know asking a judge to do a favor for the Prez isn't a hard thing to do.

The whole Russian thing I'm still waiting to see how it shakes out. I think the Russians were just trying to fuck with our whole system, not for a specific candidate.. and that pisses me off and I think both sides should work together to ensure our security systems are better implemented. The Ambassador thing I think is more of a red herring, the cyber stuff is the real issue IMO.

As for his tweets.. I think it's just him fighting back. Look at how much coverage it gets and people see it. If someone accuses you of something and you fight back.. I don't think that's him "shifting the news cycle".. it's him giving his side. Now granted I think he tweets wayyyyy to much.. he won.. and there is strength in silence sometimes instead of the continuous chatter.

Have to agree though.. this shit is fun to watch. Don't think there has ever been a crazier first 60 days of a presidency ever lol.

I have no doubt that the Obama administration did the wire tapping. That has already been established.

And given all the underhanded bullshit the Obama administration has done to try and screw with President Trump, I doubt it was for anything but to fuck with him more.

Bush is the gold standard of how former Presidents should behave... did anyone even believe for a second that Obama would be as professional? Come on..

[time4fun]

I don't know if his phones were tapped or what, but if they were that's some messed up stuff IMO. As for getting a judge to sign off on it.. cmon.. you know asking a judge to do a favor for the Prez isn't a hard thing to do.

The whole Russian thing I'm still waiting to see how it shakes out. I think the Russians were just trying to fuck with our whole system, not for a specific candidate.. and that pisses me off and I think both sides should work together to ensure our security systems are better implemented. The Ambassador thing I think is more of a red herring, the cyber stuff is the real issue IMO.

As for his tweets.. I think it's just him fighting back. Look at how much coverage it gets and people see it. If someone accuses you of something and you fight back.. I don't think that's him "shifting the news cycle".. it's him giving his side. Now granted I think he tweets wayyyyy to much.. he won.. and there is strength in silence sometimes instead of the continuous chatter.

Have to agree though.. this shit is fun to watch. Don't think there has ever been a crazier first 60 days of a presidency ever lol.

So here's what I'm going to say: your reaction to this baseless claim is exactly what Trump was counting on- that you would give him enough benefit of the doubt. He's doing this to undermine your faith in our intelligence agencies so that if they find something (and they already have obviously), you will doubt their findings.

FISA courts are entirely independent of the Executive, by the way. They are appointed by the Chief Justice. There is absolutely no reason to suspect that they have any reason to do favors for the Executive, nor that a Constitutional Law scholar would have dared to ask something like that.

Finally, if there was a wiretap in Trump Tower, there would be a warrant or transcripts to show. This is a story Trump could provide evidence for (he won't because there isn't any), but it's not something we can disprove- which is why he chose it.

[Androidpk]

nor that a Constitutional Law scholar would have dared to ask something like that

:lol2:

[time4fun]

:lol2:

Let the paranoid conspiracy theories go already.

[Shaps]

So here's what I'm going to say: your reaction to this baseless claim is exactly what Trump was counting on- that you would give him enough benefit of the doubt. He's doing this to undermine your faith in our intelligence agencies so that if they find something (and they already have obviously), you will doubt their findings.

FISA courts are entirely independent of the Executive, by the way. They are appointed by the Chief Justice. There is absolutely no reason to suspect that they have any reason to do favors for the Executive, nor that a Constitutional Law scholar would have dared to ask something like that.

Finally, if there was a wiretap in Trump Tower, there would be a warrant or transcripts to show. This is a story Trump could provide evidence for (he won't because there isn't any), but it's not something we can disprove- which is why he chose it.

Lol.. Time4Fun.. I know exactly what FISA is considering past jobs I've held. Actually will be having to deal with it again here in a few months when I transition to my new job.

As for my reaction. I said I don't know if it happened, just if it did it would be messed up. But I find it interesting you just believe anything negative said about him (without facts), but won't give him the benefit of the doubt on such a claim. But I would definitely not put it past a Political party to spy on each other.. I just hate that they do it. If the media treated all of our elected officials the same and reported just facts and did honest investigations on all of them, without bias, I think we would be much better off. As is, we're all getting jerked around in this current environment.

I think both sides are full of shit and this is playground back and forth he said/she said stuff. What makes it insane to watch lol.

[Shaps]

So here's what I'm going to say: your reaction to this baseless claim is exactly what Trump was counting on- that you would give him enough benefit of the doubt. He's doing this to undermine your faith in our intelligence agencies so that if they find something (and they already have obviously), you will doubt their findings.

FISA courts are entirely independent of the Executive, by the way. They are appointed by the Chief Justice. There is absolutely no reason to suspect that they have any reason to do favors for the Executive, nor that a Constitutional Law scholar would have dared to ask something like that.

Finally, if there was a wiretap in Trump Tower, there would be a warrant or transcripts to show. This is a story Trump could provide evidence for (he won't because there isn't any), but it's not something we can disprove- which is why he chose it.

