Republican Convention 2016

[ClydeR]

It's starting to come together. Some politicians may be skipping the convention. but Scott Baio and Antonio Sabato, Jr. will be speakers. And you'll be able to watch by remove control..


This year, for the first time, YouTube will live-stream the conventions in 360-degree video — which, depending on your political leanings, is either a thrilling or horrifying prospect. YouTube’s 360 videos provide a wrap-around perspective users can control with their finger on mobile devices or via a mouse cursor on a computer. The live video also will be available to view in virtual reality via Google Cardboard: Are you ready to see Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton in VR?

More... (http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/youtube-facebook-republican-democratic-conventions-1201814474/)

It officially starts at 1:00 PM tomorrow.

[Candor]

Scott Baio and Antonio Sabato, Jr. will be speakers.

who and who?

I won't be watching..

[Gelston]

Look at Candor acting like he has never heard of Happy Days or Charles in Charge.

[Parkbandit]

who and who?

I won't be watching..

If only there was something.. like an information super highway.. where you could go for information. A place where you could search for the name "Scott Baio" and it would give you a picture and help you figure out who it is.

I guess we will just have to wait for the future...

[Androidpk]

Look at Candor acting like he has never heard of Happy Days or Charles in Charge.


:)

[Androidpk]

I may think the GOP platform is complete shit/garbage/bonkers/american taliban but I hope it all goes down safely.

[Candor]

If only there was something.. like an information super highway.. where you could go for information. A place where you could search for the name "Scott Baio" and it would give you a picture and help you figure out who it is.

I guess we will just have to wait for the future...

You really don't get sarcasm, do you?

[Gelston]

You really don't get sarcasm, do you?

Do you?

[Candor]

Do you?

Do you?

[Parkbandit]

You really don't get sarcasm, do you?

http://media2.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/7dYLoac72o3esvIP4b9-OclhDCE/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2014/01/28/179/n/1922398/94bbd5ffc48271ff_tumblr_mm8n7kwbQx1so450so1_1280/i/whole-time-John-Boehner-just-like.gif

[Candor]

Tell you what. You all watch the Republican convention and delude yourselves that Trump has a snowball's chance. Maybe after Clinton gets elected some common sense will force it's way into the minds of the Republican leadership.

[Thondalar]

Tell you what. You all watch the Republican convention and delude yourselves that Trump has a snowball's chance. Maybe after Clinton gets elected some common sense will force it's way into the minds of the Republican leadership.

If there was ever a time for a third party, this is it...I'm hoping beyond hope that Libertarians reach 15% in the polls before the general election debates....

[Androidpk]

If there was ever a time for a third party, this is it...I'm hoping beyond hope that Libertarians reach 15% in the polls before the general election debates....

Ditto. I've been able to vote for the "lesser of two evils" before. Not this time. I can't in good conscience vote for either Trump or Clinton and anyone that does, well, I won't have a very good opinion of them.

[ClydeR]

The 360 camera will be available at https://www.youtube.com/c/gopconvention

There will apparently also be VR cameras, for those of you who like that sort of thing.

[Parkbandit]

Tell you what. You all watch the Republican convention and delude yourselves that Trump has a snowball's chance. Maybe after Clinton gets elected some common sense will force it's way into the minds of the Republican leadership.

Says the guy who's voting 3rd party.

You are the definition of delusional.

[Gelston]

The RNC was pretty exciting so far, there is a channel with a live feed called RNC on ATT Uverse. Just saw the last ditch attempt to block Trump get shut down.

[Androidpk]

Says the guy who's voting 3rd party.

You are the definition of delusional.

Are you not voting?

[Wrathbringer]

Are you not voting?

Oh, I bet he'll vote, and he'll vote for Trump even though Johnson/Weld is easily the best choice of our three options. Johnson is polling consistently at 13% (compared to 3% or something last year), just 2% shy of being eligible to debate and make no mistake, Johnson would own the other two clowns at the party.

[ClydeR]

Scott Baio.. Being an American doesn't mean getting free stuff.

[ClydeR]

It's full Benghazi now.

[ClydeR]

They've spent too much time on the Benghazi play-by-play. At a national convention, you need to do quick turnovers on speakers prior to the main speaker. And tonight's main speaker is Mrs. Trump.

[Androidpk]

Scott Baio.. Being an American doesn't mean getting free stuff.


Asides from a few trivial things like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, ect ect.

[ClydeR]

Antonio Sabato, Jr. did better than I expected. He said he immigrated to this country legally from Italy to become a super model and everybody else who wants to come here should have to do it the same way.

[ClydeR]

David Clarke, the Wisconsin sheriff who got into a fight with Don Lemon on CNN, praised the acquittal of the police officers in the Freddie Gray case in Baltimore. He called the prosecutor out by name and said it was a malicious prosecution. Biggest applause so far.

[ClydeR]

General Michael Flynn, who was nearly Trump's VP.. War is not about bathrooms.

Surely we can all agree with that.

[Androidpk]

War is not about bathrooms.

Surely we can all agree with that.


You ever use a porta-john that's been sitting out in the middle of the desert?

[Jarvan]

Asides from a few trivial things like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, ect ect.

Freedom isn't free.

[Androidpk]

Freedom isn't free.

How much does it cost?

[Gelston]

How much does it cost?

a buck oh five.

[Jarvan]

How much does it cost?

I am sure you are smart enough to look up the loss of life our country has endured to obtain and keep our freedom.

Then again....

[Androidpk]

I am sure you are smart enough to look up the loss of life our country has endured to obtain and keep our freedom.

Then again....

Everyone is smart enough to google for numbers, I was asking you for your price.

[Warriorbird]

The speech they gave Melania (and had her claim she wrote) had an entire paragraph taken from Michelle Obama's 2008 speech.

I suspect there's Republican saboteurs in the Trump campaign.

[Jarvan]

Everyone is smart enough to google for numbers, I was asking you for your price.

Apparently the price for freedom is thieving assholes like you.

[Gelston]

The speech they gave Melania (and had her claim she wrote) had an entire paragraph taken from Michelle Obama's 2008 speech.

I suspect there's Republican saboteurs in the Trump campaign.

No one seems to realize she rickrolled the entire convention. "Donald Trump is never going to give you up. Donald Trump is never going to let you down."

[Androidpk]

Apparently the price for freedom is thieving assholes like you.

Are you high?

[Warriorbird]

No one seems to realize she rickrolled the entire convention. "Donald Trump is never going to give you up. Donald Trump is never going to let you down."

