Things that made you laugh today (Political Version)

[Seizer]

[Tgo01]

This is false, at least in the case of my vehicle. The Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid provides better gas mileage than the ICE version, even when the battery is out.

I looked it up and that seems to be what the company and everyone says...but I'm skeptical. Also the Toyota Sienna gets 36 MPG, 6 more than the Pacifica Hybrid when only using gas.

The weight difference is 200 - 500 pounds, depending on the model of the ICE pacifica, which is kinda insignificant for the engine.

The fuel efficiency actually decreases by about 1% for every 100 pounds of weight, so that actually adds up.

[Gelston]

I looked it up and that seems to be what the company and everyone says...but I'm skeptical. Also the Toyota Sienna gets 36 MPG, 6 more than the Pacifica Hybrid when only using gas.



The fuel efficiency actually decreases by about 1% for every 100 pounds of weight, so that actually adds up.

I'm not comparing it against other makes and models, I'm comparing it against the same vehicle. Par tof it is, even when the electric engine is out, it still charges while regular driving and kicks on. I see it often enough when I'm driving, my current MPG will go from 32 to 99, which is when the electric is on.

[Tgo01]

"Closing more of the ocean to fishing could increase future catch by at least 20%."

Democrats ALWAYS do this shit.

"If you just do what WE say to do, then you'll get more of what you want anyways!"

Just look at their arguments:

If you legalize full term abortions then there will be fewer abortions!
If you open the borders then you get fewer illegal aliens!
If you outlaw capital punishment then it actually saves money!
If you outlaw guns it leads to fewer suicides and murders!
If you use less fertilizer then you'll get bigger crop yields!

If I didn't know any better, I would say Democrats just make shit up then hide behind "the science."

[ClydeR]

Because the battery is supplying the energy that turns the wheels. This is basically why there's no such thing as a perpetual motion machine. Some of that energy from the battery that turns the wheels is transferred to other forms of energy that can't be recaptured back to the battery IE friction, etc.

Are you saying that wind turbines are slowing down the earth's rotation?

[Shaps]

Damn.. that was pretty interesting. Will have to do some more research on my own. Knew it was getting silly, but I liked his focus on little known departments/concepts within the system being abused.

[Seran]

Because the battery is supplying the energy that turns the wheels. This is basically why there's no such thing as a perpetual motion machine. Some of that energy from the battery that turns the wheels is transferred to other forms of energy that can't be recaptured back to the battery IE friction, etc.

Are you saying that wind turbines are slowing down the earth's rotation?

The explanation of why the rotational energy of spinning tires can't be harnessed as we do turbines in hydroelectric and wind turbines boils down to efficiency. The hypothetical power produced using current technology wouldn't overcome the loss of kinetic energy already present between tire and road. To maintain a constant rate of speed the car is consuming more power than the electromagnets would produce. So introducing more drag would cause a further consumption of power.

Now when you're braking, a lot of hybrids make use of regenerative braking to use the heat caused by brake friction to generate usable electricity. That's existing technology which is getting better.

Your alternator is doing something akin to what Shaps inquired about to maintain a charge on your battery, transferring mechanical power via drive belts. So in a way it's been working in a limited sense for a while.

[drumpel]

I'm not seeing any real benefit by going electric over gas right now. You're generally going to pay more for an EV over a ICE vehicle and then the cost offset between the two, you won't see any savings until you've owned the EV for a lot of years.

[Tgo01]

I'm not seeing any real benefit by going electric over gas right now.

There really isn't much. People also tend to talk about electric as if electricity doesn't cost anything. It's certainly cheaper than gas (mostly because Democrats are seeing fit to increase gas prices as much as possible), but when you factor in electricity costs, especially if you're using a charging station which has a huge mark up, then you're only saving maybe a few hundred dollars a year in fuel savings. Considering electric vehicles are typically 5k-10k+ more expensive than ICE cars, you're investing a lot of money upfront to POSSIBLY break even many years down the line, that's assuming the battery doesn't die while out of warranty, or even factoring in that electric vehicles typically have higher repair costs than ICE vehicles.

Like I said earlier, if you mostly drive 20-30 miles a day, then a PHEV or an EV with a 30 mile range might save you some money in the long run, especially if you have a garage where you can easily use a standard outlet to charge these cars overnight. Other than that though, it's really not worth investing in an expensive electric vehicle with a 200+ mile range at the moment.

[Gelston]

There really isn't much. People also tend to talk about electric as if electricity doesn't cost anything. It's certainly cheaper than gas (mostly because Democrats are seeing fit to increase gas prices as much as possible), but when you factor in electricity costs, especially if you're using a charging station which has a huge mark up, then you're only saving maybe a few hundred dollars a year in fuel savings. Considering electric vehicles are typically 5k-10k+ more expensive than ICE cars, you're investing a lot of money upfront to POSSIBLY break even many years down the line, that's assuming the battery doesn't die while out of warranty, or even factoring in that electric vehicles typically have higher repair costs than ICE vehicles.

Like I said earlier, if you mostly drive 20-30 miles a day, then a PHEV or an EV with a 30 mile range might save you some money in the long run, especially if you have a garage where you can easily use a standard outlet to charge these cars overnight. Other than that though, it's really not worth investing in an expensive electric vehicle with a 200+ mile range at the moment.

It is a LOT cheaper for gas for me. I'm paying about $20 more for my electric bill and getting a 7500 tax rebate next April. I've only gone to the gas station while going on a long trip for vacation.

With full EVs being even cheaper on the upcoming model year, some starting in the 20s for a base model, yeah it is worth it for the majority of drivers.

If you often drive long distances, over 200 miles a day, yeah, it might not be for you just yet.