And by the by.. I am part of "our intelligence agencies".. so doubtful my faith is undermined. ;)

[BigWorm]

Lol.. Time4Fun.. I know exactly what FISA is considering past jobs I've held. Actually will be having to deal with it again here in a few months when I transition to my new job.


And by the by.. I am part of "our intelligence agencies".. so doubtful my faith is undermined. ;)

This is terrible opsec. Way to keep your head down

[Shaps]

This is terrible opsec. Way to keep your head down

Lol.. seriously? Considering it gets put on job applications? Stating where you work is not a breach. Those in the intelligence field deal with FISA.. big shocker there lol.

[Tgo01]

Lol.. seriously? Considering it gets put on job applications? Stating where you work is not a breach. Those in the intelligence field deal with FISA.. big shocker there lol.

But that one guy in Independence Day had his father convinced he worked for the cable company. Are you saying movies aren't real?!

[Shaps]

But that one guy in Independence Day had his father convinced he worked for the cable company. Are you saying movies aren't real?!

Ya I'm a super secret squirrel ninja by night, but a lowly refrigerator repair man by day. Shhhh.. Can't let anyone know what my job is at all. Thinking about it, I'm going to tell Wikipedia to pull down their webpage with my full job on there. Talk about some security breaches.

[Archigeek]

I have no doubt that the Obama administration did the wire tapping. That has already been established.

Really? How?

[time4fun]

And by the by.. I am part of "our intelligence agencies".. so doubtful my faith is undermined. ;)

You mentioned that you thought I would believe anything negative said about Trump, but it behooves me to remind you that this is about something Trump has said.

And if you know FISA Courts, then you know two things: that evidence MUST be presented for a warrant, and, flip side, they say yes a lot.

But the end result of this, is that if Trump is lying he is the single most irresponsible man we could have put into office. And everything the dissenters said about him being unfit for office was true.

And if he's not lying- that's REALLY bad. Because it means they had enough evidence on him to get a warrant.

I'm not sure which of these is worse. But you and I both know that there is absolutely no scenario here where Obama ordered someone to wiretap Trump (and someone actually listened without a FISA Court warrant) out of political spite. That's not how the Obama administration was run. It's not really how things have been run since Nixon.

And note- if I wasn't clear enough on this- Trump's strategy has nothing to do with you personally. It has to do with people in general and hoping to get the reaction he got from you.

[Tgo01]

But the end result of this, is that if Trump is lying he is the single most irresponsible man we could have put into office. And everything the dissenters said about him being unfit for office was true.

And if he's not lying- that's REALLY bad. Because it means they had enough evidence on him to get a warrant.

You are so pathetic it's sickening. So if Trump lied about being wire tapped he's the most irresponsible man (I love how you had to qualify that with "man", you know a woman who would have been more irresponsible?), and if he WAS wire tapped then automatically that proves he's bad? Shut the fuck up already you fucking sycophant.

[Taernath]

This is terrible opsec. Way to keep your head down

If I worked for an intelligence agency in any meaningful capacity I would certainly not be dropping hints about it in the politics folder.

[time4fun]

Great tweet from a NY Times journalist today:


Journalists Know: When leaders go berserk, furiously denying there's anything going on blaming others-- that's when you know you're getting close.

More than anything- Trump's reactions to the information about Russian election interference and the revelations of the numerous contacts his campaign had with Russia (despite his repeated denials that any such communications existed) are what have always struck me as most suspicious. If he had been handling all of this with a level head- not attacking our intelligence communities and the free press, for example- I wouldn't be so worried.

[Tgo01]

"Journalists" know? LOL!

Aren't "journalists" the ones who brought up even more of this Russian bullshit literally the day after Trump gave an awesome speech that even had some of his detractors saying it was a great speech?

Yeah, not sure "journalists" should be the ones telling us about people going berserk and blaming others about "getting close."

How anyone can take "mainstream media" seriously at this point is beyond me. It's nothing but fucking confirmation bias at this point.

I also love the implication. If you deny it then OBVIOUSLY something is going on!

If you say nothing then OBVIOUSLY something is going on, otherwise why isn't he denying it?!

I can see clearly now where time4fun gets her marching orders and her "opinions."

[Shaps]

If I worked for an intelligence agency in any meaningful capacity I would certainly not be dropping hints about it in the politics folder.

Ahh.. so you don't? So what would you know about it? Maybe you did in the past who knows.

It's my job. I'm allowed to say what my job is lol. This isn't all James Bond shit. Stop watching the movies.

[Kembal]

Trump can declassify said warrant or provide proof of the wiretap. He's the President. He has access to everything and can declassify any or all of it, by law.

If he doesn't do so, I'm going to believe that he just spouted stuff based on a Breitbart News article.

[ClydeR]

Trump can declassify said warrant or provide proof of the wiretap. He's the President. He has access to everything and can declassify any or all of it, by law.

If he doesn't do so, I'm going to believe that he just spouted stuff based on a Breitbart News article.


Trump relies on information from outside the Deep State.


Donald Trump relied on conservative media sources to make his explosive claim that former President Barack Obama had the then-candidate's phones tapped during the 2016 election campaign, according to a person familiar with the situation.

