Flynn Resigns as National Security Adviser

[BigWorm]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/us/politics/donald-trump-national-security-adviser-michael-flynn.html?_r=0

They've gotta be joking about Petraeus as a replacement though:


White House officials have begun discussing the possibility of replacements, and Mr. Trump is consulting Jim Mattis, the secretary of defense and a retired four-star general. Among the options are David H. Petraeus, the former C.I.A. director, and Thomas P. Bossert, the head of Mr. Trump’s domestic security council. Mr. Petraeus, also a retired four-star general, was forced out as the director of the C.I.A. because of an affair with his biographer, to whom he passed classified information. Mr. Petraeus would not need confirmation by the Senate as national security adviser.

[Taernath]

I mean, I like Petraeus, but he should be put out to pasture.

[Geijon Khyree]

Petraeus is a talented military mind. He made the mistake cheating on his wife obviously. They aren't the same thing.

[drauz]

Petraeus is a talented military mind. He made the mistake cheating on his wife obviously. They aren't the same thing.

And the also minor thing of giving out classified material... Maybe he should run for President!

He is Bill and Hillary rolled into one!

[Geijon Khyree]

He compromised himself, no doubt.

[Archigeek]

Great. The one guy advising on national security who knew something about the subject.

[Tgo01]

They've gotta be joking about Petraeus as a replacement though:

Agreed. They should get Oliver North.

[Warriorbird]

Agreed. They should get Oliver North.

Absolutely. He can also offer his unique perspectives on the drug war.

[BigWorm]

Great. The one guy advising on national security who knew something about the subject.

Don't worry, I'm sure President Bannon and the son-in-law-in-chief will make a bigly pick

[Gelston]

They should get George H.W. Bush.

[Gelston]

Were he 10 years younger than might actually be a genius pick. Old H.W. is now revealed to have been curiously sane. His military service was also legit.

He can work from home over a private email server.

[Gelston]

I think they should go ahead and just tap Kellogg. He is basically already there anyways.

[Allereli]

He can work from home over a private email server.

Supposedly Trump is doing that from the White House/Mara Lago so it shouldn't be a problem

[Parkbandit]

Supposedly Trump is doing that from the White House/Mara Lago so it shouldn't be a problem

You should unplug from ihatedonaldtrumpandcantstopcryingoverhillaryscollo salloss and stop spreading false news.

[Gelston]

You should unplug from ihatedonaldtrumpandcantstopcryingoverhillaryscollo salloss and stop spreading false news.

She popped in talking about Gerrymandering yesterday. Did you know gerrymandering has no effect on electors except in two states, neither of which were significant to change the election either way?

[Stumplicker]

I hear Edward Snowden has worked in and around National Security, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have anything else better going on at the moment. If we're throwing ridiculous names into the hat, there's mine!

[Allereli]

I hear Edward Snowden has worked in and around National Security, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have anything else better going on at the moment. If we're throwing ridiculous names into the hat, there's mine!

good one. My pick is the waiter at Mar-a-Lago

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-turns-mar-a-lago-club-terrace-into-open-air-situation-room/2017/02/13/c5525096-f20d-11e6-a9b0-ecee7ce475fc_story.html

[ClydeR]

The important thing is that Trump fired Flynn as soon as Trump learned that Flynn lied about his contacts with Russia.

[Methais]

They should get George H.W. Bush.

He should hire Hillary and the circle of trolling will be complete.

[Parkbandit]

She popped in talking about Gerrymandering yesterday. Did you know gerrymandering has no effect on electors except in two states, neither of which were significant to change the election either way?

Did you know that Hillary won the popular vote by 3.5 million people and that the election was stolen from her because she's only a woman!?!?

DID YOU????

[Juicebox]

Are any of you Trump supporters starting worry at all that he has installed a bunch of spastic mouth-breathers in sensitive high-level positions who are turning out to have no clue what they are doing?

[Methais]

Are any of you Trump supporters starting worry at all that he has installed a bunch of spastic mouth-breathers in sensitive high-level positions who are turning out to have no clue what they are doing?

Well I mean Flynn is a registered democrat and all.

[Gelston]

Are any of you Trump supporters starting worry at all that he has installed a bunch of spastic mouth-breathers in sensitive high-level positions who are turning out to have no clue what they are doing?

Nope and I don't think any of them are what you are saying. You're just angry that you backed the losing side.

[Wrathbringer]

Are any of you Trump supporters starting worry at all that he has installed a bunch of spastic mouth-breathers in sensitive high-level positions who are turning out to have no clue what they are doing?

No.

[Fallen]

http://i.imgur.com/c4jt321.png

[Neveragain]

Are any of you Trump supporters starting worry at all that he has installed a bunch of spastic mouth-breathers in sensitive high-level positions who are turning out to have no clue what they are doing?

