Democratic convention 2016

[Androidpk]

game over man

[Androidpk]

Anyone read the latest DNC leaked e-mails? Nothing crazy so far other than DWS being a complete cunt towards Sanders and his campaign and especially Mika Brzezinski, god dows DWS hate her. Can't wait to see the next morning show.


Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz was so furious with Mika Brzezinski after the MSNBC “Morning Joe” co-host called on her to resign as chair of the Democratic National Committee back in May that she ordered her deputy to complain to Phil Griffin, the head of the cable network.
The fascinating exchange, which also includes irate emails from Wasserman Schultz to NBC political director Chuck Todd, were released on Friday by WikiLeaks.

[Androidpk]

It might make no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.



Yeah, DNC actively working to hurt Sanders campaign. Pay no attention to this!

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7643

"She's forced to continue to appeal to young liberals as opposed to pivoting back to center"



"Yes, Super PAC paying young voters to push back online on Sanders supporters"



"Clinton Foundation quid-pro-quo worries are lingering, will be exploited in general "

@washingtonpost and the DNC hosting joint "unlisted" fundraising party.

The DNC and Hillary Campaign directly coordinated on messaging for the Hillary Victory Fund.

Constructing an anti-'Bernie narrative

[Androidpk]

I cannot wait for the first general election debate. If Hillary is still in the game Trump is going to shred her to pieces.

[Tgo01]

Don't you go telling truths about time4fun's candidate!!!!

[Fallen]

I actually saw a Hillary lawn sign for the first time the other day. Still haven't met an ardent Hillary supporter IRL, though. Just people who'll vote for her because she isn't Trump.

[Taernath]

I actually saw a Hillary lawn sign for the first time the other day. Still haven't met an ardent Hillary supporter IRL, though. Just people who'll vote for her because she isn't Trump.

I know a couple family members who were 100% behind her from the start, but they are definitely the minority. The rest of my Democrat friends/family wanted Sanders.

[Latrinsorm]

I cannot wait for the first general election debate. If Hillary is still in the gameOh Andy. Time to give that one up, I think.

[kutter]

I know a couple family members who were 100% behind her from the start, but they are definitely the minority. The rest of my Democrat friends/family wanted Sanders.

My brother has 4 girls, all are ardent Democrats, the apple fell far from the tree there, anyway, all 4 were Sanders supporters and all 4 have said they are not voting for a Presidential candidate this go round. If that is the case for others, HRC might be having some problems come November because there is NOTHING she can say that will sway those 4. Are they indicative of a larger issue she has?

[Androidpk]

Oh Andy. Time to give that one up, I think.

haha

[~Rocktar~]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn3wxcJXgAIfICe.jpg

. . . to be in prison.

[Androidpk]

My brother has 4 girls, all are ardent Democrats, the apple fell far from the tree there, anyway, all 4 were Sanders supporters and all 4 have said they are not voting for a Presidential candidate this go round. If that is the case for others, HRC might be having some problems come November because there is NOTHING she can say that will sway those 4. Are they indicative of a larger issue she has?


NYT/CBS Poll: Hillary's Untrustworthy Rating Soars to 67 Percent
As we await the official rollout of Donald Trump's Vice Presidential pick (postponed by the terrorist attack in Nice, France), let's take a gander at two new national polls -- one of which Leah hit (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2016/07/14/new-poll-has-trump-clinton-in-dead-heat-nationally-n2192671) yesterday. A New York Times/CBS News survey confirms a trend we've been covering (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/07/13/wisconsin-pollstates-trendryan-on-hillary-n2192276) all week: As Americans digest the spectacle of Hillary Clinton's email scandal claims getting dismantled (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/07/06/analysis-the-fbi-directors-devastating-indictmentless-indictment-of-hillary-clinton-n2188349) by the FBI, her support has dropped noticeably. Over the course of four months, Clinton's standing has fallen from a ten-point lead to an exact tie, with Trump's level of support barely budging:


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/07/15/nytcbs-poll-hillarys-untrustworthy-rating-soars-to-67-percent-n2192807

[Taernath]

My brother has 4 girls, all are ardent Democrats, the apple fell far from the tree there, anyway, all 4 were Sanders supporters and all 4 have said they are not voting for a Presidential candidate this go round. If that is the case for others, HRC might be having some problems come November because there is NOTHING she can say that will sway those 4. Are they indicative of a larger issue she has?

Could be. On the other hand, both my parents who have voted Republican since Goldwater have said they'd vote for Sanders if he got the nomination because they don't like Trump. I'll have to ask them if anything's changed now that Pence is in it.

I think it's going to come down to voting for who you dislike the least for this election.

[Tgo01]

Hey after Hillary's vice president pick today at least one thing is for sure; no matter who wins the tradition of having an old, white, male, political insider for vice president will still be going strong.

[Androidpk]

sanders speech should be very interesting

[Jarvan]

It's funny... GOP should run an add about the VP pick.

"Hillary didn't want the best person for VP... she wanted a Senator from a State with a Dem Gov so they could keep a senate seat. A vote for Hillary is a Vote for someone who cares more about her party, then you."

[Warriorbird]

I'm down with Tim Kaine. He was one of the voices keeping Obama from nonsensical gun control stuff for quite a while.

[Androidpk]

I'm down with Tim Kaine. He was one of the voices keeping Obama from nonsensical gun control stuff for quite a while.


you're down with a lot of shit

[Parkbandit]

sanders speech should be very interesting


Especially since Sanders "crazy" claims of the Democrats trying to fuck him over at every turn during the campaign.. and the emails proving it was true.

[Parkbandit]

I'm down with Tim Kaine. He was one of the voices keeping Obama from nonsensical gun control stuff for quite a while.

I think Kaine was the safe pick.. and since he's pretty free from scandals.. she could use someone sort of honestish as her VP.

I do believe the far left won't like him much though, given his stances on abortion, Wall Street, guns, etc...

[Gelston]

I actually saw a Hillary lawn sign for the first time the other day. Still haven't met an ardent Hillary supporter IRL, though. Just people who'll vote for her because she isn't Trump.

I know two IRL. This is Louisiana, the majority of the people around me are Republican for national issues, though we do go Democrat sometimes for city and state stuff.

[Warriorbird]

you're down with a lot of shit

So what exactly is your issue with Kaine other than he's agreed to be Hillary's VP?

I think it would've been Castro other than the fundraising scandal.

[Wrathbringer]

So what exactly is your issue with Kaine other than he's agreed to be Hillary's VP?

Just that poor judgement alone should be enough to "indict" him. See what I did there?

[Warriorbird]

Just that poor judgement alone should be enough to "indict" him. See what I did there?

I'd rather it be him than Debbie Wasserman Schultz. I think most of the rest of you will too if Hillary wins.

[Androidpk]

So what exactly is your issue with Kaine other than he's agreed to be Hillary's VP?

I think it would've been Castro other than the fundraising scandal.

.

[ClydeR]

Based on Kaine's speech today, I'm starting to wonder if I will need an interpreter to watch the convention.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejj0L9N-h7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejj0L9N-h7Q

[Parkbandit]

Based on Kaine's speech today, I'm starting to wonder if I will need an interpreter to watch the convention.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejj0L9N-h7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejj0L9N-h7Q


It's called pandering. It's just like Hillary when she is down south she has a southern accent.. but when she's in NY, it's completely gone.

[Androidpk]

The media couldn't stop fingerblasting the Melania speech story but DNC leaks? Crickets.

[Androidpk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gpjp7nXAWk

[Parkbandit]

The media couldn't stop fingerblasting the Melania speech story but DNC leaks? Crickets.

Wait.. this is a surprise to you?

[Androidpk]

no

[Androidpk]

Clinton Cash out tonight.

[Androidpk]

Debbie Wasserman Schultz lost her speaking slot :)

[Warriorbird]

Debbie Wasserman Schultz lost her speaking slot :)

At least there's something most folks can be happy about.

[Androidpk]

At least there's something most folks can be happy about.

It's not enough.

[Jarvan]

I just heard... apparently Michael Brown's mother is going to be speaking at the DNC.

Michael Brown's Mother.

Makes you wonder.....

If the recent cop killers weren't dead, would they be invited to speak as well?

WTF is wrong with the DNC?

[Wrathbringer]

I just heard... apparently Michael Brown's mother is going to be speaking at the DNC.

Michael Brown's Mother.

Makes you wonder.....

If the recent cop killers weren't dead, would they be invited to speak as well?

