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TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 09:43 AM
Winter 1906 builds/disbands:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/alokpinto/GSPlayersCorner-F1906B-1.jpg

Winter 1906 Resolved Map:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/alokpinto/GSPlayersCorner-S1907M.jpg

New Schedule:
Week of Sunday, June 17th (midday = 1 pm EST, evening = 11:59 pm EST)
(6/17) Sunday evening: Spring 1907 moves due
(6/18) Monday evening: Retreats due
(6/19) Tuesday evening: Fall 1907 moves due
(6/20) Wednesday midday: Retreats due
evening: Builds/disbands due
(6/21) Thursday evening: Spring 1908 moves due
(6/22) Friday evening: Retreats due
(6/23) Saturday: OFF

Week of Sunday, June 10th (midday = 1 pm EST, evening = 11:59 pm EST)
(6/24) Sunday evening: Fall 1908 moves due
(6/25) Monday midday: Retreats due
evening: Builds/Disbands due
(6/26) Tuesday evening: Spring 1909 moves due
(6/27) Wednesday evening: Retreats due
(6/28) Thursday evening: Fall 1909 moves due
(6/29) Friday midday: Retreats due
evening: Builds/Disbands due
(6/30) Saturday: OFF

Spring 1907 moves due by tonight at 11:59 pm.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 09:50 AM
I've gotten interest from Artha about starting a new game.

I'd be GMing. I'd go with pretty standard rules: start Spring 1901, first build after Fall 1901. No pass-through control (you actually have to be holding a territory in the fall to gain control of a supply center).

My orders would be in the following format:

A Bud H or A Bud Hold
A Bud-Vie
A Bud S A Tri
A Bud S A Tri-Ser

Note: for foreign support, I would not require the country name - hopefully you realize you're supporting a foreign country.

The full rules are at: http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf.

If anyone wants in, let me know. Once we get 8 players, we'll start. I'll build a schedule after that.

Edited to add: If they can handle it, I don't mind players from the other game jumping in. They'll be the ones who have to keep their negotiations straight.

Current players:
Artha: Russia
Nien: Austria-Hungary
Atlanteax: England
Stunseed: Turkey
Sean2: France
Backlash: Italy
Izalude: Germany

Xandalf
05-02-2007, 09:51 AM
Count me in.

crazymage
05-02-2007, 10:10 AM
Wish you waited till the other one was done, just because you got knocked out early doesnt mean everyone did...

TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 10:11 AM
The other one might take months to finish.

Hulkein
05-02-2007, 10:13 AM
Ukraine's weak, it's a sitting duck!

Back
05-02-2007, 10:21 AM
Iíd play but Iím not even going to try splitting my time on top of trying to work.

Nieninque
05-02-2007, 10:45 AM
I'll play

Xandalf
05-02-2007, 10:47 AM
Wish you waited till the other one was done, just because you got knocked out early doesnt mean everyone did...

I agree, that's why the winner of the game usually GMs the next game.

TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 10:49 AM
Like I said before - that's well and fine if you're playing over the course of a weekend, live. When it take a week to do a whole year - and we've done 6 years (12 turns) in a month an a half....that's too long.

-TheE-

Back
05-02-2007, 10:50 AM
Well I'm sure he can get enough players so who really cares?

What about the Fall 06 results of our game???


I agree, that's why the winner of the game usually GMs the next game.

Nieninque
05-02-2007, 10:53 AM
I agree, that's why the winner of the game usually GMs the next game.

They still can

I'm sure we can get two games running at the same time.

crazymage
05-02-2007, 12:07 PM
I agree, that's why the winner of the game usually GMs the next game.

Well Sean2 and I will be winning, but probably wouldnt want to GM anyway.

:)

Sean of the Thread
05-02-2007, 12:10 PM
Well I'm in favor of speeding up the turns of our current and next game if at all possible.

We're playing our current game at the speed I used to play via BBS back in the day.

TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 05:35 PM
So...I know some of our Diplomacy n00bs want to jump in.

(ha, like I'm an expert).

-TheE-

Sean of the Thread
05-02-2007, 05:40 PM
Speedy turns!

TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 05:55 PM
I can do speedy turns, if y'all can do speedy turns. You should know I'm pretty much connected at the hip to my computer. :P

-TheE-

Artha
05-02-2007, 05:58 PM
I'm definitely down for < 1 week between turns. Maybe two or three days. Maybe one.

TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 06:17 PM
I think my schedule willl go like this:

Day 1: Spring moves due
Day 2: Spring retreats due
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Fall moves due
Day 5: Fall Retreats due
Day 6: Fall builds/disbands due
Day 7: Off

I think keeping on a 7 day schedule is good, so the major landmarks (Spring/Fall moves) are on the same day. If we want, we can move to a more compact schedule like this:

Day 1: Move due
Day 2 midday: Retreats due
Day 2 evening: Disbands/Builds due by late evening.
Day 3: Move due
Day 4 midday: Retreats due
Day 4 evening: Disbands/Builds due by late evening.
Day 5: Move due
Day 6 midday: Retreats due
Day 6 midday: Builds/Disbands due
Day 7: off

If it's a Spring move due, obviously, disbands/builds are not necessary, but I'd like to keep the Retreats at midday so people can have a day and a half for the next move. The reason I don't like this schedule is because Diplomacy goes pretty much on a two move system (Spring/Fall) and to have 3 moves a week leaves the move days alternating between the two (IE, one week, Day 1 will be Spring, the next it'll be Fall of the next year). Plus, if Fall moves are due on Days 1 and 5, the retreat/build/disband process will be a little hairy to all get in. Not all of us are attached to our computers like I am.

If anyone has any alternate suggestions for a schedule, let me know.

-TheE-

Nieninque
05-02-2007, 06:21 PM
I can do speedy turns, if y'all can do speedy turns. You should know I'm pretty much connected at the hip to my computer. :P

-TheE-

It's a shame that you couldnt have been attached to your computer when you FORGOT TO SEND IN YOUR ORDERS AND SCREWED ME OVER in the last game.

TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 06:26 PM
<coughs>

Won't happen again. Class is ending for the year, no need to self-medicate myself with alcohol.

-TheE-

Latrinsorm
05-02-2007, 06:35 PM
I'm almost tempted to join just to provoke further hilarious responses like that one from Nien (whom I adore!).

Sean of the Thread
05-02-2007, 06:51 PM
Everybody had a fuck up like that in the current game except backlash I think. NO EXCUSES!

That being said as long as YOU (TheE.. who I've yet to come up with a name for yet) can handle speedy turns fuck the people that can't. It's those that can that matter.

If we do a speedy schedule I'm down. If I miss a speedy move so be it.. but thats the game I'm looking for.

Artha
05-02-2007, 07:25 PM
If I miss a speedy move so be it..

It's more interesting this way too.

I like way #1 best.

Back
05-02-2007, 07:28 PM
It still one year a week though.

TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 07:31 PM
Yes, it is still one year a week.

Back
05-02-2007, 08:24 PM
You could go...

Monday night: Spring moves due.
Tuesday night: Retreats/Disbands, Fall moves due.
Wednesday night: Retreats/Disbands, Builds due.
Thursday night: Spring moves due.
Friday night: Retreats/Disbands, Fall moves due.
Saturday night: Retreats/Disbands, Builds due.
Sunday: Off.

You'd have to post results by an early AM time (10am?) and accept moves by a late PM time (11pm? Midnight?).

TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 08:32 PM
4 moves in a week would be awesome if we could pull it off.

