Michigan DA politicizing school shooting tragedy by charging parents

[drauz]

A single count of murder in Michigan carries mandatory life in prison without the possibility of parole. No other political charges need to be brought forth for this.



That's according to the DA. The father said he had his firearms locked up. The shooter is 15, he can figure out a combination or find a key or heck even look up YouTube videos on how to pick a lock, it's not like he was 7. We shall see what evidence the DA provides at court of course, which I'm guessing in the case of the guns not being secured is a whole no evidence other than a police officer said it was true.

It also begs the question though: how many parents lock up their car keys when they have children in the house? I'm guessing the number is close to zero, yet if a kid takes their parents' car keys and goes on a killing spree with a car like the black supremacist did in Wisconsin, would anyone really be demanding the parents be charged with involuntary manslaughter? Probably not because most adults realize that could be them sitting in prison right now. But a gun was used? Well that's just those gun nuts who would be locked up, that's not me!

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, are you saying they seem like good parents?

[Tgo01]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, are you saying they seem like good parents?

Being a bad parent doesn't deserve jail time. If that were the case the jails would be filled with bad parents.

[drauz]

Being a bad parent doesn't deserve jail time. If that were the case the jails would be filled with bad parents.

Being a bad enough parent that potentially leads to 4 people being murdered might though.

[rolfard]

Being a bad enough parent that potentially leads to 4 people being murdered might though.

But all murderers have parents (pre year 2029)

[Jeril]

I hope they can charge the kid with whatever they need to so that he never breaths another breath outside prison. Terrorism is a reach but it might stick, I'm doubtful though. The parents just seem like really bad parents, they didn't secure the firearm they bought for their kid it seemed, like at all. I wouldn't be surprised if his drawings weren't the first time he tried to "get help". I would bet the parents knew he was fucked in the head but just didn't want to either believe it or deal with it.

Why do you have such strong feelings against a kid who had such a screwed up life that he went and killed some people? And where is the outrage that we as a society let things get so bad? While he does deserve to get punished and strongly, life in prison just seems wasteful to me. He'll never get anywhere close to being able to make up for what he did, but keeping him behind bars his whole life will keep him even further from that. Of course as messed up as our prison system is hard telling if this young man will be able to come to the right conclusions about his life and make any changes for the better.

[drauz]

Why do you have such strong feelings against a kid who had such a screwed up life that he went and killed some people? And where is the outrage that we as a society let things get so bad? While he does deserve to get punished and strongly, life in prison just seems wasteful to me. He'll never get anywhere close to being able to make up for what he did, but keeping him behind bars his whole life will keep him even further from that. Of course as messed up as our prison system is hard telling if this young man will be able to come to the right conclusions about his life and make any changes for the better.

I don't like murderers? From my original message I would bet that the problem lies with the parenting. I feel like the kid probably had tried to reach out for help but the parents waved it off, I don't have proof it's just a hunch. Time will tell when the prosecution goes through discovery.

I really only think it's a waste in the sense of money the state will have to spend to incarcerate him. He murdered 4 people, 4 people who will never grow up and live their lives. He forfeited his own when he ended theirs unjustly.

[Seran]

Why do you have such strong feelings against a kid who had such a screwed up life that he went and killed some people? And where is the outrage that we as a society let things get so bad? While he does deserve to get punished and strongly, life in prison just seems wasteful to me. He'll never get anywhere close to being able to make up for what he did, but keeping him behind bars his whole life will keep him even further from that. Of course as messed up as our prison system is hard telling if this young man will be able to come to the right conclusions about his life and make any changes for the better.

You're assuming an awful lot about this kid's home life. I mean, his parents just bought him a gun and Mom was joking with him in a text about not getting caught by his murder munitions. Evidence being his parents were at least woefully chill. And hopefully he will realize the error of his ways and become a model prisoner for multiple non parolable consecutive life sentences.

[Tgo01]

I mean, his parents just bought him a gun

Millions of parents have bought guns "for" their children and fewer than .01% have killed people. You're being retarded as per usual.

Mom was joking with him in a text about not getting caught by his murder munitions.

"Murder munitions." Seriously just shut the fuck up.

You're looking at this with the benefit of hindsight. Literally nothing the DA has provided in terms of "evidence" suggests the parents knew anything like this was going to happen. Oh no! She told her son not to get caught Googling shit at school! She KNEW he was going to shoot up the school!

You are literally the worst person ever.

[rolfard]

Charging the parents of murder suspects for bad parenting could set a precedent that would lead to future arrests of 'bad parents' that would disproportionately target those in the lowest socioeconomic groups to a higher degree.

In this case the school was concerned with the behavior of the child and the safety of other student's enough that they called the parents in. At that point the school is then the "expert" advising the parents that they should take action. When the parents didn't take action, the school chose to send the 'dangerous' student that literally wrote a letter a teacher saw that said "help..." back to class. The school and those in charge should be held as responsible if not more since they are specifically trained to recognize and act on red flags.

Hard to read. https://everytownresearch.org/report...ren-and-teens/

[Tgo01]

When the parents didn't take action, the school chose to send the 'dangerous' student that literally wrote a letter a teacher saw that said "help..." back to class. The school and those in charge should be held as responsible if not more since they are specifically trained to recognize and act on red flags.

It really irks me how people are ignoring the school's role in this simply because the DA chose to charge the parents.

The district superintendent even said the school counselor was trained for this and was an expert and yet this trained expert said the student wasn't a danger to himself or to others and that it was safe for him to go back to class. Oh but oh no! The non-expert parents didn't consult their spirit guide that morning because they should have known more than the expert.