2018 midterm elections

[Fortybox]

Here in reality, it's really not like that at all. Thought you'd like to know. Not sure you've ever been here.

Hahahahaha

[drauz]

It's such a childish remark. Simple and black and white.

I like our government. I appreciate how well it's taking care of things and at the same time I recognize that it's not perfection and it's only as good as the people we elect. I don't take for granted that it'll last.

You are literally making the argument for why we need the 2nd amendment as it is.

[time4fun]

This. I don't like Trump and I don't care for his behavior one bit, but I'm not too worried. Congress may be abdicating their responsibility but the DOJ is doing a fine job and I have faith in the FBI.

Normally I would agree with you, but in this instance he could fire Mueller and Rosenstein or get Sessions to quit and install someone else who could functionally shut this all down. And this isn't a situation where someone lied under oath about their side romps.

This is a situation where the President very well may have colluded with a foreign government to meddle in our elections, and that same person is currently inviting them to do it again by refusing to take any actions to protect our next election and refusing to hold the foreign government accountable. Meanwhile it has global consequences for us and our allies.

So the stakes here are pretty high. I would argue that this isn't your typical Presidential scandal.

[Fortybox]

Normally I would agree with you, but in this instance he could fire Mueller and Rosenstein or get Sessions to quit and install someone else who could functionally shut this all down. And this isn't a situation where someone lied under oath about their side romps.

This is a situation where the President very well may have colluded with a foreign government to meddle in our elections, and that same person is currently inviting them to do it again by refusing to take any actions to protect our next election and refusing to hold the foreign government accountable. Meanwhile it has global consequences for us and our allies.

So the stakes here are pretty high. I would argue that this isn't your typical Presidential scandal.

[Androidpk]

Normally I would agree with you, but in this instance he could fire Mueller and Rosenstein or get Sessions to quit and install someone else who could functionally shut this all down. And this isn't a situation where someone lied under oath about their side romps.

This is a situation where the President very well may have colluded with a foreign government to meddle in our elections, and that same person is currently inviting them to do it again by refusing to take any actions to protect our next election and refusing to hold the foreign government accountable. Meanwhile it has global consequences for us and our allies.

So the stakes here are pretty high. I would argue that this isn't your typical Presidential scandal.

The stakes are high but I have faith in the institution, the people that work for it, and the American people.

[Methais]

There is nothing to suggest that the midterms will be anything but a triumph for trumpism. The democrats, centrists and never trumpers are all waiting for Mueller to arrive at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue like the Lone Ranger and save the day. Meanwhile they just react to trumps bullshit, try to fact check his lies and basically treat the threat like normal politics. All our eggs are in the Mueller basket and that only works if he brings in scathing findings AND congress musters up any will to do a thing.

All the AR15s in the world won't be enough to keep the dictator from taking over.

He's taking over right now. It's happening before your very eyes. We are all frogs in a pot and the heat is slowly being turned up. He went from crazy outsider to the leader of that party to president checked by congress and "adults in the room". Here's an example:

"What concerns me about the American press is this endless, endless attempt to label the guy as some kind of kook not fit to be president," he said.
The comment went viral almost instantly. Why? Because Graham was at one time among those who labeled Trump a "kook" not fit for office.
"I think he's a kook," Graham said in February 2016. "I think he's crazy. I think he's unfit for office."

He's pressing a relentless grinding attack on the foundations of our nation and he's winning.

That's the equivalent of arguing that it's okay if people rob banks because we have police who can arrest them. Only in this case, the bank robber is the Police Officer's boss's boss's boss.

Are you two stupid fucks still having trouble understanding why no one takes you seriously and everyone thinks you’re retarded beyond fuckall?

Serious question, I’m legit not trolling when I ask this.

EDIT: And also why Trump’s numbers are going up. Because even normal people from your own party are realizing that extreme dipshits like you are becoming its platform.

[Androidpk]

Although, you have to see what’s happening though.. if Mueller actually had any physical evidence of collusion he wouldn’t need direct access to Trump. This is a gambit to try and ensnare Trump in some lie that he can then use to build on. I really think Mueller has absolutely nothing but a bunch of circumstantial evidence and hearsay by a few corrupt underlings...

That is not how this works, they're always going to try and interview the subject.

[time4fun]

The stakes are high but I have faith in the institution, the people that work for it, and the American people.

I genuinely hope your optimism is well placed

[Neveragain]

These things take a little bit of time Gelly. Don't you know your history? We are in the early stages of a malignancy. It's possible to cut it out before it spreads and grows but each day that passes with no treatment the disease gets stonger and the body politic gets weaker.

I am distraught Fortybox by the trump presidency, the capitulation of the GOP and the possible end to our nation as a republic. So ya, that shit depresses me.

You need to take a step away dude. If it's depressing you, you're putting to much energy into something that's giving you a negative return. My guess is that it's because you are trying to control something you have no real control over, instead use that energy to go out and make the changes to things you can control. It's really not that hard, especially if you focus on the things that make you happy. For example, I love playing baseball (or did when I was a kid) and I played up until my jr. year in high school. Later in life I started coaching baseball, it was some of the best couple years of my life. It was really easy to get involved as well, every year there was a shortage of coaches. Trust me, the voting booths will be there in November.

[time4fun]

Conspiracy charges and obstruction charges are both crimes of intent. The interviews are important.