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Taernath
07-15-2016, 05:06 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083


An army group in Turkey says it has taken control of the country, with bridges closed in Istanbul and aircraft flying low over Ankara.
PM Binali Yildirim earlier denounced an "illegal action" by a military "group", stressing it was not a coup. He said that the government remained in charge.
Traffic has been stopped from crossing both the Bosphorus and Fatih Sultan Mehmet bridges in Istanbul.
There are reports of gunshots in the capital Ankara.
Gunfire was also heard outside Istanbul police HQ and tanks are said to be stationed outside Istanbul airport. All flights are cancelled.
CNN Turk reported that President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was "safe" but did not elaborate.
A statement from the military group read out on NTV television said: "The power in the country has been seized in its entirety." Who represents the group remains uncertain.
A Turkish presidential source told Reuters that the statement was not authorised by the military command.
Mr Yildirim told NTV by telephone: "We are working on the possibility of an attempt. We will not allow this attempt.
"Those who are in this illegal act will pay the highest price," he added, saying it would not be correct to describe the move as a "coup".
He said: "There was an illegal act by a group within the military that was acting out of the chain of military command. Our people should know that we will not allow any activity that would harm democracy."
There are reports Turkey's top general has been taken hostage at the military HQ.

Jarvan
07-15-2016, 05:08 PM
Yeah, haven't been watching the news, as I have been cleaning.. but it sounds like the Military has seized power in Turkey.

We will have to wait and see how this plays out. One thing I heard was, the military was tired of Turkey's leaders helping ISIS. (Likely oil sales)

Warriorbird
07-15-2016, 05:11 PM
Hopefully they're successful.

Gelston
07-15-2016, 05:14 PM
Be interesting. One of the most powerful militaries on Earth launching a coup. It would be bad if this led to a civil war, then ISIS would be super stoked.

Taernath
07-15-2016, 05:25 PM
Be interesting. One of the most powerful militaries on Earth launching a coup. It would be bad if this led to a civil war, then ISIS would be super stoked.

Yeah. Their military is secular, too. Erdogan pissed them off one too many times.

Fallen
07-15-2016, 05:36 PM
I wasn't a big fan of Erdogan, but yeah. Not sure what to make of this one.

Kembal
07-15-2016, 05:38 PM
Found a good twitter link to read: https://twitter.com/zeynep

Apparently latest tweet is that Erdogan is giving a statement via Facetime to be broadcast on live TV.

Sounds like he's screwed.

Taernath
07-15-2016, 05:41 PM
Supposedly he's asking for asylum in Germany.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/15/erdogan-seeks-asylum-in-germany-report.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl


Turkish president Tayyip Erdoğan is reportedly seeking asylum in Germany, as a military coup continues in Turkey, U.S. military sources tell NBC News. Erdoğan's presidential jet was allegedly denied landing rights at Istanbul's airport, before heading out of the country. Addressing Turkey via Facetime, Erdoğan asserted declared, “I am president,” and vowed to crush the opposition forces.

Kembal
07-15-2016, 05:50 PM
Some more twitter feeds to follow:

https://twitter.com/HetavRojan

https://twitter.com/borzou

Guardian's live blog seems pretty good too: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara

Menos
07-15-2016, 05:52 PM
Live streaming coverage from Sky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg) on youtube.

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 05:59 PM
Jesus fuck, I take a cat nap and the world goes to shit.

Gelston
07-15-2016, 06:38 PM
Had to put in on fucking BBC to see news on it. Fox is busy talking about Trump's VP pick.

Parkbandit
07-15-2016, 06:44 PM
Jesus fuck, I take a cat nap and the world goes to shit.

I'm surprised your "sources" didn't wake you up and let you know.

They need to be retrained.

Parkbandit
07-15-2016, 06:45 PM
Had to put in on fucking BBC to see news on it. Fox is busy talking about Trump's VP pick.

Really?

http://www.foxnews.com/

Looks like it's at the very top to me.

:shrug:

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 06:52 PM
I'm surprised your "sources" didn't wake you up and let you know.

They need to be retrained.


what/

Gelston
07-15-2016, 07:01 PM
Really?

http://www.foxnews.com/

Looks like it's at the very top to me.

