The Board Is Set

[ClydeR]

Clinton passed the number of delegates needed for the nomination. The primaries are over! And what primaries they were. Best primary season is an age or more. I can't imagine how the general election could possibly be more entertaining.


WASHINGTON — Hillary Rodham Clinton clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Monday night with timely help from Democratic Party insiders, shattering a glass ceiling to become the first woman in American history to top a major party ticket.

More... (http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/06/06/clinton-has-delegates-win-democratic-nomination-according-count/WAS6hV0kqKSUCmIsemZE1H/story.html)

[Candor]

The primaries are over!

I think someone forgot to give Bernie the memo...he's still "assessing the situation"...

We were talking several weeks ago about how many of the Republican candidates were acting like clowns. I think Bernie has done really well in this regard and needs to be recognized as the token Democratic clown in this election process.

[drauz]

I think someone forgot to give Bernie the memo...he's still "assessing the situation"...

We were talking several weeks ago about how many of the Republican candidates were acting like clowns. I think Bernie has done really well in this regard and needs to be recognized as the token Democratic clown in this election process.

I think they are keeping him in play in case Hillary get indicted.

[Androidpk]

Clinton does not have 2,383 delegates. The primary ain't over yet.

[drauz]

Clinton does not have 2,383 delegates. The primary ain't over yet.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/hillary-clinton-nomination-2016/

[Androidpk]

Clinton does not have 2,383 delegates. Super delegates votes aren't counted until the Democratic Convention. Hillary Clinton does not have the requisite amount of delegates to clinch the nomination. Hillary Clinton is not the nominee and the primary is still on. This is just a pathetic move on MSM's part.

[drauz]

Clinton does not have 2,383 delegates. Super delegates votes aren't counted until the Democratic Convention. Hillary Clinton does not have the requisite amount of delegates to clinch the nomination. Hillary Clinton is not the nominee and the primary is still on. This is just a pathetic move on MSM's part.

Ok... shes not the official nominee for another month...

[Ardwen]

Curious timing of these announcements, day before the last of the major primaries at least some of which were in serious doubt for Hillary.

[GS4Pirate]

Clinton does not have 2,383 delegates. Super delegates votes aren't counted until the Democratic Convention. Hillary Clinton does not have the requisite amount of delegates to clinch the nomination. Hillary Clinton is not the nominee and the primary is still on. This is just a pathetic move on MSM's part.

Good learning lesson for socialists. They took from the privileged white guy and gave to the oppressed woman. Isn't this what Bernie supporters are all about, you should be happy.

[drauz]

Good learning lesson for socialists. They took from the privileged white guy and gave to the oppressed woman. Isn't this what Bernie supporters are all about, you should be happy.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/3oAt2dA6LxMkRrGc0g/200.gif

[Jarvan]

Ok... shes not the official nominee for another month...

That is correct. She is not even the presumptive nominee. Unless of course the DEMOCRATIC process is meaningless.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/hillary-clinton-nomination-2016/


It's funny that yesterday during the day she was 27 delegates shy... then suddenly overnight she "clinched it" when there were ZERO primaries on Monday. The Dems will do anything for Hillary... ANYTHING.

[Gelston]

Do Bernie and his minions still believe they have a chance or do they just not feel like going home yet? I've heard that he is "changing the Democrat Party" with his staying in the race this long by pushing it towards his issues, but do you think it'll stay that far left when he isn't a problem anymore? Or do you think it'll go right back to where it was when Hillary is trying to pick up the more right leaning on the fence folks in the General Election? Did Bernie Sanders really accomplish anything here?

[Androidpk]

Curious timing of these announcements, day before the last of the major primaries at least some of which were in serious doubt for Hillary.

Poised to lose in California? Quick lets tell everyone it doesn't matter because the race is already over! Won't be surprised to see a lawsuit coming.

[Androidpk]

Ok... shes not the official nominee for another month...

She can be the nominee when she wins at the convention. Until then she and MSM can sit back and STFU.

[Androidpk]

It's funny that yesterday during the day she was 27 delegates shy... then suddenly overnight she "clinched it" when there were ZERO primaries on Monday. The Dems will do anything for Hillary... ANYTHING.

Didn't you hear? Hillary picked up some new super delegates yesterday, even though AP and the rest of the shit lords won't say who they are.

[Archigeek]

Curious timing of these announcements, day before the last of the major primaries at least some of which were in serious doubt for Hillary.

They've been doing that throughout the primaries: big pro-Hilary proclamation on Mondays, or even Tuesdays, right before major primary votes. Pretty low for news organizations to let themselves get used like that.

