More Obamacare fuckups

[Warriorbird]

Where did I say I didn't ever want anything to improve?

Please cite me examples of where I said that before we proceed with any back and forth.

You snipe and quibble and whine about anything other than the status quo.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'd be ashamed of my country if we let anyone die intentionally who needed help. That isn't what our country is about, regardless of the choices said person may have made. Some things you just have to nut up and accept sometimes life isn't fair and people take advantage of a situation.

That's better than the alternative being someone who made all the right choices, but was unfortunate in life and they die because our country sucked.

I said it at some point in the ACA debate - I fucking hate Obamacare and how it is implemented, but I love it that our country is trying to get everyone affordable healthcare. It's the right idea, just implemented wrong, IMO - and no I don't know the solution but it's better than not taking a step (i.e. doing nothing) towards affordable healthcare.

[Johnny Five]

Hey, It worked in Logan's Run right?

Seriously though, you are not the only person here who has expressed this desire. I encourage you to push this agenda and try to get it as a part of the next election. Until you guys get the country to the point that we're willing to let folks die in the streets you're never going to win this argument. On a side note; this will create a great opportunity for us to have our own American version of Mother Theresa!

haha

[Tgo01]

You snipe and quibble and whine about anything other than the status quo.

So your argument is anything is better than the status quo?

That's an odd way of thinking.

[Atlanteax]

Hey, It worked in Logan's Run right?

No enforcing of such extremes ... just not intervening with taxpayer dollars or other forms of subsidies to help people who suffer from chronic poor-health that is extremely expensive to treat. If private industry wants to subsidize or such individuals can pay for it themselves, by all means do so.

[cwolff]

haha

Well shit, he does need a job in two years. And he makes that habit(s) look cool.

[Johnny Five]

Well shit, he does need a job in two years. And he makes that habit(s) look cool.

Why does he need a job? He will be making 450k for the rest of his life.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

No enforcing of such extremes ... just not intervening with taxpayer dollars or other forms of subsidies to help people who suffer from chronic poor-health that is extremely expensive to treat. If private industry wants to subsidize or such individuals can pay for it themselves, by all means do so.

Would you be of that opinion if your Mother or Father got some debilitating disease which far exceeds your families financial capabilities to pay but is treatable if you have the money? I don't mind paying a little more in taxes or for insurance if it means people in that situation might be helped.

Shitty things happen to good people, we as a society should be able to assist with that burden.

[Candor]

Would you be of that opinion if your Mother or Father got some debilitating disease which far exceeds your families financial capabilities to pay but is treatable if you have the money? I don't mind paying a little more in taxes or for insurance if it means people in that situation might be helped.

Shitty things happen to good people, we as a society should be able to assist with that burden.

I doubt that the cost is "a little more" - therein lies the problem.

[Atlanteax]

Would you be of that opinion if your Mother or Father got some debilitating disease which far exceeds your families financial capabilities to pay but is treatable if you have the money? I don't mind paying a little more in taxes or for insurance if it means people in that situation might be helped.

Shitty things happen to good people, we as a society should be able to assist with that burden.

This is what insurance is for.

But if I and family *choose* to forgo insurance and instead stockpile what otherwise would had been paid premiums/expenses into a savings account, we probably would had been able to pay for it.

However, had we chosen to forgo insurance, and frivolously spent that money on additional luxuries/vacations/etc, then it is time to pay the piper, so to speak.