Ha ha ha. Now they're claiming she wrote all of it.

[GS4Pirate]

Ha ha ha. Now they're claiming she wrote all of it.

Thought I would place this here to show how fucking stupid the Democrat nominee is. I completely understand your need to detract from Hillary's incompetence.


https://youtu.be/vVD0pvWL6R4

[Warriorbird]

Thought I would place this here to show how fucking stupid the Democrat nominee is. I completely understand your need to detract from Hillary's incompetence.


https://youtu.be/vVD0pvWL6R4

But Democrats!

[GS4Pirate]

Hillary's positive gangs


https://youtu.be/twbuT1V5mFE

[Warriorbird]

Hillary's positive gangs


https://youtu.be/twbuT1V5mFE

Double but Democrats!

[GS4Pirate]

But Democrats!

Because Trumps wife is running for office.

[Warriorbird]

Because Trumps wife is running for office.

So you haven't ever criticized a politician's spouse before?

With that said I blame this on Trump and his campaign. I don't believe she plagiarized the speech or insisted on the strange defense.

[Parkbandit]

So you haven't ever criticized a politician's spouse before?

With that said I blame this on Trump and his campaign. I don't believe she plagiarized the speech or insisted on the strange defense.

I think that part of the speech was just too similar not to be lifted. If she sticks by her claim that she wrote it all by herself.. fucking own it. "Yes.. I found the First Lady's speech very memorable and inspirational and looking back, it clearly struck a cord in my life and while when writing the speech, I thought these were my ideas, but clearly her words affected me so deeply that it became part of me. I apologize to Mrs. Obama, for plagiarizing her impassioned speech was not my intention"

Boom.

I will say that there are parts that people are pointing to that are cliches and many people use them.. but the way the speech was put together in that paragraph, it was too close not to be lifted.

[Taernath]

No one seems to realize she rickrolled the entire convention. "Donald Trump is never going to give you up. Donald Trump is never going to let you down."

Are you fucking serious.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KtzdP7mR-4

[GS4Pirate]

So you haven't ever criticized a politician's spouse before?

With that said I blame this on Trump and his campaign. I don't believe she plagiarized the speech or insisted on the strange defense.

Other than the cereal rapist Billy, no.

[Parkbandit]

Are you fucking serious.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KtzdP7mR-4


"He will never give up" is not the same as "He will never give you up"

[drauz]

"He will never give up" is not the same as "He will never give you up"

That could just be her accent.

[Parkbandit]

That could just be her accent.

I loved how so many liberals were making fun of it last night on social media.. like my sister.

I bet if she was an illegal alien, speaking about how we should have open borders, they would be like "OMG YES YES 1000x YES!"

[GS4Pirate]

I loved how so many liberals were making fun of it last night on social media.. like my sister.

I bet if she was an illegal alien, speaking about how we should have open borders, they would be like "OMG YES YES 1000x YES!"

God knows the democrats can't focus on policy, after 8 years of complete incompetence how can they?

[GS4Pirate]

https://youtu.be/a3RfxNJBArU

[GS4Pirate]

OMG, Trumps wife's speech sounds like Michelles! OMG, OMG.

Hillary completely lies about....everything, totally the best option since Thomas Jefferson.

You can't make this shit up.

[Androidpk]

When some liberals are more outraged over a plagiarized speech than their own candidate being a career criminal/liar.. SMH

[Warriorbird]

When some liberals are more outraged over a plagiarized speech than their own candidate being a career criminal/liar.. SMH

Outraged is more a conservative media description.

Haven't you spent the last several days calling out people for "But Democrats!"

Political campaigns are capable of being problematic in singularity.


OMG, Trumps wife's speech sounds like Michelles! OMG, OMG.

Hillary completely lies about....everything, totally the best option since Thomas Jefferson.

You can't make this shit up.

Is that like "But Democrats!" X6?

I'm not seeing "All Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers!" and registering all members of religions as somehow superior. That should tell you something.

[GS4Pirate]

WB: More concerns about a speech than a rapist husband and a criminal candidate.

[Warriorbird]

WB: More concerns about a speech than a rapist husband and a criminal candidate.

But Democrats X7!

I'm more concerned about Donald Trump having the ability to start nuclear war than I am the female Frank Underwood.

[GS4Pirate]

But Democrats X7!

I'm more concerned about Donald Trump having the ability to start nuclear war than I am the female Frank Underwood.

Because starting a nuclear war is like turning in the coffee pot in the morning.

Do you have this cartoon vision of a black box with a red button labeled "launch nukes" at the Presidential bedside?

[Warriorbird]

Because starting a nuclear war is like turning in the coffee pot in the morning.

Do you have this cartoon vision of a black box with a red button labeled "launch nukes" at the Presidential bedside?

No. I have a nightmare vision of a cartoonish President.

You're worried about a career politician. I'm worried about emulation of Putin.

[ClydeR]

After his speech, he gave quite an interview..


Actor, former underwear model and reality show star Antonio Sabato Jr. — who stumped for Donald Trump on the floor of the Republican National Convention Monday — told ABC News that he "absolutely" believes President Barack Obama is a Muslim.

More... (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/antonio-sabato-jr-absolutely-obamas-muslim-rnc-speech/story?id=40687052)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJU-n9VFNEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJU-n9VFNEg

[GS4Pirate]

No. I have a nightmare vision of a cartoonish President.

You're worried about a career politician. I'm worried about emulation of Putin.

Putin started a nuclear war?

So you want another President with Putin's dick in their mouth?

Wait, I thought we were all cool with Putin since Clinton gave him a reset button?

[Kembal]

No one seems to realize she rickrolled the entire convention. "Donald Trump is never going to give you up. Donald Trump is never going to let you down."

pretty sure the rickroll was also lifted from Michelle Obama's speech too.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/melania-trump-michelle-obama-convention-remarks

Would like PB to explain how they're not disorganized buffoons at this point.

[Warriorbird]

Putin started a nuclear war?

So you want another President with Putin's dick in their mouth?

Wait, I thought we were all cool with Putin since Clinton gave him a reset button?

No, he's a dictator. Erdogan would be another comparison.

As for the nuclear war? I could see Trump raging out and nuking somebody even before Putin would.

Just because you think invisible world me likes Putin doesn't mean I do though.


pretty sure the rickroll was also lifted from Michelle Obama's speech too.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/melania-trump-michelle-obama-convention-remarks

Would like PB to explain how they're not disorganized buffoons at this point.

