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    The IRS employees are going to be seriously pissed when they're sent out to collect lame ass politically motivated penalties. Unless of course they contract it out to scummy private collection agencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ker_Thwap View Post
    Unless of course they contract it out to scummy private collection agencies.
    The way I understand how it works they can't even do that. All they can do is withhold any future refunds the person might be entitled to.

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    I have been to the doctor once in the last ten years. Cost of that visit: 188 dollars (Included medication with no insurance). Kinda silly to force some people to pay 100+ bucks a month for something you never use. It would be like buying a boat and making payments but you live in a state that has no lakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Five View Post
    I have been to the doctor once in the last ten years. Cost of that visit: 188 dollars (Included medication). Kinda silly to force some people to pay 100+ bucks a month for something you never use. It would be like buying a boat and making payments but you live in a state that has no lakes.
    I think you're missing the point of insurance...
    When did you schedule your cancer, car accident, and heart attack?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlin View Post
    I think you're missing the point of insurance...
    When did you schedule your cancer, car accident, and heart attack?
    Pay the bill when it happens. I'm 29 right now, say I have a heart attack at age 75 with no other major medical needs. My insurance say costs me 200 dollars a month for decent coverage. I'd rather put that 110k into a retirement plan then stupid ass insurance I don't even use. Over that time that money if properly invested could easily pay for any medical fees.

    (And yes I have company paid insurance.)
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    Depending on where you live, you may be underestimating the costs. According to the first google hit that I got when I searched for heart attack treatment costs:
    http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/08/news...ospital-bills/
    Looks like it can range from 3300 to 92k for treatment.

    So, if you got a heart attack before like... 60ish, you're just gonna die?


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    1/11/2014: Grandmaster Alchemist
    1/14/2014: Capped, and got Loralaii killed by a GM.
    7/11/2016: Founded the Hand of the Arkati
    9/20/2016: T5 on my bow (Thanks to Isola)... Managed as far as T4 myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlin View Post
    Depending on where you live, you may be underestimating the costs. According to the first google hit that I got when I searched for heart attack treatment costs:
    http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/08/news...ospital-bills/
    Looks like it can range from 3300 to 92k for treatment.

    So, if you got a heart attack before like... 60ish, you're just gonna die?
    Nope, in 30 years I'll just have them inject me with some nanites and I'll be out in an hour duh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Five View Post
    Pay the bill when it happens. I'm 29 right now, say I have a heart attack at age 75 with no other major medical needs. My insurance say costs me 200 dollars a month for decent coverage. I'd rather put that 110k into a retirement plan then stupid ass insurance I don't even use. Over that time that money if properly invested could easily pay for any medical fees.

    (And yes I have company paid insurance.)
    Didn't you chastise me in another thread for not responding to questions people pose on here? Then you come up with this drivel? How the fuck is anyone even supposed to respond to this? Whirlin's gently trying to educate you on the subject. I guess that's one way. Will it help? Hopefully, but I expect you already know the answers on this and are just being provocative or trying to make some partisan point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Five View Post
    Nope, in 30 years I'll just have them inject me with some nanites and I'll be out in an hour duh.
    Nanites are even more expensive man! Those things are like, $5m a pop! And it takes at least like, 17 of them to fix up a heart in an hour!

    Trust me, I'm a scientist.


    >forage for snapdragon stalk
    d100(Open): -251
    You stumble about in a fruitless attempt at foraging.

    1/6/2014: Setheve completes the promotion ritual and says, "Congratulations, Whirlin, for achieving Guild Master status! We trust you'll serve your guild well."
    1/11/2014: Grandmaster Alchemist
    1/14/2014: Capped, and got Loralaii killed by a GM.
    7/11/2016: Founded the Hand of the Arkati
    9/20/2016: T5 on my bow (Thanks to Isola)... Managed as far as T4 myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    Didn't you chastise me in another thread for not responding to questions people pose on here? Then you come up with this drivel? How the fuck is anyone even supposed to respond to this? Whirlin's gently trying to educate you on the subject. I guess that's one way. Will it help? Hopefully, but I expect you already know the answers on this and are just being provocative or trying to make some partisan point.
    His point was "pay the bill when it happens." How is that being provocative?

    Yes, insurance is (typically) a great thing to have. You pay a little in each month and won't get slapped with a huge bill when you need it.

    But if you're young chances are you won't need medical attention for a few years, possible even a decade or longer. It that sense it could make more sense to not pay for insurance and if you do need to see a doctor pay for the visit with your own money. I've done this before in the past.

    Heck I even shelled at almost 2000 dollars to have one of those fancy xrays done. CT scan? I dunno. It was expensive though but considering I didn't need any other medical care for several years afterwards I actually saved money by not having insurance.

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