Having retreats/disbands AND moves due on the same day might be crazy - someone may want to make a move based on retreats/disbands. Maybe if we could have a 12 PMish deadline on retreats/disbands? It would require dedication on the part of players. Otherwise players would have to anticipate their moves with expected retreats/disbands.

-TheE-

Artha
05-02-2007, 08:38 PM
Fuck...I'm lucky to be awake by noon some days.

College - fuck yeah.

Nieninque
05-02-2007, 08:48 PM
4 moves in a week would be awesome if we could pull it off.

Having retreats/disbands AND moves due on the same day might be crazy - someone may want to make a move based on retreats/disbands. Maybe if we could have a 12 PMish deadline on retreats/disbands? It would require dedication on the part of players. Otherwise players would have to anticipate their moves with expected retreats/disbands.

-TheE-

There is no way in the world that you would be able to keep updats up to date.

TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 08:55 PM
In retrospect, I think that's probably true. I think we might have to stick with a 2 move week, with set deadlines on everything.

-TheE-

Back
05-02-2007, 08:55 PM
Its really hard to get around the year/week thing. Unless you do Spring, Fall, Spring one week, Fall, Spring, Fall the next.

TheEschaton
05-02-2007, 08:56 PM
On a two week cycle?

Back
05-02-2007, 08:57 PM
Other than that you may need to go into 3-4 hour AIM sessions.

Atlanteax
05-03-2007, 09:22 AM
I'll play if there's still room.

Xandalf
05-03-2007, 09:51 AM
Count me out, actually.

I'm going on a 7 week vacation, leaving June 3. We won't be finished by then.

TheEschaton
05-03-2007, 10:58 AM
With three players, we're still looking for 5 more.

Xandalf
05-03-2007, 11:13 AM
With three players, we're still looking for 5 more.

Eight countries?

Am I missing something here?

Celephais
05-03-2007, 11:23 AM
Eight countries?

Am I missing something here?

I think he might be counting the GM as a player...

TheEschaton
05-03-2007, 11:45 AM
Err, 4 more people, yes, i'm insane.

Back
05-03-2007, 11:45 AM
I knew Atlanta would play. Sorry I'm passing on this one.

Surprised more people haven't jumped in by now.

Stunseed
05-04-2007, 04:21 AM
I'll toss my bid in, as well. Seems like a fun game.

TheEschaton
05-04-2007, 11:22 AM
Bump, three more players needed.

I've decided to go with the two week cycle, 3 moves due each week. 6 turns (ie, 3 years) every two weeks.

-TheE-

Nieninque
05-04-2007, 11:24 AM
you better be sharp with the updates then

TheEschaton
05-04-2007, 11:35 AM
No worries.

Keller
05-04-2007, 11:44 AM
I would play but I'll be incommunicado all next week starting tomorrow.

Yay for post-finals vacations.

Nieninque
05-04-2007, 12:02 PM
you hardly played last time.

Sean of the Thread
05-04-2007, 12:13 PM
Burnt.

Sean of the Thread
05-04-2007, 12:15 PM
Stunseed
Badtie
Sean2
Artha
Nien

I count 5 so far.

Nieninque
05-04-2007, 12:34 PM
ROFL@Badtie

TheEschaton
05-04-2007, 01:02 PM
I didn't realize you were in, Sean.

2 more players.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-05-2007, 01:05 PM
Bump - still looking for two more players.

Back
05-09-2007, 08:33 AM
Ok, Iím busy as hell right now but fuck it. Count me in.

One more player people!

Gan, Miss X, Stray, Bob, Kranar, CT, Dan, anyone step up!

If two more want in, Iíll step out.

Daniel
05-09-2007, 08:47 AM
NM. I thought you said I had joined. I was like WTF. I got wayyy too much shit going on right now.

TheEschaton
05-14-2007, 12:53 PM
Bump. hopefully all the other players are still in.

and hopefully, now that the other game is also almost over, we can find these last two players.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-14-2007, 12:54 PM
Err, one more, I missed Backlash joining in

Hips
05-14-2007, 03:33 PM
My Austro-Hungarian ancestors demand that whoever gets Austria this time better win. :D

Izalude
05-14-2007, 03:45 PM
What the hell... I'm in.

Sean of the Thread
05-14-2007, 03:54 PM
Super game on.

Time for contact information.

Blackbelushi@yahoo.com

Aim: Blackbelushi

Izalude
05-14-2007, 04:15 PM
kronan210@hotmail.com
Aim: Kryjeck12

TheEschaton
05-14-2007, 04:15 PM
Suhweet. I'll throw together a PM to everyone right now.

Back
05-14-2007, 04:25 PM
If someone wants my spot you better speak up before the game starts!

Parkbandit
05-14-2007, 04:26 PM
If I knew what the fuck you guys were doing, I'd play.

TheEschaton
05-14-2007, 04:27 PM
It's a strategy game, like Risk. The rules can be found here:

http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf

Parkbandit
05-14-2007, 04:34 PM
How do you keep track of it all? Is there a virtual board somewhere you can look at or is it up to each individual player to maintain his/her own?

TheEschaton
05-14-2007, 04:37 PM
There's a program where you can keep track of it on your own, but what was done in the other game is that Xandalf would post a map in the first page and continually update it. And he would post moves every turn from every person in the thread itself.

-TheE-

Back
05-14-2007, 04:44 PM
For example...

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=23947

TheEschaton
05-14-2007, 05:08 PM
Still waiting for Nein and Stunseed's info (I know your info, Nein, just want to confirm you're still in).

-TheE-

Nieninque
05-14-2007, 05:11 PM
Still waiting for Nein and Stunseed's info (I know your info, Nein, just want to confirm you're still in).

-TheE-

...

TheEschaton
05-14-2007, 05:17 PM
Alright, then just waiting for Deesnuts.

-TheE-

Stunseed
05-14-2007, 06:54 PM
It's on.

TheEschaton
05-14-2007, 11:16 PM
Artha: Russia
Atlanteax: England
Backlash: Italy
Izalude: Germany
Nieninque: Austria-Hungary
Sean2: France
Stunseed: Turkey

First moves due Sunday, May 20th, at 10 pm EST. Starting Map posted in first post.

-TheE-

Back
05-15-2007, 07:35 AM
Helpful strategy link: http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/strategy.htm

Donít know about anyone else but the starting map is not loading for me. It may just be clogged internet pipes today either on the map end or mine.

Also, if anyone wants my spot, Iím willing to give it up. Make it known before first moves on May 20th.

TheEschaton
05-15-2007, 10:52 PM
Updated: moves will now be due at 11:59 EST because of players who work late.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-20-2007, 12:01 AM
Bump. Moves for Spring 1901 due in, now, less than 24 hours.

TheEschaton
05-20-2007, 06:41 PM
Little bit over 5 hours to get in moves for Spring 1901. I've decided to be strict on time, since we've got such a strict schedule, to make up for a certain laxness in such details like putting your country name in the body of the EMail. But still strict on order format too!

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-21-2007, 12:54 AM
As spring dawns on a new century full of hope and promise, sudden tensions rising throughout 1900 have begun to boil over. All across Europe, armies begin the long, slow process of strapping up their boots, and packing their gear, as they seek to secure their homelands against possible threat.

In the East, Russia seeks to secure its southern borders, and Turkey and Austria-Hungary seem to be heading for a clash in the Balkans over who will have an adequate buffer.

In the west, the French look to secure the Iberian peninsula, while the English take to sea.

Stuck in the middle, Germany and Italy seek to prepare themselves for the conflict that seems bound to meet at their borders.