:shrug:

I have a thing called TV. When i was trying to get info on it via the "TV" Fox was only talking about Trump and his VP pick.

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 07:01 PM
There was a young fellow from Ankara, Who was a terrific wankerer.
“Till he sowed his wild oats, With the help of a goat, But he didn’t even stop to thankera.”

Gelston
07-15-2016, 07:20 PM
Turkish F-16 supposedly shot down, someone is fighting.

Jarvan
07-15-2016, 07:20 PM
There was a young fellow from Ankara, Who was a terrific wankerer.
“Till he sowed his wild oats, With the help of a goat, But he didn’t even stop to thankera.”

Stop smoking the Weed.. you are going crazy.

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 07:23 PM
Turkish F-16 supposedly shot down, someone is fighting.

Attack helicopter was firing on police special forces HQ, shot down by F-16 (from what I hear)

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 07:23 PM
Stop smoking the Weed.. you are going crazy.

Just quoting the limerick written by Boris Johnson (which won the "Insult Erdogan" contest)

Gelston
07-15-2016, 08:17 PM
Turkish Intel is claiming the Coup is repelled. On the news, I still see tanks and troops in the street. Although there has been supposed footage of police arresting soldiers in Ankara in large numbers.

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 08:18 PM
Turkish Intel is claiming the Coup is repelled. On the news, I still see tanks and troops in the street. Although there has been supposed footage of police arresting soldiers in Ankara in large numbers.


They haven't gotten the facebook update yet.

Warriorbird
07-15-2016, 08:21 PM
Just quoting the limerick written by Boris Johnson (which won the "Insult Erdogan" contest)

We can't expect everybody to be up on even lulzy world events... unless the goal was to poke some ignorance.

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 08:23 PM
We can't expect everybody to be up on even lulzy world events... unless the goal was to poke some ignorance.

No ulterior motive just something I found amusing.

Gelston
07-15-2016, 09:11 PM
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13699979_671985146285423_1845084685283297612_n.jpg ?oh=731ed0bbb9f0d6163538547390c7361a&oe=5835ACA2

Warriorbird
07-15-2016, 09:31 PM
I hope they haven't failed.

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 09:34 PM
I hope they haven't failed.

why do you hate democracy?

Gelston
07-15-2016, 09:38 PM
It is basically looking like they've failed. The Premier is in Istanbul and all that mess.

Warriorbird
07-15-2016, 09:38 PM
why do you hate democracy?

Hmm!


It was the 25th general election in the History of the Republic of Turkey and elected the country's 26th Parliament. The election resulted in the Justice and Development Party (AKP) regaining a Parliamentary majority following a 'shock' victory, having lost it five months earlier in the June 2015 general election.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turkiye/542569/Sandik_baskanina_oy_calmaktan_2.5_yil_hapis..._40_ oydan_39_u_AKP_ye_cikmisti.html

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 09:43 PM
Democracy works!

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 09:45 PM
I'm hearing everything and nothing. Chief of military kidnapped/killed/rescued/freed, ect ect.

Taernath
07-15-2016, 09:49 PM
Erdogan is really taking the opportunity to pin the blame for everything on Fethullah Gulen.

Gelston
07-15-2016, 09:55 PM
Erdogan is really taking the opportunity to pin the blame for everything on Fethullah Gulen.

I blame it all on Obama. Not Barack, but that scheming Malia.

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 09:58 PM
Erdogan is really taking the opportunity to pin the blame for everything on Fethullah Gulen.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/13/new-ties-emerge-between-clinton-and-mysterious-islamic-cleric/

Warriorbird
07-15-2016, 10:04 PM
Erdogan says this insurgency "is a blessing from Allah, because it will allow us to purge the military" from mutineers.

Bleah.

Gelston
07-15-2016, 10:05 PM
Erdogan says this insurgency "is a blessing from Allah, because it will allow us to purge the military" from mutineers.

Bleah.

Well, kinda have to now. They did just mutiny.

drauz
07-15-2016, 10:07 PM
Erdogan says this insurgency "is a blessing from Allah, because it will allow us to purge the military" from mutineers.

