The poison of welfare

[~Rocktar~]

A really nice article on fixing poverty. I will give you a clue, paying more to poor people isn't the answer and has actually exasperated the problem.

http://projects.timesfreepress.com/2016/03/povertypuzzle/family.html

[Delcry]

It is because the rich in this country have stolen all the wealth of this country. The solution is simple: Tax the top 10% at a 90% tax rate and increase the budget to welfare, giving the poor a livable salary. This, with increased minimum wage, free healthcare, free higher education, free profit sharing for ALL a company's employees, 6 weeks paid vacation to ALL employees, paid medical leave, etc...

Rich people will not like it, but it is the right thing to do.

[elcidcannon]

It is because the rich in this country have stolen all the wealth of this country. The solution is simple: Tax the top 10% at a 90% tax rate and increase the budget to welfare, giving the poor a livable salary. This, with increased minimum wage, free healthcare, free higher education, free profit sharing for ALL a company's employees, 6 weeks paid vacation to ALL employees, paid medical leave, etc...

Rich people will not like it, but it is the right thing to do.

I lol'd

[Delcry]

I lol'd

It was not meant to be funny.

Obviously, you are not enlightened or ready for Progress.

[Gelston]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql7uY36-LwA

[Soulance]

It was not meant to be funny.

Obviously, you are not enlightened or ready for Progress.
That's too bad because it is funny. And if it's not, then this is why America is as messed up as it is.

There has NEVER been a time or place where giving handouts is the right thing to do. It creates the opposite and the entitlement continues. People continue to learn how to and stay poor.

[GS4Pirate]

It is because the rich in this country have stolen all the wealth of this country. The solution is simple: Tax the top 10% at a 90% tax rate and increase the budget to welfare, giving the poor a livable salary. This, with increased minimum wage, free healthcare, free higher education, free profit sharing for ALL a company's employees, 6 weeks paid vacation to ALL employees, paid medical leave, etc...

Rich people will not like it, but it is the right thing to do.

I think the minimum wage should be a million dollars an hour.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l91ISfcuzDw

[Gelston]

That's too bad because it is funny. And if it's not, then this is why America is as messed up as it is.

There has NEVER been a time or place where giving handouts is the right thing to do. It creates the opposite and the entitlement continues. People continue to learn how to and stay poor.

You're arguing with the opposite of ClydeR. Have fun.

[Methais]

I wonder if Latrin has a split personality or if it's just some random noob trolling.

[Gelston]

I wonder if Latrin has a split personality or if it's just some random noob trolling.

I'M PRETTY SURE IT IS YOU

[Methais]

I'M PRETTY SURE IT IS YOU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssUA6DPKhRM

[Taernath]

I think the minimum wage should be a million dollars an hour.

I think the maximum wage should be a dollar for a million hours of work.

[Methais]

I think the maximum wage should be a dollar for a million hours of work.

Taxed at 90%.

[Vusit]

Taxed at 90%.
Go on. I think we have the beginnings of a plan here.

[Taernath]

Taxed at 90%.

Outsourced to North Korean child laborers.

[Jarvan]

I don't see why anyone should get paid anything. We should all work for the good of the community, and all receive exactly the same items.

We should all drive the same exact model car, live in exactly the same apartments, wear exactly the same clothes, have exactly the same furnishings and appliances, etc etc..

This way... EVERYONE is equal. It's only fair, right?

[Jeril]

LOL.

[Methais]

LOL.

That was deep.

[Warriorbird]

I don't see why anyone should get paid anything. We should all work for the good of the community, and all receive exactly the same items.

We should all drive the same exact model car, live in exactly the same apartments, wear exactly the same clothes, have exactly the same furnishings and appliances, etc etc..

This way... EVERYONE is equal. It's only fair, right?


The monolithic "enemies" of the Shadowrun world (borrowing heavily from cyberpunk mythos) are the corporations, dubbed "megacorporations", "megacorps", or simply "megas" or "corps" for short. Megacorporations in the 21st-century are global, with all but the smallest corps owning multiple subsidiaries and divisions around the world. They are the superpowers of the Shadowrun universe, with the largest corporations having far more political, economic, and military power than even the most powerful nation-states.

In Shadowrun, corporations are effectively "ranked" by the amount of assets under their control, including material, personnel, and property, as well as profit. These ranks are A, AA, and AAA; AAA corporations are top tier. Most corporations in the AA and AAA level are immune to domestic law, responsible only to themselves, and regulated only by the Corporate Court, an assembly of the ten AAA-rated corporations. All AAA-rated and most AA-rated corporations exhibit a privilege known as "extraterritoriality", meaning that any land owned by the corp is sovereign territory only to the corp and immune to any laws of the country within. Corporate territory is not foreign soil but corporate soil, just like its employees are corporate citizens, though dual citizenship in a corporation and a nation is common. The AAA corps, as well as numerous minor corporations, fight each other not only in the boardroom or during high-level business negotiations but also with physical destruction, clandestine operations, hostile extraction or elimination of vital personnel, and other means of sabotage. Because no corporation wants to be held liable for damages, it has to be done by deniable assets, or shadowrunners, invisible to the system where every citizen is tagged with a System Identification Number (SIN).

Obviously.

[Jarvan]

Obviously.

Well.. corps will have to be nationalized, obviously. We will also have to take over all other countries, since it wouldn't be fair for their people to have things we do not, and since we can't let their people suffer the destructive nature of greed.

I am sure as an enlightened person you are on board with this. Everyone will be equal and it will all be fair... finally.

[Soulance]

You're arguing with the opposite of ClydeR. Have fun.
Yea, that was dumb. My bad.

[postwins42]

It's bad to help poor people.

- every spiritual teacher ever

[Jarvan]

It's bad to help poor people.

- every spiritual teacher ever


"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." Maimonides - He worked as a rabbi, physician, and philosopher in Morocco and Egypt.

[drauz]

I don't see why anyone should get paid anything. We should all work for the good of the community, and all receive exactly the same items.

We should all drive the same exact model car, live in exactly the same apartments, wear exactly the same clothes, have exactly the same furnishings and appliances, etc etc..

This way... EVERYONE is equal. It's only fair, right?

Will we get assigned friends, to make sure everyone has the same?

[Warriorbird]

Well.. corps will have to be nationalized, obviously. We will also have to take over all other countries, since it wouldn't be fair for their people to have things we do not, and since we can't let their people suffer the destructive nature of greed.