Spring 1901 moves:

England:
F Edi - Nwg
F Lon - Nth
A Lvp - Edi

Russia:
F Stp-Bot
A Mos-Ukr
A War H
F Sev-Rum

Italy:
A Ven - Pie
A Rom - Apu
F Nap - Ion

Austria-Hungary:
F Tri-Alb
A Bud-Ser
A Vie H

Germany:
F Kie-Den
A Ber-Kie
A Mun-Ruh

France:
A Mar-Spa
F Bre-Mao
A Par-Bur

Turkey:
A Con-Bul
A Smy-Con
F Ank H

For the most part, guys (and gal), great formats on the orders. Note the individual corrections I gave you in EMails.

There are no retreats, so the next move is due Tuesday, May 22nd, at 11:59 pm.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-21-2007, 01:00 AM
map updated.

Nieninque
05-21-2007, 10:57 AM
Can you put the date of the next move in the first post with the map so we dont have to trawl through looking for it please.

TheEschaton
05-21-2007, 11:55 AM
no problem. Map updated.

Atlanteax
05-21-2007, 12:25 PM
I am surprised there is no fleet in the Black Sea.

The aftermath of Fall 1901 is definately going to be interesting, as it'll determine initial momentum.

Spring 1901 had quite a bit of non-threatening moves, but several potentially contestive territories are probably going to be disputed over in Fall 1901.

I am looking forward to seeing how the map will look like after the Fall 1901 moves.

Xandalf
05-21-2007, 12:50 PM
I am surprised there is no fleet in the Black Sea.

The aftermath of Fall 1901 is definately going to be interesting, as it'll determine initial momentum.

Spring 1901 had quite a bit of non-threatening moves, but several potentially contestive territories are probably going to be disputed over in Fall 1901.

I am looking forward to seeing how the map will look like after the Fall 1901 moves.


It's generally preferrable to be allied with everyone on the first few moves.

Back
05-22-2007, 07:15 AM
Different time period but its funny as hell.

http://www.devilducky.com/media/61540/

Sean of the Thread
05-22-2007, 08:44 AM
Different time period but its funny as hell.

http://www.devilducky.com/media/61540/

Hhaha. I've been trying to find that again for years.. thanks for the link.

Nieninque
05-22-2007, 08:59 AM
Yeah that's awesome.

The E, if you go into Edit>Preferences>Export, you can change the size of the .jpg you export the maps from. Setting the width to 1000 makes them a nice size rather than that horribly little squint-inducing size.

Atlanteax
05-22-2007, 02:18 PM
Anyone know how to force the program to shade in areas?

ie England Wales would be dark blue, instead of it's gray/tan color.

TheEschaton
05-22-2007, 02:52 PM
You only gain control of an area after Fall. If you're still holding the area after Fall, it'll turn dark blue.

-TheE-

Xandalf
05-22-2007, 03:00 PM
Anyone know how to force the program to shade in areas?

ie England Wales would be dark blue, instead of it's gray/tan color.

Yes, and I did so last game.

This game is using different rules than I used last game. You don't gain control unless you hold it at the end of the Fall turn.

As long as it's consistent and spelled out at the beginning, it's fine either way.

Skeeter
05-22-2007, 03:17 PM
I would think all the current rule would accomplish is to increase the amount of time it takes to complete a game.

Atlanteax
05-22-2007, 08:37 PM
Excuse me,

Currently (England) Wales is unoccupied.

However, it's presumed to be English territory at the start of the game. But it's not dark blue.

Ukraine would also be considered Russian territory, it should be White to start with? What if the Russian Army does not remain there in Fall 1901? I understand that the territory would not captured (which is moot, since no supply depot), but I think it should still be a white background, as for all sense and purpose, it's Russian territory.

Same goes for (German) Prussia, Silesia, Ruhr... they should be dark grey until a foreign power takes it?

.

Would be nice if the program would allow for highlighting of non-occupied "home region"s.

That is what I was referring to...

Sean of the Thread
05-22-2007, 08:47 PM
Yeah it just colors what is initially occupied as default. If you're running JDIP along side at h ome you can hit up edit mode and color it what you want.

Atlanteax
05-22-2007, 08:52 PM
Yeah it just colors what is initially occupied as default. If you're running JDIP along side at h ome you can hit up edit mode and color it what you want.

I have been unsuccessful in doing so...

Care to explain how to do it?

Sean of the Thread
05-22-2007, 09:06 PM
I have been unsuccessful in doing so...

Care to explain how to do it?

Never mind. I was thinking depots sorry.

Back
05-22-2007, 11:26 PM
I would think all the current rule would accomplish is to increase the amount of time it takes to complete a game.

Its also strategic. No more running roughshod through somewhere and racking up builds. You need to think about where you are in the Fall to hold. Like Sean2 trying to keep his home depots while picking up Spain and Portugal in two turns.

TheEschaton
05-23-2007, 02:10 AM
Sorry, got into San Antonio late, no theatrical buildup...

Fall 1901 moves:

England:
A Edi-Nwy
F Nwg C A Edi-Nwy
F Nth-Bel

Turkey:
A Bul - Gre
A Con - Bul
F Ank - Con

France:
A Bur-Mar
F Mao-Por

Italy:
A Pie H
A Apu - Tun
F Ion C A Apu - Tun

Austria:
F alb - gre
A ser S F alb - gre
A vie - bud

Germany:
F den H
A kie - hol
A ruh - mun

Russia:
F bot - swe
F rum H
A ukr S F rum
A war H

No retreats are due, so builds are due at 11:59 pm, Wednesday, May 23rd.

Edit:
Builds due are as follows:
England 2
Russia 2
France 2
Germany 2
Austria 2
Turkey 1
Italy 1

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-23-2007, 02:17 AM
map updated.

Nieninque
05-23-2007, 09:07 AM
Yeah it just colors what is initially occupied as default. If you're running JDIP along side at h ome you can hit up edit mode and color it what you want.

OMG I didnt know about edit mode.
I take back the extra work part I was talking about before the game.
/hum

Sean of the Thread
05-23-2007, 09:47 AM
Its also strategic. No more running roughshod through somewhere and racking up builds. You need to think about where you are in the Fall to hold. Like Sean2 trying to keep his home depots while picking up Spain and Portugal in two turns.

Not sure where you were going with that.

Nieninque
05-23-2007, 10:31 AM
Can I make another request?

Is it possible that underneath the Latest map, you post the map with the moves on as well so we can see in graphical form who moved where and what worked and what didnt?

Sean of the Thread
05-23-2007, 10:35 AM
Can I make another request?

Is it possible that underneath the Latest map, you post the map with the moves on as well so we can see in graphical form who moved where and what worked and what didnt?

That's what your brain is for!

Nieninque
05-23-2007, 10:39 AM
Im more of a visual person.

TheEschaton
05-23-2007, 11:00 AM
I'll do it when photobucket stops being a pain in my ass.

Nieninque
05-23-2007, 11:11 AM
imageshack.us

TheEschaton
05-23-2007, 11:15 AM
map updated with moves, with the resolved map under. The only moves which failed this turn are (all of) Turkey's moves. A good reminder that if you try and do a supply route sort of thing (moving into a province just vacated by your other unit), if the first unit gets blocked from moving, all your later moves get blocked too!

-TheE-

Atlanteax
05-23-2007, 12:16 PM
Assuming Austria-Hungary and Russia are not hostile to each other... Turkey is in trouble...

TheEschaton
05-23-2007, 05:10 PM
Builds due in less than 6 hours. Only got them from England, Italy, and A-H.