More... (http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20170304/news/170309434/)


The president, who regularly has access to classified information and intelligence briefings, relied on Breitbart News for his information about the alleged wiretap, according to the person.

Breitbart, the media outlet previously run by White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon, published a story Friday outlining actions supposedly taken by the Obama administration to monitor Trump Tower during the campaign. The story, which claimed the moves were aimed at undermining Trump's candidacy, referenced commentary on Thursday by radio host Mark Levin that made similar claims.


Obama had the audacity to deny it in the face of Trump's unimpeachable -- a word with double applicability to Trump -- source.


"A cardinal rule of the Obama Administration was that no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice," Obama spokesperson Kevin Lewis said in a statement on Saturday. "As part of that practice, neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false."

More... (http://time.com/4691226/barack-obama-president-donald-trump-wiretap/)

[time4fun]

Trump can declassify said warrant or provide proof of the wiretap. He's the President. He has access to everything and can declassify any or all of it, by law.

If he doesn't do so, I'm going to believe that he just spouted stuff based on a Breitbart News article.

Yeah, he's obviously full of it

This is scary stuff though. No President in our lifetimes has ever been this unstable- spouting lies at will, attacking the free press, undermining our intelligence agencies, playing footsie with one of our biggest enemies (and that's best case scenario), nominating multiple friends of Putin to high level positions...

It makes me sad that there are people looking around right now and thinking, "This is the America I want to live in".

[Tgo01]

It makes me sad that there are people looking around right now and thinking, "This is the America I want to live in".

Why the fuck are you still here then? You're (supposedly) in a position most Americans aren't in; you actually have enough money and (supposedly) enough education to move to another country. Could probably even help your brother get citizenship in a new country too. So what are you still doing here? Could it be you're a huge liar and aren't as successful as you claim? Or could it be that things aren't really as bad as you hype them up to be and you still realize the US is one of the best countries in the world to live in right now? And spare me the typical bleeding heart liberal copout of you want to stay here to make things better, because LOL if that's your honest answer.

[Parkbandit]

This is scary stuff though.

It makes me sad

You should talk to your doctor to up your meds, you sound emotionally unstable.

[Back]

Here is why the Trump administration is interested in getting friendly with Putin. It's all about the (oil) money.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/13/exxon-mobil-could-tap-huge-arctic-assets-if-us-russian-relations-thaw.html


Exxon Mobil (http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/XOM) stands to regain access to huge reserves of oil if the United States rolls back sanctions on Russia. U.S. sanctions on Russia have prevented Exxon Mobil from exploring assets covering 63.6 million acres. The prospect of rapprochement between the U.S. and Russia remains speculative, but both President-elect Donald Trump (http://www.cnbc.com/donald-trump/) and Russian President Vladimir Putin (http://www.cnbc.com/vladimir-putin/) have said they want to improve relations. The two countries' relationship fell apart after Russia took Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 and then intervened in civil wars in Ukraine and Syria.

[Alashir]

Really? How?

I'll second this. Curious how he knows something no else does?

[time4fun]

You should talk to your doctor to up your meds, you sound emotionally unstable.

Oh honey.

That's what most of us are thinking about you.

[Gelston]

Oh honey.

That's what most of us are thinking about you.

Stop speaking for more than yourself.

[Tgo01]

Stop speaking for more than yourself.

At this point I don't think she's even qualified to speak for herself.

[Parkbandit]

Yea, I thought I read it on the Washington Post or Times.. but it was the Daily Mail quoting "Heat Street".

My B.

[Parkbandit]

Oh honey.

That's what most of us are thinking about you.

The only one here who comes across as unhinged and not in control of her emotions is you.

But thank you for once again speaking for most people.

Dumb cunt.

[SHAFT]

The beating? LOL.

Stop. You're being stupid again.

To be fair, I don't have a problem with a wiretap being placed on Trump given the hoopla surrounding Russia interference. I DO, however, have a problem with a sitting President who has put the full weight of his endorsement behind one candidate having the other candidate wiretapped.

Trump = shit-show

Have they done anything competently yet?

[time4fun]

The only one here who comes across as unhinged and not in control of her emotions is you.

But thank you for once again speaking for most people.

Dumb cunt.

Oddly emotional response. Sorry I hurt your feelings. Trolls are people too.

[Back]

Trump = shit-show

Have they done anything competently yet?

They have at least shown they are in bed with the Russians.

[time4fun]

Here is why the Trump administration is interested in getting friendly with Putin. It's all about the (oil) money.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/13/exxon-mobil-could-tap-huge-arctic-assets-if-us-russian-relations-thaw.html

Yeah this is an unlikely motivator.

Russia uses its oil to influence US based energy companies, but it does little to influence US government.

The more likely scenario is that they arranged part of Trump's financial bailout and/or had incriminating information on him. (If there's anything nefarious going on).

[Nathala Crane]

https://media.giphy.com/media/dC9DTdqPmRnlS/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

Trump = shit-show

Have they done anything competently yet?