I am sure as an enlightened person you are on board with this. Everyone will be equal and it will all be fair... finally.

http://pre02.deviantart.net/d111/th/pre/i/2012/227/2/c/welcome_to_rapture_by_open_circle-d5b5fyg.png

https://youtu.be/uumf9anB7Hk?t=3m22s

[Gelston]

I think everyone should give me their money.

I don't have an political point or social outlook for any of this, I just want all the money.

[Jarvan]

Will we get assigned friends, to make sure everyone has the same?

Everyone must be friends with everyone else.

[Soulance]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160312/d552115d20b74c052ffa4092c819842e.jpg

[Methais]

Will we get assigned friends, to make sure everyone has the same?

Will we all have to play the same class in GS?

[GS4Pirate]

It's bad to help poor people.

- every spiritual teacher ever

Helping the poor is done willingly, not by picking another mans pocket.

I know I just got trolled, but that shit just makes my skin crawl.

[Warriorbird]

Helping the poor is done willingly, not by picking another mans pocket.

I know I just got trolled, but that shit just makes my skin crawl.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSTd1LuiVUs

[Methais]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSTd1LuiVUs

What she meant is she gets by from sucking dick.

Speaking of sucking dick, I advise all women to do it. Otherwise you might get slapped so hard you'll grab the wrong side of your face.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeuA8ulwcwQ

[Taernath]

Speaking of sucking dick, I advise all women to do it.

Better listen to him, WB. He's in Women's Studies.

[Warriorbird]

What she meant is she gets by from sucking dick.

Speaking of sucking dick, I advise all women to do it. Otherwise you might get slapped so hard you'll grab the wrong side of your face.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeuA8ulwcwQ

That's definitely one take.

Streetcar is about a conservative girl who falls on hard times and thinks she can rely on the kindness of strangers and charity, gets raped, then ends up in the mental hospital.


Better listen to him, WB. He's in Women's Studies.

I look to him more for critical theory as it applies to, say, bolt spell damage factors for some reason.

[Wrathbringer]

What she meant is she gets by from sucking dick.

Speaking of sucking dick, I advise all women to do it. Otherwise you might get slapped so hard you'll grab the wrong side of your face.

I see how women are treated around here.

[Methais]

That's definitely one take.

Streetcar is about a conservative girl who falls on hard times and thinks she can rely on the kindness of strangers and charity, gets raped, then ends up in the mental hospital.

So I was right!


I look to him more for critical theory as it applies to, say, bolt spell damage factors for some reason.

That's odd, because I've never been a number cruncher in GS at all. I couldn't even tell you what any bolt's DF is without looking it up.

I can say with full confidence that Immolate is dog shit though.

[Jeril]

That was deep.

I know right? But in order for things to get better we need a lot of changes made and hard work put in that will never happen.

[Latrinsorm]

Which part of this article, if any, do you feel supports the claim that welfare is poisonous? Both the protagonist and her mother used welfare as a safety net, then escaped to a middle class existence. Surely this evidence, however anecdotal, can only tell us that the system works? There is also broader evidence cited:

"She also argued, with research behind her, that class-based stereotypes that separated the poor and middle class were often built on mistaken assumptions of laziness and immorality that had no grounding in science. ... Sure, the poor had bad guys and moochers among them, but so did every social class, she said."

I have no idea how good any of that evidence is, but again, this is an article YOU cited, and it appears at every turn to say the opposite of what you conclude from it.
Maimonides - He worked as a rabbi, physician, and philosopher in Morocco and Egypt.Maimonides said we should give poor people jobs, not merely teach them how to perform them. It would be interesting if we reorganized the welfare apparatus into a bureaucracy that would compel companies to hire people even if they didn't want to, but I suspect you would be very much against such a program.
Helping the poor is done willingly, not by picking another mans pocket.If people willingly did good we would never have had to invent government in the first place.

[Warriorbird]

Which part of this article, if any, do you feel supports the claim that welfare is poisonous? Both the protagonist and her mother used welfare as a safety net, then escaped to a middle class existence. Surely this evidence, however anecdotal, can only tell us that the system works? There is also broader evidence cited:

"She also argued, with research behind her, that class-based stereotypes that separated the poor and middle class were often built on mistaken assumptions of laziness and immorality that had no grounding in science. ... Sure, the poor had bad guys and moochers among them, but so did every social class, she said."

I have no idea how good any of that evidence is, but again, this is an article YOU cited, and it appears at every turn to say the opposite of what you conclude from it.Maimonides said we should give poor people jobs, not merely teach them how to perform them. It would be interesting if we reorganized the welfare apparatus into a bureaucracy that would compel companies to hire people even if they didn't want to, but I suspect you would be very much against such a program.If people willingly did good we would never have had to invent government in the first place.

You're too good a troll to be trolled like this. They don't give a damn about your serious points. This is about having somebody to feel better than.

[Shaps]

We should just kill everyone over 40 and take all their money and give it to everyone under 40. We'll call it a "reset" if you will.

That way, no more poor people.. no more social security or medicaid issues. It's perfect.

Course when the younger people hit 40, we need to kill them to.

Hopefully a guy named Logan doesn't escape our Utopian society and threaten to bring it down.

[Warriorbird]

Since the Republican Party respects Putin more than Obama we should obviously just go with an actual repressive dictatorship.

[GS4Pirate]

If people willingly did good we would never have had to invent government in the first place.

I'm trying to envision the first thoughts of a governing body and the reasons for which it was needed. I'm kind of thinking the last thing the tribal council was concerned with was Goober. Though it may have went like this:

Council member 1: Goober, he no hunt good, he no fish good..... Goober he need your Furs.
Rest of Council: Goober need to suck'm cock.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7226RHt0fI

[GS4Pirate]

I'm guessing it was most likely more about this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wstIBq2H0z8

[Parkbandit]

Since the Republican Party respects Putin more than Obama we should obviously just go with an actual repressive dictatorship.

Honestly, how do you function in the real world? Do your parents still have to wipe the drool off your chin because you breathe through your mouth? Hide you in the basement because you embarrass them with really, really stupid things you say all day?

[Warriorbird]

Honestly, how do you function in the real world? Do your parents still have to wipe the drool off your chin because you breathe through your mouth? Hide you in the basement because you embarrass them with really, really stupid things you say all day?

Because when you have nothing else... Archie Bunker that shit up.

Some of the rest of us were having a good time. You, on the other hand? Entirely unable to.

