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Ebondale
11-28-2005, 03:35 PM
So Maxis has released The Sims Complete Collection which has the original game plus all seven expansion packs reasonably priced at about $40.00.

I picked it up over the weekend and just started playing it last night.

The problem is... I suck at it. Bad. Like, really really bad.

My Sim "Jack Owens" has a whole bunch of money and I've upped his Creativity skill to the maximum using a guitar in his house. I want him to become a major rock star.

He has hired a Butler, a Maid, and a Gardener. Its not like he has to do anything for himself. He gets up in the morning. Takes a bath in his expensive bath tub. Uses his cushy expensive toilet. Eats a meal prepared by his Butler.. then proceeds over to his guitar to practice all day long.

Well, this doesn't exactly help his social life. The problem is that if I spend time trying to up his social life his other things go to crap. He'll be depressed because he needs to go to the bathroom, needs a bath, is hungry, isn't having any fun, etc.

If I'm having all these problems with a depressed Sim who doesn't have to go to work and clean his own house and things like that, how do people keep a Sim from offing themselves who have to deal with all that stuff? I can just never get all of his bars into the green...

How do I start to get the Sim famous, too? Should I have him start using the Karaoke thingie down in the Superstar Town?

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 03:39 PM
Social goes up pretty fast if you have him invite people over, meet people at a community lot or any other kind of interaction. Just have him talk to people and his social will go up for a good while, leaving you with time to work on the other skills.

You can also try creating other families in the neighborhood. They'll eventually come and visit from time to time on the fly.

It's really not hard. You can't suck at Sims. If he dies, you make another one.

Wezas
11-28-2005, 03:42 PM
CT has some good advice. Especially if he's loaded, throw a party. From what I remember you can buy a buffet table and not have to worry about food.

It's all about time management.

Barring that, use a cheat to keep all his levels maxxed.

Skeeter
11-28-2005, 03:44 PM
:lol: guess if you suck at Sims that means you suck at life.



[Edited on 11-28-2005 by Skeeter]

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Wezas
CT has some good advice. Especially if he's loaded, throw a party. From what I remember you can buy a buffet table and not have to worry about food.

It's all about time management.

Barring that, use a cheat to keep all his levels maxxed.

Oh, "Jack" has something like $90,000 right now and I'd love to throw a huge party and hire a Caterer but I don't know where to go through the menu system to puchase a catering table and punch bowl so that the Caterer will actually do their job.

Theres a cheat to keep their mood levels maxed out?

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Skeeter
:lol: guess if you suck at Sims that means you suck at life.


lol

Well, yeah... that would make sense. If only that were the case, though. :) I'm doing pretty well for myself...

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 03:45 PM
Heh, you can buy a chemical set and have them keep on making potions until it's yellow. That increases all the stats to max. Really hard to get them unhappy at that point.

Landrion
11-28-2005, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Ebondale
So Maxis has released The Sims Complete Collection which has the original game plus all seven expansion packs reasonably priced at about $40.00.

I picked it up over the weekend and just started playing it last night.

The problem is... I suck at it. Bad. Like, really really bad.

My Sim "Jack Owens" has a whole bunch of money and I've upped his Creativity skill to the maximum using a guitar in his house. I want him to become a major rock star.

He has hired a Butler, a Maid, and a Gardener. Its not like he has to do anything for himself. He gets up in the morning. Takes a bath in his expensive bath tub. Uses his cushy expensive toilet. Eats a meal prepared by his Butler.. then proceeds over to his guitar to practice all day long.

Well, this doesn't exactly help his social life. The problem is that if I spend time trying to up his social life his other things go to crap. He'll be depressed because he needs to go to the bathroom, needs a bath, is hungry, isn't having any fun, etc.

If I'm having all these problems with a depressed Sim who doesn't have to go to work and clean his own house and things like that, how do people keep a Sim from offing themselves who have to deal with all that stuff? I can just never get all of his bars into the green...

How do I start to get the Sim famous, too? Should I have him start using the Karaoke thingie down in the Superstar Town?

Well, one thing you can do to make his life a lot easier is get a live-in girlfriend. Its easier to help the sim's social bar when you have someone handy to chat with over dinner/watching TV etc.

