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time4fun
07-27-2016, 02:50 PM
DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said Wednesday that he hoped Russia had hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, essentially encouraging an adversarial foreign power’s cyberspying on a secretary of state’s correspondence.
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said, staring directly into the cameras during a press conference. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Mr. Trump’s call was an extraordinary moment at a time when Russia is being accused of meddling in the U.S. presidential election. His comments came amid questions about the hacking of the Democratic National Committee’s computer servers, which American intelligence agencies have told the White House they have “high confidence” was the work of the Russian government. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-national-convention-obama-biden-kaine-set-to-tout-clinton-as-commander-in-chief/2016/07/27/afc57884-53e8-11e6-bbf5-957ad17b4385_story.html)
Holy shit. He just told a foreign government to illegally hack into the emails of someone running for President and encouraged them to influence a U.S. election.
Gelston
07-27-2016, 02:52 PM
Yes, hack into the emails of a server that is no longer in existence and emails that are said to just be gone.
time4fun
07-27-2016, 02:53 PM
Yes, hack into the emails of a server that is no longer in existence and emails that are said to just be gone.
You need to take off your angry conservative hat and put on your rational citizen hat.
He just invited Russia to change the course of a US election **days after the US intelligence agencies discovered strong evidence that they were doing exactly that**
Androidpk
07-27-2016, 02:54 PM
You need to take off your angry conservative hat and put on your rational citizen hat.
He just invited Russia to change the course of a US election **days after the US intelligence agencies discovered strong evidence that they were doing exactly that**
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz6W0znOfk
Gelston
07-27-2016, 02:54 PM
You need to take off your angry conservative hat and put on your rational citizen hat.
He just invited Russia to change the course of a US election **days after the US intelligence agencies discovered strong evidence that they were doing exactly that**
That reply makes 0 sense. You are grasping at shit that isn't there. He was talking about the 30,000 emails that were on Hillary's private server that have vanished. It isn't possible to hack that server, because it isn't connected to anything anymore. The emails are jsut gone. If the Russians DO have it, that means... GASP... they got them years ago.
Gelston
07-27-2016, 02:56 PM
BTW, the Democrats are doing a good enough job fucking themselves up, don't need the Russians to change the course of the election.
Androidpk
07-27-2016, 02:57 PM
He just invited Russia to change the course of a US election
As opposed to hillary working hand in hand with the dnc to subvert the democratic election. You are a dumb cunt.
Androidpk
07-27-2016, 02:58 PM
Don't you love the hypocrisy though? Just weeks ago they claimed her server was private and kept no confidential emails, so basically just a private server and private email. Now when the madman asks for hackers to release those emails, which the previous aforementioned people claimed had no confidential information, they call it "treason." LMAO. You can't have it both ways dummies! YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP FOLKS
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Androidpk
07-27-2016, 03:01 PM
As soon as Trump ended his Press Conference, the NY Times was publishing headlines saying Trump called on Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's emails.
Well, Hillary Clinton's server is likely in an evidence locker in Quantico. I am going to go out on a limb and say that it is not plugged in and connected to the internet.
Anything that Russia releases would be something they already possess, meaning they would have had to have stolen information while Hillary's server was operational.
Here's the Catch-22. If Hillary Clinton is telling the truth and she only deleted emails pertaining to yoga lessons and Chelsea Clinton's wedding, then Russia hacking that information is purely a civil matter. It would be nothing but a foreign government hacking a private citizen.
But if Hillary Clinton lied... if she violated the Federal Records Act and destroyed government documents that she had an obligation to preserve... if she violated the Espionage Act and removed classified information from a secure environment, making it available for foreign hackers to steal... then anything Russia puts forward would be evidence of Hillary Clinton committing a crime.
So which is it, Mainstream Media? Is Hillary Clinton innocent of wrongdoing and Russia hacking her is largely a civil matter and one to be left to local law enforcement? Or is this prospect of Russia releasing Hillary's emails a threat to national security?
You can't have it both ways.
+1
Tgo01
07-27-2016, 03:03 PM
He just invited Russia to change the course of a US election **days after the US intelligence agencies discovered strong evidence that they were doing exactly that**
Why do people keep focusing on where the source comes from?
If Hillary's emails proves what a corrupt worthless bitch she is (and she is) then why does it matter where the emails come from? We obviously can't rely on our own government to do shit about it (Obama and any department he controls isn't going to do shit, the FBI were our best bet and they pussied out), if anyone in this country does anything about it they will be sent to prison forever.
Are Democrats perhaps getting scared now that Trump has started to tie and in some cases surpass Hillary in the polls?