[Androidpk]

Very low of these "news" agencies to try and create their own news. As you said though, no surprise, they've been pulling this shit all along.

[Androidpk]

Glenn Greenwald sums this up nicely.

Perfect End to Democratic Primary: Anonymous Super-Delegates Declare Winner Through Media (https://theintercept.com/2016/06/07/perfect-end-to-democratic-primary-anonymous-super-delegates-declare-winner-through-media/)

Last night, Associated Press – on a day when nobody voted – surprised everyone (https://twitter.com/AP/status/739975278483656705) by abruptly declaring (http://bigstory.ap.org/779b7012af24446289623a968926ec04) the Democratic Party primary over and Hillary Clinton the victor. The decree, issued the night before the California primary in which polls show Clinton and Bernie Sanders in a very close race, was based on the media organization’s survey of “super-delegates”: the Democratic Party’s 720 insiders, corporate donors and officials whose votes for the presidential nominee count the same as the actually elected delegates. AP claims that super-delegates who had not previously announced their intentions privately told AP reporters that they intend to vote for Clinton, bringing her over the threshold. AP is concealing the identify of the decisive super-delegates who said this.

https://theintercept.com/2016/06/07/perfect-end-to-democratic-primary-anonymous-super-delegates-declare-winner-through-media/

[time4fun]

That is correct. She is not even the presumptive nominee. Unless of course the DEMOCRATIC process is meaningless.




It's funny that yesterday during the day she was 27 delegates shy... then suddenly overnight she "clinched it" when there were ZERO primaries on Monday. The Dems will do anything for Hillary... ANYTHING.

What are you ranting about? There were primaries over the weekend- including on Sunday. It's not shocking that they made the call Monday.

And the delegate math is clear. There is no way for Sanders- who is over 3 million votes behind, to win. Hence the term "Presumptive Nominee'

[Androidpk]

This is the perfect symbolic ending to the Democratic Party primary. The nomination is consecrated by a media organization, on a day when nobody voted, based on secret discussions with anonymous establishment insiders and donors whose identity the media organization – incredibly – conceals. The decisive edifice of super-delegates is itself anti-democratic and inherently corrupt: designed to prevent actual voters from making choices that the party establishment dislikes. But for a party run by insiders and funded by corporate interests, it’s only fitting that their nomination process ends with such an ignominious, awkward and undemocratic sputter.

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[Androidpk]

What are you ranting about? There were primaries over the weekend- including on Sunday. It's not shocking that they made the call Monday.

And the delegate math is clear. There is no way for Sanders- who is over 3 million votes behind, to win. Hence the term "Presumptive Nominee'

Are you saying it is impossible for Sanders to get the nomination?

[time4fun]

Are you saying it is impossible for Sanders to get the nomination?

Literally what I just said. We've known this for some time. Monday was the inevitable point in time when it was able to be called.

And while you all circle jerk your way around reality, she is not only the person with the most delegates (pledged and otherwise), she is the person with the most popular vote- by over 3 million votes.

The Dems don't do winner takes all. It's all by proportion- which is why it's impossible for him to win. He would have to win over 90% of every state today to go anywhere.

So she is the winner by every single metric- including the most democratic ones.

[Androidpk]

Literally what I just said. We've known this for some time. Monday was the inevitable point in time when it was able to be called.

And while you all circle jerk your way around reality, she is not only the person with the most delegates (pledged and otherwise), she is the person with the most popular vote- by over 3 million votes.

The Dems don't do winner takes all. It's all by proportion- which is why it's impossible for him to win. He would have to win over 90% of every state today to go anywhere.

So she is the winner by every single metric- including the most democratic ones.

Why was it inevitable? Because some anonymous people told the media so? lol

[time4fun]

Why was it inevitable? Because some anonymous people told the media so? lol

As usual you all are just so much smarter than the experts.

So why don't you enlighten us all on how he wins at this point?



There are 813 delegates left up for grabs.

HRC has 2382 (571 superdelegates)
Sanders has 1569 (49 Superdelegates)

You need 2382 to win.

So she won obviously. But let's play pretend. What happens now that lets him win?

[drauz]

What happens now that lets him win?

Hillary gets indicted.

[time4fun]

Hillary gets indicted.

Didn't stop Trump from being the nominee

[Androidpk]

Didn't stop Trump from being the nominee

the FBI indicted Trump?

[time4fun]

the FBI indicted Trump?

No, just NY State and two class action cases in Federal Court.

But go on - I'm still waiting for you to show us how Sanders wins the nomination and how I am just a mindless slave to media.

[Androidpk]

No, just NY State and two class action suites in Federal Court.

But go on - I'm still waiting for you to show us how Sanders wins the nomination and how I am just a mindless slave to media.