Frozen federal hires
Greenlite Keystone Pipeline
Started the process to end so called sanctuary cities
Begun the process of ending Obamacare
Begun the process of building a wall

I'm almost tired of winning and we're only what.. 45 days in?

[macgyver]

You can't repeal Obamacare, even the fucking Republicans realize this. Good but flawed laws that makes sense are hard to remove once implemented.

[Neveragain]

You can't repeal Obamacare, even the fucking Republicans realize this. Good but flawed laws that makes sense are hard to remove once implemented.

If I remember correctly he signed an executive order making it so it's not required by law to carry health insurance. ACA is dead.

[rolfard]

May have already been said but, wouldnt it be funny if this alleged tapping was on russians calling trump tower?

[macgyver]

If I remember correctly he signed an executive order making it so it's not required by law to carry health insurance. ACA is dead.

Even the dumb white hicks with a 8th grade reading level will feel it when they lose their healthcare. Case in point...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E48QqcTOXeY

[Neveragain]

Even the dumb white hicks with a 8th grade reading level will feel it when they lose their healthcare. Case in point...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E48QqcTOXeY

Sooo...the ACA is dead. Ok, thanks.

Go back to thinking how cool you are because you have a leet GS character. Even the hicks aren't this geh.

[Nathala Crane]

Distract the sheeple with unsubstantiated claims of the kind they want to believe, and they lap it up like - oh, say, like "liberal tears!" See OP for more details.

[time4fun]

Trump released his "evidence" for the wiretapping: some media articles. The sources include Heat Street- which is far from anything approaching reputable. Notably, none of the mainstream articles listed actually suggested Obama had Trump Tower's phones tapped. Though a few are from sources he has previously labeled as fake news.

And, of course, the single most idiotic thing about this is that if there actually were a wiretap, Trump could produce actual evidence. He doesn't need "anonymous sources".

In my opinion, this entire lie warrants impeachment. This is beyond the pale.

As a reminder, we're not even though the second month yet

[macgyver]

Sooo...the ACA is dead. Ok, thanks.

Go back to thinking how cool you are because you have a leet GS character. Even the hicks aren't this geh.

OKAyyyyyyyyy then prepare your asshole for 2018!!!!!!!!!!

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/a/ab/You-bitch-gif-darren-criss-23210971-500-248.gif/revision/latest?cb=20121221202816

[Neveragain]

OKAyyyyyyyyy then prepare your asshole for 2018!!!!!!!!!!

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/a/ab/You-bitch-gif-darren-criss-23210971-500-248.gif/revision/latest?cb=20121221202816

It's sad how ignorant you are about how fucked the Democrat party is right now.

[Tgo01]

In my opinion, this entire lie warrants impeachment. This is beyond the pale.

Jesus fucking Christ. You think everything warrants impeachment. Did you think Obama should have been impeached when he lied to the nation and said a video was the reason for Benghazi?

[time4fun]

It's sad how ignorant you are about how fucked the Democrat party is right now.

Hrm... Going into 2018 with one party controlling the White House and both Houses of Congress, and their President's approval ratings are already under water. And the three special elections so far have been great for the Dems.

Yeah, Democrats aren't exactly quaking in their stylish yet affordable boots right now.

Though until we get gerrymandering and voter suppression ended once and for all, the Republican party will continue to hold an innate and deeply unconstitutional advantage in the system.

[Tgo01]

Though until we get gerrymandering and voter suppression ended once and for all, the Republican party will continue to hold an innate and deeply unconstitutional advantage in the system.

Would you shut up with this gerrymandering bullshit already? How does gerrymandering explain Trump's victory or the victories of Republicans in the Senate?

[~Rocktar~]

Would you shut up with this gerrymandering bullshit already? How does gerrymandering explain Trump's victory or the victories of Republicans in the Senate?

Oh gods, you done gone and fucked up. You won't be able to close this door for days and walls of meaningless text bullshit.

[time4fun]

Oh gods, you done gone and fucked up. You won't be able to close this door for days and walls of meaningless text bullshit.

Yeah. I posted the Congressional numbers for the last 12 years or so in another thread yesterday if people want to see it.

But there's no point in debating this. Everyone knows it's real, the only question is how much of an impact it has.

[Tgo01]

Yeah. I posted the Congressional numbers for the last 12 years or so in another thread yesterday if people want to see it.

But there's no point in debating this. Everyone knows it's real, the only question is how much of an impact it has.

Yes in the same post you mentioned the SENATE as if gerrymandering could possibly affect the senate.

[SHAFT]

Frozen federal hires
Greenlite Keystone Pipeline
Started the process to end so called sanctuary cities
Begun the process of ending Obamacare
Begun the process of building a wall

I'm almost tired of winning and we're only what.. 45 days in?

I dig the pipeline and the lobbyists thing, but besides that it's been a complete circus.

It won't be a wall and you know it. A fucking fence that won't probably won't ever be completed. Plus it's going to cost much more than he sold you on and Mexico won't be paying for it.

As for as replacing Obamacare, they haven't introduced a competent plan. It's a joke.