Amazing.

[Androidpk]

The Republican party just needs to go away. Ditto for the dems. Time to bring on the JV squads.

[GS4Pirate]

"Cartoonish President"
"Totally unorganized"

You mean like not having any security settings on a private e-mail server you set up to handle top secret documents so you can circumvent PIA laws. Is that the kind of cartoonish and I disorganization we are talking about ?

[GS4Pirate]

"Raging out"

That's not how any of this works.

[Warriorbird]

"Raging out"

That's not how any of this works.

It is if the President is a nutjob.


"Cartoonish President"
"Totally unorganized"

You mean like not having any security settings on a private e-mail server you set up to handle top secret documents so you can circumvent PIA laws. Is that the kind of cartoonish and I disorganization we are talking about ?

I prefer poor security settings to crushing dissent.


The Republican party just needs to go away. Ditto for the dems. Time to bring on the JV squads.

Johnson may pull the highest Libertarian totals ever. I'm good with that.

[Parkbandit]

"All Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers!" and registering all members of religions as somehow superior. That should tell you something.

Trump says plenty of things that are outrageous.. there's no need to put your own stupidity into it to attempt to make it sound worse.

[Androidpk]

It is if the President is a nutjob.



I prefer poor security settings to crushing dissent.



Johnson may pull the highest Libertarian totals ever. I'm good with that.

I'd be happy seeing him on the debate floor with trump and hillary.

[Parkbandit]

pretty sure the rickroll was also lifted from Michelle Obama's speech too.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/melania-trump-michelle-obama-convention-remarks

Would like PB to explain how they're not disorganized buffoons at this point.

Wait... if a Presidential nominee or his wife takes a couple phrases from another speech.. it's a completely disorganized buffoon show?

You sure about that?

[Parkbandit]

The Republican party just needs to go away. Ditto for the dems. Time to bring on the JV squads.

They aren't even considered JV at this point. Pee Wee maybe. Pre-little league perhaps.

Not even close to JV.

[Wrathbringer]

They aren't even considered JV at this point. Pee Wee maybe. Pre-little league perhaps.

Not even close to JV.

Two two term governors isn't even jv, huh?

[Wrathbringer]

I'd be happy seeing him on the debate floor with trump and hillary.

I'd be ecstatic. Come on 2%! I expect the Pence nomination will drive more of the socially progressive Republicans to vote Libertarian, so I expect we'll see 15%...whether that equates to a debate appearance, who knows. 3rd party candidates know all about being screwed over by the establishment.

[Parkbandit]

Two two term governors isn't even jv, huh?

Are you referring to Johnson?

[Fallen]

Sort of a let me google that for you question, but how does one go about having their voice added to the polling numbers towards raising the percentage of people voting libertarian? Do you have to register for the party? Get caught in a random land line pole? What data are they using to establish this +/- 15% Libertarian statistic?

[Wrathbringer]

Are you referring to Johnson?

and his running mate Weld, yes. Most experienced ticket in a long while.

[Parkbandit]

and his running mate Weld, yes. Most experienced ticket in a long while.

Johnson was elected Governor as a Republican.. not a Libertarian.

Like it or not, the 2 main parties hold a great deal of power and will not be willing to relinquish it anytime soon... which makes me support Trump.

Republicans hate Trump because he's an outsider and they want to determine who is the next nominee.

Burn the system to the ground... vote Trump.

[Wrathbringer]

Johnson was elected Governor as a Republican.. not a Libertarian.

Like it or not, the 2 main parties hold a great deal of power and will not be willing to relinquish it anytime soon... which makes me support Trump.

Republicans hate Trump because he's an outsider and they want to determine who is the next nominee.

Burn the system to the ground... vote Trump.

By voting for the system? Oookaaayy. Keep trying that if you like.

[Kembal]

Wait... if a Presidential nominee or his wife takes a couple phrases from another speech.. it's a completely disorganized buffoon show?

You sure about that?

On a primetime speech at the Republican National Convention? On speeches that are generally vetted meticulously at every other convention (Democratic or Republican) by a designated team of staff who make sure to read every line aloud so that they can tell if it sounds right verbally?

Yes, I'm sure about that. This isn't just some random stump speech. It's a speech in front of a national television audience. The whole convention is supposed to be an infomercial for your campaign. This specific speech (by the spouse) is supposed to introduce the candidate in a deeply personal way by the person that should know him the best. There should be no way that it plagiarizes another speech at all. Look at Ann Romney's speech from 2012 (which was a very good speech), Michelle Obama's speech from 2008, etc.

You want to keep living in denial about how badly run the Trump campaign is, be my guest. After all, you're the one who "likes his chances".

[Kembal]

Sort of a let me google that for you question, but how does one go about having their voice added to the polling numbers towards raising the percentage of people voting libertarian? Do you have to register for the party? Get caught in a random land line pole? What data are they using to establish this +/- 15% Libertarian statistic?

Get sampled in a random poll. If you don't have a landline, that's going to be more difficult - only a few polling organizations are making sure to sample cell phones.

[Fallen]

Get sampled in a random poll. If you don't have a landline, that's going to be more difficult - only a few polling organizations are making sure to sample cell phones.

Thanks. Not even my 60+ year old parents have land lines anymore. They need to come up with a better system.

[Kembal]

Thanks. Not even my 60+ year old parents have land lines anymore. They need to come up with a better system.

It's a cost issue. You can't use robodialers and/or automated surveys to call cell phones by law - a human has to be involved. Hence, you'll see surveys that don't include a cell phone sample (they don't want to pay the money to do it). The polling orgs try to correct for this in their weighting, but they're making guesses as to what the electorate will look like. I believe the general evidence shows that without a cell phone sample, a poll is more likely to lean Republican than is otherwise warranted, but I haven't looked at any of the latest work on this in a couple of years.

[Parkbandit]

On a primetime speech at the Republican National Convention? On speeches that are generally vetted meticulously at every other convention (Democratic or Republican) by a designated team of staff who make sure to read every line aloud so that they can tell if it sounds right verbally?

Yes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc&feature=youtu.be

And these weren't cliches like Mrs. Trump was saying last night.


Yes, I'm sure about that. This isn't just some random stump speech. It's a speech in front of a national television audience. The whole convention is supposed to be an infomercial for your campaign. This specific speech (by the spouse) is supposed to introduce the candidate in a deeply personal way by the person that should know him the best. There should be no way that it plagiarizes another speech at all. Look at Ann Romney's speech from 2012 (which was a very good speech), Michelle Obama's speech from 2008, etc.