With that said? I can't imagine how you'd be responding if the Democrats had a candidate who made his supporters do fascist salutes, had Republicans beat up if they showed up to his rallies, and demagogued quite so hard. My statements are hardly the worst thing anybody's said about Trump either.

[Whirlin]

I heard that a sign of being a well functioning person in the real world is to leave as many anonymous negative reps on some online forums to as many people as possible.

[Warriorbird]

I heard that a sign of being a well functioning person in the real world is to leave as many anonymous negative reps on some online forums to as many people as possible.

You're right. I just can't compete with that.

[Parkbandit]

Because when you have nothing else... Archie Bunker that shit up.

Easy Meathead.


Some of the rest of us were having a good time. You, on the other hand? Entirely unable to.

"I wuz jus kiddin guys!"

That excuse never, ever gets old. Really.


With that said? I can't imagine how you'd be responding if the Democrats had a candidate who made his supporters do fascist salutes, had Republicans beat up if they showed up to his rallies, and demagogued quite so hard. My statements are hardly the worst thing anybody's said about Trump either.

Wait.. so you were kidding or you weren't?

And LOL at you dropping the Godwin. I'd say well played, but it's lazy.

[Parkbandit]

I heard that a sign of being a well functioning person in the real world is to leave as many anonymous negative reps on some online forums to as many people as possible.

You're still upset about that.

What if I said "Sorry" and I will never, ever leave you an anonymous rep again.. will you finally be able to get over it? Let's try!

Sorry!

[Warriorbird]

Easy Meathead.



"I wuz jus kiddin guys!"

That excuse never, ever gets old. Really.



Wait.. so you were kidding or you weren't?

And LOL at you dropping the Godwin. I'd say well played, but it's lazy.

Amidst a troll thread where everybody was clearly not being serious I'd think that'd be clear. You're the guy who rolls in acting like an ass.

...and you wonder about how I'm like "in real life?"

[Gelston]

Amidst a troll thread where everybody was clearly not being serious I'd think that'd be clear. You're the guy who rolls in acting like an ass.

...and you wonder about how I'm like "in real life?"

Troll thread? I thought Rocktar was serious about all the bullshit he always posts.

[Warriorbird]

Troll thread? I thought Rocktar was serious about all the bullshit he always posts.

Damn. I think I tuned out what he posted almost completely. I thought Jarvan started this!

[Latrinsorm]

I'm trying to envision the first thoughts of a governing body and the reasons for which it was needed. I'm kind of thinking the last thing the tribal council was concerned with was Goober. Though it may have went like this:

Council member 1: Goober, he no hunt good, he no fish good..... Goober he need your Furs.
Rest of Council: Goober need to suck'm cock.The origin of government and society in general is a really interesting topic, I encourage you to research it rather than just reckon about it.

[Gelston]

The origin of government and society in general is a really interesting topic, I encourage you to research it rather than just reckon about it.

What happens is your hunting party gets killed by a sabertooth tiger and you alone bring people together under your rule as you fight another tribe of humans.

-Source Far Cry Primal.

[Parkbandit]

Amidst a troll thread where everybody was clearly not being serious I'd think that'd be clear.

"We was just kiddin!"


You're the guy who rolls in acting like an ass.

No, I was just calling out a stupid post by a stupid person.


...and you wonder about how I'm like "in real life?"

Again, no. I just wonder how someone like you is able to even turn on his computer by himself.

[Warriorbird]

"We was just kiddin!"

No, I was just calling out a stupid post by a stupid person.

Again, no. I just wonder how someone like you is able to even turn on his computer by himself.

It'd be too much for you to stop being an asshole. Thankfully other people are capable of enjoying life. Nothing I said was even particularly novel.

[GS4Pirate]

The origin of government and society in general is a really interesting topic, I encourage you to research it rather than just reckon about it.

I know well enough, I'm sure there were a couple other council members that were thinking of Goober or at least pretended to while they offered to gather the furs.

I do know it's a good thing we invented government so we could stop this shit:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpUT3du6yPo

[Parkbandit]

Nothing I said was even particularly novel.

It never is. It's usually just regurgitation of other ignorant people, like in this case.

[Wrathbringer]

It never is. It's usually just regurgitation of other ignorant people, like in this case.

:lol: Get some, warriorturd.

[Warriorbird]

It never is. It's usually just regurgitation of other ignorant people, like in this case.

It must be difficult to have such resentment for the majority of the country. There's always retiring in Russia for you.

[Parkbandit]

It must be difficult to have such resentment for the majority of the country. There's always retiring in Russia for you.

Can you at least try to make sense?

We're discussing how dumb you are.

Stay on topic.

[Warriorbird]

Can you at least try to make sense?

We're discussing how dumb you are.

Stay on topic.

When you have nothing this is what you go with. You're so obsessed that you devoted countless hours to anonymous neg repping nearly everyone on this forum. Wrathbringer wishes he was as unhinged about rep as you were.

The simple fact of the matter is that Trump says a lot of extremist stuff. It appeals to you and the folks who've taken your party the "your way or the highway." road. There's a lot of Americans, many of them Republicans, who just don't feel that way. It's extremely simple to make fun of the crazy shit Trump does. He wouldn't ACTUALLY be a dictator, we know that, but few politicians are going to do something like order their supporters at a rally to "get someone" or do something that looks quite so much like a Facist salute. The commentary resonates. You're touchy about it because it makes you look bad so you have to go, "DURP, YUR STUPID." like a 12 year old who console games. I'm well aware that I'm a member of a party who's quite likely going to run somebody who'd do or say anything to get elected. She doesn't go suggesting that Christians or Canadians not be allowed to immigrate to the country, however. You don't really have a leg to stand on so it's 12 year old on Call of Duty mode. It's sad to me that you can't accept anybody making fun of your candidate but there's a reason your party is in its current state.

[Parkbandit]

When you have nothing this is what you go with. You're so obsessed that you devoted countless hours to anonymous neg repping nearly everyone on this forum. Wrathbringer wishes he was as unhinged about rep as you were.

Clearly you're still very upset by this. I'll give you the same exact deal I gave someone else with such hurt feelings... but we both know you can't get over it. :( Poor thing.


