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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Trying to understand the universe and how and why we are all here via the existence of a God seems a bit more reasonable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Trying to understand the universe and how and why we are all here via the existence of a God seems a bit more reasonable than someone believing in something that no one has ever denied wasn't real.

    Other than kids and possibly crazy people who has ever denied that the Tooth Fairy was just something we all made up to "reward" kids for growing and losing their baby teeth?
    And making something up to explain the currently unexplainable makes more sense than an all knowing, all powerful deity did everything, but hides his presence and yet judges our actions that it already has full knowledge that we will perform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Trying to understand the universe and how and why we are all here via the existence of a God seems a bit more reasonable than someone believing in something that no one has ever denied wasn't real.

    Other than kids and possibly crazy people who has ever denied that the Tooth Fairy was just something we all made up to "reward" kids for growing and losing their baby teeth?
    It's true that the tooth fairy myth falls apart upon close examination mostly because it has to perform it's miracle (converting a tooth to $) on a deadline. God is given much greater flexibility which serves to protect this myth from critical thinking. The bottom line, from my perspective, is that they are equal expressions of superstition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    I bet you would spare some of that liberal sympathy working for the man if I were a black female
    You're not???
    and perhaps a tad bit nicer to people. :P
    You're n... no wait yeah, that part I know. And I gave you a hug! Sheesh! If you're expecting some practical help from a liberal that's your own fault (which is to say society's).
    This is purely evident by the fact that nature intended us to procreate, and if we were all gay then we would die as a species.
    You don't have to enjoy procreation to do it. Indeed, is vaginal intercourse even in the top 5 of most efficient sex acts to generate a female orgasm? And childbirth is definitely not designed to be enjoyed. The mere fact that gayness persists is evidence that gay people also procreate, unless you are positing a very specific environmental mutagen that has existed in every environment since the dawn of humanity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paradii
    Given enough time, the causation behind every phenomenon that a god has once been indicated to be in complete control of (weather, man, creation of the universe, etc) will be established. You can observe the shrinking power of a god throughout recorded history, and it will continue. So I would argue, if there was a god, why should we worship an entity that hasn't done anything?
    It depends on if you mean the how of causation or the why of it. I can describe the process of lightning (because Obama's taxes cause the more mobile which is to say higher income electrons to move away, creating a voltage difference that leads to lightning), but pure science has no interest in the reason, as in why this way and not some other way? Why don't electrons have noblesse oblige? Why do we have electrons at all? The chain leads backwards inevitably to the fundamentals of the universe, but this is merely delaying the question, not answering it. It is only philosophy that ruminates pointlessly on these questions, and if you have a better description of religion than pointless rumination I will be happy to call you a witch. There are no causons in physics.

    I also think your observation (on the shrinking power) is only an apt description of the powers you personally attributed to God, and is not an accurate reflection of world history.
    And making something up to explain the currently unexplainable makes more sense than an all knowing, all powerful deity did everything, but hides his presence and yet judges our actions that it already has full knowledge that we will perform.
    Can I interest you in an additional clause? Perhaps he hides his presence from you, or perhaps you hide his presence from you. Or perhaps society hides his presence from you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradii View Post
    Given enough time, the causation behind every phenomenon that a god has once been indicated to be in complete control of (weather, man, creation of the universe, etc) will be established. You can observe the shrinking power of a god throughout recorded history, and it will continue. So I would argue, if there was a god, why should we worship an entity that hasn't done anything?
    I've always seen that broken down when root cause is applied though. I enjoy arguing both sides and when taking from a non emotional vantage I find flaws in both. But I think it is real important to call the other side stupid like cwolff does, that is important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnticorRifling View Post
    I've always seen that broken down when root cause is applied though. I enjoy arguing both sides and when taking from a non emotional vantage I find flaws in both. But I think it is real important to call the other side stupid like cwolff does, that is important.
    Thank you! If more people on this earth called out the stupidity of the belief in the supernatural the World would be a better place.

    Don't worry though, the tipping point will come. We've seen it in many other social issues and we'll see it with God too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    we'll see it with God too.
    Doubt we'll see it in our lifetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    Don't worry though, the tipping point will come. We've seen it in many other social issues and we'll see it with God too.
    If you mean religion, then possibly. Religions rise and they fall. Belief in God, however you perceive him/her/it, will never cease. It's retarded to believe there will ever come a day when all humanity just stops believing.
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    The thing I love about atheists is that, if you get a group of them together in one spot, they suddenly believe that they are a majority. It's funny.
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    We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men. Edward R. Murrow

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