Clinton Foundation to restrict foreign, corporate donations if Hillary Clinton wins

[Fallen]

The Clinton Foundation announced Thursday that it would no longer accept donations from corporations or foreign entities if Hillary Clinton is elected president.

The decision comes amid mounting criticism of how the foundation operated during her tenure as secretary of state, potentially allowing donors to seek special access through her government post.
Former president Bill Clinton also announced to staff Thursday that the final meeting of the Clinton Global Initiative would be held in September in New York City, regardless of the outcome of the election.

A spokesman for the foundation confirmed the decisions, which were first reported by the Associated Press.

The moves also come amid new allegations that foundation donors may have been given favored access while Hillary Clinton ran the State Department. Republican nominee Donald Trump has been highly critical of the foundation for accepting money from foreign governments — in particular Saudi Arabia, saying the contributions undermine Clinton’s record on women’s rights.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-foundation-to-restrict-foreign-corporate-donations-if-hillary-clinton-wins/2016/08/18/af237cc8-6590-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html

Figured you guys might get a kick out of this one. It'd proooobably be more meaningful if they were to stop taking those donations now, as opposed to if/when she wins. Obviously, not taking them from the moment she declared she was running would be good, or when she took her position as Sec. State ...or when she took her position as a Senator. But, you can't change the past.

[Jarvan]

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-foundation-to-restrict-foreign-corporate-donations-if-hillary-clinton-wins/2016/08/18/af237cc8-6590-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html

Figured you guys might get a kick out of this one. It'd proooobably be more meaningful if they were to stop taking those donations now, as opposed to if/when she wins. Obviously, not taking them from the moment she declared she was running would be good, or when she took her position as Sec. State ...or when she took her position as a Senator. But, you can't change the past.

Notice it only says corporations and foreign entities. Now.. maybe I am not up on my nuanced legal wording.. but doesn't that leave it open for individuals to donate. Like if say.. Sheikh "I beat my wives" wants to give personally 100 million to Clinton. Or if they funnel it through a friend in the US, or another foundation.

Basically.. this would mean NOTHING really changes. Just an outward appearance.

[time4fun]

Notice it only says corporations and foreign entities. Now.. maybe I am not up on my nuanced legal wording.. but doesn't that leave it open for individuals to donate. Like if say.. Sheikh "I beat my wives" wants to give personally 100 million to Clinton. Or if they funnel it through a friend in the US, or another foundation.

Basically.. this would mean NOTHING really changes. Just an outward appearance.

That's because literally the only problem with the Clinton foundation is optics. i.e. outward appearances. The entire premise of the argument is: the State Department was doing direct or indirect work in over 150 countries while Clinton was SoS. The Clinton foundation (which she wasn't involved with during her time at SoS, btw) is an international charitable organization funded by donors all over the world that has billions of dollars of programming around the world aimed at improving education and health access among poor women and children around the world and battling climate change in poor countries where it's dramatically impacting quality of life for the people who live there. SO ANYTHING POSITIVE THAT HAPPENED TO ONE OF THOSE 150 COUNTRIES THAT HAPPENED TO HAVE ANY DONATIONS AT ALL TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION WAS OBVIOUSLY A PAY TO PLAY SCHEME!

I mean literally- you're arguing that Clinton's State Department was....selling influence in exchange for helping women and children get access to health and education?

Definitely super villain material. In a sea of ridiculous arguments for conspiracy theories, this one stands out as particularly stupid.

And the whole thing is just sad. How many women won't be receiving health care because of the dearth of donations that this will lead to? How many children will lose access to early education, which the Foundation has provided?

All because the right wanted to score political points by manufacturing a scandal where there was none.

[Fallen]

I would assume her husband, Bill, is pretty involved in the Foundation. Right? I would assume her Daughter, Chelsea, is also pretty involved. To say that Hillary Clinton is free of influence from this group when her husband and daughter are heavily involved in its dealings could be seen as a stretch.

That being said, in the age of Superpacs, how bad it looks that people donate to a charity rather than a superpac, which shields donors from having to publicly disclose their contributions is somewhat silly.

[Taernath]

They will probably still launder them like they did with DNC donations via local democratic parties.