Super delegates vote for him at the convention, that's how.

[time4fun]

Super delegates vote for him at the convention, that's how.

Awesome.

How many? And why do they suddenly flip their votes? And how many of the upcoming delegates does he take and how?

[Whirlin]

As usual you all are just so much smarter than the experts.

So why don't you enlighten us all on how he wins at this point?

There are 813 delegates left up for grabs.

HRC has 2382 (571 superdelegates)
Sanders has 1569 (49 Superdelegates)

You need 2382 to win.

So she won obviously. But let's play pretend. What happens now that lets him win?

Superdelegates can be switched willy nilly until the convention, so those 571 can all instantly swap allegiance to Sanders at a moment's notice.

[time4fun]

Superdelegates can be switched willy nilly until the convention, so those 571 can all instantly swap allegiance to Sanders at a moment's notice.

And I could switch to a Republican at will.

But why would I?

The delegate votes are tallied by independent polling by media groups like CNN. These are people who have said that are supporting HRC. It would be beyond unprecedented for them to all suddenly switch their votes.

[Whirlin]

And I could switch to a Republican at will.

But why would I?
New information made available during the campaign, more votes by the constituents for Sanders rather than Clinton. Simply changing your mind. Why do people ever change their mind?

[time4fun]

New information made available during the campaign, more votes by the constituents for Sanders rather than Clinton. Simply changing your mind. Why do people ever change their mind?

New information over the next month or so?
All Bernie polling is completely wrong, and he gets more votes in the remaining states than anyone else had in modern politics?

[time4fun]

New information over the next month or so?
All Bernie polling is completely wrong, and he gets more votes in the remaining states than anyone else had in modern politics?

You know what makes her the Presumptive Nominee?

That the only way she could lose would be a scenario that I don't believe has ever happened and that is virtually impossible.

[Androidpk]

Awesome.

How many? And why do they suddenly flip their votes? And how many of the upcoming delegates does he take and how?

you're talking about events that haven't happened yet. Are you Miss Cleo?!

[Androidpk]

And I could switch to a Republican at will.

But why would I?



I dunno, maybe because you have half a clue? This whole "my party above everyone else" mentality is fucking asinine. The Trump lawsuits do exist, sure. Trump U I imagine you're talking about? Please tell me which lawsuit against Donald Trump involves him leaking TS/SAP Covert CIA agents names? Please show me a valid source, you can even use the completely impartial CNN as a source. Show me that source and I will never post on the PC again.

[time4fun]

you're talking about events that haven't happened yet. Are you Miss Cleo?!

ROFL

You don't even have an argument. I hate to break it to you, but it's not clairvoyance... It's math. It can be worked out. Let me know if you need some help with addition.

I know it can be tricky.

[GS4Pirate]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/3oAt2dA6LxMkRrGc0g/200.gif

I love you

:hippie:

[GS4Pirate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsSDqbot-EI

[Whirlin]

2008:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/10/dems.wrap/
On May 11th, The superdelegates were at 272-273

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2008
End of the election, 60 swapped sides from Clinton to Obama.

Here's an article during the switch:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/23/uselections2008.barackobama

tldr; People change their minds, and can change their minds until things are locked down in the convention.

[Warriorbird]

It is not impossible that we could be watching Sanders vs Ryan.

[Androidpk]

You ever notice when she speaks it is always self projection? Something she said literally 20 years ago could happen to her. Not saying it will happen, but if it did...


You better goddamn believe Hollywood is gonna movie and TV the FUCK out of this shit.

[Androidpk]

It is not impossible that we could be watching Sanders vs Ryan.

Maybe but that's even less plausible than an FBI indictment.

[Jarvan]

What are you ranting about? There were primaries over the weekend- including on Sunday. It's not shocking that they made the call Monday.

And the delegate math is clear. There is no way for Sanders- who is over 3 million votes behind, to win. Hence the term "Presumptive Nominee'

Hello moron. She was still 27 short as of Monday. The weekend races didn't clinch shit.

Sanders can still win... if the super delegates switch. Of course.. with your nose so far up Hillary's ass, you wouldn't admit that.

[Jarvan]

Didn't stop Trump from being the nominee

Trump hasn't been indicted for a crime.

Are you really this stupid?

[time4fun]

I dunno, maybe because you have half a clue? This whole "my party above everyone else" mentality is fucking asinine. The Trump lawsuits do exist, sure. Trump U I imagine you're talking about? Please tell me which lawsuit against Donald Trump involves him leaking TS/SAP Covert CIA agents names? Please show me a valid source, you can even use the completely impartial CNN as a source. Show me that source and I will never post on the PC again.

