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    http://www.usdebtclock.org/
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    "Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black."
    -Superracist, Joe Biden

    “If you don’t believe in free speech for people who you disagree with, and even hate for what they stand for, then you don’t believe in free speech.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    So I asked you, to list things Trump is accused of, that the democrats have done. You share a list, which shows absolutely nothing in common, you get called out on it. You then double down and said it is the same! Now you are saying, it’s not the same, it’s far worse!

    Keep moving that goalpost.
    Do your own research. If you want to be ignorant and not believe your own eyes of what has occurred over the past 6-7 years... that's on you.

    You'll do what you do, and I'll do what I do.

    I gave you a list, you said not good enough.

    I pointed out worse things they did, you say not good enough.

    Therefore - there is no reason to debate this with you, because you are an ideological moron trying to use semantics to try and draw this out...

    My opinion - You're a moron for it. And I know the Democrat Party can count on you. Sadly, the rest of us have to live with you all.

    For a supposed Russian (or married into I think?) - and sometimes rational person who over the years has presented some good discussion - the fact you're clinging to the Democratic Party during this is astounding... Russians are usually up in your face about things, not bitches hiding behind false words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Sums it up perfectly buddy lol. If he tweeted anything opposite of what he tweeted, he would have alienated a fuck ton of Republican voters(not necessarily talking about you), which he can’t do in a primary.

    I bet you if it was a general election and he was the nominee, he sure as hell wouldn’t have tweeted that.
    I see your point and concede that there is certainly a strategic element to campaigning to with a primary vs a general election. Perhaps he would refrain from tweeting something like that if he happened to win the Republican nomination, but I don’t believe he is lying and/or just making that statement for the sole intent of campaign reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    but I don’t believe he is lying and/or just making that statement for the sole intent of campaign reasons.
    We will never know, unless he won the primary and stayed/changed his stance.
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    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaps View Post
    Do your own research. If you want to be ignorant and not believe your own eyes of what has occurred over the past 6-7 years... that's on you.

    You'll do what you do, and I'll do what I do.

    I gave you a list, you said not good enough.

    I pointed out worse things they did, you say not good enough.

    Therefore - there is no reason to debate this with you, because you are an ideological moron trying to use semantics to try and draw this out...

    My opinion - You're a moron for it. And I know the Democrat Party can count on you. Sadly, the rest of us have to live with you all.

    For a supposed Russian (or married into I think?) - and sometimes rational person who over the years has presented some good discussion - the fact you're clinging to the Democratic Party during this is astounding... Russians are usually up in your face about things, not bitches hiding behind false words.
    Nope, I’m not Russian at all, wife is and Russians aren’t usually up in your face about things, quite the opposite, generally speaking.

    What Trump is being charged with, the democrats have never done. It’s that simple, have they done other shit? Yes they have! Doesn’t change the fact that Trump is being charged with these crimes. The republicans control the house, they can open up all the investigations they want!

    During Trump’s presidency, im pretty sure the republicans controlled all 3 parts of the government, yet they didn’t open any investigations on all these horrible criminal acts the democrats did… strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
    An hour later:
    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Nope, I’m not Russian at all, wife is and Russians aren’t usually up in your face about things, quite the opposite, generally speaking.

    What Trump is being charged with, the democrats have never done. It’s that simple, have they done other shit? Yes they have! Doesn’t change the fact that Trump is being charged with these crimes. The republicans control the house, they can open up all the investigations they want!

    During Trump’s presidency, im pretty sure the republicans controlled all 3 parts of the government, yet they didn’t open any investigations on all these horrible criminal acts the democrats did… strange.
    Again - they did exactly what he did... if you can't read the links and see that, so be it.

    I meant "up in your face" as in fighting - not general practices. I could have been more clear on that.

    You really think with the Media, Social Media, and Intelligentsia working against him... he could have done much more?

    Last I'll say on this, because again - you're not going to change your mind... and the Democrats like their mindless drones. It's all good.

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    If you understand semantics - you'll get how this relates to the above conversation. Pretty hilarious.

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    Last edited by Shaps; 08-02-2023 at 05:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    During Trump’s presidency, im pretty sure the republicans controlled all 3 parts of the government, yet they didn’t open any investigations on all these horrible criminal acts the democrats did… strange.
    We are in new territory here for sure.

    FARA (Foreign Agents Relief Act) was enacted way back in 1938 to combat Nazi and communist propaganda. In November of 2019 the DOJ announced they would begin aggressively enforcing that act. Up until that point, FARA charges were incredibly rare and convictions were almost nonexistent. Since then the DOJ has been going hard in the paint with FARA charges on Trump’s allies. Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Tom Barrack…these are just a few names and in each they had very little evidence. How many Democrats have been charged with FARA violations? Why is our justice department refusing to bring these charges against Hunter Biden in spite of overwhelming evidence?

    I know you often hear whataboutism and such but when you see consistent and clear targeting of one political party & nothing happens on another in spite of information available to the public justifying an investigation, well that is what we mean by saying the DOJ has been politically weaponized.

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