Also, he'll enjoy playing for people as a group activity, so dont waste time practicing solo. Invite some people over, play for them and achieve two goals at once.

Same thing with his "fun" meter. Playstation with a friend builds a relationship, social and fun all at once. Unfortunately you cant bathe with other sims (except in the hot tub, which is a very slow hygiene raiser).

That is the central strategy to managing a sim. Wherever you can hit two bars - do it. A comfortable bed fixes the sleep and comfort needs. Thus you dont waste time sitting around to fix it instead. Eating with people picks up social and food. You get the idea.

Im not too sure about the fame stuff - I never bought that expansion.

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 03:47 PM
The buffet table you have to buy. It's usually in the miscellaneous stuff. When the caterer arrives, he'll automatically fill it up and work from there.

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 03:47 PM
A chemical set? What kind of skill does that increase?

Hey, do you know how to get my Sim started on his way to being a mega rockstar? :D

Kainen
11-28-2005, 03:48 PM
My son likes to take off all the doors and station a man-eating plant at the window. It east the burglers when they come in.. then eats the cops when they chase the burglers.

[Edited on 11-28-2005 by Kainen]

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 03:49 PM
And if he has that much money, then he should have the best of everything, such as best bed, best tub, best stove and fridge. The better the item, the less time they spend in that task, leaving time for other things.

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Kainen
My son likes to take off all the doors and station a man-eating plant at the window. It east the burgalers when they come in.. then eats the cops when they chase the burgarlers.

Hahaha, thats wicked! I love it! :) I don't think I've seen a man-eating plant anywhere available for purchase... then again I'm still a Sims n00b. :smilegrin:

[Edited on 11-28-2005 by Ebondale]

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Ebondale
A chemical set? What kind of skill does that increase?

Chemical sets increase logic.


Hey, do you know how to get my Sim started on his way to being a mega rockstar? :D

Well naturally they will need an instrument and max it out, preferably. They will also need an agent, which I believe you can either call for one or from a magazine.. I can't remember right now. Then send them out to the lots and have them perform on the street or in bars. It gets their star level increased.

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 03:54 PM
I don't remember man-eating plants in Sims. Only in Sims 2. They are very different games.

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 03:56 PM
Well naturally they will need an instrument and max it out, preferably. They will also need an agent, which I believe you can either call for one or from a magazine.. I can't remember right now. Then send them out to the lots and have them perform on the street or in bars. It gets their star level increased.

How do you perform on the street? My guy did max out his creativity using the electric guitar in his home, but I didn't think there was some sort of way to take a guitar along with him to the Superstar Town.

:help: :lol:

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 04:00 PM
Actually, because it's just a matter of having high creativity, just have them go to a superstar lot. In some of the places, there's an open mike, or a drum set, or whatever other instrument. He just needs to go on stage and perform. It will give an option on the mic or instrument to perform. People will eventually show up and either clap and dance along, or boo you. It will tell you how you did once you're done and off the stage.

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 04:03 PM
Thanks for all of your help! I'm sure Jack will be able to be a... creative super logical yellow-potion-mixing rock megastar in no time. :D

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 04:03 PM
Thanks for all of your help! I'm sure Jack will be able to be a... creative super logical yellow-potion-mixing rock megastar in no time. :D

SpunGirl
11-28-2005, 04:11 PM
Wow. The entire set for $40 kind of inspires me to play again. I used to use the cheat to give them like a bajillion dollars, build the coolest house I could imagine, and then I'd get bored. Or I'd kill them off on purpose by making them go swimming, then removing the stepladder from the pool. Sadistic, yes, but fun.

Another thing that was fun to do was have two sims fall in love, then bring in another sim to break up the relationship... then of course, kill one or two of them off. AHAHAHAHAHA.

::goes to target to buy the complete set::

-K

Kainen
11-28-2005, 04:13 PM
Oh yeah.. it's almost more fun to kill em off. Another trick is to put a fireplace in a room.. then chairs in front of the fireplace. Get your Sim in there, remove the doors and set it on fast forward.

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 04:16 PM
YOU EVIL.

:thumbsup:

Wezas
11-28-2005, 04:17 PM
on MTV2 last night there was some kind of marathon of game shows. One of them being all about Sims.

And how addicting it is.

