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Kembal
04-01-2016, 05:56 PM
Only Wisconsin up for grabs on 4/5.

Pick:
WI - Rep/Dem

Kembal
04-01-2016, 05:57 PM
WI - Cruz/Sanders

Kembal
04-01-2016, 06:05 PM
Overall results: (included Missouri Dem primary results. Missouri GOP primary still not called)

ClydeR: 52-9
Drauz: 43-15
Kembal: 42-15
Archigeek: 39-18
Parkbandit: 29-10
Tgo01: 21-16
Fallen: 21-7
Candor: 18-4
Wross: 12-1
Delcry: 4-5
Jarvan: 3-3
elcidcannon: 2-2
Ardwen: 2-0
SHAFT: 1-1
everan: 0-2
Alanteax: 0-2

Archigeek
04-01-2016, 07:10 PM
Cruz/Sanders

Parkbandit
04-02-2016, 08:29 AM
Cruz/Sanders

Ditto

Gelston
04-02-2016, 08:33 AM
ClydeR/Delcry

WRoss
04-02-2016, 04:19 PM
Cruz Sanders

drauz
04-04-2016, 06:25 AM
cruz/sanders

Soulance
04-04-2016, 10:33 AM
Kaisch/Sanders

ClydeR
04-04-2016, 03:23 PM
Cruz / Sanders

Delcry
04-04-2016, 06:01 PM
Cruz / Sanders

ClydeR
04-05-2016, 05:43 PM
If Sanders wins Wisconsin tonight, as everyone so far has predicted, his climb to victory will become steeper, not easier. If you play with the math to compute the percentage of remaining delegates Sanders needs to win, you'll see that reducing the number of remaining delegates will have a greater impact than winning a majority of Wisconsin's delegates. Even if Sanders won all of Wisconsin's delegates, which he won't, his required percentage of remaining delegates would barely decrease. If Clinton wins a minority but significant percent of Wisconsin's delegates, Sanders' required percentage of the remaining delegates will actually increase. Unlike the Republican primary with its several candidates, somebody in the binary Clinton/Sanders fight will definitely enter the convention with a majority.

Latrinsorm should explain the math in unnecessarily complicated terms.

GS4Pirate
04-05-2016, 05:54 PM
If Sanders wins Wisconsin tonight, as everyone so far has predicted, his climb to victory will become steeper, not easier. If you play with the math to compute the percentage of remaining delegates Sanders needs to win, you'll see that reducing the number of remaining delegates will have a greater impact than winning a majority of Wisconsin's delegates. Even if Sanders won all of Wisconsin's delegates, which he won't, his required percentage of remaining delegates would barely decrease. If Clinton wins a minority but significant percent of Wisconsin's delegates, Sanders' required percentage of the remaining delegates will actually increase. Unlike the Republican primary with its several candidates, somebody in the binary Clinton/Sanders fight will definitely enter the convention with a majority.

Latrinsorm should explain the math in unnecessarily complicated terms.

I just think it's really cool that the DNC gave Hillary all those predetermined delegates to start with, there's no way a woman could win without a head start and it makes me proud that the Democrats are finally recognizing the truth of the matter.

time4fun
04-05-2016, 05:59 PM
I just think it's really cool that the DNC gave Hillary all those predetermined delegates to start with, there's no way a woman could win without a head start and it makes me proud that the Democrats are finally recognizing the truth of the matter.

Dem Primary system is definitely stacked.

ClydeR
04-06-2016, 09:40 AM
Before his victory last night in Wisconsin, Sanders needed to win 67.2% of the remaining delegates, including superdelegates. After his victory, he needs to win 67.6% of the remaining delegates.

ClydeR
04-06-2016, 09:44 AM
Trump needs 56% of the remaining delegates to have a majority. Cruz needs 82%. Kasich needs 124%.

Gnomad
04-06-2016, 10:51 AM
You guys do remember that Clinton got pledged a ton of early super delegates in '08 as well, right?

After Bernie's Daily News interview, I'm starting to think they might have the right idea, tbh.

Gelston
04-06-2016, 10:52 AM
You guys do remember that Clinton got pledged a ton of early super delegates in '08 as well, right?

After Bernie's Daily News interview, I'm starting to think they might have the right idea, tbh.

Yeah. They can switch at any time too. They did last time from Hillary to Obama when Obama started winning the regular delegates.

GS4Pirate
04-06-2016, 11:03 AM
You guys do remember that Clinton got pledged a ton of early super delegates in '08 as well, right?

After Bernie's Daily News interview, I'm starting to think they might have the right idea, tbh.

In '08 they were just showing their true colors (no pun intended), they had to weigh "would I rather be called a racist or a sexist?" and as we all know in the realm of political correctness racism > sexism. Now that the democrats don't have a colored person to back they will indeed stand behind the woman at all costs. With the likes of DWS running the DNC, there is not a chance in hell that these delegates will support an old white man.

Gelston
04-06-2016, 11:06 AM
Oh, so they hate Jews huh? Bunch of holocaust denying neonazis.

GS4Pirate
04-06-2016, 11:24 AM
Oh, so they hate Jews huh? Bunch of holocaust denying neonazis.

They do seem to be the anti-Israel party, does not take much research to find their hatred for the Jewish state.

Jarvan
04-06-2016, 12:08 PM
They do seem to be the anti-Israel party, does not take much research to find their hatred for the Jewish state.

And yet, isn't it odd that it seems the Jew vote is usually dem? Granted, I don't think US Jews really give two shits.. or one for that matter, about Israel.

Warriorbird
04-06-2016, 12:11 PM
And yet, isn't it odd that it seems the Jew vote is usually dem? Granted, I don't think US Jews really give two shits.. or one for that matter, about Israel.

It depends on which Jewish church branch they're a part of. They aren't an amorphous whole.

Gelston
04-06-2016, 12:13 PM
It depends on which Jewish church branch they're a part of. They aren't an amorphous whole.

All jews are the same, stfu.

Warriorbird
04-06-2016, 12:15 PM
All jews are the same, stfu.

Many of them support the Israeli opposition as well... which contrary to certain people's belief is a thing. They're a democracy.

GS4Pirate
04-06-2016, 12:58 PM
And yet, isn't it odd that it seems the Jew vote is usually dem? Granted, I don't think US Jews really give two shits.. or one for that matter, about Israel.

I'm on the "could give two shits" side. Honestly the whole "those who stand with Israel....." is a complete crock of shit that was added to Christian theology in the late 1800's- early 1900's. (Scofield)

Jarvan
04-06-2016, 04:34 PM
Wow.. I didn't realize that Kasich is being paid by Soros to stay in the race.

I shouldn't be surprised.

Latrinsorm
04-07-2016, 08:10 PM
Latrinsorm should explain the math in unnecessarily complicated terms.I have come across this phenomenon many times due to Kina Grannis being enrolled in contests decided by online votes. The easiest way to think about it is this: if I win 70% of the first half of voting, you need to win more than 70% of the second half to win. Let's say you win 60% of the third quarter, what percentage of votes would I have?

(70% * .5 + 40% * .25) divided by the amount of votes so far cast which is .75 = 60%

This suggests that if the fourth quarter mimics the third that we will tie, but this is an illusion. In fact if you win 60% of the third quarter too I will win by a pretty comfortable 55% to 45% margin.
You guys do remember that Clinton got pledged a ton of early super delegates in '08 as well, right? After Bernie's Daily News interview, I'm starting to think they might have the right idea, tbh.The gap in super delegates was 240 to 191 at the end of February 2008. The gap in super delegates is currently (post March 2016) 474 to 31. They could still switch of course, but I don't think the former is comparable to the latter.