Age of Marijuana Use and Psychosis

[subzero]

If people are literally eating these things and jumping out of windows an hour later how can you say more regulation isn't needed?

A girl in town stabbed and killed herself while on LSD when we were in high school. I had some of the same LSD and managed to not freak out and kill myself as did a whole lot of other people I know.

I get that LSD and cannabis are very different, but you simply can't regulate people doing stupid shit away. I assume we're all ok with how alcohol is regulated (no Latrin, you don't count) and none of us are under the impression that DUI-related incidents or people just being drunken assholes/idiots have been regulated down to zero. Does anyone believe that more regulations on alcohol would prevent more DUIs? I doubt it. Don't get me wrong. I'm not against regulations on this stuff, but "more" isn't always the answer.

[Wrathbringer]

I don't think the government or anybody else is the 'bogeyman.' I am not afraid of the dark. My body is more than my house or my car or my nationality or my beliefs. It is my whole self, the sum of all my parts, not just it's physical mechanics that can be quantified by science. Nobody knows it like I do.

This feels really deep. I think I am going to go look at shoes now.

Methais is the bogeyman.

[subzero]

This is the problem with people in this thread. The ones railing against things to such a huge degree have little to no first hand experience with the stuff they're talking about. DON'T RUIN POT LIKE YOU RUINED GEMSTONE!!!!!11

Pfft, experience. The only experience that counts is the stuff in your exp bucket! Studies and numbers and words on paper > experience.

How long do you think it would take for those potheads to kill themselves off, with pot being such a dangerous drug that's responsible for millions upon millions of deaths?

He's gonna be really disappointed.

[JackWhisper]

Methais is the bogeyman.

That's Mayor Bogeyman to you.

[subzero]

There are already laws about doing stupid shit while under the influence of alcohol.



There are already laws regulating foodstuffs (i.e. 2003 FDA ruling that trans fats must be on ingredients list, at the state and local level there are TONS of these laws).

So... yeah.

The point is that we need MOAR! regulations because people are still fat fucks and driving drunk and killing people. They won't do that if we mount up and regulate some bitches.

Do you have personal experience with drinking 10 times the considered "safe" limit of alcohol in the time it would take you to consume two regular sized cookies? :/

I still say it would probably be almost impossible to do so without vomiting/getting sick or even passing out. That would be like, what, drinking 50 beers in 20 seconds?

ETA: A quick Google search states someone died of alcohol poisoning from consuming 24 shots of liquor in 2 hours.

This is why studies and numbers alone can't be used to paint the whole picture. You're comparing someone eating a cookie and doing something stupid as hell with fatal amounts of alcohol. If the person ate cookies until they keeled over, fine. That didn't happen though, so you should instead be looking at, oh, I dunno... how many shots people need to consume before they end up behind a wheel and kill themselves or someone else because they're impaired. I guarantee you that number is MUCH lower than 24 shots in 2 hours.

[JackWhisper]

The point is that we need MOAR! regulations because people are still fat fucks and driving drunk and killing people. They won't do that if we mount up and regulate some bitches.

[subzero]

I think you're downplaying the dangers of overdosing on marijuana.

According to this story Colorado's Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center had 56 marijuana related calls from people 19 and older in 1 year. Also that same year Children’s Hospital Colorado admitted 14 children under the age of 10 for ingesting marijuana edibles.

Maybe not everyone is overdosing and going on a homicidal rampage but it's kind of hard to deny that people are overdosing. Whether that's because they are morons or because they are not properly educated I can't say. But in either case more education certainly can't hurt.

Define a cannabis overdose. Is it an overdose of alcohol if our BAC is over the legal limit for driving?

[leifastagsweed]

Methais is the bogeyman.

Nevermind, I retract my statement!!!

[subzero]

I'm not sure where hostility even comes into play?

I'll just leave this here:

The truth eventually makes its way to the surface. They knew it would, so in typical fashion they've covered their ass and made sure Uncle Sam won't be missing out on his cut. It is and always has been about the dollar. You'll see a similar situation with tobacco companies who lobby against cannabis. They know (or at the very least are prepared for it) that the anti-cannabis stuff will come to an end, so they've got brand names and packages and whatnot already in place. It'll be fun to see how fast they spin that one around:

2015- "Weed is teh devil and should never be available to the masses!"
2016- "Try our delicious, new Marlboro Greens today!"

If my doctor prescribed me medication that might cause me to go insane and want to stab myself in the heart then I would want my doctor to inform me of that risk

I'm no doctor, but if you ever happen to run into some Mad Hatter LSD... watch out. Someone did stab and kill themselves after taking some. You've been warned, sucka!

Sounds good to me. There also isn't a single sane person of drinking age who hasn't heard of the negative side effects of alcohol nor has any reason to disbelieve them. Can we say the same about marijuana? Judging by this thread alone: no.

Alcohol has been around for a whole lot longer than THC concentrates. Relatively speaking, concentrates are pretty new and yes, people are still learning about them. Give it some time and the 'madness' will die down as people become more edumacated and familiar with them.

They got rid of those flavored cigarettes camel made because they were worried it was marketed towards children. I could see the same thing here.

Eh, they still sell flavored cigars and e-cig oil/whateverthefuckitis.

[Androidpk]

I wouldn't say concentrates are new. People, especially in asia, have been smoking hashish for a longass time.