WTF is wrong with the DNC?

Pandering to black people to make them think their lives matter to hrc.

[Jarvan]

Pandering to black people to make them think their lives matter to hrc.

I wonder if she will hold up a sign that says "Mother's shouldn't have to worry that their sons will be shot and killed just because they rob a store and assault an officer"

[Wrathbringer]

I wonder if she will hold up a sign that says "Mother's shouldn't have to worry that their sons will be shot and killed just because they rob a store and assault an officer"

I doubt it. That's a lot to fit on one sign.

[Gelston]

You're all tadpoles.

[Jarvan]

Maybe the DNC can get JoAnne Chesimard to speak, I am sure Obama can Pardon her in time to make it there.

[Gelston]

Maybe the DNC can get JoAnne Chesimard to speak, I am sure Obama can Pardon her in time to make it there.

Why? She can just video conference from Cuba. Go to Cuba, kidnap her, and bring her to the US and you'll get paid $2m by the US Government.

[Jarvan]

Why? She can just video conference from Cuba. Go to Cuba, kidnap her, and bring her to the US and you'll get paid $2m by the US Government.

No.. I would be sent back to Cuba for Kidnapping, and denied the $2M. I would also likely be charged by the Obama DoJ with hate crimes. I am white after all, I MUST be a racist if I kidnapped a Black Woman.

[Fallen]

Bloomberg is endorsing Clinton.

[Warriorbird]

http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/07/how-putin-weaponized-wikileaks-influence-election-american-president/130163/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoHJBYuWYAAqHDy.jpg

Lol.

[~Rocktar~]

And the fun keeps coming.

http://dennismichaellynch.com/new-democratic-chairperson-also-exposed-in-wikileaks-emails/

Maybe she can resign and get a job on Hillary's campaign like the previous one did.

[Fallen]

via npr: WATCH: Floridians Boo Wasserman Schultz Ahead Of Democratic Convention http://n.pr/2abPkv8

[Gelston]

via npr: WATCH: Floridians Boo Wasserman Schultz Ahead Of Democratic Convention http://n.pr/2abPkv8

Yeah, they're saying the Hillary campaign is probably going to cost her her seat in Congress.

[Warriorbird]

Yeah, they're saying the Hillary campaign is probably going to cost her her seat in Congress.

Even without the blatant cheating she should lose it for her terrible job as DNC chair. Kaine was massively better.

[Jarvan]

Yeah, they're saying the Hillary campaign is probably going to cost her her seat in Congress.

No.. DWS cost her her seat in Congress.

[Warriorbird]

Sometimes if I close my eyes I can pretend its the Vice Presidential candidates running against each other and be hopeful for America.

[Wrathbringer]

Sometimes if I close my eyes I can pretend its the Vice Presidential candidates running against each other and be hopeful for America.

This is sop for liberals. Close eyes, pretend, and be hopeful.

[GS4Pirate]

via npr: WATCH: Floridians Boo Wasserman Schultz Ahead Of Democratic Convention http://n.pr/2abPkv8

Fucking delusional.

[Warriorbird]

This is sop for liberals. Close eyes, pretend, and be hopeful.

I appreciated Obama's presidency much more than Bush's. Which Libertarian President do you like the best?

[Wrathbringer]

I appreciated Obama's presidency much more than Bush's. Which Libertarian President do you like the best?

Sorry, I can see that I've triggered you. It'll pass.

[Taernath]

Which Libertarian President do you like the best?

http://i.imgur.com/oXldkSl.gif

[Warriorbird]

Sorry, I can see that I've triggered you. It'll pass.

I understand that being a leech on the government to somehow attack leeches on the government takes a tremendous effort on your part.

I really don't mean to take time away from your busy schedule. My apologies in turn.

[Wrathbringer]

I understand that being a leech on the government to somehow attack leeches on the government takes a tremendous effort on your part.

I really don't mean to take time away from your busy schedule. My apologies in turn.

Damn. Mega triggered.

[Taernath]

Aww, Wrathbaby's sending out neg rep now.

[Gelston]

Aww, Wrathbaby's sending out neg rep now.

Yeah, he is a little whiner.

[Wrathbringer]

Yeah, he is a little whiner.

You misspelled winner.

[Gelston]

You misspelled winner.

What have you won, other than participation awards?

[Wrathbringer]

What have you won, other than participation awards?

Tough crowd today.

[Luftstreitkräfte]

Sorry, I can see that I've triggered you. It'll pass.

When Wrathbringer says he'll "pass," stay at least 50 feet away from his rump. It might feel like gas, but with a world record holder like Wrath.. you never know.

8044

[ClydeR]

They have Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Michelle Obama all speaking tonight. That's too much for just one night.

[Gelston]

They have Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Michelle Obama all speaking tonight. That's too much for just one night.

And Boyz II Men performing! TRULY ACTION PACKED!!!!!

[Stumplicker]

And Boyz II Men performing! TRULY ACTION PACKED!!!!!

http://orig07.deviantart.net/2969/f/2013/062/b/f/bill_clinton_the_lady_killer_by_sharpwriter-d5wx11h.jpg

[Parkbandit]

They have Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Michelle Obama all speaking tonight. That's too much for just one night.

The Sellout, the Charlatan and the First Lady... sounds like a fun, fun night!

Oh Candor.. are you going to be watching this!?!? WE NEED TO KNOW!!!!!!

[Wrathbringer]

When Wrathbringer says he'll "pass," stay at least 50 feet away from his rump. It might feel like gas, but with a world record holder like Wrath.. you never know.

8044

:lol:

[kutter]

http://orig07.deviantart.net/2969/f/2013/062/b/f/bill_clinton_the_lady_killer_by_sharpwriter-d5wx11h.jpg

I am calling BULLSHIT on that drawing! Monica Lewinsky was NEVER attractive, let alone THAT attractive. She has a body shaped like a concrete culvert.

[Jarvan]

I am calling BULLSHIT on that drawing! Monica Lewinsky was NEVER attractive, let alone THAT attractive. She has a body shaped like a concrete culvert.

Not to mention... aren't those Assault Weapons he is using? Didn't he ban them?

[Parkbandit]

Not to mention... aren't those Assault Weapons he is using? Didn't he ban them?

Laws are for peasants.. he's not one of you.

[kutter]

Laws are for peasants.. he's not one of you.

At work the other day someone was trying to tell me that since HRC has never been convicted of anything then clearly she is innocent of the charges, to which I responded, "Sean, by that logic, Al Capone was just a guy that fudged on his taxes.' He did not think it was very funny.

[Gelston]

At work the other day someone was trying to tell me that since HRC has never been convicted of anything then clearly she is innocent of the charges, to which I responded, "Sean, by that logic, Al Capone was just a guy that fudged on his taxes.' He did not think it was very funny.

Well, according to the law he was completely innocent except for the tax issue. They definitely treated him bad for a white collar criminal, I mean, Alcatraz? WTF man.

[Androidpk]

Michelle Obama saying Hillary is the only one she trusts to be the next President of the United States.. what a dumb bitch.

[Androidpk]

Jesus H fucking Christ, Sen. Warren insinuating that the Republicans are rigging the system.. is she for real? Is she high right now?

[Warriorbird]

I can only imagine how crazy people would be getting if Hillary was working with Russia to influence an American election.

[Tgo01]

is she for real? Is she high right now?

Yes and yes.

I'm saving my brain cells by not watching the convention but one of my far left relatives posted something on Facebook saying Sarah Silverman said: "Bernie or Bust crowd: you're being ridiculous."

So I see Hillary supporters are now literally bullying people into supporting her.

And earlier today this same relative posted a video with the cast from Orange is the New Black going on and on about how it's time we voted for Hillary because...well because she has a vagina. No. I'm not even making this shit up. And they were very heavily implying that if you're a woman and you don't support Hillary then you should be ashamed.

Can Hillary actually win on the issues? Didn't Sanders go ape shit a few times telling people to stick to the issues and stop this nonsense? Where are these convictions now that people are bullying people into voting for Hillary? OH RIGHT! He's on stage throwing his support behind Hillary too.

I wonder what position the Democrats offered Sanders for him to sell his soul.

[Androidpk]

I tried not to watch. Fuck.

[Androidpk]

Bernie just set the house on fire! ROLL CALL BITCHES!

[Tgo01]

Bernie just set the house on fire! ROLL CALL BITCHES!

What did he do?

[Androidpk]

What did he do?

Thanked the 1800+ delegates of his that showed up, says he looks forward to their votes tomorrow night at the roll call.