The simple fact of the matter is that Trump says a lot of extremist stuff. It appeals to you and the folks who've taken your party the "your way or the highway." road. There's a lot of Americans, many of them Republicans, who just don't feel that way. It's extremely simple to make fun of the crazy shit Trump does. He wouldn't ACTUALLY be a dictator, we know that, but few politicians are going to do something like order their supporters at a rally to "get someone" or do something that looks quite so much like a Facist salute. The commentary resonates. You're touchy about it because it makes you look bad so you have to go, "DURP, YUR STUPID." like a 12 year old who console games. I'm well aware that I'm a member of a party who's quite likely going to run somebody who'd do or say anything to get elected. She doesn't go suggesting that Christians or Canadians not be allowed to immigrate to the country, however. You don't really have a leg to stand on so it's 12 year old on Call of Duty mode. It's sad to me that you can't accept anybody making fun of your candidate but there's a reason your party is in its current state.

Trump does say some stuff very sensitive people would call "extremist". I get that... he's certainly not for everyone. And I understand that these same types want to compare him to Hitler or make fun of his hair because that makes them feel better about themselves or their very flawed candidate. But at the end of the day, Trump is still 100x better than a candidate that should be charged with a felony or a socialist who pretends that for the last 25 years, he wasn't part of the system... he's an "outsider!"

[Wrathbringer]

When you have nothing this is what you go with. You're so obsessed that you devoted countless hours to anonymous neg repping nearly everyone on this forum. Wrathbringer wishes he was as unhinged about rep as you were.

I'm offended by this.

[GS4Pirate]

Attack politics 1800's:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_zTN4BXvYI

[Gelston]

I'm offended by this.

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE A DISTANT #3!? OR SHOULD WE JUST CALL YOU RUBIO?

[Astray]

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE A DISTANT #3!? OR SHOULD WE JUST CALL YOU RUBIO?

http://www.picgifs.com/reaction-gifs/reaction-gifs/nailed-it-amazed-excited/picgifs-nailed-it-amazed-excited-3908979.gif

[Delcry]

This thread has been derailed by a bunch of fascist loving neocons who would rather talk about anything but the real problem in America today: The wage gap between the have and the have nots and the plan to get everyone on an even playing field. It's not fair that one person makes 100x what someone else makes and until this is addressed, the country will continue to be divided.

[Ltlprprincess]

Attack politics 1800's:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_zTN4BXvYI

I lol'd.

[Warriorbird]

This thread has been derailed by a bunch of fascist loving neocons who would rather talk about anything but the real problem in America today: The wage gap between the have and the have nots and the plan to get everyone on an even playing field. It's not fair that one person makes 100x what someone else makes and until this is addressed, the country will continue to be divided.

http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html

[caelric]

It is because the rich in this country have stolen all the wealth of this country. The solution is simple: Tax the top 10% at a 90% tax rate and increase the budget to welfare, giving the poor a livable salary. This, with increased minimum wage, free healthcare, free higher education, free profit sharing for ALL a company's employees, 6 weeks paid vacation to ALL employees, paid medical leave, etc...




Despite this being clyder from the other side, and all sarcasm aside, unfortunately, probably 2/3rds of Bernie supporters (and Latrinsorm, as well) actually believe this is how the USA should be run.

[Methais]

Despite this being clyder from the other side, and all sarcasm aside, unfortunately, probably 2/3rds of Bernie supporters (and Latrinsorm, as well) actually believe this is how the USA should be run.

Would Latrin still vote for Bernie even though Bernie wants to legalize psychosis?

[Delcry]

Despite this being clyder from the other side, and all sarcasm aside, unfortunately, probably 2/3rds of Bernie supporters (and Latrinsorm, as well) actually believe this is how the USA should be run.

There are more than just "2/3rds of Bernie Supporters" of us that are enlightened enough to realize we should not have to work all of our lives to feel accomplished and successful. There is more to life than the pursuit of money. We should be able to do whatever we want to do in life and not have to worry about where our next meal comes from; how we remain healthy; where we should live; how we will connect to the Internet; how we will keep warm/cold; how we will get to where we want to go; etc. Take the pressures out of scraping out a meager life and our governments should provide us all with the rights we should already have and we could eliminate so many social problems we have to deal with currently; like crime, war, currency, depression, anxiety, etc.

But until the backward thinking Neanderthals get out of the way and let the new generation Progress towards the future, we will be stuck fighting over scraps.

[GS4Pirate]

There are more than just "2/3rds of Bernie Supporters" of us that are enlightened enough to realize we should not have to work all of our lives to feel accomplished and successful. There is more to life than the pursuit of money. We should be able to do whatever we want to do in life and not have to worry about where our next meal comes from; how we remain healthy; where we should live; how we will connect to the Internet; how we will keep warm/cold; how we will get to where we want to go; etc. Take the pressures out of scraping out a meager life and our governments should provide us all with the rights we should already have and we could eliminate so many social problems we have to deal with currently; like crime, war, currency, depression, anxiety, etc.

But until the backward thinking Neanderthals get out of the way and let the new generation Progress towards the future, we will be stuck fighting over scraps.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_gU50mfehI&ebc=ANyPxKqzhnJwBGchiXfcRmk42twr2kD3M7y1XjfwSl4cPO ScQHeZGFM7yU9HwdIrP159rncEL3o_duasqdQC4tZElEh5wJRn PQ

[GS4Pirate]

I lol'd.

I'm always a bit set back when people complain about political language in the US, we were pretty much settled by rum runners, slave traders and pirates. It's why we rock so damn hard.

[kutter]

There are more than just "2/3rds of Bernie Supporters" of us that are enlightened enough to realize we should not have to work all of our lives to feel accomplished and successful. There is more to life than the pursuit of money. We should be able to do whatever we want to do in life and not have to worry about where our next meal comes from; how we remain healthy; where we should live; how we will connect to the Internet; how we will keep warm/cold; how we will get to where we want to go; etc. Take the pressures out of scraping out a meager life and our governments should provide us all with the rights we should already have and we could eliminate so many social problems we have to deal with currently; like crime, war, currency, depression, anxiety, etc.

But until the backward thinking Neanderthals get out of the way and let the new generation Progress towards the future, we will be stuck fighting over scraps.

I laughed at this because I thought you were making a joke for a moment.

You and the 'more than 2/3rds of Bernie supporters' need to get a life. Nothing is promised to you but life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, don't like it, move to Sweden or Canada, or some other country with a socialist bent. When it is all boiled down to it, we are animals, and it is survival of the fittest. I managed to make a very good life for myself and my family from an average middle class upbringing, I have 2 retirements already and am working on 2 more, and guess how I did it, I GOT UP EVERY MORNING AND I WENT TO FUCKING WORK!!!! I am 49 and plan on retiring in 6 years for good, I will be mostly debt free and have sufficient income to enjoy life. So when I hear asshats like you complaining about not having enough it galls the shit out of me. I spent 22 years in the military guaranteeing you the the right to be so idiotic, but does not mean I have to like it.