Anyone who bought into trump's bullshit during his campaign and voted for him should feel like a sucker. You bought into bullshit/con-artist. He said anything and everything it took to get a vote. He's the Shakeweight President.

At least we have the next attempt at a travel ban to look forward to. Maybe he'll get it right this time!

[Neveragain]

Hrm... Going into 2018 with one party controlling the White House and both Houses of Congress, and their President's approval ratings are already under water. And the three special elections so far have been great for the Dems.

Yeah, Democrats aren't exactly quaking in their stylish yet affordable boots right now.

Though until we get gerrymandering and voter suppression ended once and for all, the Republican party will continue to hold an innate and deeply unconstitutional advantage in the system.

The bubble you live in is tiny, like tiny little hands.

[Parkbandit]

In my opinion, this entire lie warrants impeachment. This is beyond the pale.

As a reminder, we're not even though the second month yet

You clearly know as much about impeachment as you do US Presidential Elections...

[Parkbandit]

Hrm... Going into 2018 with one party controlling the White House and both Houses of Congress, and their President's approval ratings are already under water. And the three special elections so far have been great for the Dems.

Yeah, Democrats aren't exactly quaking in their stylish yet affordable boots right now.

Though until we get gerrymandering and voter suppression ended once and for all, the Republican party will continue to hold an innate and deeply unconstitutional advantage in the system.

"Derp, derp.. gerrymandering gave the GOP control of the Senate!"

[Parkbandit]

Yeah. I posted the Congressional numbers for the last 12 years or so in another thread yesterday if people want to see it.

But there's no point in debating this. Everyone knows it's real, the only question is how much of an impact it has.

Everyone?

Explain again how the GOP gerrymandered them into control of the Senate and got Trump elected.

You really are stupid.

[Androidpk]

"Gerrymandering is preventing my brother from gaining citizenship!"

[Tgo01]

"Gerrymandering is preventing my brother from gaining citizenship!"

lol

Surprised she hasn't said her brother not being a citizen is grounds for impeachment yet.

[Parkbandit]

I dig the pipeline and the lobbyists thing, but besides that it's been a complete circus.

In 45 days.


It won't be a wall and you know it. A fucking fence that won't probably won't ever be completed. Plus it's going to cost much more than he sold you on and Mexico won't be paying for it.

Continue to underestimate President Trump. It makes the tears even sweeter.


As for as replacing Obamacare, they haven't introduced a competent plan. It's a joke.

Just repeal it. Remember we used to have healthcare prior to the Government? Yea, still can happen.


Anyone who bought into trump's bullshit during his campaign and voted for him should feel like a sucker. You bought into bullshit/con-artist. He said anything and everything it took to get a vote. He's the Shakeweight President.

I've never been happier with my vote... plus he is still 10423x better than Hillary.


At least we have the next attempt at a travel ban to look forward to. Maybe he'll get it right this time!

Let's just let everyone in!

[SHAFT]

He's a complete dumbfuck. His travel ban was banned after a week. His main source of intel is breitbart, Fox News, and maxim magazine!

Guess what else has happened in the first 45 days? Your national security adviser lasted just over 3 weeks and your AG is probably going to be out by the end of the week. Fantastic job guys.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/03A64ACB-C7A4-45D5-A19F-EF67074E7E9C.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/03A64ACB-C7A4-45D5-A19F-EF67074E7E9C.jpg.html)

You either a troll or you bought in, PB. If I were in any way associated with the dumbfucks who voted for trump, I certainly wouldn't admit it.

[Androidpk]

Damn, Shaft, why so violent? You been smoking the reefer again?

[~Rocktar~]

He's a complete dumbfuck. His travel ban was banned after a week. His main source of intel is breitbart, Fox News, and maxim magazine!

Guess what else has happened in the first 45 days? Your national security adviser lasted just over 3 weeks and your AG is probably going to be out by the end of the week. Fantastic job guys.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/03A64ACB-C7A4-45D5-A19F-EF67074E7E9C.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/03A64ACB-C7A4-45D5-A19F-EF67074E7E9C.jpg.html)

You either a troll or you bought in, PB. If I were in any way associated with the dumbfucks who voted for trump, I certainly wouldn't admit it.

Because insulting people has worked so well for Liberal/Socialists so far.

[time4fun]

Because insulting people has worked so well for Liberal/Socialists so far.

Who wants to point out the irony here?

[Tgo01]

Who wants to point out the irony here?

There is no irony. Trump and the Republicans won. Maybe the "irony" is that Democrats had some good times in screaming racist and bigot at the top of their lungs but that faded fast (except for getting Obama reelected) and now people are tired of their shit and voted for someone who wasn't going to play their bullshit games.

Maybe the takeaway here isn't "Gee, we should double down on our identity politics! It USED to work!" maybe the takeaway should be "Gee, maybe we should move away from identity politics and actually, I don't know, come up with policy ideas that people actually like and can get excited about?"

[Androidpk]

Maybe the takeaway here isn't "Gee, we should double down on our identity politics! It USED to work!" maybe the takeaway should be "Gee, maybe we should move away from identity politics and actually, I don't know, come up with policy ideas that people actually like and can get excited about?"