Sean of the Thread
05-23-2007, 07:35 PM
Builds due in less than 6 hours. Only got them from England, Italy, and A-H.

Honestly I'd say that's information you don't need to share with everyone.

Nieninque
05-23-2007, 07:49 PM
/agree

Atlanteax
05-23-2007, 10:33 PM
/agree (also)

Xandalf
05-23-2007, 10:39 PM
YEAH I AGREE TOO YOU'RE THE WORST GM EVER!


heh. I love it.

Sean of the Thread
05-23-2007, 10:47 PM
YEAH I AGREE TOO YOU'RE THE WORST GM EVER!


heh. I love it.

errrrr

Xandalf
05-23-2007, 11:51 PM
...it was a joke.

Back
05-23-2007, 11:53 PM
Why does showing who turned in builds matter?

TheEschaton
05-24-2007, 12:27 AM
I don't know why it matters, since most of them aren't really problematic. For example, Sean, you had two builds, and only had two supply centers open. :P Unless you were going to waive your builds, everyone knew where you were going to build, and in the case of land-locked Paris, what you were going to build. Anyways, I won't do it in the future.

The moves for Winter 1901:

Turkey:
B F Smy

France:
B A Par
B F Bre

Germany:
B A Ber
B A Kie

Russia:
B F Sev
B A Mos

England:
B F Lon
B F Lvp

Italy:
B F Nap

Austria-Hungary:
B A Tri
B A Vie

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-24-2007, 12:34 AM
map updated.

How's the pace going for everyone?

Spring 1902 moves due Thursday, 5/23 at 11:59 pm, as reflected on map post.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-24-2007, 12:47 AM
Oh, by the way, folks, with the dawning of 1902, I will now be strict on order formats. To recap (all in Austria-Hungary, my love):

Moves:
A Bud-Tri
F Tri-Adr

Support:
F Adr S A Tri
F Adr S A Tri-Ven

Holds:
A Tri H
or
A Tri Hold

Convoys:
F Adr C A Alb-Apu
F Ion C A Alb-Apu
A Alb-Apu

Note, in convoys, I would prefer it if you listed the fleets which are convoying first so I have an idea of wtf is going on, but this is not required. You are not required to spell out the particular path you are moving along with your army convoy either, IE A Alb-Adr-Apu, you can simply say A Alb-Apu, and as long as one of your convoys is successful (not cut off, so on, so forth), the move from Alb-Apu will be successful.

Note you can have two fleets trying to convoy the same unit - this can be done if you think one will be attacked. If both happen to be "successful", it doesn't matter which one does the actual convoying.

-TheE-

Back
05-24-2007, 12:52 AM
Pace is good. How is San Antone? ;)

Atlanteax
05-24-2007, 12:56 AM
The pace is great!

Artha
05-24-2007, 01:31 AM
I like the pace.

Sean of the Thread
05-24-2007, 01:38 AM
Pace is super.

Back
05-24-2007, 01:55 AM
Pace Picante sauce? I like it HOT.

Sean of the Thread
05-24-2007, 07:41 AM
NEW YORK CITY??!?!?!?

Sean of the Thread
05-24-2007, 07:44 AM
Why does showing who turned in builds matter?


I don't know why it matters, since most of them aren't really problematic.

If you think about it for a minute I'm sure you'll figure out why it could possibly matter.

The same reason it would matter if you announced "such and such" had already turned in their orders.

Back
05-24-2007, 08:43 AM
Well... I donít care either way. Last game people were posting their builds here on the boards. But hey, who gives a flip?

Sean of the Thread
05-24-2007, 08:51 AM
Well... I donít care either way. Last game people were posting their builds here on the boards. But hey, who gives a flip?

People posting their builds is another story. Coming from the GM (official) I'd rather it be after the deadline.

Perhaps a "Some of you still haven't turned in orders/builds" reminder would do well.

TheEschaton
05-24-2007, 09:17 AM
Are you negotiating your builds? You had two builds, and only two supply centers to build in. Were you negotiating whether a fleet or an army would be built in Bur? I guess that can make a difference.

So consider it a my bad, and I'll not do it again.

And San Antonio is good....my best friend has settled into Americana, it's weird. They have a house, he has a baby girl, they grill on the back porch, they watch American Idol. It's all very Twilight Zone-esque. I kind of want to be like, "Dude, you're 26, you should be snorting coke off a strippers butt..."

-TheE-

Sean of the Thread
05-24-2007, 09:21 AM
Are you negotiating your builds? You had two builds, and only two supply centers to build in. Were you negotiating whether a fleet or an army would be built in Bur? I guess that can make a difference.

So consider it a my bad, and I'll not do it again.

And San Antonio is good....my best friend has settled into Americana, it's weird. They have a house, he has a baby girl, they grill on the back porch, they watch American Idol. It's all very Twilight Zone-esque. I kind of want to be like, "Dude, you're 26, you should be snorting coke off a strippers butt..."

-TheE-

Hey no need to get defensive! I certainly appreciate you being GM and you're doing a very speedy and outstanding job.

I'm glad you'll leave the country names out of the reminders however.

Back
05-25-2007, 12:04 AM
Where is the update? YOU SOCK!

TheEschaton
05-25-2007, 12:41 AM
As spring springs forth in Europe in 1902, Austria-Hungary sits idly by while the rest of Europe pushes forth.

Germany moves south, possibly to meet a northwardly moving France. Russia concentrates its forces along its southern border, and Turkey moves to protect its borders from encroaching central Europeans. Italy makes a sudden move East, but its intentions are unknown - who is the Italian target?

Turkey:
A Con S A Bul
A Bul H
F Ank-Arm
F Smy-Aeg

Germany:
A Ber-Sil
A Mun-Bur
A Kie-Mun
A Hol-Ruh
F Den H

France:
F Bre-Eng
A Par-Pic
A Mar-Bur
A Spa-Mar
F Por-Mao

England:
F Nwg-Nao
F Lvp-Iri
F Lon-Eng
F Bel S F Lon-Eng

Italy:
A Pie-Mar
F ion-Eas
F Nap-Ion
A Tun H

Russia:
F Sev-Bla
F Rum S A Ser-Bul
F Swe H
A Mos-Sev
A War H
A Ukr H

No retreats are due, and this is a spring turn, so no builds either. That means we have off for awhile: Fall 1902 moves are due Sunday night, May 27th, 11:59 pm.

Oh, and I don't know what happened to Nein's orders, but I don't have 'em. Lucky nothing bad happened to Austria-Hungary.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-25-2007, 12:46 AM
map updated.

Back
05-25-2007, 01:25 AM
Wild! Interesting dynamic so far.

Atlanteax
05-25-2007, 01:54 AM
Any chance we can do Fall moves by end of Friday night instead of waiting until Sun?

Since there's no Retreats?

Back
05-25-2007, 02:04 AM
I donít think its up for a vote. But I would vote yes. :)

Nieninque
05-25-2007, 03:15 AM
Fuck...I fell asleep.

TheEschaton
05-25-2007, 10:22 AM
I'd like to keep it on schedule. I feel there should be a consistency in when we do moves. Maybe, if you want our off days to be Thursdays, have moves due on Friday, and retreats/builds on Saturday, then moves again on monday, maybe? I just thought it would be nice to have an off day on the weekend....

...yanno, since I'm 26 and have a life. :P

-TheE-

Atlanteax
05-25-2007, 10:48 AM
I'd like to keep it on schedule. I feel there should be a consistency in when we do moves. Maybe, if you want our off days to be Thursdays, have moves due on Friday, and retreats/builds on Saturday, then moves again on monday, maybe? I just thought it would be nice to have an off day on the weekend....