[Jarvan]

That's because literally the only problem with the Clinton foundation is optics. i.e. outward appearances. The entire premise of the argument is: the State Department was doing direct or indirect work in over 150 countries while Clinton was SoS. The Clinton foundation (which she wasn't involved with during her time at SoS, btw) is an international charitable organization funded by donors all over the world that has billions of dollars of programming around the world aimed at improving education and health access among poor women and children around the world and battling climate change in poor countries where it's dramatically impacting quality of life for the people who live there. SO ANYTHING POSITIVE THAT HAPPENED TO ONE OF THOSE 150 COUNTRIES THAT HAPPENED TO HAVE ANY DONATIONS AT ALL TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION WAS OBVIOUSLY A PAY TO PLAY SCHEME!

I mean literally- you're arguing that Clinton's State Department was....selling influence in exchange for helping women and children get access to health and education?

Definitely super villain material. In a sea of ridiculous arguments for conspiracy theories, this one stands out as particularly stupid.

And the whole thing is just sad. How many women won't be receiving health care because of the dearth of donations that this will lead to? How many children will lose access to early education, which the Foundation has provided?

All because the right wanted to score political points by manufacturing a scandal where there was none.

EVERY SINGLE THING the Foundation did.. OTHER Foundations and Charities already do.

Psst.. it doesn't have Billions.

Psst Psst... She was involved with it. You can claim she wasn't that she never made any decisions, but seriously. Her Husband.. whom she may or may not sleep in the same room as, her daughter, her lawyer (Mills) her chief aide (Abedin) all worked for and had influence at the Foundation. To say that she had no clue what was going on, or that NONE of those people ever even mentioned in passing what was going is, makes you the third stupidest person on the planet.

The first two being Hillary for not knowing what is going on, how to use a PC, how to wipe a server, and that any of this was wrong.. and the American people for letting her get away with it.

[Androidpk]

I would assume her husband, Bill, is pretty involved in the Foundation. Right? I would assume her Daughter, Chelsea, is also pretty involved. To say that Hillary Clinton is free of influence from this group when her husband and daughter are heavily involved in its dealings could be seen as a stretch.

That being said, in the age of Superpacs, how bad it looks that people donate to a charity rather than a superpac, which shields donors from having to publicly disclose their contributions is somewhat silly.

Of course they're both heavily involved. Bill was the founder, as the foundation was originally set up for the purpose of his presidential library, and Chelsea is a board member.

[Androidpk]

which she wasn't involved with during her time at SoS

:lol2:

Are you really this dumb? Yes, yes you are.

[time4fun]

EVERY SINGLE THING the Foundation did.. OTHER Foundations and Charities already do.

Psst.. it doesn't have Billions.

Psst Psst... She was involved with it. You can claim she wasn't that she never made any decisions, but seriously. Her Husband.. whom she may or may not sleep in the same room as, her daughter, her lawyer (Mills) her chief aide (Abedin) all worked for and had influence at the Foundation. To say that she had no clue what was going on, or that NONE of those people ever even mentioned in passing what was going is, makes you the third stupidest person on the planet.

The first two being Hillary for not knowing what is going on, how to use a PC, how to wipe a server, and that any of this was wrong.. and the American people for letting her get away with it.

It spent billions over its lifetime actually. And no one argued that she didn't have any clue as to the existence of the charity or the fact that it does work for women and children around the globe. It's that a normal human being wouldn't stop and say "the fact that my family is so heavily involved in helping others is going to be a problem". Especially since it's actually standard fare among Presidential families.

There is literally nothing nefarious that happened, and there is no evidence suggesting there was. Building on Fallen's point- it's a REALLY sad day when SuperPACs aren't a big deal, but your family being a part of an amazing charity with an incredible international reputation for doing great work is a SCANDAL.

[time4fun]

:lol2:

Are you really this dumb? Yes, yes you are.

She wasn't on the board until after her time as SoS you tool. She specifically kept a distance from the foundation while she was SoS- which was fully appropriate.


Stop getting your information from the right wing blogopshere and FB infographics please.

[Androidpk]

She wasn't on the board until after her time as SoS you tool. She specifically kept a distance from the foundation while she was SoS- which was fully appropriate.