I didn't realize that was the only thing that could land you in court. Someone tell the NY AG and the Federal Judges! We have to stop them!!! They think they have a right to put Trump on trial!

Also, where is the factual info about HRC leaking actual CIA names? (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/clinton-emails-held-indirect-references-undercover-cia-officers-n510741)

[time4fun]

Trump hasn't been indicted for a crime.

Are you really this stupid?

No, he's just on trial for fraud and racketeering.

Good point!

And that's a much smaller deal than what HRC is on trial fo-. Oh wait. She isn't on trial at all.

Huh.

[time4fun]

2008:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/10/dems.wrap/
On May 11th, The superdelegates were at 272-273

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2008
End of the election, 60 swapped sides from Clinton to Obama.

Here's an article during the switch:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/23/uselections2008.barackobama

tldr; People change their minds, and can change their minds until things are locked down in the convention.

That's really not the same thing as over 500 delegates swapping. This race isn't even close.

[Androidpk]

2008 didn't involve a FBI investigation.

[time4fun]

Hello moron. She was still 27 short as of Monday. The weekend races didn't clinch shit.

Sanders can still win... if the super delegates switch. Of course.. with your nose so far up Hillary's ass, you wouldn't admit that.

You really should call up CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/superdelegates-hillary-clinton-nomination/index.html?eref=rss_politics) let them know about your amazing insights. You're so smart and so wise. They need to know that their political experts with dozens of years of experience, and their independent verification of delegate votes are all meaningless!

[Androidpk]

You really should call up CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/superdelegates-hillary-clinton-nomination/index.html?eref=rss_politics) let them know about your amazing insights. You're so smart and so wise. They need to know that their political experts with dozens of years of experience, and their independent verification of delegate votes are all meaningless!

Considering how low the bar is to get tripe written on CNN I imagine even jarvan, no offense, could write for CNN.

[time4fun]

2008 didn't involve a FBI investigation.

Keep waiting on Godot. He's bound to show up eventually.

[Androidpk]

Keep waiting on Godot. He's bound to show up eventually.

Pagliano and Guccifer.

[Androidpk]

Pagliano and Guccifer.

Played by Charlie Day and Danny Devito in the movie that's gonna be made.

[Jarvan]

No, he's just on trial for fraud and racketeering.

Good point!

And that's a much smaller deal than what HRC is on trial fo-. Oh wait. She isn't on trial at all.

Huh.

Oddly enough.. there are no Criminal Charges AGAINST Donald Trump. So.. yeah, there is that.

Once again.. you are wrong. But you know.. keep trying!

[Jarvan]

You really should call up CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/superdelegates-hillary-clinton-nomination/index.html?eref=rss_politics) let them know about your amazing insights. You're so smart and so wise. They need to know that their political experts with dozens of years of experience, and their independent verification of delegate votes are all meaningless!

Yeah.. because calling up people in the middle of the night and getting verbal say that they will do one thing.. BUT not want anyone to know who they are is GROUND BREAKING Journalism. Or.. believable even.

Remember.. CNN Stands for Clinton.. NOW NOW!

[Androidpk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07XpqAPj7lM

[time4fun]

Oddly enough.. there are no Criminal Charges AGAINST Donald Trump. So.. yeah, there is that.

Once again.. you are wrong. But you know.. keep trying!

There are no criminal charges against Hillary Clinton. I'd spend a little more time reminding yourself of that.

Trump is being sued in three different cases right now. So you're right, they're charges of civil fraud, racketeering, elder abuse, and other illegal business practices. Because god knows that's no big deal.

One in one of those instances, it's the damn State of New York that's suing him. The other two are class action law suits in the Federal courts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University#New_York_v._Trump_Entrepreneur_In itiative_LLC). And there are more investigations going on regarding corruption charges (http://www.salon.com/2016/06/03/trump_university_scandal_beginning_to_look_more_li ke_corruption_trump_made_political_donations_to_at torneys_general_who_quietly_dropped_investigations/) because of some really suspiciously timed donations to AGs who abruptly dropped their investigations and reports from at least one regulator in Texas who was told to stop investigating Trump for no clear reason. (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/06/05/3784897/trump-university-texas-investigation/)

So while you all spin yourselves in circles utterly convinced that HRC is unfit to be President because she's going to be indicted on Federal charges any day now (for Bengh- erm, no wait, it's emails now, right?), Trump is actually on trial facing some serious charges.

But of course, if there's no jail time attached, it's not that serious.

Except, you know, when it is.

[time4fun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07XpqAPj7lM

ROFL did you just cite the Sanders campaign on the subject? Very objective.