...yanno, since I'm 26 and have a life. :P

-TheE-

What, you can't take 10 minutes out of your day? =)

Atlanteax
05-25-2007, 10:52 AM
Fuck...I fell asleep.

A little ironic that you forgot to put in your orders, after you were let down when TheE forgot in your previous game.

Hopefully it won't cost you too much momentum as A-H, but I'd say that several of your neighbors got extra time/space as a result.

Granted, I'm probably stating the obvious, sorry.

Artha
05-27-2007, 12:54 PM
Moves are due tonight right?

Nieninque
05-27-2007, 01:28 PM
A little ironic that you forgot to put in your orders, after you were let down when TheE forgot in your previous game.

Hopefully it won't cost you too much momentum as A-H, but I'd say that several of your neighbors got extra time/space as a result.

Granted, I'm probably stating the obvious, sorry.

Hardly ironic.
I didnt screw anyone over in not putting my orders in.
Thanks for the kind thoughts though.

TheEschaton
05-27-2007, 08:22 PM
Moves due in less than 4 hours.

Still waiting on some.

I plan on being sauced, so maybe 1 or 2 EST for an update, with probably a smartass comment.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-28-2007, 12:16 AM
So, friend's wife put the kibash (kebash?) on the getting sauced bit, so here I am updating 2 minutes after midnight so I can fall asleep sober....

As Austria-Hungary roars awake, another European power falls asleep - where is France? Does it dare to hold strong while the rest of Europe fights for power? Will England open a two front war against both the Russians and the French? Will the Austrians attempts to move outwards be in any way checked? Can Turkey defend against a threat from across the Mediterranean? Just who exactly are the Russians friends with? Can commanders across Europe learn how to command????

Austria-Hungary:
A Tri - Ven
A Ser - Bul
F Gre S A Ser - Bul
A Bud - Gal
A Vie - Boh

Germany:
A Ruh - Bur
A Mun S A Ruh-Bur
F Den - Bal
A Kie - Den
A Sil - Boh

England:
A Nwy - Stp
F Eng - Pic
F Bel S F Eng - Pic
F Nao - Mao
F Iri S F Nao-Mao

Russia:
F Swe H
A War S A Bud - Gal
F Rum S F Bla
F Bla C A Sev - Ank
A Ukr - Sev

Italy:
A Pie - Mar
A Tun - Syr (order failed! Your convoys were going to Smy, not Syr)
F Ion C A Tun - Smy
F Eas C A Tun - Smy

Turkey:
F Aeg - Gre
A Bul S F Aeg - Gre
A Con - Smy
F Arm H

A few notes, guys. Daniel, you failed to give the move order for your Sev unit, so it was considered a hold. Your convoy order was technically correct, but since A Sev H instead of A Sev-Ank, nothing happened. BL, you just put the wrong destination on your convoy in (or the wrong convoy routes on your convoys, depending).

In other words, Turkey was very, very, very lucky...

Retreats are due at 1 pm EST tomorrow from:
France (MAO, PIC)

At that point, I will tell you who will be building/disbanding this winter. I've also posted the schedule for this week in the first post.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-28-2007, 12:25 AM
map updated.

Back
05-28-2007, 12:27 AM
Well fuck me.

Stunseed
05-28-2007, 12:28 AM
< In other words, Turkey was very, very, very lucky... >

No shit. :)

Back
05-28-2007, 12:44 AM
Disband Tun plz.

Sean of the Thread
05-28-2007, 01:05 AM
Hmmm odd.. I know I sent my orders in... TREACHERY!

I double know that my retreats are sent. PLEASE get back to me if you don't receive these as well.

Artha
05-28-2007, 01:49 AM
Daniel, you failed to give the move order for your Sev unit, so it was considered a hold.
I'm not complaining about the move not happening (shit happens :shrug:), but I don't see why that would be necessary. Why would I have a fleet convoy an army and not do it? Convoys are considered a type of move, so I didn't figure it was needed to explicitly state the movement move also.

Sean of the Thread
05-28-2007, 02:18 AM
Welcome to the fuckery of diplomacy. :(

I'm pissed my orders were not received.. but such is life.

TheEschaton
05-28-2007, 09:43 AM
Sean, I was surprised too. It was 11:55 and I was looking for you, but you weren't online. I checked my inbox, my spam folder, everything. Do you have it in your outbox?

Retreats I got. Retreats are as follows:

A Pic-Par
F Mao-Por

I've put the new map as the "Resolved Map" on the first post.

Builds due:
Austria, 1
England, 1

Disbands due:
Italy, 1
Russia, 1.

Backlash, I'll count your post here for your disband. Builds/disbands due by 11:59 pm tonight.

And Daniel - those are the rules of Diplomacy. Maybe you should have read them. I didn't make that up. ;)

-TheE-

Nieninque
05-28-2007, 09:45 AM
I'm not complaining about the move not happening (shit happens :shrug:), but I don't see why that would be necessary. Why would I have a fleet convoy an army and not do it? Convoys are considered a type of move, so I didn't figure it was needed to explicitly state the movement move also.

You have to give explicit orders for each unit otherwise they just hold. Pretty stupid commanders...but there you go. If you dont tell them to do something, they do nothing.

TheEschaton
05-28-2007, 09:52 AM
map updated with retreats. I actually put the map with retreats under the other two instead of removing the old one.

Edit: and Artha, think of it this way. In the early 1900s, communication was poor, probably nonexistant between units in the field - communication came from one channel, probably, central command. Telling the fleet to convoy doesn't necessarily mean the commander of the army got the word that the fleet was waiting to convoy his army. Receiving no orders, he would have naturally assumed he was holding..

Edit: Do you guys want me to give a simple confirmation orders were received? A simple "thx"?

Builds/disbands by 11:59.

-TheE-

Sean of the Thread
05-28-2007, 10:18 AM
.

Edit: Do you guys want me to give a simple confirmation orders were received? A simple "thx"?


-TheE-

I would like that.

Back
05-28-2007, 02:03 PM
Ok, changed my mind on my disband. Apologies everyone. Iíll send my revised disband order directly to E and stop posting them. Bad idea.

TheEschaton
05-29-2007, 12:08 AM
Winter 1902 builds/disbands:

Italy:
Disband F Eas

Russia:
Disband A Ukr

Austria-Hungary:
B A Tri

England:
B A Lon

Spring 1903 moves are due Tuesday, May 29th, at 11:59 pm.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-29-2007, 12:15 AM
map updated.

Atlanteax
05-29-2007, 10:29 AM
I am looking forward to seeing how 1903 plays out!

Xandalf
05-29-2007, 12:25 PM
Looks to be an interesting game already.

TheEschaton
05-30-2007, 12:38 AM
Spring of 1903 with tensions mounting. How will the Italians suffer Austrian intrustion? How will Russia respond to English incursions right into the heart of the Motherland? Will the whirling dervish on the outskirts of Europe finally find the calm in the eye of the storm, lying in the middle of it all, Germany? Can the Turks hold on much longer?

Oh, boy, folks, some crazy ass moves this time around.

