Things that made you laugh today (Political Version)

[Tgo01]

Breasts are fat. Yes. And men can nurse babies- did you know that? There's a culture in existence right now that has- as far back as any of them can remember- always had men breastfeeding babies instead of women. So I ask you again- if a man is overweight and has breasts- which are capable of lactating and feeding a baby- are they a woman? If not- what makes a someone a woman?

I'm gonna have to go ahead and call bullshit on this one. Please show me some sort of medical study or video that shows a man, a MAN, producing breast milk without any sort of drugs or medical procedure or some sort of genetic anomaly. Because some "culture in existence" claiming their men have always breastfed babies sounds like something Alex Jones would say.

[rolfard]

I'm gonna have to go ahead and call bullshit on this one. Please show me some sort of medical study or video that shows a man, a MAN, producing breast milk without any sort of drugs or medical procedure or some sort of genetic anomaly. Because some "culture in existence" claiming their men have always breastfed babies sounds like something Alex Jones would say.

Challenge accepted

Sorry, will relink when I have entire article

[Tgo01]

Challenge accepted

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...69534708003467

Close, but I said man, not male.

[Taernath]

I'm gonna have to go ahead and call bullshit on this one. Please show me some sort of medical study or video that shows a man, a MAN, producing breast milk without any sort of drugs or medical procedure or some sort of genetic anomaly. Because some "culture in existence" claiming their men have always breastfed babies sounds like something Alex Jones would say.

To re-iterate what I said above, I'm pretty sure she's talking about the Aka and misinterpreting something she read. I studied the Aka fairly heavily as part of my degree. The babies suckle on the men's nipples but it's a co-parenting thing, not a sustenance thing, the men haven't 'replaced women' as breastfeeders, and it's certainly not some kind of ancient tradition.

I'm legitimately interested in hearing which culture this is, if it's not the Aka.

[Tgo01]

To re-iterate what I said above, I'm pretty sure she's talking about the Aka and misinterpreting something she read. I studied the Aka fairly heavily as part of my degree. The babies suckle on the men's nipples but it's a co-parenting thing, not a sustenance thing, the men haven't 'replaced women' as breastfeeders, and it's certainly not some kind of ancient tradition.

I'm legitimately interested in hearing which culture this is, if it's not the Aka.

I can buy the co-parenting thing, different cultures have all sorts of different traditions.

time4fun wants us to believe that an entire civilization, going as far back as they can remember, have always had their men breastfeed their babies. This would indicate some sort of genetic quirk present in all men that has been passed down from generation to generation, completely counter to everything we know and understand about human biology.

I too would be interested in hearing which culture she is referring to. time4fun?

[rolfard]

Close, but I said man, not male.

This one's interesting

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3267540/

[Tgo01]

This one's interesting

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3267540/

Granted I just skimmed most of this but from what I gather it is a study about men being supportive of women while they are breastfeeding. Which is fine. It's similar to what Taernath suggested, men want to take part in the process of helping to raise and care for their children.

This is nothing remotely close to what time4fun suggested though, which is that men were actually breastfeeding babies.

[rolfard]

Read it again, all participants breastfeed

Despite increasing the number of pumping sessions at home and at work, Jocelyn’s milk supply continued to dwindle.14 In order to facilitate breastfeeding, Samuel drove to his wife’s work every day, often twice, so that their daughter would have adequate opportunities to breastfeed, providing her with a greater supply of milk than what Jocelyn could provide by pumping alone.

[Taernath]

Read it again, all participants breastfeed

Despite increasing the number of pumping sessions at home and at work, Jocelyn’s milk supply continued to dwindle.14 In order to facilitate breastfeeding, Samuel drove to his wife’s work every day, often twice, so that their daughter would have adequate opportunities to breastfeed, providing her with a greater supply of milk than what Jocelyn could provide by pumping alone.

What that is saying is that the pump wasn't able to stimulate enough milk production by itself, so Samuel took the daughter to Jocelyn's work so that she could breastfeed at work. The baby is drinking both pumped milk and from Jocelyn while she works. Samuel isn't breastfeeding the baby himself.

[Tgo01]

Read it again, all participants breastfeed

Despite increasing the number of pumping sessions at home and at work, Jocelyn’s milk supply continued to dwindle.14 In order to facilitate breastfeeding, Samuel drove to his wife’s work every day, often twice, so that their daughter would have adequate opportunities to breastfeed, providing her with a greater supply of milk than what Jocelyn could provide by pumping alone.

I think you're misreading this. Samuel was taking care of the baby at home because his part time job allowed him more free time to take care of the baby while Jocelyn's full time job didn't allow it. Jocelyn tried using a breast pump to fill up bottles so their baby could be fed while Samuel was at home taking care of the baby but due to her dwindling milk supply she wasn't able to pump enough milk. Thus Samuel drove the baby to Jocelyn's work so the baby could breastfeed from Jocelyn directly without having to use a pump and bottle. No where in that paragraph does it indicate Samuel was breastfeeding the baby.