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    Default gem-eating armor script

    Are these all the possible gem options for gem-eating armor?


    If you know about any others, can you post on to this list? Thx


    Diamonds - VHCP
    Uncut Ruby - VHDP
    Black opal - impact resistance
    Blue Moonstone - vaccum resistance
    Fire Pearl - puncture protection
    a deep blue mermaid's tear sapphire - crush resistance
    orange imperial topaz - fire resistance
    emerald - slash resistance
    rainbow quartz - lightning resistance
    a chunk of pale blue ice stone - vacuum resistance


    Here is what the analyze reports:
    The creator has also provided the following information:
    A variety of gems will add up to 15 different abilities to use with this armor. Some gems will shatter as they cannot be used, while other gems may tell you they need to have a higher value to be able to work.

    The command is PUSH "NOUN" of the armor to mount a gem in the setting.



    I read that resistance level was between 40-60 points. I haven't tested yet.
    Last edited by gilchristr; 12-27-2019 at 08:48 PM.
    I accepted free spells during an "automated third party promotion" from "the responsible party," but I only did it once, and I didn't hunt until after they wore off

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    This script is bugged. Tonight I put in a high value black opal, then immediately went hunting (I mean this occurred about 3 minutes after I inserted the black opal). Shattered on the first hit (which was crush damage, not impact damage, anyway).

    A storm giant swings a morning star at you!
    AS: +247 vs DS: +253 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +96 = +122
    ... and hits for 8 points of damage!
    Broken finger on your right hand!
    A black opal's set into some gem-encrusted double leathers chest piece glows brightly then suddenly shatters!



    Also, in a separate incident earlier today, I had a bard wearing the armor. Bard purified a gem, which exploded, and the armor should have resisted since a purifying gem explosion is impact damage (and all my other resist armor does show a message on a gem explosion). No activation, even though the armor was set on impact resist.


    Any suggestions on how to get this fixed? Bug item, or report?
    I accepted free spells during an "automated third party promotion" from "the responsible party," but I only did it once, and I didn't hunt until after they wore off

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    Well I put another black opal in the armor, and this time things worked:

    Some gem-encrusted double leathers partially deflects the onslaught of the impact attack.
    ... 20 points of damage!
    Good blow to your left leg!
    You are stunned for 3 rounds!
    Roundtime: 5 sec.
    I accepted free spells during an "automated third party promotion" from "the responsible party," but I only did it once, and I didn't hunt until after they wore off

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    I replied to your officials thread, but not sure if you'll see it any time soon. Good news though, Wyrom said today this script is getting rebuilt in response to a post of mine on it. I own the chain set from the auction and am looking forward to what results. Its a great idea but never seemed to work right even after Wyrom worked on it a few years back.

    "There is a GM working on it. It was a complete rebuild. These can be some of the hardest projects to take on. I'll see if the GM who is working on it can post about it." Wyrom

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    A complete rebuild huh, sounds like something a mechanic would say. Thanks for cross posting this!
    Last edited by gilchristr; 03-26-2021 at 02:04 AM.
    I accepted free spells during an "automated third party promotion" from "the responsible party," but I only did it once, and I didn't hunt until after they wore off

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    NP, its something I've been keeping up with since the auction in the hopes it would get ironed out. Wyrom posted another tidbit which also sounds interesting:

    "I think the armor is going to be a lot better with the rework. Unfortunately, the original concept was created by a GM who left us shortly after it was created, and it ended up being riddled with bugs. But I promise it's getting some godly treatment."

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    An update on the officials if anyone else is interested in this armor script. I think its pretty neat. Resistances are 40-60% based on gem value (with the current/old script anyway) and the padding is 12 CER. I have a black pearl in my chain set and it sings as 49% puncture resistance, so not bad. The bad news is its currently set as Magic Resistant, my feedback was to remove that tag so it could at least be enchanted and ensorcelled. The current item enhancement paradigm means that level of restrictive balancing just isn't needed. The script also blocks at least Cat C padding since it can create its own, but it might be able to take some other Cat C enhancements (I've asked for clarification in the thread). It can also take Cat B enhancements. So if just Cat A is opened up by removing the magic resistance I'll be happy.

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    Gem-eater Armor Status - update

    For those patiently waiting on the Gem-eater Armor Re-write to happen, it is nearing completion.

    I accepted the Gem-eater Armor script rewrite because I was confident that my experience with the Gem-eater Runestaff script would be directly applicable. The only downside was that initially, you needed to be holding the armor in your right hand and have about ten ranks of magical skills per level in order for the armor to work.

