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ClydeR
01-14-2016, 11:40 AM
In her well researched column, which explains it better than anything else I've read, Coulter says it's the difference between being a "naturalized" citizen and an "natural born" citizen.



A child born to American parents outside of U.S. territory may be a citizen the moment he is born -- but only by "naturalization," i.e., by laws passed by Congress. If Congress has to write a law to make you a citizen, you're not "natural born."

Because Cruz's citizenship comes from the law, not the Constitution, as late as 1934, he would not have had "any conceivable claim to United States citizenship. For more than a century and a half, no statute was of assistance. Maternal citizenship afforded no benefit" -- as the Supreme Court put it in Rogers v. Bellei (1971).

That would make no sense if Cruz were a "natural born citizen" under the Constitution. But as the Bellei Court said: "Persons not born in the United States acquire citizenship by birth only as provided by Acts of Congress." (There's an exception for the children of ambassadors, but Cruz wasn't that.)

So Cruz was born a citizen -- under our naturalization laws -- but is not a "natural born citizen" -- under our Constitution.

More... (http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2016/01/13/were-all-ruth-bader-ginsburg-now-n2104198/page/2)

Shaps
01-14-2016, 12:11 PM
So everyone is cool with a Muslim born Kenyan, who just happened to be geographically born in a US state.

But are not cool with a Christian born Cuban, who just happened to be geographically born in Canada.

Bunch of fucking racist, anti-Christian zealots! Why you all hate Cubans so much?? Xenophobes.

Parkbandit
01-14-2016, 12:16 PM
So everyone is cool with a Muslim born Kenyan, who just happened to be geographically born in a US state.

But are not cool with a Christian born Cuban, who just happened to be geographically born in Canada.

Bunch of fucking racist, anti-Christian zealots! Why you all hate Cubans so much?? Xenophobes.

lol

ClydeR
01-14-2016, 08:01 PM
Donald Trump‘s contention that Sen. Ted Cruz isn’t eligible to be president because his Republican rival was born in Canada has stirred a spirited debate among legal scholars.

A few weeks ago most legal commentary on the subject overwhelmingly sided with Mr. Cruz, who says there’s no doubt about his eligibility.

While the balance of scholarly opinion favors Mr. Cruz, a number of legal authorities have weighed in with skepticism in recent days, including a few who have deeply researched the question and say Mr. Trump is actually right.

More... (http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/01/13/the-cruz-eligibility-question-legal-scholars-weigh-in/)

The argument is gathering steam.

ClydeR
01-16-2016, 08:08 PM
http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/rmi08a/trump-cruz-arii_tweet_zpsrgglhqrc.jpg
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/688324874604023808 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/688324874604023808)


Begun, the lawsuits have. It probably won't be decided by the Supreme Court until shortly before the election in November.

Jarvan
01-17-2016, 12:17 AM
This is why I continue to say that Donald is a plant by the Dems.

Candor
01-18-2016, 04:12 AM
http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/rmi08a/trump-cruz-arii_tweet_zpsrgglhqrc.jpg
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/688324874604023808 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/688324874604023808)


Begun, the lawsuits have. It probably won't be decided by the Supreme Court until shortly before the election in November.

He was a *dual* citizen until 15 months ago.

There is no issue here. Cruz is a natural born American citizen by being born to an American mother and having her citizenship at birth.