So far Trump hasn't destabilized a mid-eastern country and stood around with his thumb up his ass as another country falls into a hellish civil war. There's really an endless list of things he hasn't done when compared to the last administration.

I think we all would like to see investigations into the e-mails though.

[Methais]

http://i.imgur.com/c4jt321.png

But Obama isn't in office anymore.

[Pin]

So far Trump hasn't destabilized a mid-eastern country and stood around with his thumb up his ass as another country falls into a hellish civil war. There's really an endless list of things he hasn't done when compared to the last administration.

The night is still young

[tyrant-201]

Lol at this gang of retards and misfits with their thumb so far up Trump's ass they can't smell the shit coming out of his mouth on a daily basis. Keep staying onboard the sinking ship. Can't wait to hear the excuses when he's inevitably impeached.

[Gelston]

Lol at this gang of retards and misfits with their thumb so far up Trump's ass they can't smell the shit coming out of his mouth on a daily basis. Keep staying onboard the sinking ship. Can't wait to hear the excuses when he's inevitably impeached.

Um, the ship is called the US pal. You emigrating?

[tyrant-201]

Um, the ship is called the US pal. You emigrating?

Nope, I'll just wait it out and complain the entire time - much like you all did during the Obama presidency.

And I live in California, no reason to move anywhere.

[Gelston]

Nope, I'll just wait it out and complain the entire time - much like you all did during the Obama presidency.

And I live in California, no reason to move anywhere.

Enjoy the dams.

[Jhynnifer]

Are any of you Trump supporters starting worry at all that he has installed a bunch of spastic mouth-breathers in sensitive high-level positions who are turning out to have no clue what they are doing?

I don't know. I, for one, think the next four years are going to be a merry-go-round of hilarity punctuated with a lot of facepalming.

[tyrant-201]

Enjoy the dams.

Good one.

[Gelston]

Good one.

I hope you have more than one good one. you obviously have a fucked up spillway.

[Candor]

Are any of you Trump supporters starting worry at all that he has installed a bunch of spastic mouth-breathers in sensitive high-level positions who are turning out to have no clue what they are doing?

No

[Wrathbringer]

Lol at this gang of retards and misfits with their thumb so far up Trump's ass they can't smell the shit coming out of his mouth on a daily basis. Keep staying onboard the sinking ship. Can't wait to hear the excuses when he's inevitably impeached.

Lol you lost

[tyrant-201]

Lol you lost

You lost at life a long, long time ago my dear sharting friend.

[Neveragain]

Nope, I'll just wait it out and complain the entire time - much like you all did during the Obama presidency.

And I live in California, no reason to move anywhere.

Enjoy the radiation

[Gelston]

You lost at life a long, long time ago my dear sharing friend.

He shares deer with you? Wtf.

[tyrant-201]

He shares deer with you? Wtf.

Sharting ;)

[Neveragain]

I don't know. I, for one, think the next four years are going to be a merry-go-round of hilarity punctuated with a lot of facepalming.

that's the spirit

[Parkbandit]

Lol at this gang of retards and misfits with their thumb so far up Trump's ass they can't smell the shit coming out of his mouth on a daily basis. Keep staying onboard the sinking ship. Can't wait to hear the excuses when he's inevitably impeached.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c0/94/ba/c094ba5a4b89391d5b1837c89caabb88.jpg

[rolfard]

There are no winners here, because they would already be tired of winning and talking a nap by now.

[Gelston]

There are no winners here, because they would already be tired of winning and talking a nap by now.

We have not yet begun to win.

[Methais]

Enjoy the dams.

http://s.quickmeme.com/img/f8/f825e03e242b4133034dc2df2b44d763784aa52861892b6a23 0cd7db073a6f10.jpg

[Gelston]

http://s.quickmeme.com/img/f8/f825e03e242b4133034dc2df2b44d763784aa52861892b6a23 0cd7db073a6f10.jpg

Yes.

[tyrant-201]

8365

[Methais]

8365

Even liberals don't like liberals anymore.

[tyrant-201]

Even liberals don't like liberals anymore.

Reading the Breitbart comment section tell you that? Come to California. Even the Republicans are liberal.

[Gelston]

Reading the Breitbart comment section tell you that? Come to California. Even the Republicans are liberal.

It's a trap. That state sucks.

[Allereli]

I keep seeing these "you lost" statements, like "you're just mad your side lost." Last I checked we were all on the same side, the United States of America, a majority of people wanted someone else to be President, and the man who did win the Electoral College was cheered on by our enemies, including Russia and North Korea.

Since taking office 3 weeks ago POTUS has continued as if he's campaigning rather than addressing the serious issues of governing. He has isolated us from our allies, tried to reinstate torture, banned legal residents from returning to the country, been feckless with sensitive security materials, tried to discredit our judicial system, among other things. Looks like we all lost, only some of you are cheering it on.