[Parkbandit]

I can only imagine how crazy people would be getting if Hillary was working with Russia to influence an American election.

https://assets.pando.com/_versions/2014/04/kool-aid_featured.jpg

[Warriorbird]

https://assets.pando.com/_versions/2014/04/kool-aid_featured.jpg

http://tuttoggi.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/forza-italia-copia__1_.jpg

[Parkbandit]

http://tuttoggi.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/forza-italia-copia__1_.jpg

https://media.giphy.com/media/s6ZUbKlj2nSVi/giphy.gif

[Warriorbird]

https://media.giphy.com/media/s6ZUbKlj2nSVi/giphy.gif

Throughout its existence, the party was characterised by a strong reliance on the personal image and charisma of its leader—it has therefore been called a "personality party" or Berlusconi's "personal party"—and the skillful use of media campaigns, especially via television.The party's organisation and ideology depended heavily on its leader. Its appeal to voters was based on Berlusconi's personality more than on its ideology or programme.

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21661042-silvio-berlusconis-once-dominant-forza-italia-party-disintegrating-not-so-forza-any-more

[Parkbandit]

Throughout its existence, the party was characterised by a strong reliance on the personal image and charisma of its leader—it has therefore been called a "personality party" or Berlusconi's "personal party"—and the skillful use of media campaigns, especially via television.The party's organisation and ideology depended heavily on its leader. Its appeal to voters was based on Berlusconi's personality more than on its ideology or programme.

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21661042-silvio-berlusconis-once-dominant-forza-italia-party-disintegrating-not-so-forza-any-more


Black holes are some of the strangest and most fascinating objects found in outer space. They are objects of extreme density, with such strong gravitational attraction that even light cannot escape from their grasp if it comes near enough.

Albert Einstein first predicted black holes in 1916 with his general theory of relativity. The term "black hole" was coined in 1967 by American astronomer John Wheeler, and the first one was discovered in 1971.

There are three types: stellar black holes, supermassive black holes and intermediate black holes.

http://www.space.com/15421-black-holes-facts-formation-discovery-sdcmp.html

[ClydeR]

The DNC suppressed and oppressed Bernie supporters until they can't take it any more. Now, it's time for payback..


The Bernies have set up tent cities throughout Philadelphia as hubs of protest. At one tent city in North Philadelphia, a plot has been hatched to feed all of the Bernie-supporting delegates who visit the camp lots of baked beans before they go into the arena, so that they can unleash a methane wrath on everyone else. This plan is called “The Fart-In.”

More... (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-dream-dies-hard-for-the-bernie-or-bust-crowd-and-it-stinks/2016/07/25/f7cea2aa-5293-11e6-b7de-dfe509430c39_story.html)


The thing the Bernies would like to convey is that the Bernies are bigger than Bernie, who is also bigger than himself. Bernie, here in Philadelphia, is an ideal. That ideal is a bright light in a world that is chaotic and depressing. “Capitalism as an idea is unsustainable,” says a man named Xander, as he sits in the grass outside of a third tent city. (At this tent city, journalists are asked to prove they are not policemen by eating a non-GMO peach, for reasons that are unclear because at this point our notes just read, “Guy without beard says, ‘A Snickers bar does not equal the Taj Mahal.’” Peach eaten.)

Back to Xander: “Before we turned things into commodities, there were just leaves, and feathers and wood. And then some enterprising person came and chopped down a tree and turned it into a chair and decided it cost $8.”

[ClydeR]

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - About 50 Bernie Sanders supporters protesting before the Democratic National Convention on Monday sat down in a roadway until city officials agreed to remove Mississippi's state flag, which includes the Confederate battle emblem.

Philadelphia's first deputy managing director, Brian Abernathy, said the flag and another one nearby were removed Monday evening. He said the city started to receive complaints from residents after the flags recently went up as part of reinvigoration efforts on Broad Street, where the flags of all 50 states fly from light poles, ahead of the convention.

"The Confederate flag raises strong feelings in our city and across the country," Abernathy said.

The people protesting the flag, which is viewed by many blacks as a symbol of slavery, were part of a group of hundreds marching toward the arena hosting the convention. Police told the marchers they weren't allowed to climb the pole and take the flag down. The crowd heckled the officers, telling them to think for themselves.

More... (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/dnc/20160725_ap_a14ad5bd02c54792b65a1bd000ee98aa.html)


What will the Mississippi delegates say about this?

[Warriorbird]

What will the Mississippi delegates say about this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XNr-BQgpd0

[GS4Pirate]

I can only imagine how crazy people would be getting if Hillary was working with Russia to influence an American election.

Dude, honestly, are you sure you're a fucking teacher?

Wikileaks says you're fucking high:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wikileaks-julian-assange-no-proof-hacked-dnc-emails-came-russia-n616541

[Androidpk]

Dude, honestly, are you sure you're a fucking teacher?

Why wouldn't he be? The bar for being a highschool teacher is pretty damn low.

[GS4Pirate]

Why wouldn't he be? The bar for being a highschool teacher is pretty damn low.

I knew it was bad....but this bad?

[Warriorbird]

Dude, honestly, are you sure you're a fucking teacher?

Wikileaks says you're fucking high:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wikileaks-julian-assange-no-proof-hacked-dnc-emails-came-russia-n616541

Because press releases trump (lol) FBI investigations? You and Hillary might be on the same wavelength.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/paul-manafort-ukraine-104263

Hmm. Manafort and Roger Stone. Who are they working for now?

[Androidpk]

Tulsi Gabbard just nominated Sanders.

[Fallen]

God damn Hawaiians.

[GS4Pirate]

Because press releases trump (lol) FBI investigations? You and Hillary might be on the same wavelength.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/paul-manafort-ukraine-104263

Hmm. Manafort and Roger Stone. Who are they working for now?

You honestly believe the Republicans are working with Putin?

Shouldn't you be asking yourself how the fuck the Russians got a hold of these emails and the content of the emails? Do you like reading that your party is trying to keep you ignorant? Honestly, do you enjoy getting kicked in the nuts?

[Kembal]

Tulsi Gabbard just nominated Sanders.

This is planned. I was talking with one of Gabbard's aides on Sunday and he let me know this was coming. Clinton campaign knew it too.

[Kembal]

Dude, honestly, are you sure you're a fucking teacher?

Wikileaks says you're fucking high:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wikileaks-julian-assange-no-proof-hacked-dnc-emails-came-russia-n616541

Would you trust Wikileaks if you knew they were releasing documents that had been potentially manipulated by a foreign intelligence agency? Of course Assange's going to deny. Their credibility would be shot otherwise.

[GS4Pirate]

Would you trust Wikileaks if you knew they were releasing documents that had been potentially manipulated by a foreign intelligence agency? Of course Assange's going to deny. Their credibility would be shot otherwise.

I would trust sleeping with a rattlesnake over anything that has to do with Hillary and her campaign.

I don't even trust the FBI at this point after this past Clinton fiasco.

[Androidpk]

Would you trust Wikileaks if you knew they were releasing documents that had been potentially manipulated by a foreign intelligence agency? Of course Assange's going to deny. Their credibility would be shot otherwise.

And even still they'd be far more trustworthy than Clinton and the DNC.

[Kembal]

And even still they'd be far more trustworthy than Clinton and the DNC.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/all-signs-point-to-russia-being-behind-the-dnc-hack

Let's just say it's quite probable that Assange is lying. (don't know if anyone posted this link earlier, haven't read back in the thread.)

[Androidpk]

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/all-signs-point-to-russia-being-behind-the-dnc-hack

Let's just say it's quite probable that Assange is lying. (don't know if anyone posted this link earlier, haven't read back in the thread.)

Yes, that's why DWS stepped down almost immediately. Cause Assange is lying. *insert eye roll smiley face*

[Jarvan]

I just got to wonder...

The Dems will build a fence to protect their delegates from OTHER Dems...

But refuse to build a wall to protect America.

[Wrathbringer]

Yes, that's why DWS stepped down almost immediately. Cause Assange is lying. *insert eye roll smiley face*

I've found that :jerkit: works for the broken eye roll smiley.

[Wesley]

I just got to wonder...

The Dems will build a fence to protect their delegates from OTHER Dems...

But refuse to build a wall to protect America.