Stop getting your information from the right wing blogopshere and FB infographics please.


She was on board from the very start. All of her closest aids were employed and paid by the foundation (while receiving pay from the State Department). Brian Pagliano set up her private server that handled both State Department and Clinton Foundation. She met with Foundation donors while she was secretary (and had those meetings scrubbed from her official schedule).

Stop lying to yourself and pull your head out of Hillary's ass.

[Gelston]

http://russia-insider.com/sites/insider/files/hillary-clinton-thumbs-up.jpg

[Androidpk]

Lots and lots of details here for those of you actually interested in finding out about the foundation.

http://thompsontimeline.com/category/clinton-foundation/

[Fallen]

Would people say this is worse, the same, or of less consequence than politicians receiving money through superpacs? If so, why?

[Androidpk]

Would people say this is worse, the same, or of less consequence than politicians receiving money through superpacs? If so, why?

Far worse. Look at how they scammed Haiti and donors around the world out of millions of dollars.

[Jarvan]

It spent billions over its lifetime actually. And no one argued that she didn't have any clue as to the existence of the charity or the fact that it does work for women and children around the globe. It's that a normal human being wouldn't stop and say "the fact that my family is so heavily involved in helping others is going to be a problem". Especially since it's actually standard fare among Presidential families.

There is literally nothing nefarious that happened, and there is no evidence suggesting there was. Building on Fallen's point- it's a REALLY sad day when SuperPACs aren't a big deal, but your family being a part of an amazing charity with an incredible international reputation for doing great work is a SCANDAL.

LOL.

I LOVE how you keep pointing out it helps others.

If I rob a bank and give money to orphans.. I still robbed a bank.

The ONLY people Bill and Hillary care about is.. -shocking- Bill and Hillary.

This "Family" has nothing going for it other then the amount of sleaze, corruption, rape and likely Murder it did to get where it is.

Seriously.. stop trying to crawl up their ass, if you ask them nicely.. (And donate at least 250k to their foundation) they will get you a job in their next administration if they win.

[Androidpk]

Whistleblower Charles Ortel’s investigations into the operations of The Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation and its global network of affiliated “philanthropic” organizations have led him to a startling conclusion: The foundation has engaged in, and continues to engage in, massive fraud and illegal conduct.

Since May, Ortel has been spelling out in great detail how a project chartered initially to build a presidential library and research facility in Arkansas, President Clinton’s home state, illegally was morphed into a global pseudo-philanthropic conglomerate that raked in billions of dollars, ostensibly to support the foundation’s “charity” work. But Ortel says the evidence clearly shows the foundation was operating almost all of its projects illegally, and many major “donations” it received were from foreign governments and well-placed corporations seeking political favors from the Clintons.

The “developing world” has been, and still is, a billion-dollar bonanza for the Clintons’ coffers, says Ortel. Often besieged by humanitarian crises, the international community responds generously to countries in dire need. The Clintons, who keep watchful eyes on countries’ misery index, find ingenious ways to corral sizable portions of available humanitarian cash.

http://prn.fm/leid-stories-twisted-philanthropy-how-the-clintons-and-the-clinton-foundation-made-billions-mining-the-worlds-misery-index-08-18-16/

[Androidpk]

In before time4fun says Charles Ortel has been heavily discredited by Brian Fallon and David Brock.

[Jarvan]

I just wonder what it would take for Time4fun to admit that the Clinton's and specifically Hillary are lying, cheating, stealing, dirty, disgusting politicians.

I don't even think if Hillary Admitted it, Time4fun would. She would likely say that it's just how the game is played, and Republicans do it too.

[Androidpk]

Charles Ortel just gave me his email address to schedule an AMA :D *happy dance*

[Parkbandit]

That's because literally the only problem with the Clinton foundation is optics. i.e. outward appearances. The entire premise of the argument is: the State Department was doing direct or indirect work in over 150 countries while Clinton was SoS. The Clinton foundation (which she wasn't involved with during her time at SoS, btw) is an international charitable organization funded by donors all over the world that has billions of dollars of programming around the world aimed at improving education and health access among poor women and children around the world and battling climate change in poor countries where it's dramatically impacting quality of life for the people who live there. SO ANYTHING POSITIVE THAT HAPPENED TO ONE OF THOSE 150 COUNTRIES THAT HAPPENED TO HAVE ANY DONATIONS AT ALL TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION WAS OBVIOUSLY A PAY TO PLAY SCHEME!