[Gelston]

I keep seeing these "you lost" statements, like "you're just mad your side lost." Last I checked we were all on the same side, the United States of America, a majority of people wanted someone else to be President, and the man who did win the Electoral College was cheered on by our enemies, including Russia and North Korea.

Since taking office 3 weeks ago POTUS has continued as if he's campaigning rather than addressing the serious issues of governing. He has isolated us from our allies, tried to reinstate torture, banned legal residents from returning to the country, been feckless with sensitive security materials, tried to discredit our judicial system, among other things. Looks like we all lost, only some of you are cheering it on.

Where has he banned legal residents from returning to the country?

BTW, it was you and your liberal cohorts responding with only the terms "racist! misogynist!" that created the divide, that made it two sides. You continue to do this anytime anyone disagrees with you. Your side, your ideology, lost.

[rolfard]

Of all the accusations you could dispute, the ban comes first? Lol

[Gelston]

Of all the accusations you could dispute, the ban comes first? Lol

That is the one I have the most experience with disputing because it is brought up a lot. Do you not have a rebuttal? Or do you just have that line?

[Allereli]

Where has he banned legal residents from returning to the country?

BTW, it was you and your liberal cohorts responding with only the terms "racist! misogynist!" that created the divide, that made it two sides. You continue to do this anytime anyone disagrees with you. Your side, your ideology, lost.

you can google to find out that information, there have been many cases, especially of students. if you don't want to be called racist misogynists, then don't act like it.

[Gelston]

you can google to find out that information, there have been many cases, especially of students. if you don't want to be called racist misogynists, then don't act like it.

False cases then, the EO didn't effect green card holders or citizens, so no, no legal residents were barred reentry.

And no one is "acting" like it. You folks like to throw the term out all willy nilly whenever someone disagrees with you. Why, just the other day someone called me a racist because I don't like a certain hair style in the military. I swear, I've seen more intolerance come out of the left than the right, especially as of late.

[Ravenwood]

I keep seeing these "you lost" statements, like "you're just mad your side lost." Last I checked we were all on the same side, the United States of America

Except were not on the same side.

How can you liberals say youre for America when youve done everything in your power in recent years to corrupt the very principles upon which this country was founded?

Im talking about blatant disrespect for our military, for our oldest allies (like Israel) for our Constitution and laws...even for God Himself.

Its not really progress when youre rolling 90mph down a hill on a collision course with a truck full of horse manure....and thats what this country is getting in liberal bastions like Detroit, southern California and Chicago.

But by all means lets continue to focus on the REALLY important matters like where less than .1 percent of the population uses the restroom.

[Allereli]

False cases then, the EO didn't effect green card holders or citizens, so no, no legal residents were barred reentry.

http://wivb.com/2017/01/30/ub-officials-at-least-one-student-unable-to-return-to-us-because-of-immigration-executive-order/

The order was struck down by the courts because it was so vague and could be applied to legal residents. You have an Olympic bronze medalist detained by Customs (http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2017/02/olympian_from_nj_says_she_was_detained_by_us_custo .html), and a NASA scientist forced to unlock his phone (http://ktla.com/2017/02/13/nasa-scientist-says-he-was-detained-at-border-forced-to-unlock-his-phone-before-entering-airport-in-houston/)

This is not okay.

If you can't stand being called a racist, maybe you should stop calling people twats, cunts, feminazis, cucks, libtards, and the like.

[Gelston]

http://wivb.com/2017/01/30/ub-officials-at-least-one-student-unable-to-return-to-us-because-of-immigration-executive-order/

The order was struck down by the courts because it was so vague and could be applied to legal residents. You have an Olympic bronze medalist detained by Customs (http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2017/02/olympian_from_nj_says_she_was_detained_by_us_custo .html), and a NASA scientist forced to unlock his phone (http://ktla.com/2017/02/13/nasa-scientist-says-he-was-detained-at-border-forced-to-unlock-his-phone-before-entering-airport-in-houston/)

This is not okay.

If you can't stand being called a racist, maybe you should stop calling people twats, cunts, feminazis, cucks, libtards, and the like.

Those aren't residents. They are guests on a VISA. Again, the EO effect 0 US Residents. It couldn't be applied to residents. It specifically mentions Green Card status and US Citizenship.

And I can stand be called a racist, if I'm actually being racist. I don't think I've ever called anyone a cuck. I'm not quite sure what that term means. Other than that, any time I've called anyone any of the other terms, it has been 100% wikipedia verifiable fact. The point is, you folks like to preach "tolerance" but that only seems to mean "If you disagree with us you are ist". That, my friend, is not tolerance.

[Tenlaar]

How can you liberals say youre for America when youve done everything in your power in recent years to corrupt the very principles upon which this country was founded?

Im talking about blatant disrespect for our military, for our oldest allies (like Israel) for our Constitution and laws...even for God Himself.

