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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashliana View Post
    Your assertion here would be the thing completely divorced from reality. Since, y'know, it's an obvious straw man argument.



    Psychiatrists and biologists would explain your error here: that what you initially identified as a "man" wasn't actually one.



    Good thing professional medical organizations recommend against puberty blockers for children who have not reached puberty.



    You didn't really think this one through. But let's be charitable and say it's because you decided to spend your Friday evening hopped up on caffeine pills and railing against abortion and trans children. Oh, and
    No legitimate biologist or psychologist believes that you can identify as anything, you either are a woman or a man. We have already indentified the psychological disorder for people that believe they are something they are not. Not a single one of the subscribed treatments is for other people to join in the mentally ill persons delusions. In fact friends and family are specifically asked to NOT acknowledge the delusions as it only reinforces the patients illness.

    You have no clue of what you're talking about. You're just spewing fucked up pop pseudo science for political gain, it's sick.
    Last edited by Neveragain; 04-24-2021 at 09:02 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    No legitimate biologist or psychologist believes that you can identify as anything, you either are a woman or a man. We have already indentified the psychological disorder for people that believe they are something they are not. Not a single one of the subscribed treatments is for other people to join in the mentally ill persons delusions. In fact friends and family are specifically asked to NOT acknowledge the delusions as it only reinforces the patients illness.

    You have no clue of what you're talking about. You're just spewing fucked up pop pseudo science for political gain, it's sick.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3418019/

    True hermaphrodite is one of the rarest variety of disorders of sexual differentiation (DSD) and represents only 5% cases of all. A 3-year-old child presented with left sided undescended testis and penoscrotal hypospadias. Chordee correction was performed 18 months back, elsewhere. At laparotomy Mullerian structures were present on left side. On right side testis was normally descended into the scrotum
    The idiot award goes to…

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    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3418019/

    True hermaphrodite is one of the rarest variety of disorders of sexual differentiation (DSD) and represents only 5% cases of all. A 3-year-old child presented with left sided undescended testis and penoscrotal hypospadias. Chordee correction was performed 18 months back, elsewhere. At laparotomy Mullerian structures were present on left side. On right side testis was normally descended into the scrotum
    So confused that you post a genetic disorder and not a mental disorder, it's really simple to distinguish between the two.

    True hermaphroditic humans do not exist, but pseudohermaphrodism does, where an individual has both male and female external genital organs, sometimes at the same time. Female embryos exposed to high levels of androgens (the male hormones) develop female internal reproductive organs but male external genitalia. Alternately, genetic defects cause children to be born with female external genital organs, which change at puberty, with the development of a penis and the closure of the false vagina.

    Read more: Hermaphrodite - Hermaphrodism In Humans - Female, Male, Organs, and Sex - JRank Articles https://science.jrank.org/pages/3310...#ixzz6sxZBTtkP
    You should probably stick to banking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    So confused that you post a genetic disorder and not a mental disorder, it's really simple to distinguish between the two.



    You should probably stick to banking.
    You mentioned biologist. A biologist won’t deal with mental disorders imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    You mentioned biologist. A biologist won’t deal with mental disorders imo.
    I didn't mention biologist, that was your friend Assliana.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    No legitimate biologist or psychologist believes that you can identify as anything, you either are a woman or a man. We have already indentified the psychological disorder for people that believe they are something they are not. Not a single one of the subscribed treatments is for other people to join in the mentally ill persons delusions. In fact friends and family are specifically asked to NOT acknowledge the delusions as it only reinforces the patients illness.

    You have no clue of what you're talking about. You're just spewing fucked up pop pseudo science for political gain, it's sick.
    Pretty sure that’s you.
    The idiot award goes to…

    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Pretty sure that’s you.
    That's me saying no legitimate biologist uses the "science" where plants and animals self identify.


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    Just a small example of the insanity people like Assliana and Solkern want us all to join in:

    Fucked up college student pushing their pseudo bullshit "science": Mr. Carson to you identify as being black?

    Ben Carson: I am black.


    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~ Marcus Aurelius
    “It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    No legitimate biologist or psychologist believes that you can identify as anything, you either are a woman or a man. We have already indentified the psychological disorder for people that believe they are something they are not.
    You didn't really read what I wrote -- or you didn't understand it -- which would be no surprise. Spoiler Alert: You aren't accurately representing the state of either biology or psychiatry. Half a second of searching would bring you to the DSM-5 (or the ICD-11, the international equivalent), which says the complete opposite of everything you just said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain
    Not a single one of the subscribed treatments is for other people to join in the mentally ill persons delusions. In fact friends and family are specifically asked to NOT acknowledge the delusions as it only reinforces the patients illness.
    Also wrong, as transgender notions aren't considered "delusions." That would your retarded ideology at work again. The APA's DSM-5 literature specifically recommends:

    Quote Originally Posted by APA
    Support may also include affirmation in various domains. Social affirmation may include an individual adopting pronouns, names, and various aspects of gender expression that match their gender identity.4,5
    Legal affirmation may involve changing name and gender markers on various forms of government identification.6
    Medical affirmation may include pubertal suppression for adolescents with gender dysphoria and gender-affirming hormones like estrogen and testosterone for older adolescents and adults.7, 8
    Medical affirmation is not recommended for prepubertal children.7, 8
    Some adults (and less often adolescents) may undergo various aspects of surgical affirmation.7, 8
    Quote Originally Posted by APA, DSM-5
    When it comes to access to care, many of the treatment options include counseling, cross-sex hormones, gender reassignment surgery, and social and legal transition to the desired gender.

    https://www.psychiatry.org/File%20Li...-Dysphoria.pdf
    How unfortunate for your position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain
    You have no clue of what you're talking about. You're just spewing fucked up pop pseudo science for political gain, it's sick.
    Your willful ignorance doesn't constitute a reasoned position, no matter how angry you get about it. Similarly, trying to pre-empt the inevitable charge that you're an idiot shitting out pseudoscience doesn't change the fact that you can't cite a single credible psychiatric source to back up your position.

    Then again, nobody is surprised by an uneducated, ignorant rant from a right-wing ideologue who looks like this:



    Were you voted "most likely to blow up an abortion clinic" in school?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Social media can do whatever they want. It’s their service, don’t like it, don’t use it. Freedom of speech doesn’t apply for private companies. .
    A counter to be that would I guess if you said something that really pissed me off and I was like man, fuck Solkern, and I went on social media platforms and said "Hey, fuck this guy. He lives on 123 Retarded Commie Ln" and now you had people physically bothering you. Whatever social media platform in question, doesn't agree with you politically, so they're just like nah we're leaving it up. Because like you said, they can do whatever they want.

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