    Of course, the rewrite effort has been more involved than originally anticipated, but the unresolved issues are now down to two and are being worked on as a top priority.

    Some facts about the present incarnation of the rewritten script (some are original, some are changes):

    1. The script was and is built to only differentiate based on a gem's noun. This was done to eliminate a level of complexity and significantly reduce conditional logic.

    2. A gem can be inserted into the armor's socket when the armor is either worn or held.

    3. An unwanted gem in the armor can be PULLed to shatter the gem and empty the socket for another gem to be inserted.
    (Thank you for posting this suggestion. We do read the forum posts.)

    4. A gem with a value less than 100 silvers will effectively be valued as a 100-silvers gem by the armor, ie. it will fit into the setting and will provide four hits/charges of resistance or 100 sec. of resistance duration, whichever occurs first. So more gems are usable, but the lower-end gems are only very marginally useful, ie. 100 seconds of duration ain't hardly nothin'.

    5. Gem types that don't work with the armor will simply not fit into the setting. They won't shatter if they're not usable.

    6. At present the script retains its "gem-value = seconds of resistance duration" limiter. Whether this aspect will be retained in the final version isn't set in stone yet, but the code is complete and is working, so if this changes it will be simple to remove. However, retaining it may be deemed necessary for game/item balance reasons.

    7. The suggestion of retaining the duration timer but removing the (value = charges) aspect is counter-intuitive enough to me that I don't see it happening. For gems to provide runestaves with a variable number of flares based on value, but when set in armor they provide a resistance regardless of the number of flares (or strikes) blocked seems gratuitously inconsistent.

    Additionally, I am interested in your input with regard to the assignment of which gem(s) provide which resistance within the script. I don't presume that the present assignments are the "best" possible, but maybe they are, so here's your chance to weigh in on the topic. Please keep in mind that any gem designated to support one type of resistance cannot be used to support any other type of resistance. That should be obvious, but sometimes it's helpful to state every qualifier.

    The current list of gem types that are acceptable for use in any gem-eater armor are as follows:

    Ruby Damage padding
    Diamond Critical padding
    Pearl Puncture resistance
    Sapphire Crush resistance
    Gem & Coral Nature resistance
    Emerald Slash resistance
    Opal Impact resistance
    Agate Disintegrate resistance
    Wraithaline Disruption resistance
    Sunstone, Moonstone, StoneVacuum resistance
    Bloodstone, Firestone Vacuum resistance
    Beryl & Topaz Heat resistance
    Jade & Rhimar-bloom Cold resistance
    Quartz Electrical resistance
    Smoldereye Steam resistance
    Saewhena Plasma resistance
    Garnet & Dreamstone Balance resistance
    Tourmaline, Onyx, & SoulstoneGrapple resistance
    Amethyst & Peridot Acid resistance


    I realize that current owners of existing gem-eater armors may potentially be negatively impacted by a change to which gem type provides which resistance type, but I am guessing that the potential for improvement is also significant. If, however, the current assignments are regarded as optimal, please comment to that effect. Now is the time to tweak, before the rewrite reaches its conclusion.

    Thanks,
    - Mikos
    Last edited by Aluvius; 04-02-2021 at 02:51 PM.

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    "The script also blocks at least Cat C padding since it can create its own, but it might be able to take some other Cat C enhancements"

    Well voln armor creates its own padding, and voln armor doesn't block Cat C. Voln armor script only uses up category D, and with only that category they can have phantom padding stack onto whatever base padding you have on the armor.
    I accepted free spells during an "automated third party promotion" from "the responsible party," but I only did it once, and I didn't hunt until after they wore off

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    That's a good point, although there's probably a difference in that the script actually fills that slot at the point you put the gem into the armor and the voln script only creates the padding during the attack resolution calculations.

    Meaning you can sing and assess the padding on the armor when you have a diamond or ruby in it. I think that's the difference, probably like other scripts that create flares in the Cat B slot and block flare adding, ie Ironwright or GEF.

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    I know its a good point, the opportunity cost of blocking everything else out is way too high. Currently I can't even add ranger resistance to gem-eating armor. Thats a huge opportunity cost, especially since ranger resist will be permanent reistance soon.


    "So if just Cat A is opened up by removing the magic resistance I'll be happy."

    You should re-think that. I posted on the officials, if thats how this armor is going to be, then it should support using 3 different gems all at once.
    Last edited by gilchristr; 04-03-2021 at 09:02 PM.
    I accepted free spells during an "automated third party promotion" from "the responsible party," but I only did it once, and I didn't hunt until after they wore off

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