My country was not founded based on your God or on some vague principle of respect for the military. What country do you live in?

[Allereli]

Those aren't residents. They are guests on a VISA. Again, the EO effect 0 US Residents. It couldn't be applied to residents. It specifically mentions Green Card status and US Citizenship.

Those people have due process rights. Here is part of the 9th Circuit ruling:


They said the states were likely to succeed at the end of the day because Mr. Trump’s order appeared to violate the due process rights of lawful permanent residents, people holding visas and refugees.

The court said the administration’s legal position in the case had been a moving target. It noted that Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, had issued “authoritative guidance” several days after the executive order came out, saying it did not apply to lawful permanent residents. But the court said that “we cannot rely” on that statement.

“The White House counsel is not the president,” the decision said, “and he is not known to be in the chain of command for any of the executive departments.“ It also mentioned “the government’s shifting interpretations” of the executive order.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/us/politics/appeals-court-trump-travel-ban.html?_r=0

I cannot spend anymore time on this, I have work to do.

[Gelston]

Those people have due process rights. Here is part of the 9th Circuit ruling:



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/us/politics/appeals-court-trump-travel-ban.html?_r=0

I cannot spend anymore time on this, I have work to do.

You probably shouldn't spend more time. You ignorance on the issue is astounding. Go work on the GS wiki.

[Allereli]

You probably shouldn't spend more time. You ignorance on the issue is astounding. Go work on the GS wiki.

yes, my ignorance is astounding because I can read a court ruling....

I have a job, do you?

[Gelston]

yes, my ignorance is astounding because I can read a court ruling....

I have a job, do you?

But apparently not an executive order. We were discussing the EO, not the court ruling (From a court where its rulings are overturned 86% of the time when sent before the Supreme Court I might add). Imagine that.

And are you sure you have a job? You said you were going to go do it, but you haven't left to go do it.

[Allereli]

But apparently not an executive order. We were discussing the EO, not the court ruling. Imagine that.

.................................................. .................................................. ............................ The ruling upheld the stay of the EO and said why. Imagine that. Jesus man, keep grasping at straws. People have rights, POTUS tried to deny them these rights.

[Gelston]

.................................................. .................................................. ............................ The ruling upheld the stay of the EO and said why. Imagine that. Jesus man, keep grasping at straws. People have rights, POTUS tried to deny them these rights.

What straws am I grasping at. We were discussing SPECIFICALLY the EO. Not the court decision. Stop trying to move the bar.

To the original, and ONLY point: The EO did not bar legal US residents from reentry.

[Parkbandit]

If you can't stand being called a racist, maybe you should stop calling people twats, cunts, feminazis, cucks, libtards, and the like.

Calling someone a twat is not racist.
Calling someone a cunt is not racist.
Calling someone a feminazis is not racist.
Calling someone a cuck is not racist.
Calling someone libtard is not racist.

It's like you are trying for time4fun's retard belt. Not ONE of the fucking insults you came up with in your tiny little mush head is remotely about race at all.

You fucking dumb cunt libtard.

[Wrathbringer]

I keep seeing these "you lost" statements, like "you're just mad your side lost." Last I checked we were all on the same side, the United States of America, a majority of people wanted someone else to be President, and the man who did win the Electoral College was cheered on by our enemies, including Russia and North Korea.

Since taking office 3 weeks ago POTUS has continued as if he's campaigning rather than addressing the serious issues of governing. He has isolated us from our allies, tried to reinstate torture, banned legal residents from returning to the country, been feckless with sensitive security materials, tried to discredit our judicial system, among other things. Looks like we all lost, only some of you are cheering it on.

Lol you lost

[Allereli]

The EO did not bar legal US residents from reentry.

the court said it did!

[Gelston]

the court said it did!

And Donald wrote a whole new EO, zomg! As the guy running the Executive Branch and overseeing the Agencies enforcing the orders of, he would have the power to tell them how to enforce his own EO.

[Methais]

you can google to find out that information, there have been many cases, especially of students. if you don't want to be called racist misogynists, then don't act like it.

Do you honestly believe that every time, or even half the time, fuck even 10% of the time that the left throws out the racist/bigot/misogynist/everythingist /everythingphobe card that it's actually merited and not just some idiot crying wolf because that's all they know how to do?


If you can't stand being called a racist, maybe you should stop calling people twats, cunts, feminazis, cucks, libtards, and the like.

What race are twats?
What race are cunts?
What race are feminazis?
What race are cucks?
What race are libtards?

This is why nobody takes you people seriously. You don't even know the meanings of the things you accuse people of being.

[rolfard]

He would have the power to do so if he had the power to communicate, with words, his intent and his expectations and the consequences of actions/inactions in a logical intelligent fashion.

Yuge.

[Gelston]

He would have the power to do so if he had the power to communicate, with words, his intent and his expectations and the consequences of actions/inactions in a logical intelligent fashion.

