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Lomoriond
07-14-2005, 08:02 PM
I have deleted all my posts from this thread.

Drew2
07-14-2005, 08:11 PM
What happened?

HarmNone
07-14-2005, 08:27 PM
Ummm...what Tayre said. What happened to get you so angry? Who done it, what was done, and when? Inquiring minds want to know. Even uninquiring minds are vaguely curious.

HarmNone
07-14-2005, 08:31 PM
Umm, was it people who post here who did this to you, or some unknowns?

What you describe doesn't sound right to me, either. If you were being harassed (and it sounds like you were, in both cases), it doesn't make much sense to brush you off like that. I thought WoW was supposed to have pretty good customer service, so I'm very curious as to what went awry here.

StrayRogue
07-14-2005, 08:36 PM
There's two sides to every story.

theotherjohn
07-14-2005, 08:41 PM
hope you feel better after the vent

no clue why you dont use names

theotherjohn
07-14-2005, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Lomoriond
Names: Kealin, level 37 (i think 38 now) female night elf rogue on the argent dawn server

Executer, level 34 male tauren warrior, also on argent dawn.


I don't see any purpose for naming names, but there they are!

others here play on many servers so names serves as a warning

StrayRogue
07-14-2005, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Lomoriond
Ah yes, her side of the story was that I was just freaking out about her being in the flag room and just swore at her for no good reason whatsoever... at least thats what I gathered from fourth party translation.

Til was supposed to tell me her side of the story because she's from a "sister guild" and it became some issue he had to work out with the other GL, or whatever, but I think he forgot.


The second guy was just being an asshole

A fourth party translation from whom? It better be a GM.

HarmNone
07-14-2005, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Lomoriond
Names: Kealin, level 37 (i think 38 now) female night elf rogue on the argent dawn server

Executer, level 34 male tauren warrior, also on argent dawn.


I don't see any purpose for naming names, but there they are!

Edited to say: I don't think anyone who posts here is one of these characters. I just felt like venting.

[Edited on 7-15-2005 by Lomoriond]

No problem. You're certainly free to vent here. I just wondered if anyone here was involved, since it's always helpful to hear both sides of any disagreement. It helps, sometimes, to clear up misunderstandings.

HarmNone
07-14-2005, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Lomoriond
It says clearly in the help tab that repeatedly attacking an NPC is not grounds for harrassment even if I feel unfairly treated in the situation. (its a loophole.. aren't they fun?)

As in the first case, because I made no complaint whatsoever at the initial bout of my 'harrassment" it was their impression I did not feel harrassed until the warning was issued to my account, and they do not issue account warnings for revenge and I should consider this matter closed.

[Edited on 7-15-2005 by Lomoriond]

Sounds like they're looking at the second case a lot like Simu does. If you don't complain in the beginning, they take it to be consented CvC, rather than unwanted PvP. To be honest, I can understand that stance. You have the tools to let the GMs know if you're being harassed. It's up to you to use them. Otherwise, you run the risk of being misunderstood if the situation escalates.

As to the first situation, sounds like their rules on that one might need a bit of refining.

HarmNone
07-14-2005, 09:33 PM
>>Either remove my warning or give her one too, but to just leave it as it stands now is complete bull shit. <<

Can you be sure she hasn't been given a warning? I doubt they'd tell you one way or the other.

StrayRogue
07-14-2005, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Lomoriond

Asstard #2 kept breaking my taming process (trying to tame a new pet, he'd walk up, smack it to get its attention, and run off). Laughing at me all the while. He then just up and killed the beast and left. I waited for it to respawn, and after I began trying to tame it again, he showed up from nowhere to kill it again (was a named spawn)

I reported him for harrassment, (read: any action specifically targeted to lessen the enjoyment of another player will be considered harrassment) and was told he was fully within his rights as a player to do this (told to go fuck myself again).

L -

It is within a players rights to kill any mob that they can.

StrayRogue
07-14-2005, 11:18 PM
In my opinion you've not really even explained the situation well. Both factions are involved so getting a translation from anyone beyond a GM or someone on their side with fraps is problematic at best. There's something beyond just telling someone to fuck off in WSG.

StrayRogue
07-14-2005, 11:37 PM
Then Asshat two is the tauren who was killing the mob you were trying to tame?

God I'm glad I don't have these problems on the none Care Bear servers.

And if you're going to be dumb to play the "ITS AGAINST MY ENJOYMENT" shit, why don't you say that to them next time you get pwned in PVP? On RP servers the primary element of exp is PvE. PLAYERS VERSUS CREATURES. You must be a fucking cretin if you think the GM's are going to give you the time of day for whining about some tauren killing a mob.

"OMG OMG I JUST DIED. Some rogue killed me while I was grinding. GMs GMs, I want my money back because some asshat just lessened my enjoyment on PURPOSE. WAH WAH WAH".

God.

Edaarin
07-14-2005, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by Lomoriond
I just garnished from their response that no warning was given

:lol:

Sorry, I have to be an asshole for a minute. You mean garner, not garnish.

StrayRogue
07-14-2005, 11:49 PM
I'm not the one whining on a message board about how much I suck on the Care Bear server of WoW. If you don't like it or how they handle their policy, QUIT. DON'Y PLAY AGAIN.

StrayRogue
07-14-2005, 11:51 PM
Go here and buy this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001CJCG0/qid=1121399438/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_ur_1/103-0292640-5760633?v=glance&s=videogames&n=507846

You'll have to try hard to suck badly at this game.

longshot
07-14-2005, 11:54 PM
I don't play Wow, but I kinda have to agree with Stray.

Also, posting an insanely one-sided account of things in your initial post doesn't exactly help your cause on these boards.

In the words of the Govenator,...

"Stop Whining!"