How about Nate Silver (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hillary-clinton-clinches-democratic-nomination-according-to-ap/) instead?

[Androidpk]

There are no criminal charges against Hillary Clinton. I'd spend a little more time reminding yourself of that.

Trump is being sued in three different cases right now. So you're right, they're charges of civil fraud, racketeering, elder abuse, and other illegal business practices. Because god knows that's no big deal.

One in one of those instances, it's the damn State of New York that's suing him. The other two are class action law suits in the Federal courts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University#New_York_v._Trump_Entrepreneur_In itiative_LLC). And there are more investigations going on regarding corruption charges (http://www.salon.com/2016/06/03/trump_university_scandal_beginning_to_look_more_li ke_corruption_trump_made_political_donations_to_at torneys_general_who_quietly_dropped_investigations/).

So while you all spin yourselves in circles utterly convinced that HRC is unfit to be President because she's going to be indicted on Federal charges any day now (for Bengh- erm, no wait, it's emails now, right?), Trump is actually on trial facing some serious charges.

But of course, if there's no jail time attached, it's not that serious.

Except, you know, when it is.

quoted for posterity

[Androidpk]

ROFL did you just cite the Sanders campaign on the subject? Very objective.

How about Nate Silver (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hillary-clinton-clinches-democratic-nomination-according-to-ap/) instead?

There is no hope for you.

[Gelston]

Prediction: Hillary Clinton wins the nomination and faces Trump in the General Election. Bernie Sanders vanishes back to whence he came and is forgotten about by the next election.

[GS4Pirate]

Time4fun supports segregation:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUgLPE_G0f0

Think like Time4fun or you are stupid.

[time4fun]

Time4fun supports segregation:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUgLPE_G0f0

Think like Time4fun or you are stupid.

i.e. you have neither facts nor logical arguments to offer.

Must be a day that ends in Y.

[Androidpk]

Pagliano & Guccifer has a nice ring to it don't you think?

[GS4Pirate]

i.e. you have neither facts nor logical arguments to offer.

Must be a day that ends in Y.

I just gave you facts retard, straight from the jackasses mouth.

[GS4Pirate]

Literally those super delegates are there to stop the peoples vote. Go democracy.

[time4fun]

I just gave you facts retard, straight from the jackasses mouth.

And once again- she has the popular vote. She's winning by 3 million votes. And that's going to be higher tonight.

She's winning by every single metric. (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hillary-clinton-clinches-democratic-nomination-according-to-ap/)

So no, I don't support segregation, and no there's nothing undemocratic going on here.

It astounds me the lengths you people will go to in order to invent problems. I have yet to hear a single one of you cite any of her actual policy stances. Nor Trump's for that matter.

It's almost like you know that if you had to engage with her as a candidate, instead of a caricature of conspiracy theories fueled by "anonymous sources and reports", and Trump as an actual candidate- this would be a lost cause.

She's going to win. And you'll tell yourselves for years to come that it was all some shadowy puppet figure pulling political strings and overlooked her "vast indiscretions" , but deep down inside you'll know what the rest of us know: she won because she was the best candidate in the race.

[Androidpk]

When she puts her ambitions above US national security you better damn believe no one gives a shit about her policy stances. She is simply unfit to be president of the United States at this point.

[GS4Pirate]

And once again- she has the popular vote. She's winning by 3 million votes. And that's going to be higher tonight.

She's winning by every single metric. (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hillary-clinton-clinches-democratic-nomination-according-to-ap/)

So no, I don't support segregation, and no there's nothing undemocratic going on here.

It astounds me the lengths you people will go to in order to invent problems. I have yet to hear a single one of you cite any of her actual policy stances. Nor Trump's for that matter.

It's almost like you know that if you had to engage with her as a candidate, instead of a caricature of conspiracy theories fueled by "anonymous sources and reports", and Trump as an actual candidate- this would be a lost cause.

She's going to win. And you'll tell yourselves for years to come that it was all some shadowy puppet figure pulling political strings and overlooked her "vast indiscretions" , but deep down inside you'll know what the rest of us know: she won because she was the best candidate in the race.

We don't do popular vote, we vote for delegates, those super delegates were not voted on by the people, they were selected by a party, parties have 0 rights to do so.

You support Hillary, she supported segregation, I.E. you support segregation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsSDqbot-EI

[Gelston]

they were selected by a party, parties have 0 rights to do so.



Parties have EVERY right to do so. They aren't Government organizations and they follow their charter.

[time4fun]

When she puts her ambitions above US national security you better damn believe no one gives a shit about her policy stances. She is simply unfit to be president of the United States at this point.