Yuge.

You suck at gemstoning.

[Allereli]

And Donald wrote a whole new EO, zomg! As the guy running the Executive Branch and overseeing the Agencies enforcing the orders of, he would have the power to tell them how to enforce his own EO.

Can you please tell me which one of these is the "new" order?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

[Warriorbird]

Can you please tell me which one of these is the "new" order?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

They call it the New World Order... "new order" for short.

[Methais]

Reading the Breitbart comment section tell you that? Come to California. Even the Republicans are liberal.

Actually...



People who actually know immigrants, undocumented and otherwise, people who actually have Muslim friends, people who are related to- or friends with- LGBTQ people, people who spend their days with people who were born all over the world and who speak different languages- they're the ones who think like I do.

I hate to burst your bubble but "the ones who think like you do" are the reason that I don't like to call myself liberal any more, and you DO NOT speak for the left as an entity. I find you to be just as extreme, illogical, and vitriolic as Tgo is.

[Gelston]

Can you please tell me which one of these is the "new" order?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

Just look at the original EO...

"Suspension of Issuance of Visas and Other Immigration Benefits to Nationals of Countries of Particular Concern." Gee, is the 9th dumb? Are you? Did they even read the order? Issuance... Issuance. Hmm.. Nope, that doesn't effect current green card holders or citizens... Just people trying to be issued a Visa or a Green Card. So, nope, doesn't effect current legal residents. It clearly specifies visas about 200 times.

As for the new one, it hasn't been published yet. It is awaiting the disposition of the full 9th.

[Archigeek]

You probably shouldn't spend more time. You ignorance on the issue is astounding. Go work on the GS wiki.

Not as astounding as your lack of understanding of what a resident is. Trying to parse between the EO and the court order staying the EO is a weak argument. That's like saying "I was talking about speeding being against the law, not the fact that I got a ticket for speeding!"

The bottom line is that the order was weak, because the administration is kind of amature hour. Maybe they'll catch up and improve their ability to write, or take a bit more time and get things right.

By the way, I hope he isn't able to admit defeat and this one goes all the way to the supreme court, instead of the smart move and rewriting the order in a more narrow fashion. Some of the lowest points in our country have been when we've gone looking for some "other" to blame for some problem and proceeeded to treat them as second class citizens. Hopefully we're not entering one of those periods of time.

[Warriorbird]

Just look at the original EO...

"Suspension of Issuance of Visas and Other Immigration Benefits to Nationals of Countries of Particular Concern." Gee, is the 9th dumb? Are you? Did they even read the order? Issuance... Issuance. Hmm.. Nope, that doesn't effect current green card holders or citizens... Just people trying to be issued a Visa or a Green Card. So, nope, doesn't effect current legal residents.

As for the new one, he did write a new one, it hasn't been published yet. It is awaiting the disposition of the full 9th.

So until then its the First Order?

Where have we heard that before?

[Gelston]

So until then its the First Order?

Where have we heard that before?

Your star wars references suck.

[Gelston]

Not as astounding as your lack of understanding of what a resident is. Trying to parse between the EO and the court order staying the EO is a weak argument. That's like saying "I was talking about speeding being against the law, not the fact that I got a ticket for speeding!"

The bottom line is that the order was weak, because the administration is kind of amature hour. Maybe they'll catch up and improve their ability to write, or take a bit more time and get things right.

By the way, I hope he isn't able to admit defeat and this one goes all the way to the supreme court, instead of the smart move and rewriting the order in a more narrow fashion. Some of the lowest points in our country have been when we've gone looking for some "other" to blame for some problem and proceeeded to treat them as second class citizens. Hopefully we're not entering one of those periods of time.

A LEGAL RESIDENT is one who has a Green Card or is a Citizen. Nothing more need be said. Someone here on a Visa isn't a resident, they are a visitor or a temporary worker. Their visa expires, they go back t their home country.

Stop bringing up the court order. I was NEVER talking about the court. The court can say what the court wants. I was talking specifically about the EO and the fact that Trump DID NOT bar LEGAL RESIDENTS fro mreentry into the US.

Civilians don't know WTF Commander's Intent is I guess.

Also, you misspelled amateur. I just found that funny.

[Methais]

So until then its the First Order?

Where have we heard that before?

Are you implying that Trump is emo?

Holy fuck!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Jl8NUwCeDrs/maxresdefault.jpg

[Gelston]

I wonder when someone will pop in here and tell us to shut up because it is ruining their activity feed.

[rolfard]

"Adding to the confusion, Trump administration officials seemed to at times contradict themselves during appearances on Sunday news shows. In mere minutes during an interview with NBC, White House chief of staff Reince Priebus said the order "doesn't affect" green card holders, then later said "of course" it affects green card holders from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Yemen and Somalia -- the seven countries Trump has temporarily stop immigration from for 90 days."

