Even fox news was putting SHS on blast for lying about the payment.Originally Posted by cwolff
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Even fox news was putting SHS on blast for lying about the payment.
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It is pure incompetence. Rudy G is way over his head. And his wife filed for divorce yesterday
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Rudy doesn't think Cohen had his "wires tapped". Apparently you can't wiretap a lawyer.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/giulia...ticles&via=rss“Us lawyers have talked about it, we don’t believe it’s true,” Giuliani told The Daily Beast. “We think it’s going to turn out to be untrue because it would be totally illegal. You can’t wiretap a lawyer, you certainly can’t wiretap his client who’s not involved in the investigation. No one has suggested that Trump was involved in that investigation. So they’re going to wiretap the lawyer, his client, and his client the president of the United States? I don’t think so, not if they want to stay out of jail. Disclosing a wiretap is a federal felony. I never took ‘em home when I was a U.S. attorney.”
Meanwhile trump is calling stormy an extortionist and bolstering her defamation lawsuit.
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His profile pic looks like George Takei and Ted Cruz fucked and this came out 9 months later.
Last edited by Methais; 05-03-2018 at 03:13 PM.
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It's amazing to see. I am having a hard time believing that they're bungling so badly. Last night on MSNBC one of the commentators, who used to work for Rudy or in SDNY or something like that, got choked up talking about how Rudys lost a step and that it's difficult to see. Other people have been on the record lately saying that Rudy was just fine and as sharp as ever. Whatever's going on with him is being debated openly and in public which is not a good sign for him.It is pure incompetence. Rudy G is way over his head. And his wife filed for divorce yesterday
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More proof that Rudy is a fucking moron. Being a lawyer doesn't grant you special immunity from being investigated for crimes.
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Dershowitz is flailing too. He was on MSNBC making some points in defense of trump including one about campaign contributions and a bunch about trumps civil liberties being trampled by the law enforcement community. The guy he was talking said that he'd address the first point but the rest he'll ignore because it's basis is that the U.S. DOJ is now defunct. So Dersh is pushing the conspiracy theories and struggling to make a reasonable argument anymore. It's good to see the pushback.
Here's what Dershowitz said:
And more here:“I do not trust the government. I do not trust judges. I do not trust prosecutors when they are zealously seeking to go after a particular target, in this case Donald Trump,” the lawyer stated on MSNBC. “Nobody would have been going after Michael Cohen if he weren’t Donald Trump’s lawyer. That’s the reality.”
“People don’t investigate campaign contribution lapses or campaign rule violations generally about people who aren’t in the public life, and I just worry that when you have somebody with a target on his or her back – whether it is Hillary Clinton who could have been elected and had the same thing happen to her, or Donald Trump that civil libertarians ought to express concern.”
“I don’t want to live in the surveillance state,” he continued. “I want to do everything in my power no matter who the target is to prevent this from occurring.”
“It was Lavrentiy Beria who told Stalin, ‘show me the man, and I’ll find your crime.’ You can go through the federal criminal code and find crimes that virtually any businessman, any politician has committed,” Dershowitz stated. “It is so easy to get a warrant. It is so easy to persuade a judge to give you a wiretap warrant. That simply doesn’t protect American citizens, and any civil libertarian who was exposed to what’s going on here today — if Hillary Clinton were the subject — would be taking exactly the opposite position.”
“There is so much hypocrisy, partisan hypocrisy out there. I don’t mind if conservatives take the view we ought to trust government or former prosecutors take the view we ought to trust government. My gripe is against civil libertarians and criminal defense lawyers who are always on the side of challenging the government, the ACLU, who have suddenly lost its way and forgotten what they’ve preached for 50 years because it is Donald Trump they’re after.”
ROCAH: That's what's called investigating.
DERSHOWITZ: … he can find against anybody who is associated with the president so he can flip them...
STEPHANOPOULOS: But if it weren't there it wouldn't be a problem.
DERSHOWITZ: Of course. But it's there -- you know, crime -- broad federal criminal statutes, campaign contributions, bank records, you can find them against almost every very complex business person or political person. The question is how hard you look. And when you look hard, you have enough for a search warrant, which is fairly minimal. And then the pressure increases.
Last edited by cwolff; 05-03-2018 at 04:10 PM.
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This was put up on Twitter by Seth Abramson today:
KEN WHITE (ex-AUSA) on the COHEN wiretap: “[This] sort of thing happens all the time if you’re doing mob wiretaps. That'd be the classic scenario—when they’re calling their lawyer or their fixer.” And yep—the feds may have captured a mob boss (Trump) talking to his fixer (Cohen).
Last edited by cwolff; 05-03-2018 at 04:20 PM.
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Trump was told not to call Cohen because they suspected a wiretap. Trump called anyway. This is why no one wants to be his lawyer.
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Update on the wiretapping of Cohen.NBC News with a big correction: MSNBC Banner reads right now: "Correction: Feds are monitoring, not listening to Cohen's calls."
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