I think you're confusing her with Donald Trump. See, unlike Trump, Clinton actually did a lot for national security as a very successful Secretary of State. There is literally no concrete evidence that she put our national security at risk.

But here are some great pieces of information citing the way Trump is a threat to national security:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/usa-today-trump-a-threat-to-national-security/article/2577888 USA Today' Editorial Board

Time Magazine (http://time.com/4329338/donald-trump-radical-islam-commission/) talking about his Radial Islam Commission idea and the threat it poses to security

Former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/274375-panetta-trump-and-cruz-dangerous-to-national-security)pointing out that Trump is dangerous for our national security based on the things he is saying to win

The Economist Intelligence Unit (https://gfs.eiu.com/Archive.aspx?archiveType=globalrisk)warning that his stances on Mexico, China, and Muslim Countries could all lead to international crises

Some Republican Security Experts (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-america-safe-experts-warn-article-1.2552121) basically saying the same thing

Trump has already damaged our international reputation and has already started inciting militant reactions to his words. And he's doing it just to win an election.

So actually the thing you're worried about- is coming from the other side

But, of course, you won't read those articles. You won't consider those facts. Because this isn't actually about who poses a bigger risk to national security (because a Secretary of State vs a race baiting businessman who has suggested that Japan get nuclear weapons, that we ban Muslims from entering the country, that we build a wall to keep Mexican rapists out, that trade with China is destroying us, and that a Judge of Hispanic Heritage has no right to judge him because of it- meaning that only a white judge is allowed is a fucking obvious choice on the national security front).

And it's not about someone being on trial not being fit for office (because Trump is the only one who is on trial right now)

If it were actually about these things- it's not Clinton you'd be bashing in these threads.

This is about you not wanting that liberal democratic woman to win.

[Androidpk]

" very successful Secretary of State"

Yeah look at all the land she freed up in Libya as well as all the free vacations she gave to hundreds of refugees heading to europe!

Very successful my ass. She didn't accomplish shit except funnel money into the Clinton slush account.

[Androidpk]

This is about you not wanting that liberal democratic woman to win.

I'm all for a strong women to be president of this country. Democrat, Republican, Green, Independent.. doesn't matter to me. Hillary is not a strong leader though and certainly not one to be celebrated. I could see myself voting for someone like Tulsi Gabbard for the democratic nominee but never Hillary or anyone like her.

[time4fun]

Parties have EVERY right to do so. They aren't Government organizations and they follow their charter.

Exactly.

Pirate- nothing in your world view is actually based on reality. This has been established time and time again. At least AndroidPK makes some attempt to keep up with the issues.

[Gelston]

I'm all for a strong women to be president of this country. Democrat, Republican, Green, Independent.. doesn't matter to me. Hillary is not a strong leader though and certainly not one to be celebrated. I could see myself voting for someone like Tulsi Gabbard for the democratic nominee but never Hillary or anyone like her.

I'm not. White Christian men are the only people intelligent enough to be President. We must once again take up the white man's burden!

[Androidpk]

I'm not. White Christian men are the only people intelligent enough to be President. We must once again take up the white man's burden!

Neanderthal heritage or GTFO!

[Gelston]

Neanderthal heritage or GTFO!

That is pretty much every European. I have more Neanderthal than 70% of 23 and Me users. I should obviously be the next President. They will need to lower the age, but there shouldn't be a problem for us to make a quick Amendment.

(I'm .2% West African, don't tell Trump.)

[time4fun]

" very successful Secretary of State"

Yeah look at all the land she freed up in Libya as well as all the free vacations she gave to hundreds of refugees heading to europe!

Very successful my ass. She didn't accomplish shit except funnel money into the Clinton slush account.

At least you're finally bringing up something of policy relevance. Believe it or not- my primary concerns over HRC are related to some of her actions as Secretary of State. But there has never been a SoS who hasn't been hugely concerning- because they end up in crappiest positions having to deal with the most unwinnable situations. Remember- the Secretary of State doesn't have their own agenda. They enact the agenda of the President. Here's a great thought piece (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/was-hillary-clinton-a-good-secretary-of-state/2014/05/30/16daf9c0-e5d4-11e3-a86b-362fd5443d19_story.html)on the parts of what she did that were truly her personal touch, which points out that she will likely be regarded by historians as significantly better than your average Secretary of State.

Now that we're actually talking about this candidate's policies- here's (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/07/what-hillary-clinton-would-do-to-america/) a great starting point for her domestic agenda.

And here's (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/04/a-simple-guide-to-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-to-america/)Trump's. Though the Washington Post goes to great lengths to explain that he has a less well developed agenda than any presidential candidate in recent history, and that what does exist is extremely vague and contradictory. And largely poorly thought out.