Green card, resident, citizen. Good words. The best words. Yuge.

[Warriorbird]

Your star wars references suck.

Okay Matt!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x7oKe_MIai8/maxresdefault.jpg

[Gelston]

Okay Matt!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x7oKe_MIai8/maxresdefault.jpg

Why do you have pics of Latrin?

[Warriorbird]

Are you implying that Trump is emo?

Holy fuck!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Jl8NUwCeDrs/maxresdefault.jpg

Absolutely. Gelston too.

[Methais]

Absolutely. Gelston too.

WHAT THE FUCK GELSTON???

[Pin]

Are you implying that Trump is emo?

Holy fuck!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Jl8NUwCeDrs/maxresdefault.jpg

Somebody made an EMO song to his tweets since becoming president too...it was kinda funny.

Edit to add:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmEmh66SEIE

[Methais]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmEmh66SEIE



:lol:

[BigWorm]

Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html?_r=0)

Seems bad. Colored me fucking shocked, but even my clown of a senator, Roy Blunt, who probably owes his seat more than anyone else to Trump is calling for further investigations (http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article132715089.html).

[Tgo01]

Seems bad. Colored me fucking shocked, but even my clown of a senator, Roy Blunt, who probably owes his seat more than anyone else to Trump is calling for further investigations (http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article132715089.html).

That is pretty shocking. A Democrat would never call for such investigations into a fellow Democrat.

[Neveragain]

It could also blow up in Democrat faces as well.

[BigWorm]

That is pretty shocking. A Democrat would never call for such investigations into a fellow Democrat.

Is that your best defense of this? Very sad!

[Tgo01]

Is that your best defense of this? Very sad!

I don't need a defense because so far the story is; Flynn spoke with a Russian diplomat, lied about talking to said diplomats, resigned over the lies.

What defense is really needed? This isn't the next Watergate like that dipshit Dan Rather says it is.

[BigWorm]

What about the campaign contacts with Russian intelligence described in the article I linked?

[Tgo01]

What about the campaign contacts with Russian intelligence described in the article I linked?

Can you give me the cliff notes? I have a feeling I'm going to waste my time reading that link and all it's going to say is people working with the Trump campaign were in contact with Russian intelligence, most likely verified by "anonymous sources", yet no specifics were mentioned, yet the implication is Trump was working with Russian intelligence to rig the US election.

Did I get it right without clicking your link? Let me know what I got wrong.

[Androidpk]

I don't need a defense because so far the story is; Flynn spoke with a Russian diplomat, lied about talking to said diplomats, resigned over the lies.

What defense is really needed? This isn't the next Watergate like that dipshit Dan Rather says it is.

It all depends on what Flynn actually talked about.

[Tgo01]

It all depends on what Flynn actually talked about.

True. But what we know as of right now is this is very much a non story. Also I thought the FBI already investigated what he talked about and none of it was illegal? Gonna see if I can find that story.

[Tgo01]

True. But what we know as of right now is this is very much a non story. Also I thought the FBI already investigated what he talked about and none of it was illegal? Gonna see if I can find that story.

Ah ha!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-reviewed-flynns-calls-with-russian-ambassador-but-found-nothing-illicit/2017/01/23/aa83879a-e1ae-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html


The FBI in late December reviewed intercepts of communications between the Russian ambassador to the United States and retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn — national security adviser to then-President-elect Trump — but has not found any evidence of wrongdoing or illicit ties to the Russian government, U.S. officials said.

[BigWorm]

It all depends on what Flynn actually talked about.

And who directed him to do it. And when Trump and other admin officials found out about it. And why he thought he wouldn't face consequences for it. Plenty to investigate here.

[Parkbandit]

And who directed him to do it. And when Trump and other admin officials found out about it. And why he thought he wouldn't face consequences for it. Plenty to investigate here.

Not really.. unless you are a buttsore liberal who is still upset by the election 3 months ago.. and will do anything to get this election overturned.

Oh yea.. I suppose from your highchair, there is plenty to investigate.

[Neveragain]

And who directed him to do it. And when Trump and other admin officials found out about it. And why he thought he wouldn't face consequences for it. Plenty to investigate here.

Memory lane.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3RfxNJBArU&t=16s

[ClydeR]

And who directed him to do it. And when Trump and other admin officials found out about it. And why he thought he wouldn't face consequences for it. Plenty to investigate here.


You should be especially suspect of any conspiracy theories that support what you already believe.


Even as Democrats decry the false claims streaming regularly from the White House, they appear to have become more vulnerable to unsupported claims and conspiracy theories that flatter their own political prejudices. The reason isn’t just that a Republican now occupies the White House. Political psychology research suggests that losing political control can make people more vulnerable to misinformation and conspiracy theories.

More... (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/upshot/why-more-democrats-are-now-embracing-conspiracy-theories.html)

[Ravenwood]

My country was not founded based on your God or on some vague principle of respect for the military. What country do you live in?

