How about FoxNews, Al Jhazeera or The Hill? Actually, why would anyone bother, you're going to deny and refute everything without a shred of evidence to the contrary. Get ready to vote Pence 2020.
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How about FoxNews, Al Jhazeera or The Hill? Actually, why would anyone bother, you're going to deny and refute everything without a shred of evidence to the contrary. Get ready to vote Pence 2020.
Weird way of saying "Oh I don't actually have any sources for the shit I'm saying" but hey, you do you.Originally Posted by Seran
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Whistleblower has a book coming out now according to CNN. Keeping all details of the author anonymous though.
Last edited by Ashlander; 10-22-2019 at 08:14 PM.
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Sure
Ukraine ambassador says in 'damning' testimony that he was told Trump wanted quid pro quo deal, report says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9167016.html
This is a pretty big story, so burying your head under the sand only makes you look sillier the longer you do it.The US ambassador to Ukraine has contradicted Donald Trump, telling House impeachment investigators that military aid to the former Soviet state was dependent upon a declaration of an investigation into the Bidens.
Ambassador Bill Taylor said during closed door hearings on Tuesday that he stands by calling it “crazy” to make the military assistance contingent on an investigation into Mr Trump’s potential political rival Joe Biden and his son Hunter.
Upon his arrival in Kiev, Mr Taylor claimed that he was alarmed by secondary diplomatic channels, and that other US diplomats said they were working on convincing Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate the Bidens. During a phone call with EU ambassador Gordon Sondland, Mr Taylor said, according to prepared remarks, he was told that the president felt that aid was dependent on a public announcement that Ukraine was opening an investment into Hunter Biden‘s business dealings with Ukrainian oil company Burisma.
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Last edited by Taernath; 10-22-2019 at 08:15 PM.
You had better pay your guild dues before you forget. You are 113 months behind.
You gotta be kidding. Is this even real life anymore?
Oh we're talking about Bill Taylor's laughable third hand information as the "damning evidence"? The same guy who received a text message from Ambassador Sondland saying Trump specifically said there was NO quid pro quo, but claimed in his testimony that he called Sondland and on the phone Sondland said there was a quid pro quo? Almost as if this guy is making shit up because he hates Trump or something. Let's wait for Sondland's testimony before we rely on third hand information from some nobody.
Also Democrats don't get to sit there on their high horse for weeks saying when Biden openly engaged in a quid pro quo it was okay because he was just rooting out corruption, but when Trump supposedly engages in a quid pro quo it's an impeachable offense because quid pro quo's are automatically impeachable offenses.
What a joke our country has become if diplomates can't engage in, you know, diplomacy. Remember when Obama was caught on a mic telling the Russian PM to give him a break for a few weeks until after he won the next election then he could be more "flexible" towards Russia after he won? Why wasn't he impeached for a quid pro quo? Because quid pro quos aren't illegal unless there is actual evidence (not third hand information) that Trump demanded Ukraine "dig up dirt" on a political rival. Remember we have no such information, not even from Taylor, that Trump ever said such a thing. All we have is Adam Schiff literally lying to the American people that that's what happened.
This story isn't a story at all unless you have an unnatural hatred for Trump.
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Withholding aid so one country won't invade another, or to get them from killing an indigenous people is a hell of a lot different than getting a foreign leader to publically announce your political propaganda.
Is it the same as or different than getting the country in question to fire a prosecutor investigating the company the VP's son works at?
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The ambassador to Ukraine is some nobody? lmao
You had better pay your guild dues before you forget. You are 113 months behind.
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