I mean literally- you're arguing that Clinton's State Department was....selling influence in exchange for helping women and children get access to health and education?

Definitely super villain material. In a sea of ridiculous arguments for conspiracy theories, this one stands out as particularly stupid.

And the whole thing is just sad. How many women won't be receiving health care because of the dearth of donations that this will lead to? How many children will lose access to early education, which the Foundation has provided?

All because the right wanted to score political points by manufacturing a scandal where there was none.

God.. never, ever leave us.

You have the trinity of traits that make these political boards entertaining for most of us.

Willful ignorance
Naiveté
Common stupidity

I used to think this was an alt account like ClydeR, just from the opposing aisle.. but you honestly believe what you post.

Which is like 10000x better.

THANK YOU!

[Androidpk]

You're just jealous because she has 2 degrees in women studies and makes more money than you.

[time4fun]

I just wonder what it would take for Time4fun to admit that the Clinton's and specifically Hillary are lying, cheating, stealing, dirty, disgusting politicians.

I don't even think if Hillary Admitted it, Time4fun would. She would likely say that it's just how the game is played, and Republicans do it too.

Um Evidence from a credible news source would be an excellent start.

And an argument that isn't parallel to "I got a couch last summer. My friend died last summer. Therefore my couch must be responsible for my friend's death".

[time4fun]

You're just jealous because she has 2 degrees in women studies and makes more money than you.

You forgot to mention that I base my arguments on facts from credible news sources. Also a huge point of differentiation.

[Tgo01]

I don't get it, if the Foundation is totally legit and they really are using all of the money for charity purposes and are dedicated to helping women or whatever bullshit purpose they claim the foundation is for....why are they refusing money from anyone?

What's the big deal? It's all legit, there are no favors here, no quid pro quo.

But I'm sure the our resident Democrat is already busy in here defending the shit out of this.

[Jarvan]

You forgot to mention that I base my arguments on facts from credible news sources. Also a huge point of differentiation.

Well... the only way to prove the pay to play... would be to have the 30,000 emails she deleted. Or to have someone highly involved with it speak out... and like Mills (Who started her own company to get rich off Clinton) and Abedin (who has nothing in her life other then a sad wiener if she left Hillary) no one will cross the Clintons.. or they may die while weightlifting at 4 am.... or get shot twice in the back in a mugging.. where the muggers took nothing.

[Androidpk]

You forgot to mention that I base my arguments on facts from credible news sources. Also a huge point of differentiation.

lolbrianfallon

[time4fun]

Well... the only way to prove the pay to play... would be to have the 30,000 emails she deleted. Or to have someone highly involved with it speak out... and like Mills (Who started her own company to get rich off Clinton) and Abedin (who has nothing in her life other then a sad wiener if she left Hillary) no one will cross the Clintons.. or they may die while weightlifting at 4 am.... or get shot twice in the back in a mugging.. where the muggers took nothing.

That line of reasoning only works if you have started from the premise that she is guilty of something. (which is why you people keep falling for this conspiracy crap again and again- it's your own confirmation bias)

The actual way to approach this is to say that the only reason to suspect anything nefarious was going on would be if there were actually any evidence of it to begin with. And given how thoroughly she has been "investigated", the fact that there's nothing should be a clue that you're barking up the wrong tree, not evidence that she's a super villain who has managed to mask her horrible ways so effectively that there's literally not a shred of evidence for any personal benefit (except more orphans had vaccines- that monster) nor any quid pro quo.

[time4fun]

lolbrianfallon

I assume you're referring to the time I quoted a State Department official in the 2nd or third sentence of a paragraph, but you were too lazy to read past the first sentence that quoted Fallon?

Seems pretty indicative of your research methods on the whole.

[Androidpk]

You've used Fallon as a source multiple times. You're quite the angsty person aren't you? Can never make a comment without trying to insult someone.

