Things that made you laugh today (Political Version)

[Shaps]

Actually, it was natural gas that contributed the greatest shortages in power generation.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02...s-power-storm/

Most of the losses the north of TX experienced in wind power generation due to freezing was replaced by increased generation in coastal areas.

Sure, reduced wind and solar ultimately didn't help, but the majority of the problem was companies here not wanting to winterize their natural gas equipment for a 1 in 3 year freeze, because profits.

Thanks for the link so I could read up on it.

I get what they're saying, and I'm no math major so hopefully you can help me understand because something seems wonky once you get into the details. I get that multiple system failures occurred.

They say 80% of the capacity from gas/coal/nuclear = 67gigs.
They then say 7% from wind = 6 gigs.

IF 80% of the predicted energy needed for weather like this = 67gigs THEN another 16-17gig is needed to = 100% total energy = 83-84gigs total.
67gig (80% gas) + 6gigs (7% wind) = 73gigs total
So where's the other 10gigs?

In the next paragraph they then say: 16gig of renewable (wind) is offline and 30gig of thermal (gas) is offline.
16gig - 6gig (wind) = the missing 10gigs.

So they're literally fudging the numbers right in the same article. I'm not saying gas systems didn't mess up, but how they're presenting it is messed up because:

83-84 gig TOTAL needed:
----------------------------
+67gig (gas) (80%)
+16gig (wind) (20%)
=83-84gig total (100%)
------------------
-30gig offline (gas)
-16gig offline (wind)
----------------
36-37gig currently running

Meaning - the 16gig of renewable is 100% offline. Not the 7% like they said. More like 20% of the grid.

So again - gas fucked up, but they're straight lying about the numbers and %s of renewables.

I fucking hate how politics get into everything.

Please correct me if my math is off, I'm not Rain Man.

Edit: I reread the article trying to see if I'm missing something obvious. Nothing jumped out. Open to clarification if I'm totally off here.

[Blazar]

The 6% is what they forecasted in November would come from renewables when they projected a sever weather event, not what is actually produced. It's more of an incomplete data scenario than anything else, and I'm not invested enough to pull up all the data for you. Roughly half of Texas' power comes from natural gas though, and that was the huge failure.

Stuff like this was the problem:
https://twitter.com/KHOULauren/statu...outages-frozen

[Back]

Thanks for the link so I could read up on it.

I get what they're saying, and I'm no math major so hopefully you can help me understand because something seems wonky once you get into the details. I get that multiple system failures occurred.

They say 80% of the capacity from gas/coal/nuclear = 67gigs.
They then say 7% from wind = 6 gigs.

IF 80% of the predicted energy needed for weather like this = 67gigs THEN another 16-17gig is needed to = 100% total energy = 83-84gigs total.
67gig (80% gas) + 6gigs (7% wind) = 73gigs total
So where's the other 10gigs?

In the next paragraph they then say: 16gig of renewable (wind) is offline and 30gig of thermal (gas) is offline.
16gig - 6gig (wind) = the missing 10gigs.

So they're literally fudging the numbers right in the same article. I'm not saying gas systems didn't mess up, but how they're presenting it is messed up because:

83-84 gig TOTAL needed:
----------------------------
+67gig (gas) (80%)
+16gig (wind) (20%)
=83-84gig total (100% needed)
------------------
-30gig offline (gas)
-16gig offline (wind)
----------------
36-37gig currently running

Meaning - the 16gig of renewable is 100% offline. Not the 7% like they said. More like 20% of the grid.

So again - gas fucked up, but they're straight lying about the numbers and %s of renewables.

I fucking hate how politics get into everything.

Please correct me if my math is off, I'm not Rain Man.

Another link from the Texas Tribune.

“Texas is a gas state,” said Michael Webber, an energy resources professor at the University of Texas at Austin.

While Webber said all of Texas’ energy sources share blame for the power crisis, the natural gas industry is most notably producing significantly less power than normal.


“Gas is failing in the most spectacular fashion right now,” Webber said.

Like the man said, Texas is a gas state, an old oil state. Generations of oil men have been bred to lie about the dangers of their product while disparaging every other kind of power. Its in their genes.

[Shaps]

The 6% is what they forecasted in November would come from renewables when they projected a sever weather event, not what is actually produced. It's more of an incomplete data scenario than anything else, and I'm not invested enough to pull up all the data for you. Roughly half of Texas' power comes from natural gas though, and that was the huge failure.

Stuff like this was the problem:
https://twitter.com/KHOULauren/statu...outages-frozen

I'm not disputing the gas issues. But if the numbers that they presented are correct - then 16gigs (renewables) of their power grid is down which equals 20% of the total grid.

That means 80% of the grid is gas (again their numbers) and of that 80% total - about 50% isn't working properly.

Short story (if numbers add up):

Gas working at 50%
Renewables working at 0%

[Shaps]

Another link from the Texas Tribune.



Like the man said, Texas is a gas state, an old oil state. Generations of oil men have been bred to lie about the dangers of their product while disparaging every other kind of power. Its in their genes.

Do the math then get back to me. I don't listen to talking heads. I look at data and try to understand it.

If you have a problem with gas, stop driving or using any devices in your house.

[caelric]

Like the man said, Texas is a gas state, an old oil state. Generations of oil men have been bred to lie about the dangers of their product while disparaging every other kind of power. Its in their genes.

That neither proves nor disproves anything Shaps said in his post. In fact, it contributed absolutely nothing to the conversation. Which is actually pretty normal for you. Do you actually contribute anything at all to the world?

[Parkbandit]

It is pretty common for public servants to not serve the public. So Fled Cruz leaving his constituents to take a vacation in Mexico is not shocking at all.

But this fucking douchebag left the family dog at home in their house without electricity for what was originally intended to be a 5 day trip.

I feel bad leaving my dog alone in a warm house with food and water for 5 hours. Usually I'll turn on the radio so he has some company at least.

I cannot imagine the subhuman morals required to leave your dog for 5 fucking days.

You literally should be the last person to talk about morals.

Ever.

[Parkbandit]

Do the math then get back to me. I don't listen to talking heads. I look at data and try to understand it.

If you have a problem with gas, stop driving or using any devices in your house.

HOW DARE YOU!!?? How else is Backlash going to virtue signal what a woke cis-gender-fluid-binary-individual he is??!?!?!???

[Methais]

That neither proves nor disproves anything Shaps said in his post. In fact, it contributed absolutely nothing to the conversation. Which is actually pretty normal for you. Do you actually contribute anything at all to the world?

When Back isn't virtue signaling, he just lies about whatever and then tries to deflect being called out on it after.

Watch...


Hey Backlash, remember when you said you owned a restaurant? Was that a lie?

[Back]

When Back isn't virtue signaling, he just lies about whatever and then tries to deflect being called out on it after.

Watch...

Hey Backlash, remember when you said you owned a restaurant? Was that a lie?

Why don't you quit being a lazy creepy fuck and look it up yourself? Yeesh.

Besides, 90% of my posts are made when I was drunk so who knows what you'll find.