And the sickos that play it.

SpunGirl
11-28-2005, 04:17 PM
PS I keep hoping they'll come out with a Sims: Hot Porno Action version. That'd be cool.

-K

Wezas
11-28-2005, 04:21 PM
Spun I'm sure there's already mods available for that.

Nudity patch was amusing, to say the least.

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 04:21 PM
They've already got a vibrating bed. I'm sure theres a few user-made objects that can be downloaded along with that nude patch... :lol:

DeV
11-28-2005, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by SpunGirl
PS I keep hoping they'll come out with a Sims: Hot Porno Action version. That'd be cool.

-K :yes: I'm waiting for that expansion pack as well.

Wezas
11-28-2005, 04:26 PM
Skirm can make her swing.

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 04:26 PM
"Group Activity"

SpunGirl
11-28-2005, 04:28 PM
It would probably lower your hygiene stats, though.

-K

DeV
11-28-2005, 04:32 PM
Well, yeah. lol

As long as it's done properly.

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 04:37 PM
Anyway... on those yellow potions... are those pretty easy to make?

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 04:37 PM
There's a mod that let's the Sims have sex anywhere in the house. I saw images of a couple getting nasty in the kitchen on the counter. :D

Wezas
11-28-2005, 04:38 PM
There are seperate executables that modify your game and keep all your bars green 24/7.

I'd link but I can't access gaming sites from work.

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Ebondale
Anyway... on those yellow potions... are those pretty easy to make?

The problem with the potion idea is that the potions that come out are random, so you have to hope you get lucky and make it right away. If not you'll get others that turn you into a zombie, get someone random to fall in love with you instantly (which is kinda funny) and others just as amusing. So if you're willing to make your Sim a test guinea pig, have fun!

MangledKitty
11-28-2005, 04:42 PM
Umm, there is a cheat you can do to simply delete the sim, the time goes by and you click on the sim again and he/she will come back fully maxed with green. I think it's ctrl, shift, C or something like that. Then you type in the green box up in the corner 'move objects_on' and then just hit enter. When your sim is in a really good mood then they will be more social, so after you do that you throw a party and invite your friends. Get a mic and you're all set for fame. :)

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 04:46 PM
How do you click on the Sim if you just deleted them? :?: But even if you did that, you would need to do that ever so often since they would lose green after a while, no?

Seems more of a bandaid if you ask me, and should look for something that will help him get greener faster. Neat idea though. Deleting then bringing back. Deleting them always worries me though cause what if you can't get them back. Sometimes starting over, especially on a Sim you liked is a pain.

[Edited on 11/28/2005 by CrystalTears]

Kainen
11-28-2005, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Ebondale
YOU EVIL.

:thumbsup:


Everything I know about killing Sims, my son taught me :D

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 04:48 PM
It's even meaner when you kill a sim who was living with someone. Then they keep returning to the urn or tombstone and sobbing like a baby for days.

Kainen
11-28-2005, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by CrystalTears
How do you click on the Sim if you just deleted them? :?: But even if you did that, you would need to do that ever so often since they would lose green after a while, no?

Seems more of a bandaid if you ask me, and should look for something that will help him get greener faster. Neat idea though. Deleting then bringing back. Deleting them always worries me though cause what if you can't get them back. Sometimes starting over, especially on a Sim you liked is a pain.

[Edited on 11/28/2005 by CrystalTears]

Just don't save when you kill em. Takes you right back to when you started that session.

MangledKitty
11-28-2005, 04:50 PM
How do you click on the Sim if you just deleted them? But even if you did that, you would need to do that ever so often since they would lose green after a while, no?


By the face tray at the bottom. A little star type thing will appear on it to show the sim has vanished. You click on their face and they come back. They won't lose their green if you let them do what they want. Sometimes just having it on free will helps.

[Edited on 11-28-2005 by MangledKitty]

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Wezas
There are seperate executables that modify your game and keep all your bars green 24/7.

I'd link but I can't access gaming sites from work.

Ah nuts, that would be really sweet!

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 05:03 PM
Heh, Kainen, I said deleting, not killing. I kill my Sims all the time. I meant when you delete them to gain green.