I saw a documentary in 2013 about building a large wall to keep out undesirables. Sufficed to say, it was a scientifically proven FACT that the wall failed almost immediately.

http://www.thegeekocracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/pacific-rim-kaiju1.jpg

[Jarvan]

As far as the Wikileaks thing....

if this was Watergate, and the Russians had been the ones to leak about Nixon and the tapes because they had spied on or bugged the Whitehouse. Does ANYONE think Dems would have complained about Russia?

Recently... Holder said Snowden performed a "Public Service". Well... even if Russia did hack the DNC.. Didn't THEY perform a public service?

[Allereli]

I saw a documentary in 2013 about building a large wall to keep out undesirables. Sufficed to say, it was a scientifically proven FACT that the wall failed almost immediately.

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/pacificrim/images/5/52/Pacificrim13.jpg

There's a reason the Great Wall of China is in the middle of that country...

[Kembal]

Yes, that's why DWS stepped down almost immediately. Cause Assange is lying. *insert eye roll smiley face*

DWS should've been kicked out long ago. Her resignation was warranted for her conduct as DNC chair. Emails forced it.

However, her resignation has nothing to do with the issue of whether those emails were released by Russian intelligence to Wikileaks. You need to work on your logic skills.

[Jarvan]

I saw a documentary in 2013 about building a large wall to keep out undesirables. Sufficed to say, it was a scientifically proven FACT that the wall failed almost immediately.

How did that work for Germany after WWII?

Our southern board is screwy, but you are telling me that in the 21st century, we can't build a wall that people can't bypass?

Tall wall
Ground Sensors
cameras
Towers
Patrols

It's funny.... I have never heard of someone breaking into Fort Knox. or 3 Mile island. But yet it's a fact that a wall won't work. Go figure.

[Kembal]

As far as the Wikileaks thing....

if this was Watergate, and the Russians had been the ones to leak about Nixon and the tapes because they had spied on or bugged the Whitehouse. Does ANYONE think Dems would have complained about Russia?

Recently... Holder said Snowden performed a "Public Service". Well... even if Russia did hack the DNC.. Didn't THEY perform a public service?

Outside of getting DWS to resign, no. Had they released them a month ago or something, you could make that argument. This was timed for maximum disruption to the Democratic National Convention. They're trying to screw with our election.

[Wesley]

How did that work for Germany after WWII?

Our southern board is screwy, but you are telling me that in the 21st century, we can't build a wall that people can't bypass?

Tall wall
Ground Sensors
cameras
Towers
Patrols

It's funny.... I have never heard of someone breaking into Fort Knox. or 3 Mile island. But yet it's a fact that a wall won't work. Go figure.

Actually what I'm telling you is that we will never be safe from Kaiju. But then you went and got all POLITICAL about it.

[Jarvan]

There's a reason the Great Wall of China is in the middle of that country...

The Great Wall of China was mainly built to stop/slow ARMIES. Not immigrants.

Also.. the Wall was built on the THEN northern Boarder. China eventually annexed Mongolia and made the wall moot.

Kinda like if we built a Wall on the south, then Annexed Mexico at some point.

[Jarvan]

Outside of getting DWS to resign, no. Had they released them a month ago or something, you could make that argument. This was timed for maximum disruption to the Democratic National Convention. They're trying to screw with our election.

Honestly.. I would say they were likely waiting to see if the FBI would recommend indictment. If they had, these emails from the DNC would have been nothing. Since they didn't... they are relevant.

[Jarvan]

Actually what I'm telling you is that we will never be safe from Kaiju. But then you went and got all POLITICAL about it.

They just didn't build it big enough, and out of unobtanium. Steel can't stand up to a Kaiju. Now... if they had built the pacific rim wall 500 feet high, out of reinforced concrete 1 mile thick... THEN they would have had a real Kaiju wall. Of course.. there would have been flyers... but that's cheating.

[Gelston]

The Great Wall of China was mainly built to stop/slow ARMIES. Not immigrants.

Also.. the Wall was built on the THEN northern Boarder. China eventually annexed Mongolia and made the wall moot.

Kinda like if we built a Wall on the south, then Annexed Mexico at some point.

China didn't annex Mongolia, Mongolia annexed China.

[Androidpk]

They're trying to screw with our election.

By letting voting Americans know that the democratic party rigged the election? Jesus christ man, don't be a daft sap.

[Androidpk]

Love seeing all these liberals bend over it take it right up the ass. No fucking shame at all.

[Tgo01]

Would you trust Wikileaks if you knew they were releasing documents that had been potentially manipulated by a foreign intelligence agency? Of course Assange's going to deny. Their credibility would be shot otherwise.

I love how quickly Democrats have turned on Wikileaks.

Weren't Democrats creaming in their collective pants over Wikileaks just a couple of years ago? Weren't they cheering Assange on as he ran away from the law for rape charges?

And now, what, in a matter of 2 days Assange and Wikileaks are literally the devil and are in cahoots with RUSSIA of all countries?

[Jarvan]

China didn't annex Mongolia, Mongolia annexed China.

Technically... Manchu annexed Mongolia if you want to look at it that way. But considering that prior to 1644, the Manchu people had ruled in China as well... it's kinda like saying Native American Tribe A conquered B, who then Conquered A but was conquered by C.

But.. in the end... the Qing dynasty.. (Manchu ruled) annexed Mongolia.. which was separate from Manchuria.

[Jarvan]

I love how quickly Democrats have turned on Wikileaks.

Weren't Democrats creaming in their collective pants over Wikileaks just a couple of years ago? Weren't they cheering Assange on as he ran away from the law for rape charges?

And now, what, in a matter of 2 days Assange and Wikileaks are literally the devil and are in cahoots with RUSSIA of all countries?

No No No.... TRUMP is in Cahoots with Russia. I actually heard a Dem senator say that Trump must have paid Russia to do this.

[Wesley]

Technically... Manchu annexed Mongolia if you want to look at it that way. But considering that prior to 1644, the Manchu people had ruled in China as well... it's kinda like saying Native American Tribe A conquered B, who then Conquered A but was conquered by C.

But.. in the end... the Qing dynasty.. (Manchu ruled) annexed Mongolia.. which was separate from Manchuria.

Factually correct and double checked. I was in the middle of double checking to say something to this effect myself when you posted it. A+.

[Kembal]

I love how quickly Democrats have turned on Wikileaks.

Weren't Democrats creaming in their collective pants over Wikileaks just a couple of years ago? Weren't they cheering Assange on as he ran away from the law for rape charges?

And now, what, in a matter of 2 days Assange and Wikileaks are literally the devil and are in cahoots with RUSSIA of all countries?

Pretty sure most Dems soured on Assange a while back, around the time of the rape charges. Only far left was pro-Assange. Personally, never liked him.

[Kembal]

Honestly.. I would say they were likely waiting to see if the FBI would recommend indictment. If they had, these emails from the DNC would have been nothing. Since they didn't... they are relevant.

I still find it funny that you think Russia would do anything with our best interests at heart.

[Tgo01]

Pretty sure most Dems soured on Assange a while back, around the time of the rape charges.

Yeah, right, like Democrats gave a shit about the rape charges. That was just more proof of the evil US and its allies trying to arrest the man on trumped up charges.

No. Assange was very much a hero of the left, until he had the nerve to expose Hillary's corruption.

[Androidpk]

I still find it funny that you think Hillary would do anything with our best interests at heart.

.

[Tgo01]

I still find it funny that you think Russia would do anything with our best interests at heart.

Hillary is the one who offered Russia a "reset" button to reset our relations. Now suddenly Russia is the bad guy because, again, they don't like Hillary.

I know far left/far right people tend to support their respective candidate no matter what but this shit is getting ridiculous now.

[Kembal]

Amusingly, Trump just sent out a tweet (at the exact time that Hillary was formally nominated) denying he has any investments in Russia. (the question is really whether he has Russian investors in his projects here) Looks like this is getting to him.

[GS4Pirate]

I still find it funny that you think Russia would do anything with our best interests at heart.

Hillary sure thought they were the bees knees, even though it was yet another dropped ball:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sudCmrAsF4

I can't believe you think Hillary is competent enough to even drive a car....................oh wait, she can't even drive a fucking car.

[Kembal]

Hillary is the one who offered Russia a "reset" button to reset our relations. Now suddenly Russia is the bad guy because, again, they don't like Hillary.

I know far left/far right people tend to support their respective candidate no matter what but this shit is getting ridiculous now.

So what would take you to believe that the Russians are actively trying to support Trump? Just curious.

[Jarvan]

So what would take you to believe that the Russians are actively trying to support Trump? Just curious.

Honestly... who gives a shit.

