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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashlander View Post
    You really can't see the difference between saying black people will vote for you because they love you versus saying if someone doesn't vote for you they're not black?
    Of course I see the difference.

    My reference was directly to PB’s words. Nothing else

    That if you make a statement and it’s based on skin color, it’s racists.
    That is bullshit.


    And we are all racists in some way or form, and we all discriminate all the same.. So does it really matter?

    Like my professor asked our class.
    It’s late at night, you are walking home alone. You have three equals paths to get home. Path 1 there are 4 Asian guys, path 2, there are 4 black guys, path 3, 4 white guys Which way do you go?
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    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Like my professor asked our class.
    It’s late at night, you are walking home alone. You have three equals paths to get home. Path 1 there are 4 Asian guys, path 2, there are 4 black guys, path 3, 4 white guys Which way do you go?
    Gonna need more information. Are the asians dressed like ninjas? Do the black guys have on hoodies? Are the white guys frat boys? If the answer is yes to any of the above I turn around and go back the way I came.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashlander View Post
    Gonna need more information. Are the asians dressed like ninjas? Do the black guys have on hoodies? Are the white guys frat boys? If the answer is yes to any of the above I turn around and go back the way I came.
    Hahahahaha! All of the above!
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    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashlander View Post
    Gonna need more information. Are the asians dressed like ninjas? Do the black guys have on hoodies? Are the white guys frat boys? If the answer is yes to any of the above I turn around and go back the way I came.
    Why can’t the black people be dressed like ninjas? Why can’t the Asians be frat boys, and the whites wear hoods?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    I just love the absolute double standard here.
    If Trump said those words, Tg01 and others would be lining up defending him, saying oh it was just a joke, dont take it seriously.

    Trump has a history of racism.
    1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.

    1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

    1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”

    He argued in 2016 that Judge Gonzalo Curiel — who was overseeing the Trump University lawsuit — should recuse himself from the case because of his Mexican heritage and membership in a Latino lawyers association. House Speaker Paul Ryan, who endorsed Trump, later called such comments “the textbook definition of a racist comment.”

    https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/122708...racism-history


    That’s just some of it. Tg01, why aren’t you shitting on trump for his racists comments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
    An hour later:
    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    I just love the absolute double standard here.
    If Trump said those words, Tg01 and others would be lining up defending him, saying oh it was just a joke, dont take it seriously.
    No I wouldn't. Republicans don't think they own the black vote, Democrats do, Biden was just dumb enough to say it out loud.

    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Trump has a history of racism.
    1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.

    1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

    1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”

    He argued in 2016 that Judge Gonzalo Curiel — who was overseeing the Trump University lawsuit — should recuse himself from the case because of his Mexican heritage and membership in a Latino lawyers association. House Speaker Paul Ryan, who endorsed Trump, later called such comments “the textbook definition of a racist comment.”

    https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/122708...racism-history


    That’s just some of it. Tg01, why aren’t you shitting on trump for his racists comments?
    That's all just Trump joking.

    Also don't cite Vox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Why can’t the black people be dressed like ninjas? Why can’t the Asians be frat boys, and the whites wear hoods?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    How is him saying, You’re not black unless you vote for him” racists exactly?
    Because by definition of the word “racists” it’s not.

    Racists: a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

    Wow he lied, every politician lies, what is your point?
    Would it make more sense if he said, "If your skin is black, you'll vote democrat."?

    That's pretty much the same thing he said, but using different words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    No I wouldn't. Republicans don't think they own the black vote, Democrats do, Biden was just dumb enough to say it out loud.



    That's all just Trump joking.

    Also don't cite Vox.

    Joking or not joking, doesn’t mean it wasn’t racists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Racist and racists are two different words, you know.

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