Bleah.

Anyone want to take bets on how long till this becomes a dictatorship?

I say within 5 years.

Warriorbird
07-15-2016, 10:08 PM
Anyone want to take bets on how long till this becomes a dictatorship?

I say within 5 years.

I think it has been for a while we're just not allowed to say that because they're an "ally."

Gelston
07-15-2016, 10:09 PM
Anyone want to take bets on how long till this becomes a dictatorship?

I say within 5 years.

Meh, nah. Coups are almost like Baseball for Turkey, their national pastime.

Taernath
07-15-2016, 10:09 PM
Erdogan says this insurgency "is a blessing from Allah, because it will allow us to purge the military" from mutineers.

Bleah.


Fuckin' Janissaries. I always purge them as soon as possible (http://www.eu4wiki.com/Janissary_Decadence).

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 10:15 PM
So when the coup happened in Egypt Obama and his gang downplayed it, said it wasn't a coup. This happens in Turkey and now Obama is saying respect democracy!

Warriorbird
07-15-2016, 10:16 PM
So when the coup happened in Egypt Obama and his gang downplayed it, said it wasn't a coup. This happens in Turkey and now Obama is saying respect democracy!

They are theoretically our ally. Unfortunately in actuality they're basically ISIS's ally. What would you do?

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 10:19 PM
Hard to say. Yes, they are a NATO member, and yes it does seem like Erdogan is giving material aid and support to daesh and using the Turkish military to attack Kurds in Turkey and Syria, who are fighting daesh.. Giant clusterfuck right there. On top of that there is Russia.

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 10:30 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/7/recep-tayyip-erdogan-uses-turkey-military-coup-buz/

Gelston
07-15-2016, 11:14 PM
At least 42 dead in Ankara from the Coup attempt.

Androidpk
07-15-2016, 11:34 PM
Hearing that tanks (?) outside presidential palace were bombed by F-16s.

Some Rogue
07-16-2016, 12:21 AM
Does this mean Thanksgiving is cancelled this year?

Androidpk
07-16-2016, 12:25 AM
Does this mean Thanksgiving is cancelled this year?

Yes.

Androidpk
07-16-2016, 12:29 AM
Damn this is gruesome. Don't click if you're squeemish.

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754170083514220545

Gelston
07-16-2016, 12:35 AM
Yeah, the President is going to probably have mass executions of military and videos like that will have the people all for it.

Androidpk
07-16-2016, 12:47 AM
Yeah, the President is going to probably have mass executions of military and videos like that will have the people all for it.

He just signed this too..

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/turkish-military-given-immunity-as-erdogan-seeks-allies-3fcpwc2jk

Taernath
07-16-2016, 10:52 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/turkey-coup-conspiracy-theory-erdogan-military-gift-from-god-soldiers-istanbul-a7140516.html

Turkey coup: Conspiracy theorists claim attempt was faked by Erdogan
Social media users claim Erdogan will use the attempted coup in the same way Hitler used the Reichstag Fire to suppress all opposition

Conspiracy theorists are saying the attempted military coup in Turkey was faked, after President Recep Tayyip Erdogan reportedly called it “a gift from Allah”.

Social media users have compared the coup attempt in which more than 160 people are thought to have died to the Reichstag fire – the 1933 arson attack on the German parliament building which Hitler used as an excuse to suspend civil liberties and order mass arrests of his opponents.

President Erdogan reportedly told supporters at Istanbul’s international airport that the coup attempt was the work of the movement led by the exiled preacher Fethullah Gulen, which he denounced as “an armed terrorist organisation”.

He was quoted as calling the attempted coup "a gift from God," reportedly saying it would help cleanse the military of "members of the gang” who would “pay a heavy price for their treason”

This immediately led many to fear that President Erdogan, who has previously been accused of persecuting critics, will use the coup as an excuse to further crack down on his opponents. Such fears are likely to be stoked by Turkish TV reports that 2,745 judges have been removed from their offices following the coup attempt.

I don't know about this being a false flag, but he is definitely taking advantage of it.

Warriorbird
07-16-2016, 11:02 AM
2745 judges? Wow.