You want to keep living in denial about how badly run the Trump campaign is, be my guest. After all, you're the one who "likes his chances".

Dude, you said his campaign was so bad.. and for evidence you said he hasn't even ran any commercials yet. Don't be all upset because I made you look foolish... it happens.

You should be used to it at this point. :)

[Parkbandit]

Thanks. Not even my 60+ year old parents have land lines anymore. They need to come up with a better system.

Many polling companies don't exclusively use land lines anymore.

[Parkbandit]

It's a cost issue. You can't use robodialers and/or automated surveys to call cell phones by law - a human has to be involved. Hence, you'll see surveys that don't include a cell phone sample (they don't want to pay the money to do it). The polling orgs try to correct for this in their weighting, but they're making guesses as to what the electorate will look like. I believe the general evidence shows that without a cell phone sample, a poll is more likely to lean Republican than is otherwise warranted, but I haven't looked at any of the latest work on this in a couple of years.

Are you sure about this? I get robocalls on my cellphone daily.

[Merala]

Are you sure about this? I get robocalls on my cellphone daily.

They're not supposed to without permission. That's why your bank or other places you do business with will ask you specifically if it's okay to call you with an automatic dialer.

[Kembal]

Are you sure about this? I get robocalls on my cellphone daily.

So do I. It's the same thing every time - "I'm <name> from consumer card services" or some such. I hang up immediately, because I assume it's a scam of some sort. I probably should report the phone numbers calling to the FTC.

[Kembal]

Yes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc&feature=youtu.be

And these weren't cliches like Mrs. Trump was saying last night.

National convention speech. Please keep that distinction in mind. There is a vast degree of difference between campaign stump speeches and speeches at the national convention.


Dude, you said his campaign was so bad.. and for evidence you said he hasn't even ran any commercials yet. Don't be all upset because I made you look foolish... it happens.

I'm surprised you think that not running ads is a sign of campaign strength in the general election.

Let's put it this way: Trump will need to massively outperform Romney's 2012 showing amongst whites, because he's certainly not going to outperform him on every other demographic. There's no evidence that his campaign is doing so.

[Parkbandit]

So do I. It's the same thing every time - "I'm <name> from consumer card services" or some such. I hang up immediately, because I assume it's a scam of some sort. I probably should report the phone numbers calling to the FTC.

Yea.. I probably get 5-10 calls a week. The most notorious one is a robo-call from Google, telling me my non-existent Google listing is in jeopardy of being cancelled!!!

[Parkbandit]

National convention speech. Please keep that distinction in mind. There is a vast degree of difference between campaign stump speeches and speeches at the national convention.

There is a vast difference between a wife of a nominee giving a speech and a Presidential Candidate... please keep that HUGE (YUGE) distinction in mind.


I'm surprised you think that not running ads is a sign of campaign strength in the general election.

Not having to spend money on advertising and gaining on Hillary's big lead seems to be a strength.


Let's put it this way: Trump will need to massively outperform Romney's 2012 showing amongst whites, because he's certainly not going to outperform him on every other demographic. There's no evidence that his campaign is doing so.

No evidence.. well, except him receiving more votes than any other candidate in history, despite being 1 of 17 candidates.

[drauz]

http://i.imgur.com/Re7h8o4.png

[Latrinsorm]

I suspect there's Republican saboteurs in the Trump campaign.Including Donald Trump.
Sort of a let me google that for you question, but how does one go about having their voice added to the polling numbers towards raising the percentage of people voting libertarian? Do you have to register for the party? Get caught in a random land line pole? What data are they using to establish this +/- 15% Libertarian statistic?The CPD also gets to pick which polls count. In 2012 they picked "ABC News/The Washington Post, NBC News/The Wall Street Journal, CBS News/The New York Times, Fox News and Gallup." which is a hilarious non-use of the Oxford comma. To my knowledge they haven't yet announced what they're using for 2016, but I would guess the same five.
No evidence.. well, except him receiving more votes than any other candidate in history, despite being 1 of 17 candidates.Despite, or because of? Surely a more competitive primary would engage more interest than a runaway, no?

[m444w]

Political campaigns are not subjected to the Do Not Call Registry, and are free to robocall you.

However the FTC also allows carriers to automatically drop detected robocalls (as long as they are not for anti-fraud services/etc)

So it just depends on what carrier you use, and how aggressive they are with anti-robo-tech a polito-robo-call makes it through to you

[Fallen]

No one here is willing to bet Trump is going to win. I haven't met anyone that thinks he is going to win. Right, wrong, whatever. I just don't see it happening.

[RichardCranium]

No one here is willing to bet Trump is going to win. I haven't met anyone that thinks he is going to win. Right, wrong, whatever. I just don't see it happening.

It won't happen. And I don't think Hillary will be the end of the world. Just status quo.

I'm more ashamed that this is the best that we can come up with. At least we had to wait until half a term each to realize that for the last two. And we reelected them.

We know going into this one we're fucked. Maybe that's the first step.

[Merala]

No one here is willing to bet Trump is going to win. I haven't met anyone that thinks he is going to win. Right, wrong, whatever. I just don't see it happening.

My boyfriend is convinced that Donald Trump is running to make sure that Hillary Clinton wins. He's pretty sure they decided on this ahead of time. To be honest, it wouldn't at all surprise me with the way this campaign has been run.

[Gelston]

I think just about ANY other candidate would annihilate Hillary. Trump is the perfect candidate for her to win against.

[Parkbandit]

No one here is willing to bet Trump is going to win. I haven't met anyone that thinks he is going to win. Right, wrong, whatever. I just don't see it happening.

I think he's going to win, though you've never met me.

You under estimate how much of a crooked bitch Hillary is.

[Gelston]

Tiffany Trump sounds like a robot.

[drauz]

I think he's going to win, though you've never met me.

You under estimate how much of a crooked bitch Hillary is.

I think you underestimate how much of a crooked asshole Trump is.

[ClydeR]

The best thing so far today was when Ben Carson said in his speech that Clinton is a follower of Lucifer.

[Merala]

The best thing so far today was when Ben Carson said in his speech that Clinton is a follower of Lucifer.

I felt like Ben Carson was the weakest of the bunch to be honest.

[Fallen]

I think he's going to win, though you've never met me.

You under estimate how much of a crooked bitch Hillary is.

Fair enough. Let me know if you ever want to put money on it and we'll come to terms.