[Androidpk]

The Libya clusterfuck was Hillary's agenda.

[Wrathbringer]

I think you're confusing her with Donald Trump. See, unlike Trump, Clinton actually did a lot for national security as a very successful Secretary of State.

Lol...no. Just no. Lol again.

[FinisWolf]

@ time4fun, et al,

Just an update that would eliminate the need (your supposed need that is) for this whole conversation, not one of them should be president, they all fucking suck ass!

Finis

[FinisWolf]

... she won because she was the best candidate in the race.

OMG! Please stop! To call Hilary or anyone else in the presidential race "the best candidate" sickens me to no end. They are all fly infested piles of shit. Are you really sure you want to say best in that scenario? Seriously?

Voter: (looking over mass piles of feces varying in their looks and smells of complete disgust) "Ayup, dat un ov'r dere be da best un fer sure!"

Me: (looking over the same crap) "Who fucking cares, they are all pieces of shit, and not even any good for compost."

What a choice! ... :walks off muttering: " ... the best candidate ..."

Finis

[FinisWolf]

She is simply unfit to be president of the United States at this point.

Same goes for the rest of them.

Finis

[Gelston]

We get it dude, you don't like any of the candidates, no need to make three consecutive posts about the same thing.

[FinisWolf]

Are you sure? I want to be sure you get it. So, um, you got it, right?

Finis

[Velfi]

I'm still unclear on your positions. Please elaborate.

[GS4Pirate]

Parties have EVERY right to do so. They aren't Government organizations and they follow their charter.

http://www.pbs.org/tpt/constitution-usa-peter-sagal/we-the-people/political-parties/

Thanks for playing "How a Government Fucks You"

[Gelston]

http://www.pbs.org/tpt/constitution-usa-peter-sagal/we-the-people/political-parties/

Thanks for playing "How a Government Fucks You"

Again, Political Parties are NOT a part of the Government. They wouldn't be mentioned in the Constitution. No one claimed they were. The follow their own charters written by themselves at the behest of their members. The Democrat Party provides for those Superdelegates in its charter.

[GS4Pirate]

I'm not. White Christian men are the only people intelligent enough to be President. We must once again take up the white man's burden!

It is a Government designed by privileged white people for privileged white people.

[GS4Pirate]

Again, Political Parties are NOT a part of the Government. They wouldn't be mentioned in the Constitution. No one claimed they were. The follow their own charters written by themselves at the behest of their members. The Democrat Party provides for those Superdelegates in its charter.

So we agree, they have no legal authority to select delegates, delegates are selected through votes in the districts they represent. I.E. Super delegates are not selected by votes and are illegitimate.

[GS4Pirate]

Beside the point, Time4fun is blindly supporting a privileged white racist and dislikes the other candidates because they are................ privileged white racists.

Just let them take more of your labor, that will fix things for sure.

[Warriorbird]

Beside the point, Time4fun is blindly supporting a privileged white racist and dislikes the other candidates because they are................ privileged white racists.

Just let them take more of your labor, that will fix things for sure.

Difficult to maintain moral high ground in the "Anarchists for Trump" camp.

[GS4Pirate]

Difficult to maintain moral high ground in the "Anarchists for Trump" camp.

It takes tools to tear shit down, sledge hammers, dynamite.......Trump trains.

It's not easy leaving the plantation, especially when you're the House Nigger.

[Gelston]

So we agree, they have no legal authority to select delegates, delegates are selected through votes in the districts they represent. I.E. Super delegates are not selected by votes and are illegitimate.

They don't select delegates for the General Election. They select them for THEIR PRIMARIES. The Republican and Democratic Primary are not Government related. They are Party events.

Party Primary Delegates ARE NOT General Election Delegates. Super Delegates for the Democrats are perfectly legitimate, because that Party decided that is one of the things that helps them select THEIR Candidate for President.

[time4fun]

They don't select delegates for the General Election. They select them for THEIR PRIMARIES. The Republican and Democratic Primary are not Government related. They are Party events.

Party Primary Delegates ARE NOT General Election Delegates. Super Delegates for the Democrats are perfectly legitimate, because that Party decided that is one of the things that helps them select THEIR Candidate for President.

Don't bother. He's both deeply stupid and too uneducated to realize it.


But LOL at Clinton being the privileged white racist in this race.

[GS4Pirate]

Don't bother. He's both deeply stupid and too uneducated to realize it.


But LOL at Clinton being the privileged white racist in this race.