Spring 1903:
Italy:
F ion S Turkey F Aeg - Gre
A Pie - Tus
A Tun H

Russia:
F Swe - Nwy
A Sev - Mos
A War S A Sev - Mos
F Bla - Sev
F Rum - Bul

France:
A Par-Bur
A Mar S A Par-Bur
F Por-Mao
F Bre S F Por-Mao
A Spa S A Mar

Turkey:
F Aeg S Ion - Gre
A Smy - Con
F Arm S A Smy - Con (Order failed! You cannot support a unit moving to a province if you cannot move to that province yourself)
A Bul S Ion - Gre

Austria-Hungary:
F Gre S F Rum - Bul
A Ser S F Rum - Bul
A Gal S A Vie - Boh
A Vie - Boh
A Tri - Tyr
A Ven S A Tri - Tyr

England:
F Mao-Gas
A Stp-Nwy
F Iri-Eng
F Bel S F Iri-Eng
F Pic H

Germany:
A Bur S F Pic
A Mun S A Bur
A Den-Swe
F Bal S A Den-Swe
A Sil-War

A few notes: Please note the rules for special movements of fleets to coastal provinces with two coasts. In re: to Artha's move from Sev-Bul, since jDip accepts the move (counting A-H's support for a generic Sev-Bul move) despite it converting the move to (Sev-Bul EC), I'm willing to accept it. But try and match support and moves to the standards listed in the rules so I'm not confused. :)

Retreats from Russia (SWE) are due tomorrow at 1 pm EST. Turkey's BUL cannot retreat to anywhere, so it is automatically destroyed.

-TheE-

Back
05-30-2007, 12:46 AM
MAPS

Artha
05-30-2007, 12:47 AM
MAPS
QFT.

Back
05-30-2007, 12:49 AM
FOCK THE GM!

TheEschaton
05-30-2007, 12:54 AM
I'm trying, photobucket is being a pain in my ASS

Back
05-30-2007, 12:58 AM
:rofl: Turning in. Catach you all to mo.

TheEschaton
05-30-2007, 01:44 AM
Maps updated.

Nieninque
05-30-2007, 07:59 AM
Oh what tangled webs we weave,
When mistakes within our orders screw our chances to deceive.

TheEschaton
05-30-2007, 10:43 AM
I made a mistake, retreats are only due tonight at 11:59, this is spring, so no builds/disbands.

I'm hopping on a plane in a few hours, winging back to Boston. Should be home well before the deadline.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-31-2007, 12:37 AM
Retreats:

Russia:
Swe-Ska

Moves due Thursday at 11:59, for Fall 1903.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-31-2007, 12:42 AM
maps updated. Will be an interesting move tomorrow, for sure.

Sean of the Thread
05-31-2007, 12:57 AM
maps updated. Will be an interesting move tomorrow, for sure.

Ain't no lie.

Atlanteax
05-31-2007, 11:39 AM
maps updated. Will be an interesting move tomorrow, for sure. Ain't no lie.

The English Crown is keeping its fingers crossed...

TheEschaton
05-31-2007, 11:45 AM
About 12 hours to go and I'm still waiting on orders from almost all of you. Some serious negotiations going on in the background, eh?!?

-TheE-

Atlanteax
05-31-2007, 11:53 AM
About 12 hours to go and I'm still waiting on orders from almost all of you. Some serious negotiations going on in the background, eh?!?

-TheE-

Dude, as you know, it's called Diplomacy!

Hopefully no one suffers from lack of orders being submitted.

Izalude
05-31-2007, 12:06 PM
I'm at work... Will submit my orders after I get home.

Sean of the Thread
05-31-2007, 12:07 PM
Mine will be in around 11:58 EST as usual.

Sean of the Thread
05-31-2007, 12:47 PM
The English Crown is keeping its fingers crossed...

:goodluck: :wink:

Stunseed
05-31-2007, 11:56 PM
Map/update in 3 minutes and 30 seconds, plz.

Back
06-01-2007, 12:29 AM
Its TheEís birthday. Expect an angry drunken post soon.

Stunseed
06-01-2007, 12:30 AM
Haha, I'm just kidding, toss an extra drink down for me.

TheEschaton
06-01-2007, 12:34 AM
It's my birthday. And I had to wait til the last minute to see if someone would turn in their moves. Someone didn't. Boo. Russia's loss. Congrats to Turkey, for making sure it didn't lose it's supply depot.

Fall 1903:
Turkey:
A Con - Bul
F Aeg S A Con - Bul
F Arm - Bla

Italy:
F Ion - Gre
A Tus - Rom
A Tun H

Germany:
F Bal-Den
A Sil S Mun
A Bur-Par
A Mun H
A Swe-Nor

England:
A Stp-Nor
F Gas-Bre
F Eng-Iri
F Bel-Hol
F Pic-Bel

France:
F Mao-Eng
A par-pic
A spa-gas
a mar S a spa-gas
F bre s a par-pic

Austria Hungary:
A Ven - Rom
A Boh - Mun
A Tyr S A Boh - Mun
A Gal - Sil
F Gre S F Bul (ec)
A Ser S F Gre

Retreats are required by England from GAS, Germany from MUN (losing a supply center, ouch), and Russia from BUL. They are due by 1 pm EST tomorrow.

-TheE-

Back
06-01-2007, 12:39 AM
You did not post AHís.

TheEschaton
06-01-2007, 12:40 AM
map updated.

<insert drunken comment here>

-TheE-

Stunseed
06-01-2007, 12:41 AM
< insert taking an extra drink >

I start my vacation tomorrow. The bacardi vanilla is looking REAL good right now.

TheEschaton
06-01-2007, 12:42 AM
Sorry, A-H's moves posted. She got them in so much earlier than the rest of you that I had it in jDip already, and forgot to c&p them in. :P

TheEschaton
06-01-2007, 12:44 AM
by the way guys, perfect orders (acept for Arhta not posting his.) Keep them coming.

-TheE-

Back
06-01-2007, 12:46 AM
Ok, now go back out and party.

Stunseed
06-01-2007, 12:48 AM
< (acept for Arhta not posting his.) >

Looks like the extra drink has been taken. Huzzah for you!

Atlanteax
06-01-2007, 01:39 AM
The English Crown is thrilled with the activity of Fall 1903.

Guess keeping fingers crossed does indeed works wonders!

Sean of the Thread
06-01-2007, 04:31 AM
It's my birthday.

Happy BD hookers are on ME!
















No I'm not paying for them silly..They better get off of me before my wife comes home though.

Daniel
06-01-2007, 04:35 AM
< insert taking an extra drink >

I start my vacation tomorrow. The bacardi vanilla is looking REAL good right now.

This has to be the gayest post ever, besides anything written by Necromancer.

Stunseed
06-01-2007, 04:41 AM
Pfft. Dr.Pepper + Bacardi Vanilla is one of the smoother "quick" drinks I keep around. But thanks for the consideration.

Sean of the Thread
06-01-2007, 04:45 AM
This has to be the gayest post ever, besides anything written by Necromancer.

Or Arkans/luke who puts grenadine in his fucking drinks/beer.

Sean of the Thread
06-01-2007, 04:46 AM
Pfft. Dr.Pepper + Bacardi Vanilla is one of the smoother "quick" drinks I keep around. But thanks for the consideration.

You need some whiskey pal.

TheEschaton
06-01-2007, 12:03 PM
Retreats, Fall 1903:

Germany:
Mun-Ruh

England:
Gas-Mao

Russia:
Bul-Rum

Builds due tonight by 11:59 pm by the following:
Austria (1)
England (1)
Turkey (1)

Disbands due tonight by 11:59 pm by the following:
France (1)
Russia (1)

TheEschaton
06-01-2007, 12:12 PM
And ignore that I posted these an hour early. I just realized. Bit hungover, but I figure - all retreats are in. who cares?

