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Texas congressman says people who think 'prayers aren't cutting it' as a solution to gun violence 'don't believe in an almighty god who is absolutely in control of our lives.' 9 people died in a mass shooting in his district today.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/congressm...030928078.html
Reid: Many people argue that prayers aren't cutting it.
Self: Well, those are people that don't believe in an almighty god who has, who is absolutely in control of our lives.
Fucking hilarious.
Last edited by Solkern; 05-07-2023 at 02:16 AM.
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An hour later:Originally Posted by Neveragain
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nothing hilarious came out of that today. but for my .02 I believe that his intent was more to the likes of saying that those people/kids everyone involved were part of a bigger plan to help solve the situation. I just wonder when this stuff is going to come start to descend. I don't disagree with god has a plan as part of religion but.. i dunno what to say nothing hilarious though just a god man at a loss for words with that statement.
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It’s the fact he said that people who don’t think prayers do enough, don’t believe in god, which is absolutely bullshit.
Praying isn’t going to stop mass shooting, or solve anything. What exactly does praying do? Does it stop mass shootings? Does it make those that were killed come back? Tell me what does praying do?
Dude said praying is a solution to gun violence. That is laughable, and hilarious.
Last edited by Solkern; 05-07-2023 at 04:16 AM.
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Wasn't really interested in this, but because I couldn't find the full segment online... it got me looking into it.
1. The article is extremely misleading... He said the words, yes... but the minute of conversation before it for the interviewers lead in question (which she asked him about religion) is highly misleading.
-BTW... this is what some refer to as a "gotcha question"... She asked him, and introduced the topic of religion... blaming him for him providing an answer (Without providing the conversation/context of their discussion prior to the question) is simply to try to get an article like this circulating. Pretty dirty media trick, but done all the time.
-Until I see what they were discussing beforehand, this is just news hype to get people riled up.
They also don't focus on his comments after that regarding mental health, etc... they only focus on what they want you to focus on... all out of context.
2. The article itself doesn't even use his full quotes... they pick 5-10 words from a much longer statement, then write about it... then skip over to another 5-10 words, leaving out the connectors... then link it together with their commentary to make it appear a certain way.
3. The only long quote they put in the actual article, is the one where he is referencing Chicago... we don't know what in the conversation led to that, but he referenced multiple types/incidents of violence that concerned him, but they only highlighted what they wanted to.
I get most people are easily swayed... but if you don't know how to deconstruct information that is disseminated - you can make anything look the way you want.
If you watch his actual responses, and you're take away is that he's a mean dude hating on people... well... not sure what to tell you.
They also highlight at the end a very misleading statistic to further create the impression, or negative bias towards "the Right"... ""In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden," according to Third Way's report."
See how they used the term "States"? That's because it's Democrat run "Cities" in those States that account for those extreme numbers 90% of the time... but they can't say that, because that would go against the narrative.
The media is good at getting ignorant people to be swayed one way or another... you should watch out for that.
We're in the start-up phase of the election cycles... they will take anything they can and try to make people mad at each other.
Last edited by Shaps; 05-07-2023 at 05:52 AM.
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I'll give you the perfect example of how they frame it....directly from this article.
"Self also said he wanted to avoid making the tragic incident political but then pointed to the violence in "big cities" after being asked if he was concerned about the rise of violent incidents across the US."
See what they did?
By crafting the paragraph the way they did, it infers a negative connotation - of how he was making it political. Watch how it will sound different if done this way:
"After being asked if he was concerned about the rise of violent incidents across the US, Self cited numerous incidents of violence that concerned him greatly, but did not want to treat such tragic incidents as political".
See the difference?
And if you watch the actual clip... that is more akin to what he said... but they flip it, to get the reaction that they want to produce.
It's tricky stuff... but if you have ever dealt with, or been trained to know what to look for... it's pretty blatant.
Last edited by Shaps; 05-07-2023 at 05:44 AM.
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BTW... not only does this style of designed speech, constructed sentence structure, inference, word association, etc. work in media...
These are basic principles of interrogation and subterfuge. Again, not the most common career fields or disciplines for the majority... but if you know, you know.
If you actually care (and most don't)... but if you do, and once you notice it... you won't be able to un-see it.
Last edited by Shaps; 05-07-2023 at 05:43 AM.
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It's pretty sad that your average Christian honestly believes their choices don't matter because God makes all their choices, all the while listening to some uber-corrupt pastor whose stealing their earnings in the form of 'tithes' that fund a lavish lifestyle.
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Deluded religious person says dumb thing, Shaps bends over backwards to reframe the dumb thing to be slightly less insane, but fails miserable.
God granted free will to Man to make their own choices, with only his Words meant to guide through life. The Texas Congressman is convinced himself that if it is God's will, then his only son Jesus Christ will come down and stop the perpetrator of the mass shooting to protect 'good Christians', only of course that is bullshit and obviously no one happens. Yet these wackadoo Christians take a big 'ole dose of copium and tell themselves that 'it was God's will they die' or better yet, 'If they had been firmer in their beliefs, God would have protected them." This is honestly the bullshit the clergy and religious political figures have deluded Republicans into believing.
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Not worth the time for a full response. Move along MAP.
Last edited by Shaps; 05-07-2023 at 11:31 AM.
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WOW!! First you are the lead leftist democrat. now you are the leader of Christians and what they all believe? Do we need to bow to you? are you god? No you aren't so in the words of everyone talking to Sheldon GO AWAY!!! Seriously though man get a life, do you just spend 24 hours aday in your parents basement (or are your parents in your basement) talking crap you have no idea about and just trying to act smart but being dumber everytime you open your hole?
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