Taernath
07-16-2016, 11:06 AM
2745 judges? Wow.

You know their names were already on a list somewhere.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-coup-latest-news-erdogan-istanbul-judges-removed-from-duty-failed-government-overthrow-a7140661.html


The Turkish government has removed 2,745 judges from duty in the wake of a failed military coup in which over 161 people were killed.

The decision followed an emergency meeting of Turkey’s Judges and Prosecutors High Council which was called to discuss members’ links to US-based cleric Fethullah Gülen, the leader of a reformist Muslim movement.

The meeting saw the dismissal of 2,745 judges along with several members of the council itself, which is Turkey’s highest judiciary board.

The Anadolu Agency said arrest warrants have been issued for 48 administrative court members and 140 members of Turkey's appeals court.

The government has repeatedly blamed the influence of the Gülen movement for the coup and has said the overthrow attempt was carried out by a clique of supporters within the military.

Turkey’s acting military chief of staff Umit Dundar earlier said: “The armed forces is determined to remove members of the Gülen movement from its ranks.”

Warriorbird
07-16-2016, 11:21 AM
You know their names were already on a list somewhere.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-coup-latest-news-erdogan-istanbul-judges-removed-from-duty-failed-government-overthrow-a7140661.html

Yeah. Definitely makes this look more faked.

Androidpk
07-16-2016, 11:54 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/turkey-coup-conspiracy-theory-erdogan-military-gift-from-god-soldiers-istanbul-a7140516.html


I don't know about this being a false flag, but he is definitely taking advantage of it.


This is what I've been hearing too, especially from a lot of Turks that are saying things just aren't adding up. While I tend to hate that phrase, false flag, I do think there is something fishy going on.

Androidpk
07-18-2016, 07:38 PM
Units involved in the "coup"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnn8FrFWYAAfCQc.jpg

Taernath
07-18-2016, 07:50 PM
Last I heard over 6000 'conspirators' have been rounded up.

Erdogan has been pushing for the reinstatement of the death penalty for a few years, but faced opposition from the legal system. With them now removed...

Androidpk
07-18-2016, 08:07 PM
Last I heard over 6000 'conspirators' have been rounded up.

Erdogan has been pushing for the reinstatement of the death penalty for a few years, but faced opposition from the legal system. With them now removed...


Dunno off the top of my head but something around 2500+ soldiers, 2500+ judges and lawyers, 6000+ police... who knows about how many politicians. This sounds more and more like erdogan using kabuki theater to seize complete control.

Androidpk
07-19-2016, 11:49 AM
updated numbers

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnvRgmCXEAAfDFv.jpg

Archigeek
07-19-2016, 12:18 PM
Add 15,000 educators, cause you wouldn't want an educated public. This is scary stuff. If Turkey goes into a spiral, it would make the giant mess that is Syria look like the junior league, or worse: we end up with a REAL caliphate.

Androidpk
07-19-2016, 02:10 PM
Waiting to see how NATO reacts.

Androidpk
07-19-2016, 02:11 PM
Add 15,000 educators, cause you wouldn't want an educated public. This is scary stuff. If Turkey goes into a spiral, it would make the giant mess that is Syria look like the junior league, or worse: we end up with a REAL caliphate.

If the west starts to distance itself don't be surprised to see Putin on the scene. Hint, he already is.

Luftstreitkräfte
07-19-2016, 02:11 PM
Creating a deliberately failed coup; Just another Western intelligence attempt to stomp out moderate Islamic movements (Gulenists) and replace with radical ones (Wahhabis) that are easier to blow up. Nothing to see here.

Androidpk
07-19-2016, 02:13 PM
Creating a deliberately failed coup; Just another Western intelligence attempt to stomp out moderate Islamic movements (Gulenists) and replace with radical ones (Wahhabis) that are easier to blow up. Nothing to see here.

Sure.

Warriorbird
07-19-2016, 02:15 PM
Creating a deliberately failed coup; Just another Western intelligence attempt to stomp out moderate Islamic movements (Gulenists) and replace with radical ones (Wahhabis) that are easier to blow up. Nothing to see here.