Androidpk
07-27-2016, 03:04 PM
Why do people keep focusing on where the source comes from?
If Hillary's emails proves what a corrupt worthless bitch she is (and she is) then why does it matter where the emails come from? We obviously can't rely on our own government to do shit about it (Obama and any department he controls isn't going to do shit, the FBI were our best bet and they pussied out), if anyone in this country does anything about it they will be sent to prison forever.
Are Democrats perhaps getting scared now that Trump has started to tie and in some cases surpass Hillary in the polls?
But but but butt the russians are coming for our freedoms!
Gelston
07-27-2016, 03:05 PM
Yeah, fucking Russians hacking email servers and created emails which they then give to WikiLeaks to make the DNC look bad.
Fallen
07-27-2016, 03:10 PM
Yeah, fucking Russians hacking email servers and created emails which they then give to WikiLeaks to make the DNC look bad.
Have there been any specific claims about particular emails being fabricated?
Gelston
07-27-2016, 03:11 PM
Have there been any specific claims about particular emails being fabricated?
Oh wait, no... All the e-mails were actually created by DNC officials.
Androidpk
07-27-2016, 03:25 PM
Hillary sells Russia a huge stake in US uranium production, no big deal.
Trump encourages Russia to leak Hillary's deleted emails, OMG he's a traitor to the US!
Parkbandit
07-27-2016, 03:56 PM
DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said Wednesday that he hoped Russia had hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, essentially encouraging an adversarial foreign power’s cyberspying on a secretary of state’s correspondence.
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said, staring directly into the cameras during a press conference. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Mr. Trump’s call was an extraordinary moment at a time when Russia is being accused of meddling in the U.S. presidential election. His comments came amid questions about the hacking of the Democratic National Committee’s computer servers, which American intelligence agencies have told the White House they have “high confidence” was the work of the Russian government. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-national-convention-obama-biden-kaine-set-to-tout-clinton-as-commander-in-chief/2016/07/27/afc57884-53e8-11e6-bbf5-957ad17b4385_story.html)
Holy shit. He just told a foreign government to illegally hack into the emails of someone running for President and encouraged them to influence a U.S. election.
Holy shit. You honestly are one of the dumbest people on the Internet... unless you believe that Russia has some sort of time machine that they can use to get those deleted emails back.
But seriously, keep on herpin' and derpin' and making us all thankful we didn't eat lead based paint like you obviously did.
Archigeek
07-27-2016, 05:19 PM
You can bet that it's likely that the Russians did hack her server, or at least tried, (and it's hard for me to imagine that they tried and failed), so they MIGHT have any emails that haven't been shared. On other hand, I doubt there's much to see, and more importantly, why would the Russians see it as in their interest to release them at this time? If they have them, and there's dirt in them, they would be smart to hang onto the dirt on the likely future president.
As for the "uproar" over this statement by Trump, it's just stupidity on both sides. Trump is trying to fan the "distrust Hillary" flames, but is inadvertently lending credence to the idea that Russians are the ones who hacked the DNC and released the emails. Why lend credence to the DNC's idiotic cover story? Meanwhile, the Dem's are all in a tizzy because Trump is suggesting to a foreign power that it should hack.... yada yada yada. This is all bullshit on both sides, and a nice snap shot of what we can probably expect to see for the next 3 months. Yay us.
Parkbandit
07-27-2016, 06:04 PM
You can bet that it's likely that the Russians did hack her server, or at least tried, (and it's hard for me to imagine that they tried and failed), so they MIGHT have any emails that haven't been shared. On other hand, I doubt there's much to see, and more importantly, why would the Russians see it as in their interest to release them at this time? If they have them, and there's dirt in them, they would be smart to hang onto the dirt on the likely future president.
As for the "uproar" over this statement by Trump, it's just stupidity on both sides. Trump is trying to fan the "distrust Hillary" flames, but is inadvertently lending credence to the idea that Russians are the ones who hacked the DNC and released the emails. Why lend credence to the DNC's idiotic cover story? Meanwhile, the Dem's are all in a tizzy because Trump is suggesting to a foreign power that it should hack.... yada yada yada. This is all bullshit on both sides, and a nice snap shot of what we can probably expect to see for the next 3 months. Yay us.
She had very rudimentary "security" on her server... I would be very surprised if everyone didn't have full access at one time or another.
Wesley
07-27-2016, 06:05 PM
She had very rudimentary "security" on her server... I would be very surprised if everyone didn't have full access at one time or another.
Why don't you go ahead and tell us how you personally would have "hacked" her server, since you consider yourself informed enough about computer security to call what she had "security".