Now.. if Russia was sending over millions of people to illegally vote in the election. Then yes, that would be something.

But I don't care if Russia, China.. or even IRAN has secret emails that prove Clinton is corrupt and a criminal... The American people deserve to know.

[Androidpk]

So what would take you to believe that the Russians are actively trying to support Trump? Just curious.

As many have said it doesn't matter. Putin and Russia didn't force hillary and company to break the law. That is on them, not Russia.

[Fallen]

When was the actual hack supposed to have happened? I imagine it was some time ago.

[Jarvan]

So what would take you to believe that the Russians are actively trying to support Trump? Just curious.

It's funny.. did you speak out when the UK were going to hold a vote BARRING Trump from ever visiting their country?

I mean.. that couldn't POSSIBLY be construed to be a country trying to influence our elections.

[Jarvan]

When was the actual hack supposed to have happened? I imagine it was some time ago.

Supposedly.. 2 different ones.

1 in 2015, and one this past April.

[Tgo01]

So what would take you to believe that the Russians are actively trying to support Trump? Just curious.

Nothing.

Proving that Wikileaks + Russia + Trump all conspired together to make Hillary look like the corrupt piece of shit that she is? Well, any evidence at all would be great. And no, I don't mean linking to the DNC's website as "proof."

[Androidpk]

When was the actual hack supposed to have happened? I imagine it was some time ago.

Guccifer2 said he was inside the DNC server for all of last year and part of this year. I imagine, considering the piss poor security, that there were a number of hackers accessing their servers.

[Androidpk]

And why is it that these Dems are so fucking positive that it was Russia that hacked them yet they're absolutely fucking sure that Russia never successfully hacked Hillary's server (which had an even worse security setup) It boggles my mind.

[Fallen]

And why is it that these Dems are so fucking positive that it was Russia that hacked them yet they're absolutely fucking sure that Russia never successfully hacked Hillary's server (which had an even worse security setup) It boggles my mind.
^good point.

[Warriorbird]

You honestly believe the Republicans are working with Putin?

Shouldn't you be asking yourself how the fuck the Russians got a hold of these emails and the content of the emails? Do you like reading that your party is trying to keep you ignorant? Honestly, do you enjoy getting kicked in the nuts?

Hillary was a moron about computer security. That's quite obvious. You never had shit like this go down on any number of other political figures who I'm sure have done far worse.

After Putin's recent push of asymmetrical warfare (even to the point of having Russian military beat up British soccer fans) I don't find it entirely out of the realm of possibility that the former campaign manager of his friend/former pawn Yanukovych (who's now the campaign manager of Donald Trump) has talked to Putin/Russian intelligence. Putin would much rather have Trump than Hillary be President.

Just because one politician and her friend did shady stuff doesn't mean that another politician and his campaign manager didn't.

Citizen's United means there's all sorts of intriguing and corrupt possibilities for foreign countries to support any candidate.

Trump has well documented Russian connections/investments. There's been a lot of money floating around for quite a while.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html


And why is it that these Dems are so fucking positive that it was Russia that hacked them yet they're absolutely fucking sure that Russia never successfully hacked Hillary's server (which had an even worse security setup) It boggles my mind.

I'm not "absolutely fucking sure." I think that's a convenient legal claim.

[GS4Pirate]

Hillary was a moron about computer security. That's quite obvious. You never had shit like this go down on any number of other political figures who I'm sure have done far worse.

After Putin's recent push of asymmetrical warfare (even to the point of having Russian military beat up British soccer fans) I don't find it entirely out of the realm of possibility that the former campaign manager of his friend/former pawn Yanukovych (who's now the campaign manager of Donald Trump) has talked to Putin/Russian intelligence. Putin would much rather have Trump than Hillary be President.

Just because one politician and her friend did shady stuff doesn't mean that another politician and his campaign manager didn't.

Citizen's United means there's all sorts of intriguing and corrupt possibilities for foreign countries to support any candidate.

Trump has well documented Russian connections/investments. There's been a lot of money floating around for quite a while.

Besides your predictable "But Republicans", Trump was never in charge of fucking security. Is fucking McDonalds now in cahoots with Russia because....wait for it..........they have McDonalds in Russia?


Man dude, I have never in my life seen such grasping.

[Wesley]

Besides your predictable "But Republicans", Trump was never been in charge of fucking security. Is fucking McDonalds now in cahoots with Russia because....wait for it..........they have McDonalds in Russia?


Man dude, I have never in my life seen such grasping.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwReSCGL3ss

[Androidpk]

I'll take Trump and his Russian connections any day over Hillary and her Saudi/Wahhabism connections.

[Warriorbird]

Besides your predictable "But Republicans", Trump was never in charge of fucking security. Is fucking McDonalds now in cahoots with Russia because....wait for it..........they have McDonalds in Russia?


Man dude, I have never in my life seen such grasping.

It has nothing to do with what Hillary Clinton did or didn't do.

Trump's campaign manager worked for Putin's proxy ruler of Ukraine. Trump has a lot of Russian money invested in his projects and is close with Russia. Given Citizens United and Mossack Fonseca it absolutely makes sense for Putin to back a Trump Presidency.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html


I'll take Trump and his Russian connections any day over Hillary and her Saudi/Wahhabism connections.

Still doesn't mean he doesn't have them and they're not yanking you around on a leash.

[GS4Pirate]

"Well we tried figuring out how to spell Reset Button in Russian"???????????????????

I would think our government is filled with Russian translators...........but we can't spell reset button after 50 years of cold war.

NO, she had some flunky from her staff slap that shit together. Not to mention it was a stupid fucking idea from the start.

[Androidpk]

It has nothing to do with what Hillary Clinton did or didn't do.

Trump's campaign manager worked for Putin's proxy ruler of Ukraine. Trump has a lot of Russian money invested in his projects and is close with Russia. Given Citizens United and Mossack Fonseca it absolutely makes sense for Putin to back a Trump Presidency.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html



Still doesn't mean he doesn't have them and they're not yanking you around on a leash.


Not yanking me around, I was never going to vote for HRC in the first place.

[Back]

https://youtu.be/i5dBZDSSky0

[Warriorbird]

Not yanking me around, I was never going to vote for HRC in the first place.

If it were Hillary you'd be flipping out about it. You're actually more well informed than most folks about the stuff Putin does too.


"Well we tried figuring out how to spell Reset Button in Russian"???????????????????

I would think our government is filled with Russian translators...........but we can't spell reset button after 50 years of cold war.

NO, she had some flunky from her staff slap that shit together. Not to mention it was a stupid fucking idea from the start.

Sometimes I feel like there's another conversation that you're having that we're all missing. We all clearly need to get high.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8AuMOGx_KY

[GS4Pirate]

It has nothing to do with what Hillary Clinton did or didn't do.

Trump's campaign manager worked for Putin's proxy ruler of Ukraine. Trump has a lot of Russian money invested in his projects and is close with Russia. Given Citizens United and Mossack Fonseca it absolutely makes sense for Putin to back a Trump Presidency.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html



Still doesn't mean he doesn't have them and they're not yanking you around on a leash.

ok, I'm going to put this very simply. Trump is a businessman that invests all around the world, what is wrong with having investments in what was a very attractive market when the USSR collapsed. Everyone was investing.

This has everything to do with Hillary allowing shit security and rigging an election.

Being president, National security is priority #1, she can't figure out how to secure a server.

Pointing fingers at Trump over this is just fucking dumb. This is why I question you even being a teacher, you can't be this obtuse.

[Kembal]

As many have said it doesn't matter. Putin and Russia didn't force hillary and company to break the law. That is on them, not Russia.

Wait a minute. Where is actual breaking of law here? the DNC doesn't run primary elections. They have minimal influence on caucuses via the state parties, but Sanders won those anyway.

Accusing the DNC leadership of bias is fine. Accusing them of breaking the law...uh, you've got to show something.

[Back]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8AuMOGx_KY

I was gonna post... but then?

[Warriorbird]

ok, I'm going to put this very simply. Trump is a businessman that invests all around the world, what is wrong with having investments in what was a very attractive market when the USSR collapsed. Everyone was investing.

This has everything to do with Hillary allowing shit security and rigging an election.

Being president, National security is priority #1, she can't figure out how to secure a server.

Pointing fingers at Trump over this is just fucking dumb. This is why I question you even being a teacher, you can't be this obtuse.

The obtuse bit is that you can't grasp that more than one politician can do shady stuff at once.


I was gonna post... but then?