It takes a mighty amount of spin to take a group that Obama (quietly) and Hillary (loudly) (and hell, even several Republicans) support and somehow suggest that the West were the ones that did this to them.

Erdogan's supporting daesh.

Wrathbringer
07-19-2016, 02:17 PM
Creating a deliberately failed coup; Just another Western intelligence attempt to stomp out moderate Islamic bowel movements (Gulenists) and replace with radical ones (Wahhabis) that are easier to blow up. Nothing to see here.

I'm against islamic movements, so I'm good with that. Muslims are retarded.

Androidpk
07-19-2016, 07:40 PM
ANKARA, Turkey — Turkey suspended more than 15,000 Education Ministry workers on Tuesday and demanded resignations from all university deans as authorities widened their far-reaching crackdowns in the wake of a failed coup attempt.

The 15,200 personnel were being investigated for links to the power grab launched last week, the ministry said in a statement.

In addition, 1,577 university deans from Turkey's public and private universities were asked to hand in their notice.

A further 492 staff were removed from duty at the country's top Islamic authority.

drauz
07-19-2016, 10:25 PM
The new Turkey government

http://i.imgur.com/glehnJS.jpg

Wesley
07-19-2016, 10:29 PM
Alright I'm drunk as fuck. I'm ready for the politics section again. LET'S DO THIS.

Which news outlet was the first to blame Turkey's shit on the opposite political party?

Warriorbird
07-19-2016, 10:31 PM
Alright I'm drunk as fuck. I'm ready for the politics section again. LET'S DO THIS.

Which news outlet was the first to blame Turkey's shit on the opposite political party?

I don't think Clinton and Trump have attacked each other related to this. It's a mess that pretty much anyone can see and we're limited in what we can do to intercede due to NATO.

At this rate they ought to be kicked out of NATO though.

Gelston
07-19-2016, 10:32 PM
NATO needs Turkey more than Turkey needs NATO though.

Warriorbird
07-19-2016, 10:35 PM
NATO needs Turkey more than Turkey needs NATO though.

Definitely. Makes it all extra worse.

Wesley
07-19-2016, 10:35 PM
NATO pretty much only has Turkey as a staging area for troops these days. Israel too I suppose, but something tells me political positioning wouldn't end well if we were building up troops for the region in Israel.

Gelston
07-19-2016, 10:38 PM
NATO pretty much only has Turkey as a staging area for troops these days. Israel too I suppose, but something tells me political positioning wouldn't end well if we were building up troops for the region in Israel.

Israel isn't in NATO and I doubt they'd want us to use them as a beachhead anyways. Plus, we'd have 0 Arab allies if they were fighting with us in a war over there.

Wesley
07-19-2016, 10:40 PM
Israel isn't in NATO and I doubt they'd want us to use them as a beachhead anyways. Plus, we'd have 0 Arab allies if they were fighting with us in a war over there.

No, they're not. I jus tmean they're the closest ally to the middle east that the US has other than Turkey. If we really absolutely needed boots on the ground in the middle east and Turkey was a strong no, we could probably stage through Israel is all I mean.

Gelston
07-19-2016, 10:43 PM
No, they're not. I jus tmean they're the closest ally to the middle east that the US has other than Turkey. If we really absolutely needed boots on the ground in the middle east and Turkey was a strong no, we could probably stage through Israel is all I mean.

OH, nah. Turkey is only just recently started letting us fly combat missions from there. We have a lot of avenues we can use, Kuwait is a huge one.

Wesley
07-19-2016, 10:47 PM
OH, nah. Turkey is only just recently started letting us fly combat missions from there. We have a lot of avenues we can use, Kuwait is a huge one.

That's probably true. I'll assume you're right. I think I'm probably remembering cold war stuff where we positioned nukes in Turkey and the whole cuban missile crisis in response deal. Plus there's Saudi Arabia. I think that's where Operation Desert Storm was staged in the 90s, wasn't it?

Taernath
07-19-2016, 10:59 PM
NATO needs Turkey more than Turkey needs NATO though.

Dunno about that. Russia was eyeing Turkey pretty hard after Turkey shot down a Russian jet.