And thanks, MangledKitty. Didn't realize that the face portrait remained on the bottom. Something to try now. :D

FinisWolf
11-28-2005, 06:54 PM
I have a few links saved for downloaded items that have been hacked. If you can find the espresso machine in one of these links, or in some other link, that fills ALL your bars (Hunger, Sleep, etc etc) you will be able to go around the clock.

http://www.aroundthesims.com/index.html

http://sims.kelsha.net/

http://www.simfreaks.com/top.shtml

http://devoted.to/SIMale/

http://www.sylvan.com/~tigger/index.html

http://www.wilkaresfunsims.com/

*This one is the true hacker site, but it moved or was deleted, maybe try the wayback machine:

http://www.hackersresource.info/index.php?name=tutorials

Finis

CrystalTears
11-28-2005, 07:21 PM
Oh yeah! Not sure why I didn't mention it before. Around the Sims has the expresso machine. Actually she has a lot of food and beverage things that max out several of the bars on that site. That's a great site, I only go there for all my downloads for both Sim games.

Ebondale
11-28-2005, 08:58 PM
That espresso machine sounds really nice. I'm gonna need to get me one of those...

4a6c1
11-28-2005, 09:35 PM
I used to make Sims that looked like people i dont like and put them in a little 6 square room with no doors, a refridgerator and a clown picture and just watch them piss themselves and go crazy and finally cry in the corner. Super fun!

Drayal
11-28-2005, 09:45 PM
Jihna that's frightening in its similarity to what I used to do.
It's the only way to play it.

Satira
11-28-2005, 09:51 PM
I've been playing this a whole lot lately and booooy is it fun. I want a cheat that keeps all the stat bars full all the time though. So I can pursue a career path and not be annoyed.

Drayal
11-28-2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Satira
I've been playing this a whole lot lately and booooy is it fun. I want a cheat that keeps all the stat bars full all the time though. So I can pursue a career path and not be annoyed.

See the links previously posted. They might work out.

Bobmuhthol
11-28-2005, 09:53 PM
Or just learn how to hack.

Satira
11-28-2005, 10:01 PM
I wish I could hack! :grin:

Wezas
11-28-2005, 10:02 PM
My wife played at one point. She multi-tasked away and her sim ended up burning herself to death in a fire.

She was then, of course, haunted by the ghost of her sim when she created a new one.

She stopped playing.

FinisWolf
11-28-2005, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Satira
I've been playing this a whole lot lately and booooy is it fun. I want a cheat that keeps all the stat bars full all the time though. So I can pursue a career path and not be annoyed.

That espresso machine makes that retardely easy. And hell, there is the computer that you can use to change professions, and you will max each job in a matter of days. The computer also raises several stats.

Finis

FinisWolf
11-28-2005, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Satira
I wish I could hack! :grin:

There are some guides and programs out there for free to hack the sims items. It's actually rather easy.

Finis

Ebondale
11-29-2005, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by FinisWolf

Originally posted by Satira
I've been playing this a whole lot lately and booooy is it fun. I want a cheat that keeps all the stat bars full all the time though. So I can pursue a career path and not be annoyed.

That espresso machine makes that retardely easy. And hell, there is the computer that you can use to change professions, and you will max each job in a matter of days. The computer also raises several stats.

Finis

I must have the espresso machine and computer... can't find them in the links... distraught. >_<

FinisWolf
11-29-2005, 01:29 AM
I will see if I can open the .exe's and find a link for you. Won't be anytime soon though.

Finis

Ebondale
11-29-2005, 12:46 PM
I couldn't find the things... thanks a lot! :)

FinisWolf
11-29-2005, 04:27 PM
Bumped to help remind me to look at this when I get home.

Finis

CrystalTears
11-29-2005, 04:31 PM
http://www.aroundthesims.com/objects/food_15.html

Description:

The Mood-Boosters are new objects that allow you to cheat a little bit with your game, but still with glory... *lol*
You can buy a drink for 250 that will restore all your Sims needs bars to 100 (ie they will be completly green again), or you can buy a drink at 25 that will fill your Sims needs to 10 (a little more than the middle, so your Sims will be just between red and green; bars that are already in green won't be affected by the drink).
They are categorized to appear in Appliance/Other, and in Misc/Appliance on non-residence lots.
These objects can only be used by adults.
They have been specially designed to match MagicLand theme, in Makin'Magic, but no expansion pack is needed to use them. :)

Satira
11-29-2005, 04:39 PM
Bonehilda does good work.