This is an idea we should all get behind.

[GS4Pirate]

Probably because you didn't read my prior post about Hillary's "Reset Button" snafu.

Thanks for the video though, love that one, wait I take that back, that's the gay version.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsTmIzjkw

[Androidpk]

If it were Hillary you'd be flipping out about it. You're actually more well informed than most folks about the stuff Putin does too.

I'm not saying Russia doesn't concern me, they do. I'm just far more concerned about another Clinton presidency, especially after the revelations of Servergate/Clinton Foundation/DNC corruption than Russia meddling by exposing the people behind the curtains. If that means having Trump as POTUS for 4 or 8 years then so be it.

[GS4Pirate]

I can't believe you dissed Jay and Silent Bob. What a loser :lol:

[Warriorbird]

I can't believe you dissed Jay and Silent Bob. What a loser :lol:

Yeah, again, I'm missing the conversation that the rest of us don't see apparently. I thought that commercial was an amusing spin on it though I obviously appreciate the original. I'm hoping that Virginia legalizes it so we can sell marijuana as well as alcohol.


I'm not saying Russia doesn't concern me, they do. I'm just far more concerned about another Clinton presidency, especially after the revelations of Servergate/Clinton Foundation/DNC corruption than Russia meddling by exposing the people behind the curtains. If that means having Trump as POTUS for 4 or 8 years then so be it.

I think you're purposefully ignoring other stuff from an understandable hatred for Hillary Clinton. Were this race Sanders versus Johnson I might see is as solely a battle of ideals. It isn't.

[GS4Pirate]

Yeah, again, I'm missing the conversation that the rest of us don't see apparently. I thought that commercial was an amusing spin on it though I obviously appreciate the original. I'm hoping that Virginia legalizes it so we can sell marijuana as well as alcohol.



I think you're purposefully ignoring other stuff from an understandable hatred for Hillary Clinton. Were this race Sanders versus Johnson I might see is as solely a battle of ideals. It isn't.


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[Parkbandit]

By letting voting Americans know that the democratic party rigged the election? Jesus christ man, don't be a daft sap.

I'm waiting for them to claim all the emails are fake or doctored.

That's what the Democrats are down to.

[Parkbandit]

So what would take you to believe that the Russians are actively trying to support Trump? Just curious.

You're being played chump...

"Don't worry how badly these emails make us look... LOOK OVER THERE THE RUSSIANS LOVE TRUMP!! THEY DID THIS!! THEY HATE WOMEN!!!!"

[Androidpk]

I'm waiting for them to claim all the emails are fake or doctored.

That's what the Democrats are down to.

I bet they'll blame the email leaks on a youtube video.

[Androidpk]

Yeah, again, I'm missing the conversation that the rest of us don't see apparently. I thought that commercial was an amusing spin on it though I obviously appreciate the original. I'm hoping that Virginia legalizes it so we can sell marijuana as well as alcohol.



I think you're purposefully ignoring other stuff from an understandable hatred for Hillary Clinton. Were this race Sanders versus Johnson I might see is as solely a battle of ideals. It isn't.


What exactly am I ignoring?

[Wesley]

Hacking, and, certainly not some or several thousand asshats downloading and clicking suspicious files, is serious business people. Srs. Bsnss.

https://gaspull-geeksaresexytech.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/computer_bomb.jpg

[ClydeR]

That video right after Bill Clinton's speech was the best thing of the evening.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA

[ClydeR]

And because Meryl Streep is speaking now..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aasECsxrSzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aasECsxrSzQ

[Candor]

hey Parky...

I'm not watching :)

[Jarvan]

That video right after Bill Clinton's speech was the best thing of the evening.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA

Are they saying Dumb? Cause.. well.. that would fit.

[Shaps]

That video right after Bill Clinton's speech was the best thing of the evening.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA

What.. in.. the.. hell.. was.. that?

3 minutes of my life that is forever wasted.

[Wesley]

I especially like the part where the lyrics say "And I don't really care if nobody else believes", because of the implied additional "because I'mma win this bitch even if I have to rig the voting machines on election day".

Also, Hillary's campaign has so far raised 374.4 million dollars according to the google. Couldn't she have gotten you know...slightly higher than D-List celebrities? Perhaps they're saving that for sweeps.

[Allereli]

Also, Hillary's campaign has so far raised 374.4 million dollars according to the google. Couldn't she have gotten you know...slightly higher than D-List celebrities? Perhaps they're saving that for sweeps.

you're calling Meryl Streep D-list?

[Wesley]

you're calling Meryl Streep D-list?

In 2016? Yes ma'am.

Edit to add: A case could of course be made for Elizabeth Banks. She's a solid B list.

[Allereli]

In 2016? Yes ma'am.

Edit to add: A case could of course be made for Elizabeth Banks. She's a solid B list.

So what does that make Scott Baio?

[Wesley]

So what does that make Scott Baio?

Somebody whose name didn't have a face with it in my brain and I had to google him to remember who he was.

[Candor]

So what does that make Scott Baio?

Old.

[Wesley]

Don't get me wrong. I've never had a habit of voting based on which candidate has gotten the better celebrity endorsements. But you'd think the presumptive nominee could have drummed up some A-List talent from a state as blue as California with the kind of wallet she has in her campaign fund. I just felt it was worth the comment. :P

[kutter]

Well so much of ever listening to another Rachel Platten song again.

[Allereli]

Well so much of ever listening to another Rachel Platten song again.

Here's a list of Republican musicians
http://www.ranker.com/list/republican-musicians-and-singers-conservative-bands-/famous-conservatives

Fucking Robert Paulson on the list!

[kutter]

Here's a list of Republican musicians
http://www.ranker.com/list/republican-musicians-and-singers-conservative-bands-/famous-conservatives

Fucking Robert Paulson on the list!

Nothing too shocking in that list except for maybe LL Cool J and Prodigy, did not see either of those coming.

[Jarvan]

So what does that make Scott Baio?

Charles in Charge.

[Jarvan]

Here's a list of Republican musicians
http://www.ranker.com/list/republican-musicians-and-singers-conservative-bands-/famous-conservatives

Fucking Robert Paulson on the list!

Number 16 got to be wrong, we ALL know no black man is a republican.

[Androidpk]

I've been hearing Nina Turner had her credentials removed last night for speaking about corruption in the DNC. Her video segment, as well as Rosario Dawson's, was removed from Sander's pre-speech video too.


Though Turner has yet to make any public statement on the situation at this hour, Common Dreams communicated with a source close to Turner who confirmed that her credentials had been taken away. Though postings on social media indicated Turner was punished "for criticizing DNC corruption," those claims could not be independently verified. The DNC has yet to make any official statement on the matter.

The source, familiar with some of the details but not authorized to discuss them, said the DNC also cut Turner and another prominent and effective surrogate, actress Rosario Dawson, from the promotional video that aired just before Sanders' remarks during Tuesday's roll call. Sanders reportedly fought the moves, but was not able to overturn the decision.


Can't let those 2 black women hurt Hillary's chances of winning over black voters!

[Jarvan]

I've been hearing Nina Turner had her credentials removed last night for speaking about corruption in the DNC. Her video segment, as well as Rosario Dawson's, was removed from Sander's pre-speech video too.




Can't let those 2 black women hurt Hillary's chances of winning over black voters!



Hillary doesn't have to win over Black voters.

Just like the White woman of the south before her, she already owns them.

[Jarvan]

So.. BLM tells white people to get to the back of the march.

I wonder if MLK told white people supporting the civil rights movement to "get in the back of the march, only black people allowed up front".

Stay classy DNC... Stay Classy.

[Parkbandit]

So.. BLM tells white people to get to the back of the march.

I wonder if MLK told white people supporting the civil rights movement to "get in the back of the march, only black people allowed up front".

Stay classy DNC... Stay Classy.

Well.. it is only BLACK LIVES MATTER..

[ClydeR]

Tonight's main speakers will be Biden, Obama and Kaine.

People are saying that Obama will focus his speech on Trump. Sitting presidents normally don't get his involved in their successor's campaign. The way Obama is behaving makes you think Obama has a grudge against Trump. I can't imagine what it is.