[Fallen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhpd_EcCz78

UFC Promoter Dana White speaking at the RNC

[Taernath]

UFC Promoter Dana White speaking at the RNC

Should have gotten Don King to speak to lock down the black vote.

Also, it's time to post those Donald Trump WWE gifs.


http://i.imgur.com/Qyw5Abv.gif

http://i.makeagif.com/media/7-28-2015/VGz10i.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/7K9BpJOiiikXm/giphy.gif
Oddly prophetic...

[Candor]

I'm not watching (no time nor inclination). Anything going on to dispel the belief that Clinton will completely trounce Trump in November?

[drauz]

http://i.imgur.com/gI8tNbe.jpg

[Jarvan]

Fair enough. Let me know if you ever want to put money on it and we'll come to terms.

Whomever wins, America Losses.

[Gelston]

I'm not watching (no time nor inclination). Anything going on to dispel the belief that Clinton will completely trounce Trump in November?

Glad to hear you say you aren't watching again. We were waiting with bated breath to know if you had changed you mind after saying you weren't watching 500000 times.

[Wrathbringer]

Glad to hear you say you aren't watching again. We were waiting with bated breath to know if you had changed you mind after saying you weren't watching 500000 times.

I think he has you on ignore.

[Androidpk]

Whomever wins, America Losses.


America has been losing because of politicians for the past 20+ years. This election is nothing new.

[Gelston]

I think he has you on ignore.

He's responded to me recently.

[Parkbandit]

Glad to hear you say you aren't watching again. We were waiting with bated breath to know if you had changed you mind after saying you weren't watching 500000 times.

I wonder if Candor is going to watch tonight!? I CANNOT WAIT TO FIND OUT!

[Wrathbringer]

I wonder if Candor is going to watch tonight!? I CANNOT WAIT TO FIND OUT!

:lol:

[Warriorbird]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0l9TwWEAI9ZA3.jpg

[Candor]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0l9TwWEAI9ZA3.jpg

So in other words, Clinton is still on a roll to trounce Trump. Got it.

[Wrathbringer]

So in other words, Clinton is still on a roll to trounce Trump. Got it.

So in other words, you're mostly retarded. Got it.

[Parkbandit]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0l9TwWEAI9ZA3.jpg



Whether that is the truth or something someone in the PR department concocted.. why didn't that come out on Day 1 instead of insisting it wasn't lifted from Michelle Obama's speech?

[Parkbandit]

So in other words, Clinton is still on a roll to trounce Trump. Got it.

OMG ARE YOU WATCHING THE CONVENTION TONIGHT OR NOT!?!?

[Kembal]

Whether that is the truth or something someone in the PR department concocted.. why didn't that come out on Day 1 instead of insisting it wasn't lifted from Michelle Obama's speech?

Even funnier, she's not on the campaign payroll. The speech appears to be an illegal in-kind corporate contribution to the campaign, and the note being on Trump organization letterhead suggests that as well.

the other possibility, of course, is that she doesn't actually exist. that's been running speculation today on Twitter, fueled by social media accounts in her name popping up only in the last day or so.

[Parkbandit]

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13697269_1077519482332354_8732154654384478439_n.jp g?oh=7d65e01634c36eecc811a9d220170bb1&oe=58198BCF

[Fallen]

Cruz isn't endorsing Trump. Guess the guy has a bigger spine than Sanders.

[ClydeR]

Pandemonium!

[Gelston]

Pandemonium!

http://www.theuntz.com/media/member/2/8/5/28553/pandamonium_raw.jpg

[ClydeR]

Whether that is the truth or something someone in the PR department concocted.. why didn't that come out on Day 1 instead of insisting it wasn't lifted from Michelle Obama's speech?

It's time for one of my famous predictions. Meredith will get a yuge bonus this year.

[ClydeR]

Pandemonium!


To elaborate..


Boos filled the convention hall in Cleveland as one-time presidential candidate Ted Cruz finished his prime-time speech to Republican activists.

The jeers rained down after the Texas senator refused to endorse Trump - now the official GOP presidential nominee - in his address.

Cruz finished second to Trump in the delegate count and the two were bitter rivals during the primary campaign.

Cruz told supporters to vote their conscience - and not to stay home for the general election in November.

The boos stopped once Trump entered the convention hall.

More... (http://www.knoxnews.com/happening-now/387613281.xhtml)


Just because Trump gave Cruz the nickname "Lyin' Ted," said Cruz's wife was ugly, and accused Cruz's dad of killing JFK, Cruz decided he didn't have to endorse Trump. It's bad form.

[Kembal]

Cruz isn't endorsing Trump. Guess the guy has a bigger spine than Sanders.

Which is one thing, but letting him say it in a primetime slot at the convention?

Totally disorganized buffoons. No other explanation.

[Gelston]

Which is one thing, but letting him say it in a primetime slot at the convention?

Totally disorganized buffoons. No other explanation.

You know, all the speeches are vetted. I bet he went off speech.

[Kembal]

You know, all the speeches are vetted. I bet he went off speech.

That's the thing! He didn't. The advance copy of his remarks has those exact lines in there. The RNC (and by extension, Trump's campaign) had it already and didn't stop him!

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/755958799945633792

[Taernath]

You know, all the speeches are vetted. I bet he went off speech.

Maybe the speech Cruz read from was in a strange, unreadable cipher and they couldn't confirm it's contents.

[Wesley]

http://pre09.deviantart.net/2804/th/pre/f/2016/117/5/2/the_donald_by_sharpwriter-da0eh6b.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Which is one thing, but letting him say it in a primetime slot at the convention?

Totally disorganized buffoons. No other explanation.

Really? I thought it was brilliant.

There hasn't been anything to galvanize Republican support behind Trump.. until this. The crowd went totally nuts against Cruz.. and when Trump came out, it was.. yuge. When asked how he felt about the speech Cruz gave, Trump said "I loved it"

Either Trump has been completely lucky with everything that has happened in the past year.. or he's been brilliantly manipulating the media and voters into supporting him.

[Parkbandit]

That's the thing! He didn't. The advance copy of his remarks has those exact lines in there. The RNC (and by extension, Trump's campaign) had it already and didn't stop him!

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/755958799945633792

Exactly.. so either he was extremely fortunate that they booed Cruz off the stage last night and embraced him last night... or they anticipated that it would happen and let it go.

Either scenario.. it was in Trump's favor.

[Wrathbringer]

Exactly.. so either he was extremely fortunate that they booed Cruz off the stage last night and embraced him last night... or they anticipated that it would happen and let it go.