[Delcry]

I laughed at this because I thought you were making a joke for a moment.

I can assure you, I was not.



You and the 'more than 2/3rds of Bernie supporters' need to get a life. Nothing is promised to you but life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, don't like it, move to Sweden or Canada, or some other country with a socialist bent. When it is all boiled down to it, we are animals, and it is survival of the fittest. I managed to make a very good life for myself and my family from an average middle class upbringing, I have 2 retirements already and am working on 2 more, and guess how I did it, I GOT UP EVERY MORNING AND I WENT TO FUCKING WORK!!!! I am 49 and plan on retiring in 6 years for good, I will be mostly debt free and have sufficient income to enjoy life. So when I hear asshats like you complaining about not having enough it galls the shit out of me. I spent 22 years in the military guaranteeing you the the right to be so idiotic, but does not mean I have to like it.

I just have a different idea of what a life is than you do. I do not believe that I should be forced to work to get my life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Why does working hard every day for 22 years make you somehow better than I am? I went to college, I studied hard, I've become enlightened as to what I believe a good life should be, and working 8-10 hours a day for 45 years is not it. I should be able to read, paint, think about things, etc. and not have to worry like you about the almighty dollar, hording your wealth away like you are somehow special or entitled.

And to be fair, you wasted your 22 years in the military. We haven't required your protection to give us anything. Killing people is not the answer to peace; time to join us in the 21st century.

[Wrathbringer]

I laughed at this because I thought you were making a joke for a moment.

You and the 'more than 2/3rds of Bernie supporters' need to get a life. Nothing is promised to you but life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, don't like it, move to Sweden or Canada, or some other country with a socialist bent. When it is all boiled down to it, we are animals, and it is survival of the fittest. I managed to make a very good life for myself and my family from an average middle class upbringing, I have 2 retirements already and am working on 2 more, and guess how I did it, I GOT UP EVERY MORNING AND I WENT TO FUCKING WORK!!!! I am 49 and plan on retiring in 6 years for good, I will be mostly debt free and have sufficient income to enjoy life. So when I hear asshats like you complaining about not having enough it galls the shit out of me. I spent 22 years in the military guaranteeing you the the right to be so idiotic, but does not mean I have to like it.

lol you fell for the whole "get up every morning and work" bit, eh? Eesh, fell for it hard, too. Sorry about your wasted life.

[Wrathbringer]

I can assure you, I was not.



I just have a different idea of what a life is than you do. I do not believe that I should be forced to work to get my life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Why does working hard every day for 22 years make you somehow better than I am? I went to college, I studied hard, I've become enlightened as to what I believe a good life should be, and working 8-10 hours a day for 45 years is not it. I should be able to read, paint, think about things, etc. and not have to worry like you about the almighty dollar, hording your wealth away like you are somehow special or entitled.

And to be fair, you wasted your 22 years in the military. We haven't required your protection to give us anything. Killing people is not the answer to peace; time to join us in the 21st century.

qft. I completely agree with you. This is what bernie is about? Count me in. One more vote for Sanders, right here.

[Candor]

I went to college, I studied hard, I've become enlightened as to what I believe a good life should be, and working 8-10 hours a day for 45 years is not it. I should be able to read, paint, think about things, etc. and not have to worry like you about the almighty dollar

No, you should *not* have the right to do such activities without working to acquire the needed funds to support them. Clearly you do not understand the value and necessity of hard work, and if you don't understand those concepts than I doubt I could explain them to you.

[Back]

The idea that one must slave away for pennies in order to have food, shelter, and health is espoused by the people who have all the money most of whom did not have to work for it themselves. They've created a culture of greed where showing off luxury is considered the pinnacle of success. This is bait so that they have obedient workers they pay low wages in order to keep their false gilded thrones. The entire system has been set up by and for the rich.

The idea that "life sucked for me it has to suck for you too" is perpetuating misery to keep the people who are on top in their places in power. Life does not have to suck for anyone.

[GS4Pirate]

The idea that one must slave away for pennies in order to have food, shelter, and health is espoused by the people who have all the money most of whom did not have to work for it themselves. They've created a culture of greed where showing off luxury is considered the pinnacle of success. This is bait so that they have obedient workers they pay low wages in order to keep their false gilded thrones. The entire system has been set up by and for the rich.

The idea that "life sucked for me it has to suck for you too" is perpetuating misery to keep the people who are on top in their places in power. Life does not have to suck for anyone.

STFU and go make your paper.

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[Gelston]

The idea that one must slave away for pennies in order to have food, shelter, and health is espoused by the people who have all the money most of whom did not have to work for it themselves. They've created a culture of greed where showing off luxury is considered the pinnacle of success. This is bait so that they have obedient workers they pay low wages in order to keep their false gilded thrones. The entire system has been set up by and for the rich.

The idea that "life sucked for me it has to suck for you too" is perpetuating misery to keep the people who are on top in their places in power. Life does not have to suck for anyone.

No political thread is complete until this moron chimes in.

[Back]

A really nice article on fixing poverty. I will give you a clue, paying more to poor people isn't the answer and has actually exasperated the problem.

http://projects.timesfreepress.com/2016/03/povertypuzzle/family.html

Just read the link that started this mess. Good read. Thanks.

[Parkbandit]

The idea that one must slave away for pennies in order to have food, shelter, and health is espoused by the people who have all the money most of whom did not have to work for it themselves. They've created a culture of greed where showing off luxury is considered the pinnacle of success. This is bait so that they have obedient workers they pay low wages in order to keep their false gilded thrones. The entire system has been set up by and for the rich.

The idea that "life sucked for me it has to suck for you too" is perpetuating misery to keep the people who are on top in their places in power. Life does not have to suck for anyone.


I just have a different idea of what a life is than you do. I do not believe that I should be forced to work to get my life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Why does working hard every day for 22 years make you somehow better than I am? I went to college, I studied hard, I've become enlightened as to what I believe a good life should be, and working 8-10 hours a day for 45 years is not it. I should be able to read, paint, think about things, etc. and not have to worry like you about the almighty dollar, hording your wealth away like you are somehow special or entitled.