"It's not easy to leave the plantation, especially if you are the House Nigger."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0XQZF_eLFY

[GS4Pirate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsSDqbot-EI

[Warriorbird]

It takes tools to tear shit down, sledge hammers, dynamite.......Trump trains.

It's not easy leaving the plantation, especially when you're the House Nigger.

So your hipstery edginess is gonna go for a big government Republican. Got it!

[Velfi]

So your hipstery edginess is gonna go for a big government Republican. Got it!

http://i.imgur.com/vLrVImt.jpg

[GS4Pirate]

They don't select delegates for the General Election. They select them for THEIR PRIMARIES. The Republican and Democratic Primary are not Government related. They are Party events.

Party Primary Delegates ARE NOT General Election Delegates. Super Delegates for the Democrats are perfectly legitimate, because that Party decided that is one of the things that helps them select THEIR Candidate for President.

This is true and it's a damn good thing the Democrats need privileged white people to do the thinking for them.

[GS4Pirate]

So your hipstery edginess is gonna go for a big government Republican. Got it!

Really I'm just voting for Trump so Time4fun has to pay me $40, the refusal to do so will taste even sweeter.

[GS4Pirate]

Don't bother. He's both deeply stupid and too uneducated to realize it.

N0 UR Stup3d!

Thought I would bring myself down to your level.

[time4fun]

Really I'm just voting for Trump so Time4fun has to pay me $40, the refusal to do so will taste even sweeter.

I have no idea where you got this imaginary bet from.

But way to say you sold your vote for $40.

And way to use racially charged language and intentionally offensive words to refer to LGBTQ people while simultaneously pretending like you've got any interest in issues of justice. Congratulations on using people of color and the poor to further your arguments with no actual empathy or compassion for either. Paul Ryan would be proud.

You're just a sad, angry, self-entitled little boy who is struggling to adjust to a world where other people who are different from you now get to govern you instead of the other way around.

[GS4Pirate]

I have no idea where you got this imaginary bet from.

But way to say you sold your vote for $40.

And way to use racially charged language and intentionally offensive words to refer to LGBTQ people while simultaneously pretending like you've got any interest in issues of justice. Congratulations on using people of color and the poor to further your arguments with no actual empathy or compassion for either. Paul Ryan would be proud.

You're just a sad, angry, self-entitled little boy who is struggling to adjust to a world where other people who are different from you now get to govern you instead of the other way around.

I'm so fucking laughing. Did the world stop turning because I used words? Are you wounded? Do the words nigger, retard and fag make you cry? Do you hate me even more than you hated me before? Do you need someone to hold your hand?

If it makes you feel better, you can call me names, of course I don't fucking care if you do, it won't change that you're a man that dresses like a woman that wants to pee with little girls.

Now it's an imaginary bet. Of course.

Hey $40 bucks is better than selling your vote to stay on the plantation.

[GS4Pirate]

BTW, still waiting for that source that says fags don't get medical treatment.

[Velfi]

http://i.imgur.com/FLrBUP4.gif

[Whirlin]

GS4Pirate = ParkBandit 2.0

[Velfi]

GS4Pirate = ParkBandit 2.0

You're a real asshole, Whirlin. You've made me feel bad for PB about this comparison. Fuck you.

[time4fun]

7985

[GS4Pirate]

GS4Pirate = ParkBandit 2.0

I'm so hurt, what will I ever do? I'm a victim.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy6spOAbxhg

[Warriorbird]

GS4Pirate = ParkBandit 2.0

http://i.imgur.com/RM8mqAr.jpg

[time4fun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO7nmnVzswk

[GS4Pirate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO7nmnVzswk

Yet another reason why women should stay in the kitchen.

[GS4Pirate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2OJwsit0WY

One of these women is running for president.

[GS4Pirate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHO1vo762c

[Candor]

Well I don't want to vote for Clinton and I don't want to vote for Trump. I am looking at the likely Libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson, a former governor of New Mexico.

And if that doesn't work out, I will find out who else will likely be on the official ballot (the names that most people don't hear about) and pick who I think is the most qualified person.

But Clinton or Trump? Not going to happen.

[Wrathbringer]

Well I don't want to vote for Clinton and I don't want to vote for Trump. I am looking at the likely Libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson, a former governor of New Mexico.

And if that doesn't work out, I will find out who else will likely be on the official ballot (the names that most people don't hear about) and pick who I think is the most qualified person.

But Clinton or Trump? Not going to happen.

There will only be three names on the ticket in all 50 states, the third being Gary Johnson, who will get my vote again this time around.

[Warriorbird]

I'd rather Johnson have the presidency than Trump.

[Androidpk]

I'd rather Johnson have the presidency than Trump.

On that I can agree with, and who knows, November is a long ways off.