Gelston
07-19-2016, 11:04 PM
Dunno about that. Russia was eyeing Turkey pretty hard after Turkey shot down a Russian jet.

Russia would be in for a hell of a fight if it fucked with Turkey. They'd win, but they'd get a big black eye, not a roll over like Georgia or the Ukraine.

Warriorbird
07-19-2016, 11:10 PM
Russia would be in for a hell of a fight if it fucked with Turkey. They'd win, but they'd get a big black eye, not a roll over like Georgia or the Ukraine.

Do you think the purging is going to reduce Turkey's effectiveness any?

Taernath
07-19-2016, 11:18 PM
Russia would be in for a hell of a fight if it fucked with Turkey. They'd win, but they'd get a big black eye, not a roll over like Georgia or the Ukraine.

They'd get banged up some, but it would still be a second round TKO. Turkey's military isn't going to be so hot after getting purged. Plus, no nukes if NATO leaves.

Gelston
07-19-2016, 11:29 PM
Do you think the purging is going to reduce Turkey's effectiveness any?

Yeah it will, of course, but Turkey still has the 8th largest army and modern gear. Russia would have to commit to a legit war.

Gelston
07-19-2016, 11:30 PM
This is a country that has their own military industry. Bit different.

Taernath
07-19-2016, 11:48 PM
This is a country that has their own military industry.

To an extent. They still field a mix of older modernized and newer equipment from other nations, with self-produced newer stuff that isn't really battle tested or fully produced yet.

Gelston
07-20-2016, 12:09 AM
To an extent. They still field a mix of older modernized and newer equipment from other nations, with self-produced newer stuff that isn't really battle tested or fully produced yet.

Bet they'd own the air against Russia. Probably wreck the Russian Fleet in the area too. Russia isn't full of modern stuff either.

And Turkey currently fields nearly 1000 modernized Leopard 1 and 2 tanks, with 1000 more of their own tanks on the way.

Taernath
07-20-2016, 12:27 AM
Bet they'd own the air against Russia.

Their most modern plane is the f-16, right? Doubtful.


Probably wreck the Russian Fleet in the area too.

Maybe, I don't know much about either nation's navy.


And Turkey currently fields nearly 1000 modernized Leopard 1 and 2 tanks, with 1000 more of their own tanks on the way.

I think they have ~350 Leo 2's, the rest of their tanks are like Leo 1's, M48's and M60's. They're modernized, but still obsolete.

Wesley
07-20-2016, 12:31 AM
I dunno. I think as a public we're pretty in the dark on their actual factual military strength. I'm sure military intelligence has a better idea, but until the day IS decided to cut Iraq in half, we were pretty sure that Iraq had a strong, US trained military force too. Right up until the point where what, 60,000 of them turned out to be phantom people on the payroll, or something like that?

At best we're just making guesses, is what I'm gettin' at. None of us were even thinking about Turkey til it became a major news story.

Androidpk
07-20-2016, 02:42 AM
It's all about the Bosporus Strait.

Gelston
07-20-2016, 03:03 AM
Their most modern plane is the f-16, right? Doubtful.



Maybe, I don't know much about either nation's navy.



I think they have ~350 Leo 2's, the rest of their tanks are like Leo 1's, M48's and M60's. They're modernized, but still obsolete.

The F16 is a great plane and they have lots and make the themselves. What Russian plane is better? Yeah, none of them.

You seem to IGNORE that all those Leopards were all modernized. The Russian military is actually behind Turkey.

Russia isn't the Soviet Union anymore. Their military is complete shit. They have a bunch of nukes, that is it.

Gelston
07-20-2016, 03:08 AM
Funny thing, they have brought back their giant ass battlecruisers, like those are threatening. The Turks could destroy them in ten seconds. You are overestimating the Russians and underestimating the Turks.

Wrathbringer
07-20-2016, 08:25 AM
Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobodies business but the Turks.

Androidpk
07-20-2016, 09:43 AM
Funny thing, they have brought back their giant ass battlecruisers, like those are threatening. The Turks could destroy them in ten seconds. You are overestimating the Russians and underestimating the Turks.