Either scenario.. it was in Trump's favor.

Trump said he saw the speech two hours prior and let hmm give it anyway, calling it "No big deal."

[Wrathbringer]

That's the thing! He didn't. The advance copy of his remarks has those exact lines in there. The RNC (and by extension, Trump's campaign) had it already and didn't stop him!

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/755958799945633792

Which turned out to be sheer genius, huh. Get some, Libby. Best part is, you thought it was a dumb move. Lol

[Fallen]

Wait. We're calling the non-endorsement of yet another Republican, at his own convention no less, as an out-and-out Trump win? Okay.

[Parkbandit]

Wait. We're calling the non-endorsement of yet another Republican, at his own convention no less, as an out-and-out Trump win? Okay.

Absolutely.

[Kembal]

Exactly.. so either he was extremely fortunate that they booed Cruz off the stage last night and embraced him last night... or they anticipated that it would happen and let it go.

Either scenario.. it was in Trump's favor.

I will change my assessment to organized buffoons that live in an alternate reality.

I'm curious to see what Trump's convention bounce will be now in the polling. My guess is very little, but PB's seems pretty sure that this is a win, so I'll just wait and see.

[Wesley]

I will change my assessment to organized buffoons that live in an alternate reality.

I'm curious to see what Trump's convention bounce will be now in the polling. My guess is very little, but PB's seems pretty sure that this is a win, so I'll just wait and see.

PB also thinks I'm a hippy for some reason, so I'd take him with a grain of salt. Maybe it's my stance that we should be much more liberal on the application of nuclear weapons in warzones now that science has come to mostly agree that the long term effects aren't nearly as devastating as they were thought to be in the 50s. Because that sentence has the word "liberal" in it.

http://orig02.deviantart.net/faa7/f/2015/183/7/9/george_dubya_bush_by_sharpwriter-d8zllx1.jpg

[Parkbandit]

I will change my assessment to organized buffoons that live in an alternate reality.

I love how you have underestimated him from the beginning.


I'm curious to see what Trump's convention bounce will be now in the polling. My guess is very little, but PB's seems pretty sure that this is a win, so I'll just wait and see.

I'd say it depends on his speech tonight.

[Kembal]

PB also thinks I'm a hippy for some reason, so I'd take him with a grain of salt. Maybe it's my stance that we should be much more liberal on the application of nuclear weapons in warzones now that science has come to mostly agree that the long term effects aren't nearly as devastating as they were thought to be in the 50s. Because that sentence has the word "liberal" in it.


Well, the current reporting is that yes, Trump's people knew it in advance and whipped up boos from the crowd, but then the RNC had Newt adlib his remarks to try and mitigate some of the damage.

They succeeded in making Cruz a villain with the Republican base.

How the hell this helps them win the general election, I don't understand, because certainly any independent looking at this would think these folks have no clue what they're doing, but PB seems sure this was all a victory for Trump, so who knows.

[Parkbandit]

PB also thinks I'm a hippy for some reason, so I'd take him with a grain of salt. Maybe it's my stance that we should be much more liberal on the application of nuclear weapons in warzones now that science has come to mostly agree that the long term effects aren't nearly as devastating as they were thought to be in the 50s. Because that sentence has the word "liberal" in it.


OMG YOU DID A WORD PLAY!

Here, have a cookie. I don't know why, but they somehow remind me of the content of most of your posts:

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2013-09/enhanced/webdr01/27/13/enhanced-buzz-16754-1380301871-22.jpg

[ClydeR]

After Certain Problems at the convention, the rumor is that Trump is considering replacing his campaign manager.


Still, as of this morning, with Ailes nearly as much a subject in Cleveland at the Republican convention among political professionals as Trump himself (the rumor of Ailes replacing Paul Manafort as campaign manager is an active one, with a further rumor putting Trump in favor of this and his children against it), the negotiation continues.

More... (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-wolff-roger-ailes-stunning-912772)

[Parkbandit]

Well, the current reporting is that yes, Trump's people knew it in advance and whipped up boos from the crowd, but then the RNC had Newt adlib his remarks to try and mitigate some of the damage.

They succeeded in making Cruz a villain with the Republican base.

Cruz made himself out as the villain for whatever reason. He has a habit of doing this wherever he goes.. look at all the "support" he has from his fellow Senators. He's a douchebag lawyer who comes across as a douchebag lawyer. Go figure.


How the hell this helps them win the general election, I don't understand, because certainly any independent looking at this would think these folks have no clue what they're doing, but PB seems sure this was all a victory for Trump, so who knows.

Holy run on sentences...

I think Trump looked more sympathetic in the eyes of many people last night. You have this gigantic douchebag, slimeball lawyer still crying over not winning and he was soundly booed off the stage last night. He looked small and insignificant. Then you have Trump walk in to hear his son's speech to a standing ovation and completely upstaging him.

You think it was all just dumb luck. I believe it was staged.

No one promotes himself better than Trump.

No one uses the media better than Trump.

[Wesley]

OMG YOU DID A WORD PLAY!


Here, have a cookie. I don't know why, but they somehow remind me of the content of most of your posts:





Ahhhh, I see where you and I differ on opinion. You seem to think that your time spent... here... spouting frothy-mouthed jibber-rage on an internet forum against other people who are as equally firmly entrenched in their own viewpoints as you, is somehow...productive? I hold no such illusions, and reserve the right to find enjoyment in my posts rather than work under the pretense of productivity.


http://pre00.deviantart.net/7994/th/pre/i/2013/182/6/6/richard_nixon_fighting_a_saber_tooth_tiger_by_shar pwriter-d6bln06.jpg

[Warriorbird]

Ahhhh, I see where you and I differ on opinion. You seem to think that your time spent... here... spouting frothy-mouthed jibber-rage on an internet forum against other people who are as equally firmly entrenched in their own viewpoints as you, is somehow...productive? I hold no such illusions, and reserve the right to find enjoyment in my posts rather than work under the pretense of productivity.


http://pre00.deviantart.net/7994/th/pre/i/2013/182/6/6/richard_nixon_fighting_a_saber_tooth_tiger_by_shar pwriter-d6bln06.jpg

I do love those sharpwriter images. I have four posters up in my classroom. Bipartisan too!

[Taernath]

Wait. We're calling the non-endorsement of yet another Republican, at his own convention no less, as an out-and-out Trump win? Okay.

