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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Prosecution is doing so poorly they are trying to get a mistrial so they can start over again with a fresh jury.

    If things weren't so bat shit insane right now this guy would be fired immediately after this trial. But since his bosses are all Democrats and he's pushing the Democrat agenda he'll probably get a promotion.
    No, the Defense was asking for a mistrial. They probably wouldn't attempt to bring up charges again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    No, the Defense was asking for a mistrial. They probably wouldn't attempt to bring up charges again.
    It would be better to just get an acquittal than a mistrial. That way this is done and settled and doesn't hang over him the rest of his life as a threat. Maybe a misdemeanor with a fine and time served, no loss of rights, no BS and be done with this circus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~ View Post
    It would be better to just get an acquittal than a mistrial. That way this is done and settled and doesn't hang over him the rest of his life as a threat. Maybe a misdemeanor with a fine and time served, no loss of rights, no BS and be done with this circus.
    There are two charges he is getting found guilty on regardless. A mistrial prevents this. Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18 and the curfew violation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    There are two charges he is getting found guilty on regardless. A mistrial prevents this. Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18 and the curfew violation.
    Curfew was thrown out in court and the possession could be a misdemeanor depending on how they want to go. After this trial, the prosecutor is in serious enough trouble, he needs to seek a plea at best. This circus needs to end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    No, the Defense was asking for a mistrial. They probably wouldn't attempt to bring up charges again.
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~ View Post
    It would be better to just get an acquittal than a mistrial. That way this is done and settled and doesn't hang over him the rest of his life as a threat. Maybe a misdemeanor with a fine and time served, no loss of rights, no BS and be done with this circus.
    I heard from a friend that the request was for a mistrial with prejudice, which apparently means he can never be tried for it by the state again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage View Post
    I heard from a friend that the request was for a mistrial with prejudice, which apparently means he can never be tried for it by the state again.
    That makes a lot more sense because otherwise a mistrial is exactly what the prosecution wants right now. They must realize how badly this is going for them, a fresh jury with possibly a new judge is their best hope.

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    Definite acquittal on all but the dangerous weapon charge. Unsure of the nuances of that one bc there is some hunting provision that I don't know enough about. I'm calling it now

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    Apparently the weapon charge is worth 9 mo in jail, misdemeanor and so on since he was a minor at the time. Like I said, fine and time served.
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    Kyle Rittenhouse sobbing shows what's wrong with America

    An actual adult and presumably someone in control of their mental faculties actually wrote this article.

    The fuck is wrong with the Democrat media?

    Kyle Rittenhouse, in an unusual move for a defendant, took the witness stand Wednesday. He cried. His defense team then made a motion for a mistrial with prejudice, which means Rittenhouse couldn’t be retried. But whatever the court rules, he has already won.

    He’s charged with ​​reckless homicide, intentional homicide and attempted intentional homicide for shooting three people (killing two of them) who were protesting the police shooting of yet another Black man, Jacob Blake, in Kenosha, Wisconsin, last summer. The protest followed many George Floyd-inspired ones that erupted across the world calling for police accountability and justice for Black lives. White allies, like the ones Rittenhouse shot, were among the protesters. Rittenhouse has pleaded not guilty.

    If Rittenhouse is convicted, he will likely stop being a right-wing mascot and become a right-wing martyr. If he isn’t convicted, he will set a precedent for others like him to pick up guns they shouldn’t have and thrust themselves into the middle of unrest they should avoid — confident in knowing that prison won’t be in their future.

    To his supporters, and even many of his detractors, Rittenhouse isn’t a monster. Not really. He was a young, dumb kid hyped up on the Foxification or Fox News effect of American discourse on the Black Lives Matter movement in a country that fetishes guns — for show, for sport and for killing — not a white supremacist, like, say Dylann Roof. Not really. He wore no hoods and didn’t wrap himself in the Confederate flag. He’s a patriot who tried to bring calm to chaos because, as Fox News prime-time host Tucker Carlson told us at the time of the shooting, the adults around him wouldn’t “maintain order.” He was so nonviolent that police officers greeted him and those like him like fellow guardians of the community before he killed anyone.