Why are we even discussing Russia fighting Turkey? They're BFFs now. Putin lets Erdogan throw a fake coup, consolidate power into a dictatorship, get kicked out of NATO and poof, now Russia has free unlimited access to the Bosporous with the added bonus of the EU and NATO now being fractured.

GG Obama

Gelston
07-20-2016, 09:50 AM
Why are we even discussing Russia fighting Turkey? They're BFFs now. Putin lets Erdogan throw a fake coup, consolidate power into a dictatorship, get kicked out of NATO and poof, now Russia has free unlimited access to the Bosporous with the added bonus of the EU and NATO now being fractured.

GG Obama

Someone brought up Russia being pissy at Turkey after Turkey shot down a Russian fighter.

Taernath
07-20-2016, 10:47 AM
The F16 is a great plane and they have lots and make the themselves. What Russian plane is better? Yeah, none of them.

The F16 is a great plane but there are planes that are better. The Su-27 and MiG-29 are comparable to an F-16, while the MiG-35 surpasses it. Turkey also doesn't have dedicated ground attackers.


You seem to IGNORE that all those Leopards were all modernized. The Russian military is actually behind Turkey.

I've already acknowledged their tanks being modernized but you don't seem to realize Russia has been modernizing for a long time, as well. And their air force and ground forces are between 2x and 5x as large as Turkey's. That kebab is definitely getting removed.

Wrathbringer
07-20-2016, 10:53 AM
The F16 is a great plane but there are planes that are better. The Su-25 and MiG-29 are comparable to an F-16, while the MiG-35 surpasses it. Turkey also doesn't have dedicated ground attackers.



I've already acknowledged their tanks being modernized but you don't seem to realize Russia has been modernizing for a long time, as well. And their air force and ground forces are between 2x and 5x as large as Turkey's. That kebab is definitely getting removed.

Hey how about you and gelston take your gay little military plane nerdfest private? Thanks.

Androidpk
07-20-2016, 11:27 AM
Hey how about you and gelston take your gay little military plane nerdfest private? Thanks.

Normally I would join in but this time it's pointless. Russia has slowly been changing how they conduct warfare. Why do you think NATO is in such a tizzy? Super duper hybrid warfare, the men in green suits, popular uprisings, "coups", ect ect. Like mission creep except on a strategic scale. Erdogan and Putin aren't going to fight, their interests align too much.

Parkbandit
07-20-2016, 11:44 AM
Normally I would join in but this time it's pointless. Russia has slowly been changing how they conduct warfare. Why do you think NATO is in such a tizzy? Super duper hybrid warfare, the men in green suits, popular uprisings, "coups", ect ect. Like mission creep except on a strategic scale. Erdogan and Putin aren't going to fight, their interests align too much.

Well, thankfully Hillary had a red reset button made and they pushed it.

We are saved.

GS4Pirate
07-20-2016, 11:56 AM
Well, thankfully Hillary had a red reset button made and they pushed it.

We are saved.

She even managed to fuck that up.

Androidpk
07-20-2016, 12:37 PM
A Turkish air base widely believed to house U.S. nuclear weapons continued to rely on backup generators Wednesday, five days after a failed coup plunged the country into crisis. (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/turkey-military-coup)

Commercial power was cut to Incirlik Air Base in southern Turkey and the airspace above it closed within hours of Friday's attempted military takeover in the NATO country.

Turkish commanders at the site were later arrested (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/turkey-military-coup/turkey-coup-attempt-commander-u-s-linked-base-among-6-n611081) and led away after they were accused of allowing at least one tanker aircraft to refuel jets involved in the thwarted mutiny (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/turkey-military-coup/turkey-coup-rebel-f-16s-had-erdogans-jet-sights-reuters-n611376).

Androidpk
07-20-2016, 12:39 PM
Will Obama turn over Gulen?


The base is under virtual siege by large police contingents, cut off from electric power for several days except for local generators which will soon run out of fuel. This pressure appears to be Erdogan’s method of turning hundreds of Americans on the base into hostages to force Washington into extraditing Fethullah Gulen, whom he accuses of orchestrating the failed coup from his place of asylum in Pennsylvania.