Yeah dude, Trump is manipulating everything with his double reverse economic psycho-hypnotism as outlined in The Art of the Deal. Even if he loses this election, it will still be a win because he wanted to.

[Jeril]

Well, the current reporting is that yes, Trump's people knew it in advance and whipped up boos from the crowd, but then the RNC had Newt adlib his remarks to try and mitigate some of the damage.

They succeeded in making Cruz a villain with the Republican base.

How the hell this helps them win the general election, I don't understand, because certainly any independent looking at this would think these folks have no clue what they're doing, but PB seems sure this was all a victory for Trump, so who knows.

You seem to be going off the bases that people are just as informed about this process as you are. You aren't looking at this from the point of view of the people you are talking about. You also seem to be missing the draw of Trump for people is that he is anti establishment and all these big established politicians not backing him is just strengthening that appeal.

You talk about the polls but I've seen several articles saying that those polls are slanted to favor Hilary to make it seem like she is winning by more then she is, if she is even winning at all.

People who have made up their minds already on who they are going to vote for aren't likely going to change them. It is the people who are on the fence that matter and I haven't seen anything lately that would make them favor Hilary over Trump. I haven't seen Trump really do much either but little bits and pieces can add up unless Hilary actually does something.

Whoever wins this election it seems like America loses. I wonder what it would take for most of you to quit voting for such people but the system is set up to make that rather difficult I believe.

[Candor]

I wonder if Candor is going to watch tonight!? I CANNOT WAIT TO FIND OUT!

Hey Parky...I wasn't watching...now you know :)

snicker...

[Wrathbringer]

I personally think Trump would be miles better than crooked hillary. I also think Gary Johnson would be miles better than Trump.

[Parkbandit]

Ahhhh, I see where you and I differ on opinion. You seem to think that your time spent... here... spouting frothy-mouthed jibber-rage on an internet forum against other people who are as equally firmly entrenched in their own viewpoints as you, is somehow...productive? I hold no such illusions, and reserve the right to find enjoyment in my posts rather than work under the pretense of productivity.


You have no clue.. at anything.. as evidenced by your posts.

I've never, ever stated that this forum is a productive venture. At all. It's exactly the opposite.

Making fun of a really stupid person like yourself is just entertaining to me. Call it a character flaw.

[Parkbandit]

Hey Parky...I wasn't watching...now you know :)

snicker...

snicker..?

Holy hell...

[Parkbandit]

I personally think Trump would be miles better than crooked hillary. I also think Gary Johnson would be miles better than Trump.

Which one has the ability to beat Hillary though?

A vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary since he has no path to victory.

[Wesley]

You have no clue.. at anything.. as evidenced by your posts.


I've never, ever stated that this forum is a productive venture. At all. It's exactly the opposite.


Making fun of a really stupid person like yourself is just entertaining to me. Call it a character flaw.


You better be careful, buddy. I know Karate. And my dad works for the FBI and I know your IP address and I can hack you anytime I want and delete all your computer and three gangs at my school tried to recruit me because I'm pretty good with a bo staff. Girls like guys with great skills.

[Wrathbringer]

Which one has the ability to beat Hillary though?

A vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary since he has no path to victory.

A vote for Johnson is a vote for Johnson, as much as that chaps your die-hard republican ass.

eta: die-hard republican

[Back]

The previous two conventions were total shit shows. Not surprised this one is the trifecta. At this rate we won't have a republican president in another 8 years.

Look out congress. I see a democratic windfall.

[Androidpk]

I don't always side with WB but when I do it's because I'm correct.

[Latrinsorm]

But why does the shark have a cowbell?

[drauz]

But why does the shark have a cowbell?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKuu-hlR88o

[Androidpk]

Whoever let Thiel speak should be fired, what a tool.

[ClydeR]

(CNN)Donald Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort said Thursday the FBI's statistics on crime should be viewed skeptically since the agency recommended that Hillary Clinton not be charged for her use of private email.

CNN's Jake Tapper asked in an interview why the campaign emphasizes fears of rising crime levels even though FBI data shows a drop.

More... (http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/politics/paul-manafort-fbi-statistics-hillary-clinton/)

I'm told Trump will use the corrected crime stats in his speech tonight.

[Jarvan]

A vote for Johnson is a vote for Johnson, as much as that chaps your die-hard republican ass.

eta: die-hard republican

A vote for Gandalf isn't a vote for Gandalf. There is no way Johnson is going to win NY, CA, NJ, PA.. etc etc etc. A registered Republican voting for Johnson is in effect, a vote for Hillary. A Democrat voting Johnson is a Vote for Trump.

Last poll I saw had Johnson at 13%. While that is huge really for a third party... it won't win a single state.

It's just like CA really... There are 7.4 mill registered Dems. 4.7 Mill registered Repubs. 4.1 Mill registered Independents.
Republican Votes in CA are basically worthless. Frankly.. they should all move to like.. NY and flip that state for 2020.

[Warriorbird]

13% would be an extraordinary impact. Johnson would get power to shift and alter the Republicans... or press for legislative representation.

[Jarvan]

13% would be an extraordinary impact. Johnson would get power to shift and alter the Republicans... or press for legislative representation.

He would't get power to shift and alter Dems? Or do you always just say things would be bad for Republicans because it's your goto statement.

[ClydeR]

This speech will repel wealthy donors.

[Warriorbird]

He would't get power to shift and alter Dems? Or do you always just say things would be bad for Republicans because it's your goto statement.

Libertarians have traditionally mostly been disaffected Republicans. There are a few exceptions, like Mike Gravel, but not many. Simply how they've functioned most. Greens are far more likely to be unhappy Democrats.

[RichardCranium]

A vote for Gandalf isn't a vote for Gandalf. There is no way Johnson is going to win NY, CA, NJ, PA.. etc etc etc. A registered Republican voting for Johnson is in effect, a vote for Hillary. A Democrat voting Johnson is a Vote for Trump.

Last poll I saw had Johnson at 13%. While that is huge really for a third party... it won't win a single state.

It's just like CA really... There are 7.4 mill registered Dems. 4.7 Mill registered Repubs. 4.1 Mill registered Independents.
Republican Votes in CA are basically worthless. Frankly.. they should all move to like.. NY and flip that state for 2020.

Voting Republican just to block Democrats and vice versa is why we are where we are as a country. Toeing the party line is beyond ridiculous at this point.

[Androidpk]

Voting Republican just to block Democrats and vice versa is why we are where we are as a country. Toeing the party line is beyond ridiculous at this point.