And to be fair, you wasted your 22 years in the military. We haven't required your protection to give us anything. Killing people is not the answer to peace; time to join us in the 21st century.

One is a troll. One is an idiot.

But they sound exactly the same.

[Delcry]

The idea that one must slave away for pennies in order to have food, shelter, and health is espoused by the people who have all the money most of whom did not have to work for it themselves. They've created a culture of greed where showing off luxury is considered the pinnacle of success. This is bait so that they have obedient workers they pay low wages in order to keep their false gilded thrones. The entire system has been set up by and for the rich.

The idea that "life sucked for me it has to suck for you too" is perpetuating misery to keep the people who are on top in their places in power. Life does not have to suck for anyone.

F-I-N-A-L-L-Y!

Someone understands.

[Delcry]

No, you should *not* have the right to do such activities without working to acquire the needed funds to support them. Clearly you do not understand the value and necessity of hard work, and if you don't understand those concepts than I doubt I could explain them to you.

Let me guess: You are some 40+ year old white male with no college degree.

[~Rocktar~]

Let me guess: You are some 40+ year old white male with no college degree.

Actually, he is an insufferably bright young man with a college degree and a pretty cush job in the financial industry.

[GS4Pirate]

Just read the link that started this mess. Good read. Thanks.

Honestly, the biggest hurdle one faces when trying to produce wealth (legally) is government. I'm actually turning away work right now because I'm worried about my taxes next year, it's fucking stupid.

[kutter]

I was thinking more and more about the pipe dream that is a Bernie Sanders win and financially it could be a great thing for me. Most of my retirement income is going to be tax exempt, so bring on the free shit if he wins, I will retire a few years early, restructure a few things, have a reportable income of something stupid like $30K a year and suck up all the free goodies he cannot pay for. In the meantime I will practice punching .30 diameter holes in pieces of paper at 600 yards for when the next revolution comes.

[GS4Pirate]

I was thinking more and more about the pipe dream that is a Bernie Sanders win and financially it could be a great thing for me. Most of my retirement income is going to be tax exempt, so bring on the free shit if he wins, I will retire a few years early, restructure a few things, have a reportable income of something stupid like $30K a year and suck up all the free goodies he cannot pay for. In the meantime I will practice punching .30 diameter holes in pieces of paper at 600 yards for when the next revolution comes.

Bernie would be raping your assets like a supporter at a Trump rally.

[Warriorbird]

Even if a miracle happened and Democrats won the Senate there would be little danger of Sanders's platform being passed in the House.

[GS4Pirate]

Even if a miracle happened and Democrats won the Senate there would be little danger of Sanders's platform being passed in the House.

So really, voting for The Burn is a complete waste of time and considering Hillary is a criminal.........welcome to the fold.

[CrystalTears]

I was almost on your side, but then you threw this gem in...


And to be fair, you wasted your 22 years in the military. We haven't required your protection to give us anything. .
And you lost me. This was just inconsiderate and unnecessary.

I KNOW WHERE I AM! I LOST MY HEAD FOR A SECOND THERE!

[Gelston]

I was almost on your side, but then you threw this gem in...

And you lost me. This was just inconsiderate and unnecessary.

I KNOW WHERE I AM! I LOST MY HEAD FOR A SECOND THERE!

Haha, you responded seriously to a Delcry post.

[Methais]

Even if a miracle happened and Democrats won the Senate there would be little danger of Sanders's platform being passed in the House.

That's what people thought when Republicans won the House in 2010.

But you might be right, since Bernie is white. Because white rhymes with right and left rhymes with wrong.


Haha, you responded seriously to a Delcry post.

CT has been gone for so long I'm not sure she even knows who ClydeR is, nevermind Delcry.

[Gelston]

CT has been gone for so long I'm not sure she even knows who ClydeR is, nevermind Delcry.

Oh, okay.

Hey, CT, ClydeR is Latrinsorm and Delcry is Methais.

[Methais]

Oh, okay.

Hey, CT, ClydeR is Latrinsorm and Delcry is Methais.

Bullshit.

ClydrR is Delcry and Latrinsorm is Methais.

Hey wait a minute!

[CrystalTears]

FML LOL!

[Warriorbird]

So really, voting for The Burn is a complete waste of time and considering Hillary is a criminal.........welcome to the fold.

I've made my choice between wannabe Frank Underwood and wannabe Mussolini a while ago. Doesn't mean I'm thrilled by it... but Trump isn't an alternative I'm interested in.

[Parkbandit]

I've made my choice between wannabe Frank Underwood and wannabe Mussolini a while ago. Doesn't mean I'm thrilled by it... but Trump isn't an alternative I'm interested in.

http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/07/no-fucking-way-gif.gif?gs=a

[GS4Pirate]

I've made my choice between wannabe Frank Underwood and wannabe Mussolini a while ago. Doesn't mean I'm thrilled by it... but Trump isn't an alternative I'm interested in.

I'm just making sure that's written in stone, the Bolsheviks haven't burnt the Quicken Loans Arena down yet, you sure about that?

[Parkbandit]

I'm just making sure that's written in stone, the Bolsheviks haven't burnt the Quicken Loans Arena down yet, you sure about that?

Come on now.. at least he is trying something "new" and "fresh" and not comparing Trump with Hitler. This time it's Mussolini. TOTALLY different.

[Hulkein]

Delcry's avatar is the type of illegal immigration rationale that just makes me laugh.

#MAGA

[GS4Pirate]

Come on now.. at least he is trying something "new" and "fresh" and not comparing Trump with Hitler. This time it's Mussolini. TOTALLY different.

Personally I look forward to the Bolsheviks and the Nationals taking to the streets once again, it's long overdue. Almost like it's been scripted......I didn't mean to say that.

[Warriorbird]

Come on now.. at least he is trying something "new" and "fresh" and not comparing Trump with Hitler. This time it's Mussolini. TOTALLY different.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEduU5e8QkVmotRte/giphy.gif

[GS4Pirate]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEduU5e8QkVmotRte/giphy.gif

You're worse than the Water boys mother:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlWgF8dqneg

[Parkbandit]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEduU5e8QkVmotRte/giphy.gif

Ah.. I stand corrected. It's just another regurgitation.

[GS4Pirate]

Let's play "What Tyrant are they", the game show where we post your favorite Politician and you get to match your favorite Tyrant to the picture. We thought who better to start of our first show with none other than our countries favorite darling:

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[Warriorbird]

Ah.. I stand corrected. It's just another regurgitation.