But Nancy Pelosi said there is nothing wrong with the Democratic party and they don't need to change.

[Tgo01]

But Nancy Pelosi said there is nothing wrong with the Democratic party and they don't need to change.

I'm beginning to think Nancy Pelosi == time4fun. They both even live in California!

[Parkbandit]

He's a complete dumbfuck. His travel ban was banned after a week. His main source of intel is breitbart, Fox News, and maxim magazine!

Guess what else has happened in the first 45 days? Your national security adviser lasted just over 3 weeks and your AG is probably going to be out by the end of the week. Fantastic job guys.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/03A64ACB-C7A4-45D5-A19F-EF67074E7E9C.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/03A64ACB-C7A4-45D5-A19F-EF67074E7E9C.jpg.html)

You either a troll or you bought in, PB. If I were in any way associated with the dumbfucks who voted for trump, I certainly wouldn't admit it.

Seeing how upset sensitive people like you get.. it was worth the vote x 100

Like I said, Trump is 100x better than Hillary ever would be. Sorry you were a loser in the last election. Better luck next time chump.

Now just step aside so we can Make America Great Again.

[Parkbandit]

I'm beginning to think Nancy Pelosi == time4fun. They both even live in California!

I would have guessed Maxine Waters to be honest.

[Tgo01]

I would have guessed Maxine Waters to be honest.

Maybe the two had a love child. It would actually explain a lot.

[Androidpk]

I'm beginning to think Nancy Pelosi == time4fun. They both even live in California!

I would believe that.

[Androidpk]

Seeing how upset sensitive people like you get.. it was worth the vote x 100

Like I said, Trump is 100x better than Hillary ever would be. Sorry you were a loser in the last election. Better luck next time chump.

Now just step aside so we can Make America Great Again.

Pointing out the obvious doesn't make one sensitive. Sure, he's a better pick than Hilary but he's still an ignorant, thin skinned orange cheeto.

[macgyver]

I just hope and pray this country doesn't get into any super clutch situations like a massive recession or some stand off with china or some crap.

[Back]

Seeing how upset sensitive people like you get.. it was worth the vote x 100

Like I said, Trump is 100x better than Hillary ever would be. Sorry you were a loser in the last election. Better luck next time chump.

Now just step aside so we can Make America Great Again.

I can't believe how butthurt you and Trump still are over Obama. Trump won. Get over it.

[Parkbandit]

I can't believe how butthurt you and Trump still are over Obama. Trump won. Get over it.

Remember when you used to be funny? Yea, neither do I.

[Latrinsorm]

Just repeal it.They repealed it 52 times when Obama was President. Now, suddenly, with control of both houses and the Presidency they're unable to even bring it to a vote.

When are you going to get tired of these people jerking you around?

[time4fun]

They repealed it 52 times when Obama was President. Now, suddenly, with control of both houses and the Presidency they're unable to even bring it to a vote.

When are you going to get tired of these people jerking you around?

Never. He doesn't process information that contradicts his worldview, and it's pretty clear from his thousands of Politics folder posts yet only dozens of which have ever involved even an attempt at citing facts (and the ones he does are almost always easily fact checked into oblivion) that he doesn't really bother reading much of the news.

[SHAFT]

Seeing how upset sensitive people like you get.. it was worth the vote x 100

Like I said, Trump is 100x better than Hillary ever would be. Sorry you were a loser in the last election. Better luck next time chump.

Now just step aside so we can Make America Great Again.

I voted for Howard Stern. What do you mean "you people"? Are you pointing out I'm black?

Aren't you a little old to be playing troll on the internet?

PM for a better price on that snake oil. Heals those aches and pains you're used to in your old age. Also, I have a wonderful lot of land on the moon that would be a perfect spot for you to rest at in your upcoming twilight years. I'll give you homey-hookup PC price!

[Androidpk]

Oh snap, FBI director Comey calling Trump out on his bullshit..

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/us/politics/trump-seeks-inquiry-into-allegations-that-obama-tapped-his-phones.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0

WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, asked the Justice Department this weekend to publicly reject President Trump’s assertion that President Barack Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per) ordered the tapping of Mr. Trump’s phones, senior American officials said on Sunday. Mr. Comey has argued that the highly charged claim is false and must be corrected, they said, but the department has not released any such statement.

[Nathala Crane]

Trump is a carnival side show and Porkbandit is a toadie who has never had an original thought in his entire existence on this forum. Having caught up with the last two pages of this thread, that's my takeaway. I want those five minutes back. :/

[time4fun]

Trump is a carnival side show and Porkbandit is a toadie who has never had an original thought in his entire existence on this forum. Having caught up with the last two pages of this thread, that's my takeaway. I want those five minutes back. :/

That's actually one of the nicer things anyone has ever said about PB.

[Parkbandit]

You two should take your clown show on the road.

Sorry Hillary lost. Badly. She got Trumped hard.

I can understand how it's upsetting and scary for you both though. Ok, no I can't, so I'll just laugh at your emotional outbursts and chalk it up to PMS and not having your meds evened out.