^^^^^^^

[Jarvan]

Voting Republican just to block Democrats and vice versa is why we are where we are as a country. Toeing the party line is beyond ridiculous at this point.

This is entirely true. Of course that is why a lot of people end up not voting too. because they don't want to vote for the lesser of two evils, they want a candidate that is WORTH voting FOR, not against. Sadly, we rarely get one.

And then you have this...


"Should Judge Garland or another Democratic appointee join the court, Justice Ginsburg will find herself in a new position, and the thought seemed to please her.

“It means that I’ll be among five more often than among four,” she said."

To me.. this is the most disgusting "toting the party Line" you can get.

[Parkbandit]

I don't always side with WB but when I do it's because I'm correct.

Given your history of predictions.. this makes me happy.

[Parkbandit]

13% would be an extraordinary impact. Johnson would get power to shift and alter the Republicans... or press for legislative representation.

13% would get him exactly what he had last election.

[Jarvan]

13% would get him exactly what he had last election.

Zero Electoral Votes?

[Candor]

Of course that is why a lot of people end up not voting too. because they don't want to vote for the lesser of two evils, they want a candidate that is WORTH voting FOR, not against.


Exactly.

[Latrinsorm]

This is entirely true. Of course that is why a lot of people end up not voting too. because they don't want to vote for the lesser of two evils, they want a candidate that is WORTH voting FOR, not against. Sadly, we rarely get one.We don't "get" candidates, we nominate them. If you want a different one, get more involved in the nomination process, and convince other people of like mind to do the same. Trump won the nomination with 13.4 million votes, the most ever... and that's still not even a quarter of registered Republicans.

[Jarvan]

We don't "get" candidates, we nominate them. If you want a different one, get more involved in the nomination process, and convince other people of like mind to do the same. Trump won the nomination with 13.4 million votes, the most ever... and that's still not even a quarter of registered Republicans.

....

So what you are saying I need to force someone that has views like mine to run for President even if they don't want to?

I did not know that!

[Androidpk]

>when liberals, including Obama, say idiotic things after Orlando like "it doesn't happen in other countries" as if he forgot France entirely, or Norway, or Mumbai, or Kenya, it invites mockery.

And? Are you new to politics? Are you just now understanding that Obama says and does stupid things? I stick by my point. If the first thing that comes to someones mind is

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/senpai-club/images/e/e0/Simpsons-nelson-ha-ha-93-p-672x480_zpsa1421178.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140330002053



then THAT action is going to draw criticism/mockery as well.

[Latrinsorm]

....

So what you are saying I need to force someone that has views like mine to run for President even if they don't want to?

I did not know that!Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, it's your party. You can cry if you want to, or you can get out there and work for a candidate you can vote FOR. The majority of both parties don't vote in the primaries, you wouldn't have had to change a single person's mind that was already voting. That's what really drives me crazy about the people who do nothing and then complain when the process results in a candidate they don't like. Get off your butts if you're all so mad! Stop watching the foosball and go put up some flyers! Push 'em, pull 'em, do something!

[Fallen]

I imagine it isn't a big issue to those leaning towards voting Trump that it appears he dodged the draft?

[Wrathbringer]

I imagine it isn't a big issue to those leaning towards voting Trump that it appears he dodged the draft?

He was smart enough to dodge it and savvy enough to get away with it. Sounds like a feather in his cap, to me. The people that sign up for that stuff willingly are the ones with the problems.

[Jarvan]

Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, it's your party. You can cry if you want to, or you can get out there and work for a candidate you can vote FOR. The majority of both parties don't vote in the primaries, you wouldn't have had to change a single person's mind that was already voting. That's what really drives me crazy about the people who do nothing and then complain when the process results in a candidate they don't like. Get off your butts if you're all so mad! Stop watching the foosball and go put up some flyers! Push 'em, pull 'em, do something!

And the Repubs has 17 people, and I honestly didn't feel WOW about any of them, a few were "I wouldn't Mind" but most were, meh.

So yeah.. No.

[Jarvan]

I imagine it isn't a big issue to those leaning towards voting Trump that it appears he dodged the draft?

Well.. it doesn't matter to Dems that Hillary Lied under oath, and tried to avoid FOIA requests and got away with it. soooooo likely not.

[Warriorbird]

Well.. it doesn't matter to Dems that Hillary Lied under oath, and tried to avoid FOIA requests and got away with it. soooooo likely not.

http://i.imgur.com/6fyzqED.jpg

[Parkbandit]

I will change my assessment to organized buffoons that live in an alternate reality.

I'm curious to see what Trump's convention bounce will be now in the polling. My guess is very little, but PB's seems pretty sure that this is a win, so I'll just wait and see.

You are getting as bad as PK at making predictions...

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289046-trump-takes-national-lead-with-6-point-convention-bounce

[ClydeR]

The best thing so far today was when Ben Carson said in his speech that Clinton is a follower of Lucifer.


Remember when Ben Carson said (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I-LQTkytR8) at the GOP convention two weeks ago that Hillary was in league with Lucifer? Trump is saying it now too.


Trump in recent days has taken to categorizing the Clinton-Sanders understanding as a "deal with the devil" but this was the first time that he went so far as to specifically equate Clinton with Lucifer.

More... (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9de32bd202a8476dbe0657cda134bfc3/trump-moves-crooked-hillary-devil-stump)

[Ashliana]

You are getting as bad as PK at making predictions...

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289046-trump-takes-national-lead-with-6-point-convention-bounce

Spoiler Alert: You are terrible at predictions. Every election, you prove yourself a master of mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance who will believe anything to sustain the illusion that your candidate is going to win.

2008 Parkbandit: Could the Bradley effect be responsible for Obama being 8 points ahead in the polls!?
2008 Parkbandit: I think it would be a 'riot' if Obama didn't get elected.. after all the media fanfare and rigged polling...
2008 Parkbandit: And where Obama will have the lead in delegates.. and Hillary will end up with the nomination.
2008 Parkbandit: MIGHT just be what the Doctor ordered after years of pseudo-conservatism. Bobby Jindal 2012 imo.

2012 Parkbandit: It's over because of some polling that out samples Democrat voting? You're being played.
2012 Parkbandit: And I also didn't realize the election is over. Good to know you already have come to gripes with Romney winning.. albeit not "convincingly" enough for you to legitimize it.
2012 Parkbandit's electoral prediction: 291 Romney, 247 Obama (ACTUAL results: 332 Obama, 206 Romney)