Stunseed
06-01-2007, 12:45 PM
< You need some whiskey pal. >

If I'm "out" and drinking, whiskey is definately in the battle plan. I guess the difference is if I'm at home, I'm mainly just taking the edge off, whereas if I'm going to go out and there's a DD, I'm prolly going to get partially/totally fucked up.

I also don't desire to influence the kiddos into believing that drinking is okay, so I've got the alcohol stored away. I know, I'm a prude.

Artha
06-01-2007, 01:49 PM
Fuck falling asleep.

Atlanteax
06-01-2007, 01:55 PM
Fuck falling asleep.

You had 1.5 days to submit orders???

Nevermind that the night before I was cussing you out about your stray fleet in SKA!

Sean of the Thread
06-01-2007, 02:43 PM
Nevermind that the night before I was cussing you out about your stray fleet in SKA!

Yeah nevermind that it's only tying up four of your units STILL.

TheEschaton
06-01-2007, 08:11 PM
4 hours til the build/disband deadline.

Remember, if no orders are submitted, your build is automatically waived for this turn, and I am forced to disband your unit furthest away from your home depots.

-TheE-

Sean of the Thread
06-01-2007, 08:59 PM
Build?

Back
06-01-2007, 09:55 PM
Yeah, only builds are due tonight. Next move orders are Sunday. The night of the Italian insurgence.

Artha
06-01-2007, 11:28 PM
You had 1.5 days to submit orders???
I'm an epic procrastinator too.

TheEschaton
06-02-2007, 12:41 AM
So, Russia fails to submit orders again. No worries, I'm sure it's what he would have done anyways.

Disbands:
Russia:
Disband Ska

France:
Disband Mar

Builds:
A-H:
B A Tri

England:
B F Edi

Turkey:
B A Ank

Moves for Spring 1904 are due on Sunday, June 3rd, at 11:59 pm. I'll update the new schedule too for the next two weeks.

-TheE-

Artha
06-02-2007, 12:52 AM
No worries, I'm sure it's what he would have done anyways.
Yeah, I remembered at like 10 till and figured I'd be doing that anyway.

TheEschaton
06-02-2007, 12:53 AM
maps and schedule updated.

And no, I cannot move the Sunday move up. I'm moving to NYC this weekend, and I need all those days to pack/move/unpack.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
06-03-2007, 03:40 PM
Moves due in a little over 8 hours. Still waiting for orders from most of you.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
06-03-2007, 08:29 PM
still waitin' on three of you. If I haven't responded to your EMail, I don't have your moves.

TheEschaton
06-04-2007, 12:15 AM
In the East, the Ruso-Austrian Alliance builds power, slowly choking off the Ottoman Empire, while in the West, the mighty English flex their power by moving into Continental Europe.

However, smaller powers, desperate to grab power, have suddenly lashed out in surprising ways. Will their ploys to sneak into the heart of these Empire work....or will the mighty powers swiftly destroy them?

Meanwhile, Germany idly consolidates its power centrally - will anyone broach the compact, yet comprehensive German force?

SPring 1904:

Austria-Hungary:
F Gre - Bul/sc
A Ser S F Gre - Bul/sc
A Gal - Sil
A Mun S A Gal - Sil
A Ven - Apu
A Tri - Ven
A Tyr S A Mun

Germany:
A Swe-Den
F Den-Kie
A Sil-Ber
A Ruh S F Den-Kie
A Par H

Italy:
F Ion C A Tun - Alb
A Tun - Alb
A Tus - Rom

Russia:
F Sev - Bla
F Rum S F Sev - Bla
A War H
A Mos - Stp

England:
F Edi-Nwg
F Hol-Nth
F Bel-Pic
F Iri-Eng
F Mao-Gas
A Stp H
A Lon H

France:
A Pic - Wal
F Eng Convoy A Pic - Wal
F Bre - Mao
A Gas-Spa

Turkey:
F Aeg S Bul
A Bul H
F Bla - Sev
A Ank - Arm

Wow, guys, some surprising moves by Italy and France. Let's see if they work out.

I need one retreat, due tomorrow night at 11:59 (Monday, June 4th), from Turkey retreating from BLA.

-TheE-

Artha
06-04-2007, 12:19 AM
Maps! Maps!

TheEschaton
06-04-2007, 12:21 AM
maps updated.

Stunseed
06-04-2007, 12:24 AM
Retreat order has been sent.

TheEschaton
06-04-2007, 12:25 AM
I'm going to bed, and I'll deal with it tomorrow. If you all want me to post it before midnight tomorrow and Stunseed agrees, i'll do it when I have time. First day of work at the Manhattan DA tomorrow.

-TheE-

Sean of the Thread
06-04-2007, 01:14 PM
I

Wow, guys, some surprising moves by Italy and France. Let's see if they work out.


-TheE-

Tee Hee!

Atlanteax
06-04-2007, 03:23 PM
Wow, guys, some surprising moves by Italy and France. Let's see if they work out.

-TheE-
Tee Hee!

You'll be turning that smile upside down come Wednesday!

TheEschaton
06-05-2007, 12:20 AM
Turkey's retreat"

F Bla-Ank

Moves due Tuesday night at 11:59.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
06-05-2007, 12:26 AM
maps updated.

TheEschaton
06-05-2007, 10:09 PM
Fall 1904 moves due in less than 2 hours.

TheEschaton
06-06-2007, 12:17 AM
Italy continues to surprise, and Austria continues to roll. And France almost capitalizes on an English mistake.

Fall 1904:

England:
F Gas-Bre
F Pic-Eng
F Iri-Liv
F Nwg-Nor
A Stp-Mos
A Lon H
A Nth S A Lon (I'm sorry - you have a fleet in Nth, not an army. Order failed)

Germany:
A Par S F Gas-Bre
F Kie S Ber
A Ruh-Bel
A Ber H
A Den H

Russia:
F Bla - Sev
F Rum S F Gre - Bul/SC
A War - Lvn
A Mos - Stp

Austria-Hungary:
A Ven - Rom
A Apu S A Ven - Rom
A Tyr - Tri
F Gre - Bul/sc
A Ser S F Gre - Bul/sc
A Mun S A Sil
A Sil S A Mun

Italy:
A Rom - Tus
A Alb - Gre
F Ion S A Alb - Gre

Turkey:
A Bul - Ser
F Aeg - Con
F Ank - Bla
A Arm - Sev

France:
A Spa-Gas
A Wal-Lon
F Eng S A Wal-Lon
F Mao-Nao

You're lucky you cut support, England, or your screwed up order would have cost you London.

Turkey was the only one dislodged, but as they have nowhere to retreat to, the Bulgarian Army is automatically disbanded. Therefore, no retreats are required tomorrow.

The Bre depot is now English, Rom is now Austrian, as is Bul, but Gre is suddenly Italian.

Builds due:
Austria, 1 (gained 2, lost 1)

Disbands due:
France, 1.

Italy managed to gain 1, lose 1, so they don't have to do anything. And of course, the Turkish army already disbanded.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
06-06-2007, 12:24 AM
maps updated.

Atlanteax
06-06-2007, 12:38 AM
Italy continues to surprise, and Austria continues to roll. And France almost capitalizes on an English mistake.

Fall 1904:

A Nth S A Lon (I'm sorry - you have a fleet in Nth, not an army. Order failed)

You're lucky you cut support, England, or your screwed up order would have cost you London.
-TheE-

Ouch!

Could had said something... but obviously I'll need to do a better job of double-checking my submitted orders.

TheEschaton
06-06-2007, 07:59 AM
I didn't check the orders til I put them in. I just responded if I got them.