    He didn’t open fire until absolutely necessary. It was “self-defense,” his supporters have told us outside the courtroom and his lawyers have argued inside the courtroom. Had “criminals,” whom many of us prefer to call Rittenhouse’s victims — though the judge said they can’t be called that during the trial — not rushed him, had not provoked him, they would be alive and he would never have been charged. None of his decisions before the moments he pulled the trigger seem to matter. He defended himself. That’s all.

    I mean, look at his red, tear-stained face on the stand, so compelling that the judge stopped the trial for 10 minutes to allow Rittenhouse to compose himself. His tears tell the story.

    Those protesters made him shoot them. It was their fault, and only theirs, not Rittenhouse’s. He was trying to do good, to protect this dying nation.

    And that’s the same nonsense claim people have been using throughout the U.S.

    Predominantly white voters were trying to defend their freedom, so they flocked to an open bigot like Donald Trump and stormed the U.S. Capitol. Angry parents, most of them white, are storming school board meetings demanding an end to critical race theory lessons to protect white children from feeling “guilt” about America’s violent racist history and how it has created the foundation of inequity we still see today. Politicians and local officials — again, many of them white — have stoked this by framing the teaching of race and books that explore its context as something constituents should defend their communities from.

    The truth is that too many white Americans probably see themselves in Rittenhouse — afraid of anyone, whether white or of color, who wants to live in a more equitable country — even if some don’t want to say so out loud.

    So many things have pointed to their being “scared” as Rittenhouse was described to have been during the protest and in the aftermath of the shooting. Frightened of losing the country their hardworking salt-of-the-Earth parents and grandparents built. Of becoming a minority among minorities. Of being displaced as the de facto right way to be a real patriotic American, of being able to define just what that means. But it wasn’t just fear that convinced Rittenhouse that he had a right — a responsibility, even — to take a gun into the middle of unrest that didn’t directly affect him. It was an entitlement, as well. An entitlement to make and uphold the rules, to make America great again.

    Rittenhouse’s story is a microcosm of what America is facing, a perilous journey toward becoming something the world has never known: a fully functioning multiracial, multiethnic democracy emerging from the blood of slaves, the genocide of Native Americans and the notion that all men are created equal. No matter what you’ve heard or what you’ve been told, we aren’t there yet. We weren’t there on July 4, 1776. We weren’t there in 1865 in the smoke, ashes and shadow of the Civil War, and not even in the wake of the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act a half-century ago.

    If he is freed, the status quo of America’s flawed criminal justice system, in which white offenders are less likely to be convicted, can remain just a little bit longer, the inevitable merely delayed, if not denied. If he’s imprisoned, those sympathetic to his plight have even more reason to use him as an example of how their way of life could be threatened if they don’t fight, and hard. His supporters have basically guaranteed those outcomes.

    This is why, regardless of the verdict — in this case and others that are forcing the nation to grapple with what it means to be Black and white in America — it’s up to the rest of us to guarantee different outcomes. We need to make sure the disparity in who is afforded life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is honestly and continually discussed (regardless of how uncomfortable it is for people to confront the truth) and see to it that those tenets of American democracy are extended to those who have historically been left out.

    If you care about saving this democracy from the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world, you shouldn’t look to a judge and a jury. Because a “guilty” or “not guilty” verdict in a lone case can’t fix what ails us.
    How dare an 18 year old, who at the time he defended himself from violent thugs was only 17, cry when he was reliving the moment he shot and killed 2 people. What a monster!

    Oh! Right! Like the asshole in the article states they weren't violent thugs, they were "white allies" who were "protesting" against police brutality against black people. You know those wonderful "white allies" who were shouting as many racial slurs against black people as they can and this was all caught on video.
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