[Fallen]

Dems become 1st major party to back a path to legalizing marijuana




What Democratic National Platform says on marijuana

“Because of conflicting federal and state laws concerning marijuana, we encourage the federal government to remove marijuana from the list of ‘Schedule 1’ federal controlled substances and to appropriately regulate it, providing a reasoned pathway for future legalization. We believe that the states should be laboratories of democracy on the issue of marijuana, and those states that want to decriminalize it or provide access to medical marijuana should be able to do so. We support policies that will allow more research on marijuana, as well as reforming our laws to allow legal marijuana businesses to exist without uncertainty. And we recognize our current marijuana laws have had an unacceptable disparate impact in terms of arrest rates for African-Americans that far outstrip arrest rates for whites, despite similar usage rates.”

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/26/dems-become-st-major-party-back-path-legalizing-pot/87600618/

[Parkbandit]

Dems become 1st major party to back a path to legalizing marijuana

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/26/dems-become-st-major-party-back-path-legalizing-pot/87600618/

Don't we already have enough of our population high and lazy?

[Fallen]

Don't we already have enough of our population high and lazy?

http://media.ifccenter.com/images/films/reefer-madness_592x299.jpg

[Jarvan]

http://media.ifccenter.com/images/films/reefer-madness_592x299.jpg

Are you saying pot doesn't make you high?

[Fallen]

Are you saying pot doesn't make you high?

Yes. That is exactly what i'm saying.

[Wrathbringer]

Dems become 1st major party to back a path to legalizing marijuana




http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/26/dems-become-st-major-party-back-path-legalizing-pot/87600618/

Doesn't go nearly far enough.

[Jarvan]

Doesn't go nearly far enough.

Yeah, I agree. They need to add in mandatory heroin shots for all 1st graders.

[Wrathbringer]

Yeah, I agree. They need to add in mandatory heroin shots for all 1st graders.

As a grown adult incapable of comprehending the difference between then and than, your opinion is not highly regarded. Speaking for myself, of course.

[Jarvan]

As a grown adult incapable of comprehending the difference between then and than, your opinion is not highly regarded. Speaking for myself, of course.

I do to the English language what it did to the Scottish and Irish people.

Also... if using the wrong words makes a person's opinion meaningless.... I guess no one's is.

Oh.. and speaking for myself. I don't give two shits what you think. So I guess we are even.

And yes.. I think legalizing pot is worse THEN just drinking or smoking tobacco. But.. if it happens.. we will see the results sooner THAN later.

[Androidpk]

And yes.. I think legalizing pot is worse THEN just drinking or smoking tobacco. But.. if it happens.. we will see the results sooner THAN later.

Umm.. We've got multiple states that legalized and there are other countries legalized. No problems there. In fact there has been tons of positives. Less kids smoking, less people popping pills, medicare expenses down, tax revenue skyrocketing, schools being built, better education programs being put out. If we were going to see negative results why haven't we seen any yet?

[GS4Pirate]

As much as I have pushed for legalization over the years (this is the issue that got me involved in politics), there is no way I would suddenly vote for a life time criminal and betray our country for a weak sauce position such as this. We already are to that point as is.

As far as "don't we already have enough high people?", it's such a laughable retort, as if we should say fuck it let people go to prison for a plant that is less harmful than alcohol. I also beg the question, would you not be able to stop yourself from going out and becoming a marijuana junky if it were legal?

[Warriorbird]

As much as I have pushed for legalization over the years (this is the issue that got me involved in politics), there is no way I would suddenly vote for a life time criminal and betray our country for a weak sauce position such as this. We already are to that point as is.

As far as "don't we already have enough high people?", it's such a laughable retort, as if we should say fuck it let people go to prison for a plant that is less harmful than alcohol. I also beg the question, would you not be able to stop yourself from going out and becoming a marijuana junky if it were legal?

I feel like those folks tend to be super envious for whatever reason.

I don't smoke these days but I'm sure not going to condemn anyone for it.

[Back]

Anyone calling Hillary a criminal... have you even stopped to think about Trump's past?

For a second?

[Warriorbird]

Anyone calling Hillary a criminal... have you even stopped to think about Trump's past?

For a second?

I think most folks with a brain, Democratic or Republican, are probably just amused/baffled by him asking Russia to hack Hillary's emails now in a speech.

[Wrathbringer]

Anyone calling Hillary a criminal... have you even stopped to think about Trump's past?

For a second?

Bbbbbut republicans!!1

[GS4Pirate]

Anyone calling Hillary a criminal... have you even stopped to think about Trump's past?

For a second?

Civil litigation does not even come close to what the Clinton crime organization has done. I also don't recall Trump ever holding a high level government position where security level was = to something from the stone age

[Jarvan]

Umm.. We've got multiple states that legalized and there are other countries legalized. No problems there. In fact there has been tons of positives. Less kids smoking, less people popping pills, medicare expenses down, tax revenue skyrocketing, schools being built, better education programs being put out. If we were going to see negative results why haven't we seen any yet?

.....

NO country has really legalized it. (Ok, maybe one, not positive anymore and I don't feel like looking it up)

They decriminalized it. There is a difference.

Also.. no problems? Are you sure about that? NO problems at all?

Could you really be that stupid?

[Back]

Bbbbbut republicans!!1

PB, Trump is not a republican. He is an opportunist. I would've thought you knew that by now.

[Parkbandit]

PB, Trump is not a republican. He is an opportunist. I would've thought you knew that by now.

Drunk Tuesday switched to Drunk Wednesday?

[Gelston]

Drunk Tuesday switched to Drunk Wednesday?

Tequila Tuesday turns into Whiskey Wednesday.

[Parkbandit]

Tequila Tuesday turns into Whiskey Wednesday.

He seems more like an Appletini type

[Androidpk]

Anyone calling Hillary a criminal... have you even stopped to think about Trump's past?

For a second?

Seems pretty fucking peachy compared to Hillary.

[Androidpk]

.....

NO country has really legalized it. (Ok, maybe one, not positive anymore and I don't feel like looking it up)

They decriminalized it. There is a difference.

Also.. no problems? Are you sure about that? NO problems at all?

Could you really be that stupid?


What negative results are you seeing that makes you think it's worse than tobacco and alcohol? Could you really be that stupid? Yes, yes you could.

[Androidpk]

PB, Trump is not a republican. He is an opportunist. I would've thought you knew that by now.


So kind of like how Hillary isn't a democrat, she's a crooked opportunist.

[Shaps]

Nothing too shocking in that list except for maybe LL Cool J and Prodigy, did not see either of those coming.

Why? Because he's black and supports a Republican?

You racist.

[tyrant-201]

He seems more like an Appletini type

I'll bet you remember the days of making moonshine in your bathtub during the Great Depression. Tell me what people were drinking back in 1901, Great Grandpa Parkbandit.

[Wesley]

I'll bet you remember the days of making moonshine in your bathtub during the Great Depression. Tell me what people were drinking back in 1901, Great Grandpa Parkbandit.

You do realize that the Great Depression happened in the 1930s, right?

[Gelston]

I'll bet you remember the days of making moonshine in your bathtub during the Great Depression. Tell me what people were drinking back in 1901, Great Grandpa Parkbandit.

They were drinking regular booze, prohibition wasn't in effect in 1901. Lrn2history.

[tyrant-201]

You do realize that the Great Depression happened in the 1930s, right?

I do. The question was unrelated. Prohibition was early 1920s I believe

[RichardCranium]

I do. The question was unrelated. Prohibition was early 1920s I believe

Wrong again.

[Warriorbird]

1920-1933 just so we don't have a debate in which Latrin switches it in time again.

[tyrant-201]

Wrong again.

Not wrong, but thanks

[Androidpk]

Not wrong, but thanks


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1412036269/UglyGirl_1_.jpg

[Parkbandit]

I'll bet you remember the days of making moonshine in your bathtub during the Great Depression. Tell me what people were drinking back in 1901, Great Grandpa Parkbandit.

Damn kid.. remember when you were funny and brought an intelligent comment to a conversation?

Neither do I

[tyrant-201]

Damn kid.. remember when you were funny and brought an intelligent comment to a conversation?

Neither do I

Don't get your depends in a bunch.

[Candor]

Anyone calling Hillary a criminal... have you even stopped to think about Trump's past?

For a second?

How about those of us who question the ethics (or lack thereof) of both candidates?

[Luftstreitkräfte]

I have an acquaintance that drives for Uber in Philadelphia, he said the amount of hookers and blow consumed by DNC suits is too damn high.

[Gelston]

How about those of us who question the ethics (or lack thereof) of both candidates?

We get it, you aren't watching the DNC.

[Parkbandit]

Don't get your depends in a bunch.

