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    Default Immigration bill fails key test, is withdrawn.

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/....ap/index.html

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- A broad immigration bill to legalize millions of people unlawfully in the United States failed a crucial test vote in the Senate Thursday, a stunning setback that could spell its defeat for the year.

    The vote was 45-50 against limiting debate on the bill, 15 short of the 60 that the bill's supporters needed to prevail. Most Republicans voted to block Democrats' efforts to bring the bill to a final vote.

    The legislation, which had been endorsed by President Bush, would tighten borders, institute a new system to prevent employers from hiring undocumented workers and give as many as 12 million illegal immigrants a pathway to legal status.

    Senate Majority Harry Reid, D-Nevada, who had made no secret of his distaste for parts of the bill, said he would withdraw it but keep working toward eventual passage.

    "I, even though disappointed, look forward to passing this bill," Reid said. But he said he needs help from the White House.

    "This is the president's bill," Reid said. "... We can't do it alone over here. We need some help."

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, urged Reid not to give up on the legislation, but allow debate on amendments to continue in order to resolve the objections of conservative senators.

    "This is a complicated bill, but the key to passage is not complicated," McConnell said.

    McConnell said all that's needed is a "reasonable number of additional roll-call votes" on amendments.

    "We're not that far away from being able to get cloture on the bill," he said.

    Conceived by an improbable coalition that nicknamed the deal a "grand bargain," the measure exposed deep rifts within both parties and is loathed by most GOP conservatives.

    Most Republicans voted against ending debate, saying they needed more time to make the bill tougher with tighter border security measures and a more arduous legalization process for unlawful immigrants.

    All but a handful of Democrats supported the move, but they, too, were holding their noses at provisions of the bill. Many of them argued it makes second-class citizens of a new crop of temporary workers and rips apart families by prioritizing employability over blood ties in future immigration.

    Still, they had argued that the measure, on balance, was worth advancing.

    "We can all find different aspects of this legislation that we differ with," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the leading Democratic architect of the bill.

    ..the rest of the story is available at the above link.


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    Good. It was a shitty bill that rewarded those of other countries to get away with breaking our laws with very little consequences.

    Now.. do it the right way.

    Secure our borders
    Secure our borders

    and

    Secure our borders


    THEN we can address the millions of illegal aliens in this country. Immigration reform can't be reformed until we reform the problem.. porous border control
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    I am glad it didn't pass. It was basically just an amnesty bill without saying it.

    I'm all for bring me your tired and your poor, but do it legally. That's all.

    You can't come here legally and do it the right way, then you get to go home, end of story. There are plenty of people who are waiting to do it the right way.

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    Personally I think if both Republicans AND Democrats are criticizing the bill it can't be that bad.

    I get more nervous when either party thinks a bill is the best thing since sliced bread.

    When it comes to our policies on border security and illegal residents I DO feel a comprehensive solution is necessary:

    Option A

    1) Increased northern and southern border security.
    2) Stricter controls on hiring practices
    3) Stricter penalties for employers that use illegal labor
    4) More arduous legalization process for illegals caught here
    5) A temporary amnesty for illegals prior to implementing stricter controls
    6) A greater commitment to deporting illegals

    Option B

    Two REALLY big minefields supported by automated motion-targeting rifles.

    I don't mind open immigration. I personally believe there is still plenty of room (and work) here; but immigration needs to be supervised and orderly- lawful. This bill leaves much to be desired but it does offer a better response to the problem than I've seen in a decade.

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    Its not popular, but I don’t care what you call it... I’d rather grant a “pardon” to all the Libbites already here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clove View Post

    6) A greater commitment to deporting illegals
    You would be sickened to know how many illegals are arrested (theft, usually), brought to the station, and released on a daily basis without the INS ever being contacted. They are "too busy" to come down for the daily illegals.
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    Actually, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be sickened by that.

    Today, in court, looking at the evidence photos of a stab victim from a 10 inch knife....that was *almost* sickening.

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    La di fucking da, you want a cookie? Talk to me when you see a close range shotgun fatality. Was there a point in saying you wouldn't be sickened by what I said, or did you just want to interject your stupid little story?
    Originally posted by Wezas

    You're damn right. I'm fugly looking and I'm not going to subject you people to it.

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    I guess I don't measure up to your standards. :P I was merely saying, your "sickening" story wasn't sickening at all.

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