[Gelston]

You're just jealous because she has 2 degrees in women studies and makes more money than you.

I thought it was 3 and she made more than 10 of us?

[Jarvan]

That line of reasoning only works if you have started from the premise that she is guilty of something. (which is why you people keep falling for this conspiracy crap again and again- it's your own confirmation bias)

The actual way to approach this is to say that the only reason to suspect anything nefarious was going on would be if there were actually any evidence of it to begin with. And given how thoroughly she has been "investigated", the fact that there's nothing should be a clue that you're barking up the wrong tree, not evidence that she's a super villain who has managed to mask her horrible ways so effectively that there's literally not a shred of evidence for any personal benefit (except more orphans had vaccines- that monster) nor any quid pro quo.

She is a Politician... of COURSE she is guilty of something. Hence why she HAD a private server, and refused on multiple occasions to use Gov servers.

Actually.. there was lots. The FBI didn't have balls, and knew it would never go to trial, so why bother. he even said she Lied under oath about not all the work emails turned over, and that there WAS classified info.

But no.. I forget.. Hillary and Bill have never done anything wrong. they are the ONLY ~2~ Politicians in the world to be squeaky clean.

You are the reason why Dem controlled cities are the toilet bowl of the US.

[Jarvan]

I thought it was 3 and she made more than 10 of us?

It's 2, and she lives in San fran I think and hence makes more then all of us combined.

[Androidpk]

I thought it was 3 and she made more than 10 of us?

More money than all of us combined, Kranar included!

[Fallen]

More money than all of us combined, Kranar included!

To be fair, Kranar gets paid in Canada money, so it largely doesn't count. I mean, just look at it.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1486542/images/o-WAGES-CANADA-facebook.jpg

[Parkbandit]

You're just jealous because she has 2 degrees in women studies and makes more money than you.

See... now I'm back to thinking it's a troll account.

[Androidpk]

The Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI), the Clinton foundation’s flagship project, may chose to ignore the organization’s recent decision to stop accepting money from foreign governments and cooperations.

“CHAI is a separate legal entity from the Clinton Foundation with its own Board,” CHAI spokeswoman Regan Lachapelle told (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-idUSKCN10U23Y) Reuters on Friday. “The CHAI Board will be meeting soon to determine its next steps.”
The Massachusetts-based organization, founded in 2002, is the largest program of the Clinton Foundation. It accounted for nearly 60 percent of the $250 million the Clinton Foundation spent in 2014.

CHAI may be a “separate legal entity” from the Clinton’s New York City-based charity, but it’s budget is included in the Clinton Foundation’s annual audited expenses, yearly reports, and is listed under “affiliated entities (https://www.clintonfoundation.org/our-work/clinton-health-access-initiative)” on the Clinton Foundation website.

Another Clinton Foundation initiative set to ignore the foreign donations ban is the Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership (CGEP).
“If Secretary Clinton wins the election, we plan to spin CGEP into an independent entity to continue this important work,” CGEP co-founder Frank Giustra, who founded the Canada-based organization with Bill Clinton in 2007, said (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-idUSKCN10U23Y) Friday.

“President Clinton and I believe it is important that we continue the work of alleviating poverty around the world.”

Giustra is the multi-million dollar Clinton Foundation donor (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0) and Canadian mining magnate who — along with Bill Clinton’s global connections and Hillary Clinton’s State Department — helped facilitate (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/25/timeline-timeline-bill-clintons-trip-to-kazakhstan-followed-by-windfall-for-clinton-foundation/) the transfer of 20 percent of the United States’ uranium supply to the Russian government (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html), a revelation that first appeared in The New York Times bestselling book Clinton Cash (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1621575454/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1621575454&linkCode=as2&tag=breitbart035-20&linkId=d2c58e8d38b652de57e7847d6f28306a),authored by Breitbart News Senior Editor-at-Large Peter Schweizer.

[Androidpk]

Hillary told people that wanted to help out LA flood victims they could donate to American Red Cross and the Baton Rouge Area Foundation. Not surprisingly the latter has ties to the Clinton Foundation.

[Androidpk]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqm5FwmW8AAKNF5.jpg:large