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    Quote Originally Posted by Naosalty af
    Hello, folks!

    I have some updates to share with you on what we've been working on with the new Enchant spell that we released a couple of weeks ago. The team put a lot of collective effort into discussing the feedback we've received and these updates should help to make for a smoother transition into using the new spell.

    First, I've resolved some general issues that were reported about the new spell.

    Successful casts of the new Enchant spell now award experience based on how much essence you have spent; the top end of this is a bit under 1000 experience scaling down to zero.

    There were some situation where the bonus of shields was incorrectly including the base +20 bonus which shields inherently provide which should now be resolved.

    We've been working on some changes with how scripted item difficulty is determined to be more consistent going forward and the Enchant spell has been updated to implement these changes. You may find the difficulty to enchant some scripted items has increased as a result.

    Second, we spent a lot of time discussing the various aspects of transitioning from the old enchanting system to the new Enchant spell. The goal is to have players move over to using the new spell while letting the old system stroll off into the sunset with dignity.

    That said, we understand that players have dedicated considerable effort by infusing mana into temper potions and planning long term projects and we absolutely do not want to invalidate those efforts.

    To address this, wizards will have the choice to either continue using the old enchanting system for up to one additional year (until MAY 18 2020) to have the opportunity to make use of infused potions and the like. If this is not desirable, the wizard may opt out of old enchanting system extension by completing an enchantment using the new spell. Wizards will accumulate essence for enchanting normally regardless of their choice.

    Any enchantments a player may have completed with the new spell before the release of these updates will not count for these purposes. The first successful cast of the new Enchant spell will opt the player out of using the old enchanting system. There is a prominent warning about this when you CHANNEL the spell about this that will require you to CHANNEL the spell a second time to confirm the action.

    For Wizards who do opt in to using the new Enchant spell, the option to trade in potions (either those for projects beyond 7x or the elemental pre-temper potions) or to drink infused potions to gain some essence will still be available in the very near future in the same capacity as originally released.

    NOTE: Elemental pre-temper potions (zorveneh, gorveneh, rhiveneh, draveneh) should NOT be poured on items for use with the new Enchant spell. This was supported before these updates but going forward these potions must be traded in for potions intended for use with the new spell.

    NOTE: Trading in high-tier temper and pre-temper potions and drinking infused potions is NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. Drinking temper potions will not reduce doses until this feature goes live, so there should be no fear of unintentionally doing so. I expect to wrap up these features over the upcoming weekend and release them as soon as possible.

    Finally, we spent a lot of time discussing approaches to bring warrior mages back into the enchanting fold.

    Wizards will find that slaying a creature of an appropriate level will contribute to the total mana spent against that creature as if they had spent mana casting spells. The amount is dependent on the relative level of the creature to the player. Mana spent casting offensive spells at these same creatures will contribute to the total mana spent against that creature as a bonus on top of the contribution for slaying the creature. If the player's contribution to killing a particular creature is less than half of all player contribution to that kill there is only a chance that the kill will be eligible in this manner.

    Note that all other aspects of gaining essence continue to function as originally described. The mana spent generates some amount of static essence and some of that static essence is absorbed as essence for enchanting on a mana pulse.

    Thank you for your patience as we work to make this update to enchanting something we can all appreciate and enjoy.

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    Naos
    http://forums.play.net/forums/GemSto...et_newest=true

    tl;dr:
    you can now keep using the old system for a year, once you do your first enchant with the new system it locks you in to ONLY the new system. you still accrue essence normally (from this point forward, if you did newstyle previously you're still good)
    you now get some amount of bonus static for killing the creature (if you don't get full kill credit, you only have a "chance" to get static, looking at you reim)
    the way it reads that is still treated as "static" genned for that thing, so it would still be subject to the max static per creature limit (whatever that is)
    for whatever god damn reason you still can't trade potions, and drinking potions doesn't work....but you know, like soon!
    everything else about essence gen, which is awful, is still the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donquix View Post
    everything else about essence gen, which is awful, is still the same.
    Why would you want to gain essence?!

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    To address this, wizards will have the choice to either continue using the old enchanting system for up to one additional year (until MAY 18 2020) to have the opportunity to make use of infused potions and the like. If this is not desirable, the wizard may opt out of old enchanting system extension by completing an enchantment using the new spell. Wizards will accumulate essence for enchanting normally regardless of their choice.
    This is fucking cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astray View Post
    This is fucking cancer.
    more or less

    just protip for most people, there's really no reason unless you really wanna jerk your tears off into something to stop using the old system any time before you've banked up the 4 week max of 64k essence. Obviously we don't know if there is a "you're completely full" message for essence in sense (i'd hope there is), but that is a little more than what is needed for a +50 enchant (62,400)

    So for at least a month, keep cranking out all them 1-4x projects and squeeze in another 5x or 6x on the old system without losing anything.
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    They honestly just need to stop.

    There's really nothing wrong with the "old" system except for the temper times. This would be pretty simple.

    If they really want to change enchanting they should just totally change it. Like going with a recipe system for different kinds of enchants.


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    This is the most convoluted shit I’ve ever seen them release, I think.

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    Wouldn't the simpler solution have been to allow pocket mages to keep doing enchants with potions and tempers, but allow mages who actually hunt regularly to gain (enchanting essence) via combat .. so have two options to enchant depending on your hunting style?

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    I had to read it 3 times to understand. MAN
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    So, the next thing to test is how much "essence" you get from straight killing. I can do this on the test server later today or tomorrow.

    It "should" help with essence generation if we now get static from casting offensive spells, AND essence from the actual kill.

    Maybe that's why they didn't change the actual static to essence conversion formula.

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