Terrorists break into US Capitol Building

[Tgo01]

And this has what to do with stealing from Peter to pay Paul?

Next you're going to tell us that Jesus was cool with prostitution because he stood up for a prostitute.

Or

Jesus was cool with theft because he spent his time with thieves.

Jesus hated blind people because he took away their blindness.

[Neveragain]

Jesus hated blind people because he took away their blindness.

Jesus obviously wanted to steal from rich people so they could get into heaven.

[Neveragain]

Activist student charged in attempted shooting of Kentucky mayoral candidate

The shooter walked into the Louisville office of candidate Craig Greenberg and squeezed off multiple shots, but the Democratic mayoral hopeful

Brown was a known activist who often wrote opinion pieces for The Courier-Journal. He was actively involved with the Youth Violence Prevention League, Black Lives Matter and an outspoken critic of police. He was also a registered candidate for Metro Council District 5.

Democrat candidate Greenberg is Jewish / City council candidate Brown is African American.

Media be like:

[Seran]

Bro I’m not getting in a Bible verse war with you or going to argue that one. Christ was not a socialist. Just trust me on that one…or don’t and choose to be ignorant.

Whoa, don't blame me for what's in the training manual! I trust you, but you need to get your bro Jesus to update his technical documents.

[Seran]

Christ was a monarchist.

And apparently felt the rich should give to the poor. At least that's what the Bible says. I know that charitable giving and piety, poverty and love have gone out the window with the Right. But you know, the Bible.

[Tgo01]

Democrat candidate Greenberg is Jewish / City council candidate Brown is African American.

Media be like:

They'll just find some way to blame Republicans anyways. Or never mention the race or affiliations of the shooter while mentioning a gazillion times that the victim was a Democrat and Jewish so they can imply the shooter was a right wing white supremacist.

[Gelston]

And apparently felt the rich should give to the poor. At least that's what the Bible says. I know that charitable giving and piety, poverty and love have gone out the window with the Right. But you know, the Bible.

Yes, it is called bread and circuses. Keeps the peasants in line.

Elon Musk gave over 5.7 billion dollars to Charity. Damn dirty charitable rich people....

Also, I'm pretty sure most of the people on these forums have given to the less fortunate. That isn't socialism.

[Neveragain]

And apparently felt the rich should give to the poor. At least that's what the Bible says. I know that charitable giving and piety, poverty and love have gone out the window with the Right. But you know, the Bible.

[Suppressed Poet]

Whoa, don't blame me for what's in the training manual! I trust you, but you need to get your bro Jesus to update his technical documents.

If you must know, as I can tell your genuine about religious study…. The statement about the difficulty of the rich to enter Heaven is because it’s a sin to worship false idols. If you are wealthy and have many worldly possessions there exists a strong temptation to put your own will ahead of God’s. That verse was not in any way saying that rich people are inherently immoral.

Also by any standard of measure today, we are all wildly rich compared to even Tiberius Caesar Augustus of his time.

Also also this is why we have priests, religious scholars, and Sunday school…so some jackasses on the PC don’t come up with their own twisted misinterpretation of scripture and spread heresy.

[time4fun]

If you must know, as I can tell your genuine about religious study…. The statement about the difficulty of the rich to enter Heaven is because it’s a sin to worship false idols. If you are wealthy and have many worldly possessions there exists a strong temptation to put your own will ahead of God’s. That verse was not in any way saying that rich people are inherently immoral.

Also by any standard of measure today, we are all wildly rich compared to even Tiberius Caesar Augustus of his time.

Also also this is why we have priests, religious scholars, and Sunday school…so some jackasses on the PC don’t come up with their own twisted misinterpretation of scripture and spread heresy.

I'll start by acknowledging that I just argued that we need to remove the morality conversations from this so we can address it like a policy issue, as we should be. And nothing I'm about to say is actually relevant to how we should approach poverty as a nation.

But as a woman of faith, I feel it's my duty to point out that there were a hand full of topics that Jesus was excruciatingly clear on and a whole bunch of topics that were of zero interest to Him.

Jesus did not mince words on how we are to treat the poor, and He had no real concern with trying to figure out if those in need were "deserving" of help or not. Being in need was the same thing as being deserving in His eyes. And the New Testament is riddled with scripture on the subject. I mean Luke alone makes the point abundantly clear. And the Old Testament is just as lucid on the topic- if not more so. We were instructed not to harden our hearts to the poor, we were instructed to defend the rights of the poor and needy, and Jesus very explicitly told us to sell what we have and give to the poor. Those with two coats must share with those who have none. There are no caveats to that. No carve outs. God decides who shall be judged- not us. And He was very clear that those of us who turn from the poor will be judged.

The other topic, always worth noting, is how we were commanded to treat immigrants. New Testament and Old, we were given clear instructions to treat them as we would treat God. We are not to wrong or oppress a resident alien, and the alien who resides among us is to be treated as a citizen. We were told in no uncertain terms that the mark of a true Christian is our willingness to extent our hospitality to strangers. And that's for VERY good reason by the way. The apostles often faced persecution for spreading the word of God in foreign lands, or even their own. Paul may have told us to play nice with the Roman government, but Paul understood very well that even as a citizen you risked forced deportation for spreading non-Roman religions. And it was the hospitality of strangers in foreign lands who allowed early Christians to spread the word of God.

Notably Jesus was completely silent on the issues of same sex relations and abortion- both of which were very much going on in His time.

So if you do want to play the Scripture game, I have to be honest: you're not starting in a strong position. And your reading of the famous Camel/Eye of the Needle verse comes across as extremely strategic.