Hulkein
07-14-2005, 11:56 PM
Hey, I'm a police officer.

longshot
07-14-2005, 11:57 PM
:violin:

I think violin says it all...

Stunseed
07-15-2005, 12:00 AM
< dunderpates >

50 points for the usage of this word. Even though it makes you sound like Monty Burns from the Simpsons.

Betheny
07-15-2005, 12:09 AM
1. You stole my word.

2. There are jerks everywhere, in life, in games, etc. You control your game. The beauty of Warcraft is /ignore and leaving groups. You don't have to be around those people. I hate an uncountable amount of people on Argent Dawn, and it's really, really rare I ever run into them or hear from them.

But really, if you cannot control your reactions (Which I seldom do, when I go off... bad things happen) then maybe you shouldn't play.

I'm considering a change of venue for my gaming fun, as well. The only thing that keeps me here is that there are some folks that depend on me and some folks that make it worthwhile to stay. And the thought of being an utter noob at another game is a little daunting.

Wezas
07-15-2005, 12:29 AM
There is a reason games have a disclaimer "Game Experience May Change During Online Play". And this is part of it.

Betheny
07-15-2005, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by Wezas
There is a reason games have a disclaimer "Game Experience May Change During Online Play". And this is part of it.

That and the whole... man plays lesbian night elf quotient.

Nieninque
07-15-2005, 03:39 AM
:rofl:

Artha
07-15-2005, 06:39 AM
there are some folks that depend on me
I depend on you to make up swears.

StrayRogue
07-15-2005, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Hulkein
Hey, I'm a police officer.

LMAO.

You son of a bitch.

longshot
07-15-2005, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Lomoriond

You're a fucking moron if you REALLY think my issue is with the players themselves.

....

I will bow out of the discussion... I am finished venting.

You're finished? That's great.

I'm glad you're over this, and realize that you sound like a real putz. Thank you for saving us from having to point this out.





Originally posted by Lomoriond
After giving this matter careful thought, I have come to many realizations.

*this is really just a bunch more of my whiny shit, but it does explain my thoughts on the matter.

The first realization is that this is not a game of 2-3,000 accounts policed by a handful of GMs who get to know problem cases and actually give a rats ass about the game (the gemstone I used to know and love). This is a game of hundreds of thousand of accounts which are policed by people who may not even enjoy playing the game, it is quite fruitless to expect a GM in WoW to make any effort whatsoever to enforce the TOU, aside from what is placed in front of them and easy to spot as a violation.

I am unsure anymore of what I really wanted from the situation, only that I felt the GMs treated me unfairly. Grey areas cause that, and with the sheer volume of STDW, I no longer blame them for ignoring my complaints.

The second realization is that people like strayrogue, kealin and executer are just a few of many people whose idea of fun differs greatly from mine and obviously involves making OTHER people miserable. By getting upset, I only encourage this obnoxious behavior and feel quite foolish for allowing myself to get drawn into this ignorance.

For some reason, certain individuals believe that anyone who doesn't care to be stabbed in the back by some ?? conned rogue mid hunt every 30 minutes MUST be a pansy bitch ass care bear mother fucker. I apologize for not sharing your fascination with ganking and being ganked, and apologize once more for not having the intellectual capacity of a 13 yr old who gets a stiffy every time he murders someone in an imaginary world.

You have just as much right to enjoy your style of play as I do to enjoy mine. Just like you have just as much right to declare my preferred style of play as pansy ass care bear while I call yours ignorant and immature.

That said, that is the true ideals behind creating seperate server styles. So that those who enjoy different styles of gameplay do not have conflicting interests in game.

I am well within my rights as a consumer to take offense to PvP server behavior on an RP server. You do not have to agree with that, but you can blow it out your ass if you don't.

The third realization is that I have placed too much emphasis into escaping reality again. I am not healthy psychologically due to traumatic events in the recent past , and suddenly see that I have once again immersed myself in an activity to distract myself from the real world. I will not be "quitting" world of warcraft, but I will be spending a lot less time playing it.

Sometimes when we feel as if we cannot control our own lives, we try our best to control the lives of those around us, or to escape into a world we CAN control. When that control begins slipping, it is a knee jerk reaction to get emotional and/or upset about it, which has resulted in this thread.

While Executer was being an asshole, theres nothing I can do to stop that.

While the situation with Kealin was blown out of proportion and twisted unjustly, there is still nothing I can do to undo that.

While strayrogue was being a bitch about how my play style MUST be inferior, he is entitled to his opinion and theres nothing I can do about that.

There will be assholes, there will be injustice, but in the end, the game is just the game.

To any who actually read this all the way through, I thank you for at least trying to take the time to understand me a little better, and apologize for being such a loud pain in the ass.

I will not subject any of you to my venting in the future and actually hope a moderator would be so kind as to delete this entire thread as it has run its course.

L -

Hmm...

Normally, a thread will have a few more pages before we reach this level of sadness.

I would try to help, but I feel that without an additional 4 years of graduate level education and the ability to prescribe medication, there's just not a whole hell of a lot that I can do...



[Edited on 7-18-2005 by HarmNone]

[Edited on 7-19-2005 by HarmNone]

SayGoodbye
07-15-2005, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
Go here and buy this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001CJCG0/qid=1121399438/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_ur_1/103-0292640-5760633?v=glance&s=videogames&n=507846

You'll have to try hard to suck badly at this game.

I like Spyro. :(

Hulkein
07-15-2005, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue

Originally posted by Hulkein
Hey, I'm a police officer.

LMAO.

You son of a bitch.

Heh, what was that? From the soundboard?

I think we heard the same crank call.

07-16-2005, 10:36 AM
Yep.. I just read that.. I started laughing that the police officer comment.. Fucking perfect, Grobags... Fucking perfect.

- Arkans