However, fears for the fate of the US airmen trapped in Incirlik and the tactical nukes were exacerbated by the comments of two top officials of the Erdogan regime Tuesday.

Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim insinuated that the Americans may be viewed as partners, at least passive ones, in the conspiracy, in view of the use the plotters made of Incirlik for sending aircraft based there and arming them for the missions of intercepting the President’s airplane (which was never realized) and bombing the Parliament building in Ankara (which was).

The Turkish Labor Minister, Süleyman Soylu, was more explicit: “This coup has America behind,” he twitted in his Twitter account.


http://cdn3.img.sputniknews.com/images/103471/93/1034719399.jpg

Androidpk
07-20-2016, 11:12 PM
Istanbul (CNN)Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced the nation is imposing a three-month state of emergency in the aftermath of last week's bloody coup attempt.

Taernath
07-20-2016, 11:30 PM
Don't remember if it was mentioned in this thread, but they've put a travel ban on people who've worked in education and asked people who are already overseas to return. What could possibly go wrong?

Androidpk
07-20-2016, 11:36 PM
Don't remember if it was mentioned in this thread, but they've put a travel ban on people who've worked in education and asked people who are already overseas to return. What could possibly go wrong?


Yeah I'd be rushing to get home so I could be tortured. I mean interrogated. I mean sit down for a nice inquiry.

Taernath
07-21-2016, 12:19 AM
Will Obama turn over Gulen?

I really, really doubt it. Holding our troops (and nukes!) hostage would be an act of war.

*edit* I've been hearing this has been debunked already but I'm not seeing any sources.

Androidpk
07-21-2016, 10:42 AM
Turkey to temporarily suspend European Convention on Human Rights after coup attemptTurkey will temporarily suspend the implementation of its obligations emanating from the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) in line with the declaration of a state of emergency in the country, a senior government official has said, while assuring that fundamental rights and freedoms will not be affected during this period.

Yeah just don't say anything critical of erdogan on social media or you'll be arrested/tortured.

Androidpk
07-21-2016, 07:19 PM
I really, really doubt it. Holding our troops (and nukes!) hostage would be an act of war.

*edit* I've been hearing this has been debunked already but I'm not seeing any sources.

supposedly nukes are duds

Androidpk
07-21-2016, 07:36 PM
We've always been at war with Eurasia!

http://images.techtimes.com/data/images/full/163416/meaning-of-vault-boy-thumbs-up-jpg.jpg?w=600

Androidpk
07-21-2016, 07:44 PM
I know it's probably because I've read far too many Tom Clancy and Brad Thor books but this is an unsettling situation we're witnessing. You think a fake coup was bad, what about a nuke going off in a similar manner? Blame it on the US..

Androidpk
07-21-2016, 08:09 PM
Greek Air Force officials are saying they monitored Erdogans flight the entire time and there is no evidence of any F-16s ever being near it.

http://www.skai.gr/news/world/article/320906/adeiazei-ton-erdogan-i-el-polemiki-aeroporia-kaneis-den-katadioxe-to-aeroskafos-tou/

Androidpk
07-22-2016, 06:55 AM
IIRC the US Navy has 2 aircraft carriers in the Med right now, which is a good thing right now.

Fallen
08-03-2016, 07:47 PM
Turkish journalist thinks GTA IV cheat codes were used in attempted coup
http://www.geek.com/games/turkish-journalist-thinks-gta-iv-cheat-codes-were-used-in-attempted-coup-1664579/

Androidpk
08-03-2016, 08:22 PM
Turkish journalist thinks GTA IV cheat codes were used in attempted coup


http://www.geek.com/games/turkish-journalist-thinks-gta-iv-cheat-codes-were-used-in-attempted-coup-1664579/

Did you read the story about the $1 bills?

Fallen
08-03-2016, 10:32 PM
Did you read the story about the $1 bills?

I did not.

Androidpk
08-03-2016, 10:36 PM
I did not.


http://www.thepressproject.gr/article/98452/The-Mystery-of-the-1-Bill

Taernath
08-03-2016, 11:08 PM
I have an "f" $1 bill in my wallet right now. I guess my cover is blown.

If this didn't involve people's lives this would be pretty funny.