More Obamacare fuckups

[Tgo01]

I don't think either of us are in favor of the Kim Jung Un style death penalty, however.

Don't be so modest. We all know you're getting the Kim Jun Un haircut.

[Warriorbird]

Don't be so modest. We all know you're getting the Kim Jun Un haircut.

I would if I ever wanted to intimidate one of my Uncles. Hmm.

[waywardgs]

Except they stop being citizens the moment they are convicted of molesting a child, raping someones wife, daughter or mother or when they kill someone.

The people who do those awful things made a conscious choice.Their victims didnt have one. Some of them will never have another choice again.

[Wrathbringer]

Except they stop being citizens the moment they are convicted of molesting a child, raping someones wife, daughter or mother or when they kill someone.

The people who do those awful things made a conscious choice.Their victims didnt have one. Some of them will never have another choice again.

You're missing the point on this particular side argument. Wayward's argument is not whether capital punishment is justified in any particular situation, but rather that if government is too inept to build a website (which they are, obviously), why would we trust them to correctly determine who is guilty and who isn't when there is a life on the line? At least, that's how I took his statement.

[Latrinsorm]

Sorry cant help you there.I was erroneous in my first choice of examples.

Feel free to try and make sense of the rest or not at your leisure. I dont want the frustration or the headache from trying to under stand the liberal mind or lack thereof.

In more recent news explain to me how California Senator Leland Yee was so rabidly anti-gun and then gets arrested for arms trafficking?

All I know is that 44 years of life plus the cumulative teaching of my grandparents and parents tells me that almost everything that liberals supposedly stand for is wrong.

Thats enough for me.

I do not aim to explain to you how liberals are not ideologues. I aim to explain how no one is, because all of us are humans. None of us are robots. Humans do not have core programming, they are arbitrary, capricious, rationalizing. Humans are made of meat, not logic. The sooner you internalize this truth, the sooner you will be able to get past your partisan bias. Everyone on both sides of every aisle embraces contradictory positions.

A handful of somewhat innocent lives (they had to have done something in order to facilitate this mistaken identity and end up on death row in the first place)

You should look into it, it's a very interesting (if very depressing) story. The vast majority of wrongful capital convictions are on the basis of eyewitness testimony or confessions that turn out to be false. Why would someone confess to a capital offense? you might ask. Humans are made of meat, not truth. Sane, intelligent people will confess to something they don't do under interrogation, even if it means their death, because they'll honestly believe it.

And you would have us kill them.

[Methais]

[kutter]

I do not aim to explain to you how liberals are not ideologues. I aim to explain how no one is, because all of us are humans.

Latrin, no offense but your logic is rather fuzzy, clearly people can be ideologues, in fact, I would submit that the person in the White House is a perfect example of one:

i·de·o·logue
ˈīdēəˌlôg,-ˌläg,ˈidēə-/Submit
noun
1.
an adherent of an ideology, esp. one who is uncompromising and dogmatic

He is the very epitome of uncompromising and dogmatic. Is anyone on here an ideologue, who can say for sure, but based upon comments some make I would say so and that goes for both sides of the coin.

[cwolff]

Poor Barack. He just can't catch a break around here. Either he's a tyrant or a pussy. An ideologue or wishy washy. He talks too tough or not tough enough. You might think that these debates are between the right and left, but you'd be wrong. Can we get a little consistency?

[Warriorbird]

Poor Barack. He just can't catch a break around here. Either he's a tyrant or a pussy. An ideologue or wishy washy. He talks too tough or not tough enough. You might think that these debates are between the right and left, but you'd be wrong. Can we get a little consistency?

He's a complex figure. I feel he's overreached in some instances and under-reached in others. It's even more complex for Republicans because they want to be able to not like his results no matter what.

[cwolff]

He's a complex figure. I feel he's overreached in some instances and under-reached in others. It's even more complex for Republicans because they want to be able to not like his results no matter what.

Is it fair to say that most if not all of our Presidents are this way? Hell, I bet the Presidents ultimately have more in common with each other than they do with their party. You could probably draw comparisons between Bush and Obama that show a greater similarity than with Obama and the democrats, or Bush and the GOP during his terms.