Sorry, but I just started a new job, don't have time to check all your orders. :P

-TheE-

Nieninque
06-06-2007, 08:00 AM
You checked F Iri - Liv

TheEschaton
06-06-2007, 08:16 AM
That's because jDip labels its maps non-standardly. Abbreviations of maps are usually just the first three letters of a province, but that would mean there are two "Liv" on the map. Any normal person would know he's trying to move from Iri to Liverpool, not Livonia, so I don't see why an order put in a standard rule format should be rejected because jDip is peculiar in this one aspect.

Oh, and I only checked it after the deadline - when I inputted the order and it didn't go through for AMBIGUITY (IE, wasn't rejected in jDip, they just claimed it was ambiguous).

TheEschaton
06-06-2007, 08:19 AM
But then again, maybe you wanted me to reject all of yours and Artha's moves that referred to Bul (sc), since jDip only seems to understand Bul/SC.

-TheE-

Nieninque
06-06-2007, 08:34 AM
Well first of all, he obviously doesnt have an Army in the Irish sea, so "Any normal person" could see he meant to move his fleet, not his army.

Secondly, while jDip "didnt reject" the Irish sea to Liverpool move, it also didn't push it through, so it required some checking and amending on your part to enable it to do so. I would argue, however, that "didn't go through" and "wasn't rejected" are mutually incompatible. If it didnt go through, it was rejected.
I dont care either way which you do, but it's kinda nice to be consistent.

In terms of the moves me and Artha put in regarding Bulgaria, as you pointed out at the time, jDip read those as moving to the appropriate coast (there was only one option for each of the fleets concerned to be able to move to) so the program accepted the orders and executed them accordingly. I believe your request was more to do with you being able to follow it than the program, which is somewhat different.

Nevertheless, you previously posted some guidance on the use of coasts which, if you look at Artha's and my own orders this last turn, was implemented accordingly.

Thank you for playing.

Nieninque
06-06-2007, 09:11 AM
p.s. you are doing a good job with the updates and stuff.

Just saying :)

Nieninque
06-06-2007, 09:30 AM
And I'm just arguing for the sake of it. Ignore me.

Sean of the Thread
06-06-2007, 10:24 AM
It's not TheE's responsibility to notify erroneous orders like that imo. That much I agreed with Xandalf on.

Atlanteax
06-06-2007, 02:08 PM
Wait...

So, TheE is is typing in the orders?

Seems more likely that he is using the program and selecting "move" "support" "hold" and click the requisite places and moves.

.

Anyhow, I'm pleased with the pace of the updates... I just wish we weren't wasting full days on retreat/disband orders. Game would be further along now otherwise.

Nieninque
06-06-2007, 02:11 PM
No he isnt typing in the orders. He is cutting and pasting the orders into the program. Which is why it's funny that he changed your order so that Iri - Lvp worked (you wrote Iri - Liv) but not A Blah - Blah instead of F Blah - Blah.

Atlanteax
06-06-2007, 02:15 PM
No he isnt typing in the orders. He is cutting and pasting the orders into the program. Which is why it's funny that he changed your order so that Iri - Lvp worked (you wrote Iri - Liv) but not A Blah - Blah instead of F Blah - Blah.

I agree there.

In the meantime, I obviously need to be more careful about submitted orders.

Nieninque
06-06-2007, 02:45 PM
I am now pasting my orders into jDip first to make sure they work out. Only after I have done that do I send them to the E

Sean of the Thread
06-06-2007, 04:01 PM
You and you alone are responsible for issuing correct orders. If you fuck them up.. they're fucked up. That's the way it is.

Nieninque
06-06-2007, 04:11 PM
/agree

TheEschaton
06-06-2007, 07:17 PM
I can't wait til the cries of "GM favoritism!!!!!!1111oneone" start. I've been applying to be a GS GM for the past 8 years hoping to hear that, maybe this can be a close second.

-TheE-

Artha
06-06-2007, 07:40 PM
GM favoritism!!!!!!1111oneone

TheEschaton
06-07-2007, 12:02 AM
Winter 1904 builds/disbands:

France:
Disband F Eng

Austria-Hungary:
B A Bud

-TheE-

TheEschaton
06-07-2007, 12:06 AM
maps updated.

I kept the moves from last turn (Fall 1904) instead of replacing it with the builds/disbands "moves" map because I think the former is probably more useful. The resolved map after builds/disbands follows afterwards.

Spring 1905 moves are due tomorrow night (Thursday night) at 11:59 pm.

Live long and prosper,
-TheE-

TheEschaton
06-08-2007, 12:17 AM
Someone does something, I dunno, I'm still pissed they let Paris out of jail. Oh, by the way, Backlash, you can't move from Gre-Nap without a convoy, as opposed to the support order you gave.

Spring 1905:

Italy:
A Tus - Ven
A Gre - Nap
F ion S A Gre - Nap

France:
A Wal - Lvp
F Nao S A wal - lvp
A gas - spa

Germany:
A Par H
A Bel-Ruh
A Ber-Pru
F Kie-Bal
A Den-Kie

England:
A Stp H
F Nwy S A Stp
F Bre-Mao
F Pic-Bre
A Lon-Wal
F Lvp H
F Nth-Nwg

Turkey:
F Con - Bla
F Ank S Con - Bla
A Arm - Sev

Russia:
A Mos - Stp
A Lvn S A Mos - Stp
F Bla - Sev
F Rum S F Bla - Sev

Austria-Hungary:
A Mun S A Sil
A Sil S A Mun
A Ser - Bul
F Bul (sc) - Aeg
A Apu - Nap
A Rom S A Apu - Nap
A Tri - Alb
A Bud - Ser

English retreat from Lvp due Friday night at 11:59, then a whole weekend for your hellishly important Fall 1905 moves!

-TheE-

TheEschaton
06-08-2007, 12:18 AM
oh, and this time, I updated the maps first.

Back
06-08-2007, 12:23 AM
Oh, by the way, Backlash, you can't move from Gre-Nap without a convoy, as opposed to the support order you gave.

It wouldnít have made it anyway. But thanks for stating the obvious.

TheEschaton
06-08-2007, 07:39 AM
yeah, but you would have stood off with A-H, and THEY wouldn't have taken one of your home supply depots.

-TheE-

Nieninque
06-08-2007, 08:00 AM
No it would have been 2v1 Austria still would have taken it.

TheEschaton
06-08-2007, 08:04 AM
Ah, wasn't paying attention. :P

You can barely see the dashed line on the support from Rom.

-TheE-

Nieninque
06-08-2007, 08:05 AM
yeah, its hard when they are so close.

Back
06-08-2007, 08:50 AM
yeah, but you would have stood off with A-H, and THEY wouldn't have taken one of your home supply depots.

-TheE-

Damn, kick a guy when heís down! Heartless bastard. Hows that move to NY going?

TheEschaton
06-08-2007, 06:12 PM
It's awesome. I'm loving the Lower East Side. :)

Gonna catch some dinner, then go out TIL 4 IN THE MORNING. Thank God cooler heads have prevailed and a person can drink til 4 in the morning.

Sean of the Thread
06-08-2007, 09:14 PM
Closing time is 4 am there? Ouch.

It's 2 and 3 am around here.. with no public transit. :(

Artha
06-08-2007, 09:34 PM
House parties are where it's at. Closing time here is 6am :).

Sean of the Thread
06-08-2007, 09:52 PM
Legal closing time or house parties stop then? House parties everywhere but legal time is 2 am / 3 am here. Unless of course you goto a bottle club.