Tgo01
07-27-2016, 06:07 PM
Hillary's server was guarded by the Secret Service, no way the Russians got into it.
Whirlin
07-27-2016, 06:08 PM
Why don't you go ahead and tell us how you personally would have "hacked" her server, since you consider yourself informed enough about computer security to call what she had "security".
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Parkbandit
07-27-2016, 06:08 PM
Why don't you go ahead and tell us how you personally would have "hacked" her server, since you consider yourself informed enough about computer security to call what she had "security".
You mean with a cloth?
Wesley
07-27-2016, 06:10 PM
https://gaspull-geeksaresexytech.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/computer_bomb.jpg
Fixed that for you.
Jarvan
07-27-2016, 07:15 PM
Why don't you go ahead and tell us how you personally would have "hacked" her server, since you consider yourself informed enough about computer security to call what she had "security".
Remember that time there was that email that said that Hillary's Server didn't even have security software..... pepperidge farm does.
Gnomad
07-27-2016, 07:45 PM
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Latrinsorm
07-27-2016, 08:03 PM
As soon as Trump ended his Press Conference, the NY Times was publishing headlines saying Trump called on Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's emails.
Well, Hillary Clinton's server is likely in an evidence locker in Quantico. I am going to go out on a limb and say that it is not plugged in and connected to the internet.
Anything that Russia releases would be something they already possess, meaning they would have had to have stolen information while Hillary's server was operational.
Here's the Catch-22. If Hillary Clinton is telling the truth and she only deleted emails pertaining to yoga lessons and Chelsea Clinton's wedding, then Russia hacking that information is purely a civil matter. It would be nothing but a foreign government hacking a private citizen.
But if Hillary Clinton lied... if she violated the Federal Records Act and destroyed government documents that she had an obligation to preserve... if she violated the Espionage Act and removed classified information from a secure environment, making it available for foreign hackers to steal... then anything Russia puts forward would be evidence of Hillary Clinton committing a crime.
So which is it, Mainstream Media? Is Hillary Clinton innocent of wrongdoing and Russia hacking her is largely a civil matter and one to be left to local law enforcement? Or is this prospect of Russia releasing Hillary's emails a threat to national security?
You can't have it both ways.I don't think "local law enforcement" are equipped to handle international cybersecurity threats to a Presidential candidate, and I don't think pointing that out has anything to do with the content of the emails.
Are Democrats perhaps getting scared now that Trump has started to tie and in some cases surpass Hillary in the polls?Naw, noted Democratic shill Nate Silver still has her as the favorite. Electoral college, convention bounce, etc.
Tgo01
07-27-2016, 08:12 PM
Naw, noted Democratic shill Nate Silver still has her as the favorite. Electoral college, convention bounce, etc.
Oh yeah, what happened last time Nate Silver decided to ignore all polls and go by his gut?
Warriorbird
07-27-2016, 08:42 PM
Oh yeah, what happened last time Nate Silver decided to ignore all polls and go by his gut?
Because history is somehow determined by something that just about everybody else missed too and he totally didn't point out his mistake (in a remarkably different way than some folks around here when their predictions fail.)
Tgo01
07-27-2016, 09:16 PM
Because history is somehow determined by something that just about everybody else missed too and he totally didn't point out his mistake (in a remarkably different way than some folks around here when their predictions fail.)
Yeah, he waited until literally everybody dropped out before he "admitted" his mistake. Up until the last person dropped out he was still saying "Nope, no way Trump is going to be the nominee. Nope nope. Don't worry guys. Guys? Don't worry."
He's worthless at this point. He probably actually thought he was the reason Obama was reelected and he thought he could somehow sway popular opinion on Trump. He was wrong then and he's still wrong.
Admitting you're wrong after the fact means jack shit. He flat out admitted he ignored poll data, probably because that would get in the way of his political view. And here people are, still acting like the guy can do no wrong.
Warriorbird
07-27-2016, 09:21 PM
Yeah, he waited until literally everybody dropped out before he "admitted" his mistake. Up until the last person dropped out he was still saying "Nope, no way Trump is going to be the nominee. Nope nope. Don't worry guys. Guys? Don't worry."
He's worthless at this point. He probably actually thought he was the reason Obama was reelected and he thought he could somehow sway popular opinion on Trump. He was wrong then and he's still wrong.
Admitting you're wrong after the fact means jack shit. He flat out admitted he ignored poll data, probably because that would get in the way of his political view. And here people are, still acting like the guy can do no wrong.
Hmm.
Seems to me more like you're jealous because another pedantic data type is more well liked.