Ebondale
11-29-2005, 05:10 PM
Thats crap, though. They want people to pay real money for Sims items? O_o

CrystalTears
11-29-2005, 05:28 PM
You can donate to load more than of them at a time, or get bonus items, but for the most part all her items are free to download.

4a6c1
11-29-2005, 05:31 PM
You'll know you play this game too much when you start to relate things IRL to Sim game mechanics.

Its still funny to me to when I have to go pee to go UMPH UMPH MY BLADDER MUST BE GETTING RED UMPH!

FinisWolf
11-29-2005, 08:04 PM
Ok, I did some research, here are the results Ebondale:

Komki's Kannonball Express: (4th Item on Page)
Espresso (http://www.thesimszone.co.uk/files/index.php?Section=7&start=90)

The site where I got the PC is now up for sale so I utilized the WayBack Machine, and I am attaching their link to the site. Once at the site, click the Electronics [14] link, and it will be the first on the page. I tested the DL link, and it seemed to work as well:

WayBackMachine_pc (http://web.archive.org/web/20040610184107/home.online.no/~t-gimr/)

Best of Luck!

Finis

Ebondale
11-30-2005, 02:24 AM
I love you. ^_^

How do I actually install these so that they're playable in the game? ^_^

Sean of the Thread
11-30-2005, 02:35 AM
I tried out a trial period for Sims online. All I ended up doing was griefing people by standing in their kitchen at the expresso machine and kept drinking and drinking until I pissed all over the floor.

Ebondale
11-30-2005, 03:38 AM
Ohhhhh heh heh, I feel dumb. Theres installation instructions in the .zip file. :D

FinisWolf
11-30-2005, 03:54 AM
:grin:

And yes, the espresso machine is addictive, so be careful.

Finis

Ebondale
11-30-2005, 11:31 AM
Well, the espresso machine is pretty sweet. It fills up the entire Energy motivation bar in just a moment but doesn't affect anything else but the Bladder. :lol: C'est la vie.

Landrion
11-30-2005, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Xyelin
I tried out a trial period for Sims online. All I ended up doing was griefing people by standing in their kitchen at the expresso machine and kept drinking and drinking until I pissed all over the floor.

I dont know why I found that funny. But it was great. Thanks for the laugh.

Kainen
11-30-2005, 05:02 PM
Thanks to you guys who posted the links I now have a gong.. that's right a GONG. There is so much to download that I been browsing Sims sites for the last couple of days! :heart: you guys for showing me where to get more stuff for my Sims!

FinisWolf
11-30-2005, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Ebondale
Well, the espresso machine is pretty sweet. It fills up the entire Energy motivation bar in just a moment but doesn't affect anything else but the Bladder. :lol: C'est la vie.

Use the computer, its a great tool. Basically, *if* my sim slept, he would get up, use the bathroom, hit the computer, and when needed hit the espresso machine.

There are also some nicely hacked doors out there. Hate that female sim screwing up your male sims stream? Get a door that allows males only, and visa versa. Also there are doors to keep everyone but your sim out, yet others that allow your sim to walk through and they are nude. Kid only doors.

Just do some searching, all kinds of great stuff!

Finis

~Sorry you didn't like the espresso machine.

FinisWolf
11-30-2005, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by Kainen
Thanks to you guys who posted the links I now have a gong.. that's right a GONG. There is so much to download that I been browsing Sims sites for the last couple of days! :heart: you guys for showing me where to get more stuff for my Sims!

Glad to help out. Enjoy.

Finis

Ebondale
12-04-2005, 01:14 PM
Oh noes! My Sim has three fame stars now (with a star friend network of 5.0) and I have an obsessed fan! A big fat white guy. >_<

This is so freaking fun! I wouldn't have figured out a dang thing about this game without you guys. Thanks a bunch! ^_^

EDIT: Blah, now I'm running into the problem of not being able to find any celebrity Sims in Studio Town other than Kirk Somebody (who is already my Sim's friend).

[Edited on 12-4-2005 by Ebondale]