Same country you do, perhaps you should actually read our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Learning a bit more about history and actually listening to the words of our National Anthem wouldnt hurt either.

Brave men and women died for the rights you so blithely spit upon today.

[Tenlaar]

You are using the words of a song that was written 40 years after the founding of the county, and made the national anthem more than 150 years after the founding, as an example of the goals of the founders while ignoring all of the times that they themselves said that this country was not a Christian nation, but I'm the one who needs to learn a bit more about history?

[Tgo01]

Can you give me the cliff notes? I have a feeling I'm going to waste my time reading that link and all it's going to say is people working with the Trump campaign were in contact with Russian intelligence, most likely verified by "anonymous sources", yet no specifics were mentioned, yet the implication is Trump was working with Russian intelligence to rig the US election.

Did I get it right without clicking your link? Let me know what I got wrong.

So I got around to reading your links and holy shit was I spot on or what?

[Gelston]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/15/pelosi-cummings-new-york-times-fall-victim-to-fake-twitter-account.html

That blue checkmark on verified Twitter accounts is there for a reason.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., and The New York Times learned that lesson the hard way Tuesday when all three were fooled into quoting a fake Twitter account.

The mixup arose after the resignation of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, who left the White House on Monday night after revelations that he misled Vice President Pence about a December phone call Flynn had with a Russian official. Early Tuesday morning, the account @GenMikeFlynn seemingly shared the retired lieutenant general’s thoughts on his ouster.

[Neveragain]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/15/pelosi-cummings-new-york-times-fall-victim-to-fake-twitter-account.html

That blue checkmark on verified Twitter accounts is there for a reason.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., and The New York Times learned that lesson the hard way Tuesday when all three were fooled into quoting a fake Twitter account.

The mixup arose after the resignation of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, who left the White House on Monday night after revelations that he misled Vice President Pence about a December phone call Flynn had with a Russian official. Early Tuesday morning, the account @GenMikeFlynn seemingly shared the retired lieutenant general’s thoughts on his ouster.

Beat me to it.

I have a strong suspicion this whole witch hunt is going to blow up in Democrat faces. These news sources have been busted using foreign propaganda reports as sources as well.

[BigWorm]

So I got around to reading your links and holy shit was I spot on or what?

You neglected that Trump confirmed the information as true (afaik we only classify real facts) and as coming from the US intelligence : https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/831853862281699331

http://i.imgur.com/cr3IvRk.jpg

[BigWorm]

Not really.. unless you are a buttsore liberal who is still upset by the election 3 months ago.. and will do anything to get this election overturned.

Oh yea.. I suppose from your highchair, there is plenty to investigate.

Not really sure how this would overturn the election since Mike Pence, the elected vice president, would become president? Unless you think he is implicated in this somehow and would be out too?

Serious question for ParkBandit/Tgo01/Neveragain/other Trump supporters and I am honestly trying to understand where you are coming from: Can you please explain your viewpoint on Mike Flynn's resignation? Do you acknowledge that he lied to VP Pence? Do you think that is a fireable offence? Do you think he lied about it to Trump too? Do you think he did this entirely on his own accord or instead in collaboration with other people in the administration? Do you think that the answers to these questions are important?

[Gelston]

Not really sure how this would overturn the election since Mike Pence, the elected vice president, would become president? Unless you think he is implicated in this somehow and would be out too?

Serious question for ParkBandit/Tgo01/Neveragain/other Trump supporters and I am honestly trying to understand where you are coming from: Can you please explain your viewpoint on Mike Flynn's resignation? Do you acknowledge that he lied to VP Pence? Do you think that is a fireable offence? Do you think he lied about it to Trump too? Do you think he did this entirely on his own accord or instead in collaboration with other people in the administration? Do you think that the answers to these questions are important?

I don't think there is enough information to have an opinion on the matter.

[Back]

http://i.imgur.com/GWWDJEc.png

[Gelston]

Obama let Russia take over entire parts of the Ukraine. Was Obama soft on Russia?

[Parkbandit]

Not really sure how this would overturn the election since Mike Pence, the elected vice president, would become president? Unless you think he is implicated in this somehow and would be out too?

Serious question for ParkBandit/Tgo01/Neveragain/other Trump supporters and I am honestly trying to understand where you are coming from: Can you please explain your viewpoint on Mike Flynn's resignation? Do you acknowledge that he lied to VP Pence? Do you think that is a fireable offence? Do you think he lied about it to Trump too? Do you think he did this entirely on his own accord or instead in collaboration with other people in the administration? Do you think that the answers to these questions are important?

Like normal, I usually like to wait for more details to come out before trying to give an opinion.

But thank you for jumping the gun as usual. It's extremely helpful.