So you're pointing your finger and jumping up and down because conservative media has fed you a talking point.
drauz
07-27-2016, 09:21 PM
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Tgo01
07-27-2016, 09:23 PM
Hmm.
Seems to me more like you're jealous because another pedantic data type is more well liked.
So you're pointing your finger and jumping up and down because conservative media has fed you a talking point.
Okay.
Latrinsorm
07-27-2016, 09:24 PM
Oh yeah, what happened last time Nate Silver decided to ignore all polls and go by his gut?That has never happened.
He flat out admitted he ignored poll dataThis is not accurate.
Tgo01
07-27-2016, 09:25 PM
That has never happened.
Uh, yes it did.
This is not accurate.
Uh, yes he did.
Latrinsorm
07-27-2016, 09:26 PM
Uh, yes it did. Uh, yes he did.Quote it.
Gelston
07-27-2016, 09:33 PM
it.
Quoted
Tgo01
07-27-2016, 09:50 PM
Quote it.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
Shit, the title is literally: "How I Acted Like A Pundit And Screwed Up On Donald Trump"
I can't even bold the word "pundit" enough to make my point so I won't try. I'll just say it again. Pundit.
our early estimates of Trump’s chances weren’t based on a statistical model. Instead, they were what we “subjective odds” — which is to say, educated guesses.
Mark your calendars everyone. July 27th, 2016, the day Latrin's world was turned upside down.
drauz
07-27-2016, 09:56 PM
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
Shit, the title is literally: "How I Acted Like A Pundit And Screwed Up On Donald Trump"
I can't even bold the word "pundit" enough to make my point so I won't try. I'll just say it again. Pundit.
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Latrinsorm
07-27-2016, 09:56 PM
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
Shit, the title is literally: "How I Acted Like A Pundit And Screwed Up On Donald Trump"
I can't even bold the word "pundit" enough to make my point so I won't try. I'll just say it again. Pundit.
Mark your calendars everyone. July 27th, 2016, the day Latrin's world was turned upside down.I already linked this article. At no point does he "admit" to ignoring polls; in fact he specifically cites polls throughout the process and explains why they have not been historically reliable. It is an absurd straw man that people of your ilk construct that a person who makes (very successful) use of certain polls in certain contexts always has to agree with every poll in every context. Good day sir.
I SAID GOOD DAY
Tgo01
07-27-2016, 09:59 PM
I already linked this article. At no point does he "admit" to ignoring polls; in fact he specifically cites polls throughout the process and explains why they have not been historically reliable. It is an absurd straw man that people of your ilk construct that a person who makes (very successful) use of certain polls in certain contexts always has to agree with every poll in every context. Good day sir.
I SAID GOOD DAY
You already linked and read that article? Great. How did you miss this part then?
And we succumbed to some of the same biases that pundits often suffer, such as not changing our minds quickly enough in the face of new evidence.
Not changing his mind quickly enough in the face of new evidence...
Ignoring poll data...
Sure sounds like the same thing to me.
Latrin, face it. You lost. Badly. So badly your great grandchildren are going to feel it so badly that they will smack their grandchildren and the cycle will never end.
Latrinsorm
07-27-2016, 10:24 PM
Not changing his mind quickly enough in the face of new evidence...
Ignoring poll data...
Sure sounds like the same thing to me.I'm not surprised. You think that if people don't agree with your conclusion they're ignoring your reasons. This is not the case in general, and it is not the case here.
Tgo01
07-27-2016, 10:25 PM
I'm not surprised. You think that if people don't agree with your conclusion they're ignoring your reasons. This is not the case in general, and it is not the case here.
Are you speaking in tongues or something? Because this post made no sense considering the context and discussion at hand.
Good day sir.
I SAID GOOD DAY!
Shaps
07-28-2016, 01:54 AM
All the people blindly for Hillary.. should just start lubing up now. Cause she's about to put on the strap-on and go balls deep in that ass.
Warriorbird
07-28-2016, 01:58 AM
All the people blindly for Hillary.. should just start lubing up now. Cause she's about to put on the strap-on and go balls deep in that ass.
If she wins my only expectations are vetoing and not putting Roberts or Scalia clones on the Supreme Court. I'm not aiming high.
Androidpk
07-28-2016, 02:18 AM
I'm not aiming high.
Clearly.
GS4Pirate
07-28-2016, 02:24 AM
Are you speaking in tongues or something? Because this post made no sense considering the context and discussion at hand.
Good day sir.
I SAID GOOD DAY!
Did Latrin sell his players corner account? He seems to be really of his game lately.
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