More Obamacare fuckups

[Thondalar]

No one, yourself included, has fought for this right. The problem with this type of thinking is that we privatize profit and socialize loss. In a perfect libertarian utopia we'd love to let you die on the street once you've exhausted your savings, but that just ain't going to happen. This whole argument is the ranting of a stubborn inner child. "It's my body I'll do what I want" "You don't own me!" "You're not my Dad!"

I guess it's a fundamental difference in our views...but that's exactly what man has been fighting and dying for since the dawn of time.

A perfect Libertarian utopia wouldn't let anyone "die on the street once you've exhausted your savings"...that's just distasteful propaganda on your part.

It is totally my body, and I should be allowed to do what I want. You don't own me, and neither does the federal government. Unless you're in a VA hospital dying from stomach cancer right now, no...you're not my dad.

[Wrathbringer]

No one, yourself included, has fought for this right. The problem with this type of thinking is that we privatize profit and socialize loss. In a perfect libertarian utopia we'd love to let you die on the street once you've exhausted your savings, but that just ain't going to happen. This whole argument is the ranting of a stubborn inner child. "It's my body I'll do what I want" "You don't own me!" "You're not my Dad!"

No one fought for freedom, including me? Okaaay... You're right about a few things, though. You don't own me. It's my body, I'll do what i want. Government is not my daddy. I'm an independent big boy and I'll not agree to subsidize your failed socialist policies just because you think it's the right thing to do. Keep sending Obama your money, if you want. I fought for that right, too.

[Buckwheet]

Panera is not "required" to give away their left over bread to poor people. They just choose to do it and they can afford to do it from the people overpaying for a sammich. It should be the same way for providers of any service, including medical services. Then consumers can pick and choose who they go with for their care and services. But we are too far down the rabbit hole to do something like that.

[Wrathbringer]

Panera is not "required" to give away their left over bread to poor people. They just choose to do it and they can afford to do it from the people overpaying for a sammich. It should be the same way for providers of any service, including medical services. Then consumers can pick and choose who they go with for their care and services. But we are too far down the rabbit hole to do something like that.

With freedom, there's that choice. We can hope. Seriously, though, how will the feds know who to fine- er, I mean, "tax"?

[Tgo01]

You should be. The elderly take up more than the 10 percent the smokers and drunks take.

And the non elderly take up the most, what's your point?

[Jeril]

Well if you take out the elder, the smokers, the drunks, and the fatties, that's around 45%. How much of that is babies, then what is the rest divided into? As in what kind of services?

[cwolff]

No one fought for freedom, including me? Okaaay... You're right about a few things, though. You don't own me. It's my body, I'll do what i want. Government is not my daddy. I'm an independent big boy and I'll not agree to subsidize your failed socialist policies just because you think it's the right thing to do. Keep sending Obama your money, if you want. I fought for that right, too.

Jingoism aside your argument is total bullshit. No one in the armed services fought to be unencumbered from the law or civic responsibilities like paying bills and taxes. Why the fuck are you even arguing. If you go broke you can just go to the VA. As a combat veteran you could probably go there anyway.

Are you insured now or are you just fucking the US taxpayer bareback?

[Atlanteax]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/21/politi...html?hpt=hp_t1

"Nobody's madder than me about the website not working as well as it should, which means it's going to get fixed," Obama said without specifying exactly what went wrong or who was to blame.

HOLY SHIT ... he did *not* blame Bush !?!?!??!

[Tgo01]

Are you insured now or are you just fucking the US taxpayer bareback?

Even after I posted a link that showed the uninsured cost less than 2% of the total healthcare spent in this country you're still using this argument?

You make me a sad man

[Jeril]

Even after I posted a link that showed the uninsured cost less than 2% of the total healthcare spent in this country you're still using this argument?

You make me a sad man

Don't forget the part about him saying that if he had to he'd pay his bills out of his own pocket. But yes, he is clearly fucking the tax payers.