Must be tough to be so bitter about your party's candidate. I'm having flashbacks to when you said nobody thought like me about Trump.

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/styles/tout_image_612x380/public/i/2016/03/11/hitler-02.jpg


Let's play "What Tyrant are they", the game show where we post your favorite Politician and you get to match your favorite Tyrant to the picture. We thought who better to start of our first show with none other than our countries favorite darling:

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There's some other comparisons too. From the National Review!

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432797/donald-trump-george-wallace-2016

[GS4Pirate]

Let's play "What Tyrant are they", the game show where we post your favorite Politician and you get to match your favorite Tyrant to the picture. We thought who better to start of our first show with none other than our countries favorite darling:

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I knew she was Hitler with a vagina:

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[GS4Pirate]

Must be tough to be so bitter about your party's candidate. I'm having flashbacks to when you said nobody thought like me about Trump.

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/styles/tout_image_612x380/public/i/2016/03/11/hitler-02.jpg



There's some other comparisons too. From the National Review!

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432797/donald-trump-george-wallace-2016

PB's comment still holds water, Sarah is a nobody.

[Gelston]

I compare Hilary Clinton with Hilary Clinton....

Oh.

[GS4Pirate]

I compare Hilary Clinton with Hilary Clinton....

Oh.

I needed to do the same, not even Hitler could make such a hideously evil face.

7863

Someone needs a drink.

[Warriorbird]

PB's comment still holds water, Sarah is a nobody.

When it reaches broadcast network national tv? I dunno.

With that said, we have Republicans

https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/432569/father-f-hrer (paywalled)
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=198401.0 (large quote of the above)

Libertarians

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-fascist-354690

Trump himself


Yahoo News asked Trump whether this level of tracking might require registering Muslims in a database or giving them a form of special identification that noted their religion. He wouldn’t rule it out.

“We’re going to have to — we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said when presented with the idea. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

Former Anti-Communist Protestor

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/11/trumps_not_hitler_hes_mussolini_how_gop_anti_intel lectualism_created_a_modern_fascist_movement_in_am erica/

A different Jew

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/13/carl_bernstein_trump_represents_new_american_fasci sm.html

Republican think tank members

https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/668447756512456705

https://twitter.com/noonanjo/status/667748577737863168

Republican talk show hosts

https://twitter.com/SteveDeaceShow/status/667762086731120641

Former Republican governors

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/jim-gilmore-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-isis/2015/11/20/id/703070/

and I'm sure it'd be rather easy to dig far deeper.

Successful George Wallace still might be more accurate. Either way, not anybody I'd ever vote for.

[GS4Pirate]

When it reaches broadcast network national tv? I dunno.

With that said, we have Republicans

https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/432569/father-f-hrer (paywalled)
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=198401.0 (large quote of the above)

Libertarians

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-fascist-354690

Trump himself



Former Anti-Communist Protestor

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/11/trumps_not_hitler_hes_mussolini_how_gop_anti_intel lectualism_created_a_modern_fascist_movement_in_am erica/

A different Jew

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/13/carl_bernstein_trump_represents_new_american_fasci sm.html

Republican think tank members

https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/668447756512456705

https://twitter.com/noonanjo/status/667748577737863168

Republican talk show hosts

https://twitter.com/SteveDeaceShow/status/667762086731120641

Former Republican governors

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/jim-gilmore-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-isis/2015/11/20/id/703070/

and I'm sure it'd be rather easy to dig far deeper.

Successful George Wallace still might be more accurate. Either way, not anybody I'd ever vote for.

What does that tell you when everyone in Washington hates this guy? My God man, if there ever was a time for the Democrats to blow up the the Republican party it's now. Half those people you listed want an Oligarchy, why do you think so many evangelicals are running away from Cruz? His supporters are the Taliban of Evangelicals, just pull up some of Deices past shows. Bashing Homosexuals and Muslims is deices meat and potatoes and he has gone completely silent since Trump voiced his position. Now why would a guy that agrees with Trumps stand on Muslims all of a sudden grow silent? Could it be he took a second mortgage out on his home to help fund Cruz in Iowa and is now all like, oh shit! ?

What you are seeing is the establishment on both sides stepping away from the fires they started, the Nationalists and the Bolsheviks are going to be blamed for all this. There is no trick they won't pull, the establishment on both sides will do anything to hold on to power. Don't take this as a threat, but we are going to see bloodshed before the election if Trump and Sanders don't get out of the way.

[Parkbandit]

Must be tough to be so bitter about your party's candidate. I'm having flashbacks to when you said nobody thought like me about Trump.


How desperate are you that you have to make up this "flashback"... or is this when you say "I wuz just kiddin! Stop taking it so seriously!"

[Warriorbird]

What does that tell you when everyone in Washington hates this guy? My God man, if there ever was a time for the Democrats to blow up the the Republican party it's now. Half those people you listed want an Oligarchy, why do you think so many evangelicals are running away from Cruz? His supporters are the Taliban of Evangelicals, just pull up some of Deices past shows. Bashing Homosexuals and Muslims is deices meat and potatoes and he has gone completely silent since Trump voiced his position. Now why would a guy that agrees with Trumps stand on Muslims all of a sudden grow silent? Could it be he took a second mortgage out on his home to help fund Cruz in Iowa and is now all like, oh shit! ?

What you are seeing is the establishment on both sides stepping away from the fires they started, the Nationalists and the Bolsheviks are going to be blamed for all this. There is no trick they won't pull, the establishment on both sides will do anything to hold on to power. Don't take this as a threat, but we are going to see bloodshed before the election if Trump and Sanders don't get out of the way.

I don't know if there'll be bloodshed or not, but I don't think your thesis is that far off regarding the establishment versus opposition.

[GS4Pirate]

I don't know if there'll be bloodshed or not, but I don't think your thesis is that far off regarding the establishment versus opposition.

But there will be, this has been done far to many times through history, unless those people get out of the way. You already have Trump supporters wanting to go crash Berny rallies now for revenge, how do you think this is going to end unless Trump and Sanders drop out ? Supporters from both sides have been propagandized for the past 15 years, 15 years of constant war, 40 years of blue collar wage stagnation, billions of dollars in retirement savings have vanished.......these people are looking for the exit signs.

[Gelston]

Sanders is going to drop out soon enough anyways. He is getting crushed.

[Warriorbird]

Sanders is going to drop out soon enough anyways. He is getting crushed.

Yeah. He got straight beaten out of the places he needed to win.