[ClydeR]

Oh snap, FBI director Comey calling Trump out on his bullshit..

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/us/politics/trump-seeks-inquiry-into-allegations-that-obama-tapped-his-phones.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0


As Sean Spider said in today's special off-camera press gaggle that reporters are putting live on Periscope, the claim about Comey is anonymously sourced and you should not trust it. Nobody should put any credence on anonymous sources.

[ClydeR]

Sen. John McCain on Monday demanded the release of any evidence backing up President Donald Trump's claim that President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower in the run-up to the presidential election, blasting the White House’s refusal to answer additional questions about the matter.

McCain said the American people “have a right to know on what basis the president of the United States said that his predecessor had broken the law by wiretapping Trump Tower.”

“I haven't seen anything like this,” the Arizona Republican told reporters, explaining that the Trump administration “should answer questions.”

More... (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mccain-trump-wiretapping-235749)


McCain doesn't like Trump, and he thinks he's caught Trump in a lie. Guess what? Trump doesn't get caught, and Trump doesn't like people who get caught.

[time4fun]

McCain doesn't like Trump, and he thinks he's caught Trump in a lie. Guess what? Trump doesn't get caught, and Trump doesn't like people who get caught.

He gets caught in lies like every 48 hours... And I'm being generous here.

[Androidpk]

(CNN)Preet Bharara, the US attorney for the Southern District of New York, tweeted Saturday that he was fired after indicating he would not submit a letter of resignation as requested by President Donald Trump's administration.

[Peppwyn]

McCain doesn't like Trump, and he thinks he's caught Trump in a lie. Guess what? Trump doesn't get caught, and Trump doesn't like people who get caught.

Huh? He's been caught lying several times, however he just pushes it off as 'something he was told' or quotes 'well, a number of people believe it to be true'... Most of the time, that number is 0.

[tyrant-201]

Yea, I thought I read it on the Washington Post or Times.. but it was the Daily Mail quoting "Heat Street".

My B.

LOL moron.

[Parkbandit]

LOL moron.

LOL idiot.

[Methais]

In 3 years from now time4fun will still be posting "...this is definite grounds for impeachment this time for real. So long Trump!"

[Parkbandit]

In 3 years from now time4fun will still be posting "...this is definite grounds for impeachment this time for real. So long Trump!"

Hillary2020!
THIS IS REALLY HER TIME THIS TIME I MEAN IT!

[Ardwen]

well they will have the goods on Trump from the microwaves and TVs around him according to Conway, how will he stand it

[tyrant-201]

well they will have the goods on Trump from the microwaves and TVs around him according to Conway, how will he stand it

LOL. Parkbandit will probably take everything she says for truth too. Amazing how ignorant Trump's followers can be. They're everything they lambast the far left for, and more.

[tyrant-201]

LOL idiot.

Since we take third rate publications for truth, what does the national enquirer have to say today old fella? What a joke you are.

[Parkbandit]

Since we take third rate publications for truth, what does the national enquirer have to say today old fella? What a joke you are.

What part of I was mistaken in the publication did you fail to get through your 3rd grade level intellect?

Go ask your teacher if you can eat crayons again and let the adults talk.

[Parkbandit]

LOL. Parkbandit will probably take everything she says for truth too. Amazing how ignorant Trump's followers can be. They're everything they lambast the far left for, and more.

Why don't you go to Guam and wait for it to capsize.

Fucking loser.

[tyrant-201]

What part of I was mistaken in the publication did you fail to get through your 3rd grade level intellect?

Go ask your teacher if you can eat crayons again and let the adults talk.

Perhaps you wouldn't be mistaken on the article in question if you had actually read it. You know what's even worse than believing a fake article? Believing a fake article without even reading it.

[Parkbandit]

Perhaps you wouldn't be mistaken on the article in question if you had actually read it. You know what's even worse than believing a fake article? Believing a fake article without even reading it.

This is what happens when adults read multiple websites and use multiple sources.

Ah... to be naive and simple minded like yourself.. only to "read" stuff on Doratheexplorer.com and pretend looking at the pretty pictures is reading.

Now go get those crayons and show us how you "write"! We're very, very proud of you. Seriously.

http://i.imgur.com/w4IxJff.gif

[tyrant-201]

This is what happens when adults read multiple websites and use multiple sources.

Ah... to be naive and simple minded like yourself.. only to "read" stuff on Doratheexplorer.com and pretend looking at the pretty pictures is reading.

Now go get those crayons and show us how you "write"! We're very, very proud of you. Seriously.

http://i.imgur.com/w4IxJff.gif

Deflection, per usual. Do us a favor and check your sources next time. Or don't, I enjoy a good laugh.

[Parkbandit]

Deflection, per usual. Do us a favor and check your sources next time. Or don't, I enjoy a good laugh.

Deflection is a very big word for you! I am really proud that you spelled it correctly too!

You have no idea what it means though, since there is nothing intelligent from you to actually require deflection. :(

Now, back to nickjr.com for you little fella! Color something pretty for us!

