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    Cool Tulsa Allowed to Give Speeding Tickets to Native Americans?

    In 2020, the US Supreme Court ruled that Oklahoma state courts could not prosecute Native Americans for crimes that they committed on native lands making up most of eastern Oklahoma. A Native American man who got a speeding ticket from Tulsa in 2018 wants his $150 back! A Federal Appeals court agreed with him. Tulsa says much more is at stake than the $150. The issue is whether or not Tulsa and the rest of eastern Oklahoma can enforce traffic laws against Native Americans.

    The U.S. Supreme Court has temporarily put the appeals court ruling on hold until next week, so that everybody will have time to file their arguments with the court.

    Should Native Americans have the right to police themselves on their native lands? It appears that the very old laws applicable to this situation are on the side of Native American drivers. What should happen is that Congress should take a few minutes to fix the law.


    In June, The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the Curtis Act no longer applies, meaning the City of Tulsa was not authorized to issue a speeding ticket to Hooper because he is a tribal citizen.

    Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt said he was hopeful the Supreme Court would overturn the decision and that he felt encouraged by the stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeR View Post
    In 2020, the US Supreme Court ruled that Oklahoma state courts could not prosecute Native Americans for crimes that they committed on native lands making up most of eastern Oklahoma. A Native American man who got a speeding ticket from Tulsa in 2018 wants his $150 back! A Federal Appeals court agreed with him. Tulsa says much more is at stake than the $150. The issue is whether or not Tulsa and the rest of eastern Oklahoma can enforce traffic laws against Native Americans.

    The U.S. Supreme Court has temporarily put the appeals court ruling on hold until next week, so that everybody will have time to file their arguments with the court.

    Should Native Americans have the right to police themselves on their native lands? It appears that the very old laws applicable to this situation are on the side of Native American drivers. What should happen is that Congress should take a few minutes to fix the law.
    I don’t know about this, but you know they have those Indian casinos in Oklahoma. About a decade ago I went out with some friends to Choctaw. I asked the cocktail waitress for a Coors Light, and she came back with a sissy Oklahoma beer (lower alcohol content law vs Texas). Then she said that would be $5. Dafuq? I’m gambling. You going to charge me for a beer? But ok, sure…whatever. Then I sat my ass down at a blackjack table, and the dealer told me I gotta put up an “ante” to play a hand that the House keeps. I said whaaaaat?!? You are telling me I’ve got pay for the pleasure of playing a negative odds game? I haven’t been back since and Vegas gets my money. Those eff’n Indians are greedy spiteful little bastards. Fuck them.

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    If this ruling gets upheld, it sounds like Native Americans will be able to drive how they want and park anywhere, and nobody will be able to do anything about it. They could park in the Chief of Police's reserved space! Everybody else will be subject to tickets. That's not right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeR View Post
    If this ruling gets upheld, it sounds like Native Americans will be able to drive how they want and park anywhere, and nobody will be able to do anything about it. They could park in the Chief of Police's reserved space! Everybody else will be subject to tickets. That's not right.
    Well FUCK THAT! Ship those indigenous native savages back to India where they belong.

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    Can we send them a bill for all that infrastructure we put in?
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