Someone's getting sassy... and needs hims pippy

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/z/HYUAAOxyLN9Se2hE/$T2eC16NHJIgFHRF47(prBSe2hDngug~~_32.JPG

[Androidpk]

Pippy?

[Parkbandit]

I have an acquaintance that drives for Uber in Philadelphia, he said the amount of hookers and blow consumed by DNC suits is too damn high.

That's probably a good bet for most politicians, regardless of Party.

[Warriorbird]

We get it, you aren't watching the DNC.

Beware. He might not be watching... this thread!

(Which seems like it might be the winning move.)

[Parkbandit]

Pippy?

Yea.. no idea where that originated from, but it's what we called it.

[tyrant-201]

Pippy?

Probably a century old term. I've never heard of it either.

[Jarvan]

What negative results are you seeing that makes you think it's worse than tobacco and alcohol? Could you really be that stupid? Yes, yes you could.

I never said worse the Alcohol and Tobacco.

But the fact that you claim there has been ZERO negative effects... is just bat shit crazy. I mean.. It's Nancy Pelosi level crazy.

Good job Nancy.

[Fallen]

The one that gets harped on the most is kids getting into edibles. The doctors have no idea what's wrong so they intubate the kids and put them on IVs until they come out of it or realize what's going on. It's a legitimate concern, bad parenting and non-life threatening situations aside.

Car accidents and driver fatalities are another issue, though more controversial depending on the means of determining whether those involved were actually high on the drug or simply had it in their system.

[drauz]

I never said worse the Alcohol and Tobacco.

But the fact that you claim there has been ZERO negative effects... is just bat shit crazy. I mean.. It's Nancy Pelosi level crazy.

Good job Nancy.


And yes.. I think legalizing pot is worse THEN just drinking or smoking tobacco.

.

[Latrinsorm]

How did that work for Germany after WWII?

Our southern board is screwy, but you are telling me that in the 21st century, we can't build a wall that people can't bypass?

Tall wall
Ground Sensors
cameras
Towers
Patrols

It's funny.... I have never heard of someone breaking into Fort Knox. or 3 Mile island. But yet it's a fact that a wall won't work. Go figure.And why don't they just make the whole airplane out of the black box material?
Yeah, again, I'm missing the conversation that the rest of us don't see apparently. I thought that commercial was an amusing spin on it though I obviously appreciate the original. I'm hoping that Virginia legalizes it so we can sell marijuana as well as alcohol.smh another liberal in the pocket of Big Psychosis.
Umm.. We've got multiple states that legalized and there are other countries legalized. No problems there. In fact there has been tons of positives. Less kids smoking, less people popping pills, medicare expenses down, tax revenue skyrocketing, schools being built, better education programs being put out. If we were going to see negative results why haven't we seen any yet?Negative results have occurred everywhere marijuana has been used. I can't explain why you haven't seen them. Dammit pk I'm an empiricist, not an eye doctor.

[Warriorbird]

smh another liberal in the pocket of Big Psychosis.

A conservative in the pocket of Big Pharma, the prison industrial complex, and large scale liquor/tobacco distribution? Quelle horror!

[Latrinsorm]

A conservative in the pocket of Big Pharma, the prison industrial complex, and large scale liquor/tobacco distribution? Quelle horror!No those things are cool, as a marijuana opponent I want to send everyone to jail and make babies smoke cigarettes.

[Warriorbird]

No those things are cool, as a marijuana opponent I want to send everyone to jail and make babies smoke cigarettes.

Or you're secretly pro marijuana. The "War on Drugs" has made them tremendously more popular.

[drauz]

Negative results have occurred everywhere marijuana has been used. I can't explain why you haven't seen them. Dammit pk I'm an empiricist, not an eye doctor.

You can find studies that almost everything can cause cancer these days. I believe there was new research that linked even small amounts of alcohol consumption to like 7 types of cancer. Don't know how reliable it is, as I haven't heard anything but a headline on a news radio station.

[Latrinsorm]

You can find studies that almost everything can cause cancer these days. I believe there was new research that linked even small amounts of alcohol consumption to like 7 types of cancer. Don't know how reliable it is, as I haven't heard anything but a headline on a news radio station.I feel like I have said many times that our current system of some things being illegal and not others involves an arbitrary level of danger, as we agree that everything can be dangerous. This is why I have also said many times the specific numerical level of danger posed by marijuana, and ascertained the specific numerical level of danger posed by other common comparisons. Nobody cares about numbers. These things happen.

[Androidpk]

I never said worse the Alcohol and Tobacco.


And yes.. I think legalizing pot is worse THEN just drinking or smoking tobacco.

.

[Jarvan]

.

You know the part where I say Legalizing?


Yeah. That.

[Androidpk]

For the record I have never said there are 0 consequences to cannabis and I'm pretty sure we've already been over this.

[Androidpk]

You know the part where I say Legalizing?


Yeah. That.

maybe you should clarify yourself then because obviously people are confused about your comment there. The physical act of legalizing is worse than drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes? wut?

[ClydeR]

Obama will speak in about 30 minutes.

Youtube's 360 degree camera is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I46ANy0jFA

While you wait, watch Donald Trump in overalls and Megan Mullally perform Green Acres..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkmOCsI-hc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkmOCsI-hc

[drauz]

I feel like I have said many times that our current system of some things being illegal and not others involves an arbitrary level of danger, as we agree that everything can be dangerous. This is why I have also said many times the specific numerical level of danger posed by marijuana, and ascertained the specific numerical level of danger posed by other common comparisons. Nobody cares about numbers. These things happen.

I don't think its arbitrary. Well except in the case of marijuana. Marijuana sure doesn't have the same effects as heroin or cocaine, but yet marijuana is classified as the same type of drug even after some medical benefits are becoming more evident.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARXHHevvr6Q

[Androidpk]

Obama will speak in about 30 minutes.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz6W0znOfk

[Latrinsorm]

I don't think its arbitrary.We have agreed that everything can be dangerous. Given that, it is literally not possible for some things to be legal and others not unless we establish an arbitrary level of danger as illegal.
Well except in the case of marijuana. Marijuana sure doesn't have the same effects as heroin or cocaine, but yet marijuana is classified as the same type of drug even after some medical benefits are becoming more evident.Marijuana also doesn't have the same effects as Valium or aspirin. I have claimed in the past and am comfortable continuing to claim that it is worse than every currently legal drug except tobacco, therefore both it and tobacco should be illegal.

[Warriorbird]

I have claimed in the past and am comfortable continuing to claim that it is worse than every currently legal drug except tobacco, therefore both it and tobacco should be illegal.

This is only because you love alcohol and give it a nonsensical rationalization because of that. You also purposefully ignore all the secondary effects of the "War on Drugs" because taking them into consideration is too non ivory tower.

[drauz]

We have agreed that everything can be dangerous. Given that, it is literally not possible for some things to be legal and others not unless we establish an arbitrary level of danger as illegal.

I still don't think its all arbitrary, it is based on usefulness as well. Driving cars is probably the most dangerous, but they are extremely useful so they are made legal with barely any restrictions.


Marijuana also doesn't have the same effects as Valium or aspirin. I have claimed in the past and am comfortable continuing to claim that it is worse than every currently legal drug except tobacco, therefore both it and tobacco should be illegal.

Are you comparing Valium and aspirin here? While I agree that every drug has negative effects, I think that people should be able to make their own decisions about how they want to effect their own health. Do you also believe that most items on fast food menus should be illegal? Should food have a maximum calories allowed per serving?

[Parkbandit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz6W0znOfk

That's not fair. He will be reading.

[tyrant-201]

That's not fair. He will be reading.

Damn the old guy's up late tonight. What's got you up past sun-down?

[Jarvan]

Umm.. We've got multiple states that legalized and there are other countries legalized. No problems there. In fact there has been tons of positives. Less kids smoking, less people popping pills, medicare expenses down, tax revenue skyrocketing, schools being built, better education programs being put out. If we were going to see negative results why haven't we seen any yet?


For the record I have never said there are 0 consequences to cannabis and I'm pretty sure we've already been over this.

I do love how you can't read your own words.

I said that there was negative consequences to legalizing it. You said there were no problems. Now you say you never said there was 0 consequences.

So.. which is it... Are there NO PROBLEMS to legalizing it... or are there consequences?

I am sure you with your IQ equal to OJ can find at least ONE news article that has shown a negative effect of the legalization of Pot in just CO for example. Which.. btw... it isn't legal there. Just like a State can't Ban Abortion, a State can't Legalize Pot. The Federal government has just so far failed to enforce the law.