[Methais]

This is what happens when adults read multiple websites and use multiple sources.

Ah... to be naive and simple minded like yourself.. only to "read" stuff on Doratheexplorer.com and pretend looking at the pretty pictures is reading.

Now go get those crayons and show us how you "write"! We're very, very proud of you. Seriously.

http://i.imgur.com/w4IxJff.gif

If you stare at that kid for more than a few seconds she becomes a South Park Canadian.

[Gelston]

If you stare at that kid for more than a few seconds she becomes a real world Canadian.

ftfy

[Parkbandit]

White House lawyers last month discovered that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.


The pattern of Rice's requests was discovered in a National Security Council review of the government's policy on "unmasking" the identities of individuals in the U.S. who are not targets of electronic eavesdropping, but whose communications are collected incidentally. Normally those names are redacted from summaries of monitored conversations and appear in reports as something like "U.S. Person One."

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel

Not a big fan of "anonymous sources" though. Hopefully more attention will be brought to address this instead of the "ZOMG HILLARY LOST THE ELECTIONS BECAUSE OF RUSSIA!!" bullshit.

[jtyler]

White House lawyers last month discovered that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.



This is a really spicy meme. If true, then who was Susan Rice leaking the unmasked intelligence to, and why?

Obviously it sounds like she was digging for dirt on Trump and co, but I highly doubt that she was the one that went to Wa Po and others

[RichardCranium]

Supposedly the N.Y. Times sat on the Susan Rice story for a few days.

[RichardCranium]

This is a really spicy meme. If true, then who was Susan Rice leaking the unmasked intelligence to, and why?

Obviously it sounds like she was digging for dirt on Trump and co, but I highly doubt that she was the one that went to Wa Po and others

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/03/susan-rice-requested-to-unmask-names-trump-transition-officials-sources-say.html


Multiple sources tell Fox News that Susan Rice, former national security adviser under then-President Barack Obama, requested to unmask the names of Trump transition officials caught up in surveillance.

The unmasked names, of people associated with Donald Trump, were then sent to all those at the National Security Council, some at the Defense Department, then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and then-CIA Director John Brennan – essentially, the officials at the top, including former Rice deputy Ben Rhodes.

[Parkbandit]

This is a really spicy meme. If true, then who was Susan Rice leaking the unmasked intelligence to, and why?

Obviously it sounds like she was digging for dirt on Trump and co, but I highly doubt that she was the one that went to Wa Po and others

Because you believe Susan Rice is honest and pure?

LOL.

[Ardwen]

I love the whole 'sources said' hate when its against your party, but 'sources' is great now that fox found one in your favor?

[Parkbandit]

I love the whole 'sources said' hate when its against your party, but 'sources' is great now that fox found one in your favor?

You should learn to read better:


Not a big fan of "anonymous sources" though.

[Ardwen]

That wasn't aimed at you in particular, more a generalization of the leadership of your party

[SHAFT]

That wasn't aimed at you in particular, more a generalization of the leadership of your party

Don't take any guff from these swine!

[Ardwen]

heh, while he and I often vastly disagree on many principles, PB and I are old friends. Only I get to call him names.

[SHAFT]

heh, while he and I often vastly disagree on many principles, PB and I are old friends. Only I get to call him names.

True that

[Parkbandit]

That wasn't aimed at you in particular, more a generalization of the leadership of your party

Hopefully, more resources are after this real story instead of chasing their tails, pretending Russia was the reason Hillary lost.

[Methais]

True that

Ageist.

[Parkbandit]

Wait... so Susan Rice claimed she didn't know anything about anything related to unmasking intelligence reports regarding Trump 2 weeks ago... but NOW she said she unmasked it, but there was no political motivation behind it at all!

Seriously, drag her into a hearing and put her lying ass under oath.

http://lawnewz.com/video/susan-rice-wont-deny-trump-unmasking-requests-despite-claiming-ignorance-just-weeks-ago/

[Androidpk]

Some of those comments are hilarious..

"Perhaps she illegally unmasked American citizens as part of a spontaneous protest against a video she saw online?"

[Tgo01]

Is Susan Rice black? If so it's both sexist and racist to be talking about this. Shame on you guys!

[Gelston]

Is Susan Rice black? If so it's both sexist and racist to be talking about this. Shame on you guys!

Stfu tgo4fun

[Tgo01]

Stfu tgo4fun

:(

[Methais]

Stfu tgo4fun

We went 15 pages being completely civil and you had to go and ruin everything. :(

[Gelston]

We went 15 pages being completely civil and you had to go and ruin everything. :(

Stfu methlash

[Wrathbringer]

Stfu methlash

stfu Gelstonsorm

[Gelston]

stfu Gelstonsorm

Stfu Wrathbird.

[Methais]

Stfu methlash

Shut up time4gaystonR


stfu Gelstonsorm

And you too Savageshart.

[Gelston]

Shut up time4gaystonR



And you too Savageshart.

Stfu macthais

[Methais]

Stfu macthais

www.gelstonse.cx

[Gelston]

www.gelstonse.cx

I was aroused.