[Parkbandit]

Obama let Russia take over entire parts of the Ukraine. Was Obama soft on Russia?

Was it a soft reset button or a hard one?

[BigWorm]

How are more details going to come out without an investigation?

[Tgo01]

Remember when Obama was caught on mic telling Medvedev to tell Putin he could be more "flexible" after he wins his next election? Where was the left's outrage over a sitting president colluding with Putin in such a manner? And that was more damning because we have audio proof and it's the president himself saying it, not just a bunch of nonsense speculation that isn't even from Trump himself.

[BigWorm]

Obama let Russia take over entire parts of the Ukraine. Was Obama soft on Russia?

Yes, this and Assad crossing the red line without consequences were major foreign policy disappointments

[Androidpk]

Remember when Obama was caught on mic telling Medvedev to tell Putin he could be more "flexible" after he wins his next election? Where was the left's outrage over a sitting president colluding with Putin in such a manner? And that was more damning because we have audio proof and it's the president himself saying it, not just a bunch of nonsense speculation that isn't even from Trump himself.

Remember Obama was still POTUS as the time?

[Androidpk]

Not really sure how this would overturn the election since Mike Pence, the elected vice president, would become president? Unless you think he is implicated in this somehow and would be out too?

Serious question for ParkBandit/Tgo01/Neveragain/other Trump supporters and I am honestly trying to understand where you are coming from: Can you please explain your viewpoint on Mike Flynn's resignation? Do you acknowledge that he lied to VP Pence? Do you think that is a fireable offence? Do you think he lied about it to Trump too? Do you think he did this entirely on his own accord or instead in collaboration with other people in the administration? Do you think that the answers to these questions are important?

I'm okay with him being fired over this incident. I'm more curious as to the actions of some in the intelligence community and their feelings towards Flynn. He was ousted as head of the DIA and now this.. clearly he pissed off the wrong people.

[Tgo01]

How are more details going to come out without an investigation?

What more details do you want? The FBI already said nothing illegal happened so that means case closed. Flynn didn't do anything illegal.

[BigWorm]

What more details do you want? The FBI already said nothing illegal happened so that means case closed. Flynn didn't do anything illegal.


Do you think he lied about it to Trump too? Do you think he did this entirely on his own accord or instead in collaboration with other people in the administration? Do you think that the answers to these questions are important?

I'd also like to know why Trump was notified by the DOJ that Flynn lied on Jan 26, but didn't tell Pence until Feb 9 or force Flynn's resignation until Feb 13.

[Tgo01]

I'd also like to know why Trump was notified by the DOJ that Flynn lied on Jan 26, but didn't tell Pence until Feb 9 or force Flynn's resignation until Feb 13.

But the FBI already said nothing illegal happened so case closed. We can stop talking about this now.

[Parkbandit]

I'm okay with him being fired over this incident. I'm more curious as to the actions of some in the intelligence community and their feelings towards Flynn. He was ousted as head of the DIA and now this.. clearly he pissed off the wrong people.

Yea, it's hard to tell if it this was done to fuck him over or Trump.

Don't do stupid things and you won't have to worry about getting fucked over.

[Candor]

Remember when Obama was caught on mic telling Medvedev to tell Putin he could be more "flexible" after he wins his next election? Where was the left's outrage over a sitting president colluding with Putin in such a manner? And that was more damning because we have audio proof and it's the president himself saying it, not just a bunch of nonsense speculation that isn't even from Trump himself.

haha you want unbiased thinking from the Left? You're funny :)

[Androidpk]

Yea, it's hard to tell if it this was done to fuck him over or Trump.

Don't do stupid things and you won't have to worry about getting fucked over.

I'm leaning towards it was done to fuck Flynn over and not Trump, just because Flynn has a history with this.

[Archigeek]

I don't need a defense because so far the story is; Flynn spoke with a Russian diplomat, lied about talking to said diplomats, resigned over the lies.

What defense is really needed? This isn't the next Watergate like that dipshit Dan Rather says it is.

All we really know at this point is that inteligence agencies went to the white house and said Flynn was vulnerable to blackmail. They are not suprisingly short on details; it could be anything. A lot of people are assuming it's because of this one conversation with a Russian diplomat, but that doesn't seem blackmail worthy to me. It's not the next Watergate unless evidence comes out that Trump was involved. So far no such evidence.

[Neveragain]

Just a quick reminder, Watergate hearings started in Jan. 1973 and Nixon resigned in Aug. 1974.

The idea that somehow all the ducks get lined up in a row to even start hearings and ending with a Trump resignation would somehow be a quick process is preposterous. Considering these are leaks from within our intelligence agencies and recordings took place before the election makes it even more suspicious and could lead to a huge shit pile of troubles across the board. It could easily be the next election cycle before any resignation took place.

[Warriorbird]

I highly doubt Trump will be impeached unless the Republican Party wants it. I do know certain Senators detest him though.