[Parkbandit]

Sanders is going to drop out soon enough anyways. He is getting crushed.

No he won't, unless he's given something. After 25 years of being a nobody, people are finally paying attention to him. He will drag this all the way to the convention.

[Gelston]

No he won't, unless he's given something. After 25 years of being a nobody, people are finally paying attention to him. He will drag this all the way to the convention.

Then he'll be forced out. Either way, Hilary won there. Be funny if he runs as an independent though.

[Parkbandit]

Then he'll be forced out.

Not sure he can be. What will happen is that Hillary will stop doing debates and he will be clamoring for more. He will speak at the convention, supporting Hillary and whatever minority she picks as her VP and then slip back into obscurity.



Either way, Hilary won there. Be funny if he runs as an independent though.

He won't do that either. He benefits from being in the caucus of the Democrat party and he won't jeopardize his standing in Congress by doing such.

Bye Bye Bernie.

[caelric]

The Bern for VP!!!

Not an unlikely scenario, Hillary offers Bernie the VP slot in order to not fragment the Dems.

[Parkbandit]

The Bern for VP!!!

Not an unlikely scenario, Hillary offers Bernie the VP slot in order to not fragment the Dems.

Never

Gonna

Happen.

She is determined to put in a minority in that slot, to "prove" how diverse Democrats are. I'm betting on a Hispanic male

[Gelston]

Never

Gonna

Happen.

She is determined to put in a minority in that slot, to "prove" how diverse Democrats are. I'm betting on a Hispanic male

He is a jew. He is a minority.

[caelric]

She's already got strong minority support, which is why the Bern is losing to her. What she is lacking is support from the far left side of the party, which is what the Bern would provide. You may be right, though, as since she is a Dem, gotta ave that token minority, placed there solely based on skin color. Ah well. Maybe someday we will be a color blind nation. Not yet, though, when people vote for someone solely because they are their own gender/race.

[caelric]

He is a jew. He is a minority.

Jews don't count, because, Zion, you know....

[Gelston]

Jews don't count, because, Zion, you know....

Oh, I forgot.. Only blacks and hispanics are allowed to be minorities.

[CrystalTears]

Heh. So either Bernie supporters don't exist here, or they're hiding. :D

[elcidcannon]

Oh, I forgot.. Only blacks and hispanics are allowed to be minorities.

+1

[Methais]

Oh, I forgot.. Only blacks and hispanics are allowed to be minorities.

Don't forget muslims. The fact that muslims aren't a race is irrelevant. You'll still be racist if you oppose them.

I predict a transgender black-hispanic gay muslim will be her running mate.

[Wrathbringer]

Don't forget muslims. The fact that muslims aren't a race is irrelevant. You'll still be racist if you oppose them.

I predict a transgender black-hispanic gay muslim will be her running mate.

I don't think Obama can run anymore, and (racist) people are generally tired of him.

[Fallen]

Heh. So either Bernie supporters don't exist here, or they're hiding. :D

I like Bernie over Clinton, but I am not going to argue that he is going to get the nomination.

[Methais]

I don't think Obama can run anymore, and (racist) people are generally tired of him.

What if....Hillary names Obama her VP? Technically I'm pretty sure he'd be eligible, since VP isn't President.

Then Obama could kill Hillary and become king omg ogm omg omg omg omgo mg moog mogm ogmo mog

[Gelston]

What if....Hillary names Obama her VP? Technically I'm pretty sure he'd be eligible, since VP isn't President.

Then Obama could kill Hillary and become king omg ogm omg omg omg omgo mg moog mogm ogmo mog

No, because Obama was born in Kenya and is an Islamic terrorist.

[Warriorbird]

What if....Hillary names Obama her VP? Technically I'm pretty sure he'd be eligible, since VP isn't President.

Then Obama could kill Hillary and become king omg ogm omg omg omg omgo mg moog mogm ogmo mog

The 22nd amendment would prevent him from actually attaining the Presidency so it'd go to the next in line. It'd be dumb to do.

[Warriorbird]

I like Bernie over Clinton, but I am not going to argue that he is going to get the nomination.

Pretty much this. I voted for Sanders in the primary.

[Gelston]

The 22nd amendment would prevent him from actually attaining the Presidency so it'd go to the next in line. It'd be dumb to do.

Well, not necessarily. I imagine they'd allow him to serve 2 years with an early election if that 2 years ended before the original term did.

Actually, upon further reading, he can totally be Vice President... and serve the remainder of a full term. This only covers being elected to President. He wouldn't be elected to President.

[Gelston]

It is a hole they left open, probably because they'd never expect a person to be a Vice President after 2 full terms as President.

Hell, Hilary could push for Bill Clinton to be Vice President, then resign after day one, and we could have Bill Clinton for a full term.

[Parkbandit]

She's already got strong minority support, which is why the Bern is losing to her. What she is lacking is support from the far left side of the party, which is what the Bern would provide. You may be right, though, as since she is a Dem, gotta ave that token minority, placed there solely based on skin color. Ah well. Maybe someday we will be a color blind nation. Not yet, though, when people vote for someone solely because they are their own gender/race.

Hillary's entire platform is "I'm a woman, so vote for me!".. so her selecting a minority to be her VP is almost guaranteed.

[CrystalTears]

Hillary's entire platform is "I'm a woman, so vote for me!".. so her selecting a minority to be her VP is almost guaranteed.
I still question her being a woman.

[Methais]

I still question her being a woman.

I used to until she started queefing toxic waste.

[CrystalTears]

I used to until she started queefing toxic waste.
Ugh I hate you so much right now. LOL

[drauz]

I used to until she started queefing toxic waste.

http://southpark.cc.com/clips/155547/inside-the-snizz

[drauz]

Interesting to watch


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piwaBO6U43U

[Latrinsorm]

Honestly, the biggest hurdle one faces when trying to produce wealth (legally) is government. I'm actually turning away work right now because I'm worried about my taxes next year, it's fucking stupid.Do you believe there is a scenario where your working more would result in less income?
But there will be, this has been done far to many times through history, unless those people get out of the way. You already have Trump supporters wanting to go crash Berny rallies now for revenge, how do you think this is going to end unless Trump and Sanders drop out ? Supporters from both sides have been propagandized for the past 15 years, 15 years of constant war, 40 years of blue collar wage stagnation, billions of dollars in retirement savings have vanished.......these people are looking for the exit signs.Do you have specific examples in mind?